Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: OK. Here is a draft: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=merging_symphony_allegro_non_troppo Note that there are some suggested topics at the end, where I need detail. I welcome help from anyone who can help fill in the details. Thanks! In the draft you ask for

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-20 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: Rob Weir wrote: OK. Here is a draft: https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=** merging_symphony_allegro_non_**troppohttps://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=merging_symphony_allegro_non_troppo

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: Rob Weir wrote: OK. Here is a draft: https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=**

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-20 Thread F C. Costero
On 1/20/2013 2:48 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.orgwrote: Rob Weir wrote: OK. Here is a draft: https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=**

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 9:14 PM, F C. Costero fjcc.apa...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/20/2013 2:48 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.orgwrote: Rob Weir wrote: OK. Here is

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-19 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 16/01/2013 Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: the Symphony contribution in itself is worth to be properly acknowledged and get exposure. Agreed. So I am glad then that you made the call for additional blog authors. It is probably best if the Symphony

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 16/01/2013 Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: the Symphony contribution in itself is worth to be properly acknowledged and get exposure. Agreed. So I am glad then that you

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 16/01/2013 Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: the Symphony contribution in itself is worth to be properly

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hello; - Messaggio originale - Da: Rob Weir ... Well, much of the material is on the wiki. And we probably don't want to get too technical. But I can put a draft together at least. OK. Here is a

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 11/01/2013 Rob Weir wrote: In any case, pointing out the lie on this list already gives 90% of the benefit, since such FUD cannot survive the light of day. A blog post is unnecessary. Regardless of what

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-16 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On 1/10/13, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, Are you referring only to the email on the TDF mailing list - I know which one that would be I'm sure, and I drafted but then did not send a reply to it. I

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On 1/10/13, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, Are you referring only to the email on the TDF mailing list - I know which one that

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 11/01/2013 Rob Weir wrote: In any case, pointing out the lie on this list already gives 90% of the benefit, since such FUD cannot survive the light of day. A blog post is unnecessary. Regardless of what prompted the discussion here, a specific blog post about what the Symphony

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-11 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 1/11/13 10:20 AM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: 2013/1/11 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects ... I can certainly sympathize with leaders of communities that

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:38 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/11/13 10:20 AM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: 2013/1/11 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: I'm reading FUD, from the usual

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-11 Thread Herbert Duerr
On 11.01.2013 13:59, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:38 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: [...] In general we can improve our communication to the public. We can more often talk about what we are doing, or can collect on a regular base the fixes we have made. Herbert

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-11 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:20 AM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/1/11 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects ... I can certainly

Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Rob Weir
I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects, saying that the IBM donation to AOO is pure marketing fluff and IBM faked the donation of the Symphony code and IBM did not donate anything. I can certainly sympathize with leaders of communities that can only be held together by irrational

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects, saying that the IBM donation to AOO is pure marketing fluff and IBM faked the donation of the

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, Are you referring only to the email on the TDF mailing list - I know which one that would be I'm sure, and I drafted but then did not send a reply to it. I ask because I did not see that go any further then

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 01/10/2013 11:11 PM, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: Hello; - Messaggio originale - Da: Rob Weir On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Drew Jensen wrote: Rob, Are you referring only to the email on the TDF mailing list - I know which one that would be I'm sure, and I drafted but then

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello Marcus; - Messaggio originale - Da: Marcus (OOo)  I learned about these claims via email, but not from the TDF mailing list.  But I would not be surprised if it originated there.  In any case, when a TDF Director and Marketing Lead makes such claims, it carries some

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hello; - Messaggio originale - Da: Rob Weir On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Drew Jensen wrote: Rob, Are you referring only to the email on the TDF mailing list - I know which one that would be

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 01/10/2013 11:40 PM, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: Hello Marcus; - Messaggio originale - Da: Marcus (OOo) I learned about these claims via email, but not from the TDF mailing list. But I would not be surprised if it originated there. In any case, when a TDF Director and

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 01/11/2013 12:03 AM, schrieb Rory O'Farrell: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:53:40 +0100 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 01/10/2013 11:40 PM, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: Hello Marcus; - Messaggio originale - Da: Marcus (OOo) I learned about these claims via email, but not

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects ... I can certainly sympathize with leaders of communities that can only be held together by irrational fears. It is not easy to maintain that peak level of paranoia. Your personal opinions on the people involved (I admit I

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: People don't care to look, unfortunately... But I definitely agree that this listing is impressive, as it is this page:

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects ... I can certainly sympathize with leaders of communities that can only be held together by irrational fears. It is not easy to maintain that