Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-08 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > There has been suggestion, and some expressed support, for AOO becoming a > Java application. > +1 I think it would be nice. Previous work on Java based office suites show promise and that this is possible. Cases in

Re: [PROPOSAL] Distribute only one source package

2015-11-08 Thread Marcus
Am 11/08/2015 12:08 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Thanks for bringing this topic again on the table. I remember there was at least 1 request to re-think the distribution policy about the source code files. And also to consider to offer a file with 7Zip compression. We currently distribute 3

Re: [PROPOSAL] Distribute only one source package

2015-11-08 Thread Marcus
Am 11/08/2015 11:34 AM, schrieb Damjan Jovanovic: On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Marcus wrote: Am 11/08/2015 12:08 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Thanks for bringing this topic again on the table. I remember there was at least 1 request to re-think the distribution

Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 07/11/2015 Marcus wrote: All nice, but with a short of developers that could do any of the points you listed below, it's just a theoretical idea what could be done. ;-) While Damjan brought a somewhat more pragmatic approach here, I'm still skeptical: not even coming to whether it is

Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-08 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
Let's examine porting AOO to Java in more detail. Java can easily call C code with JNA and also easily call even C++ with BridJ (https://github.com/nativelibs4java/BridJ) (with its sister project JNAerator even generating Java code to compile/link yours against by examining C/C++ header files),

Re: [PROPOSAL] Distribute only one source package

2015-11-08 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Marcus wrote: > Am 11/08/2015 12:08 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: > > Thanks for bringing this topic again on the table. I remember there was at > least 1 request to re-think the distribution policy about the source code > files. And also to

Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-08 Thread #PATHANGI JANARDHANAN JATINSHRAVAN#
Hi, I am pretty much a noob and have only started out contributing, but may I ask why moving to Java from C++ is being considered? This migration will take effort and time, and I was of the understanding that C++ code runs faster than Java. Thanks Jatin On 11/8/15, 8:48 PM,

Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-08 Thread Patricia Shanahan
"C++ code runs faster than Java" is, to some extent, a hold-over from the early days of Java, when JVMs where pure Bytecode interpreters. These days, it gets compiled, and optimized, as it is running. The optimizer has more data than a C++ optimizer, because it can see what flows are being

Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-08 Thread toki
On 08/11/2015 14:32, Patricia Shanahan wrote: >I am just getting started on AOO, and don't know the history of this discussion, Pretty much since Sun purchased StarWriter, there have been proposals to make OpenOffice.org Java only. If one considers NeoOffice to be a Java fork, then it is the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Distribute only one source package

2015-11-08 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 20:53:44 +0100 Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Rory O'Farrell wrote: > > On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 09:51:07 -0800 "Dennis E. Hamilton" wrote: > >> There is interesting discussion on this thread that devolves into what > >> compression to use as the single

RE: [PROPOSAL] Distribute only one source package

2015-11-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 > -Original Message- > From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] > Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2015 12:03 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Distribute only one source package [ ... ] > > AOO build on Windows currently requires the use of Cygwin which has a >

Experiment: Downloading 4.1.2 Source for Assessment of Its Zip Usage

2015-11-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
This as the recommended download for the 4.1.2 source Zip produces an HTTP 404. I am downloading r1709696-src.zip from

Re: Experiment: Downloading 4.1.2 Source for Assessment of Its Zip Usage

2015-11-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Attempting to access the asc, md5, and sha256 at, e.g., all fail with HTTP 404. The links were broken since files were still in propagation when the page was

Re: [PROPOSAL] Distribute only one source package

2015-11-08 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 09:51:07 -0800 "Dennis E. Hamilton" wrote: > There is interesting discussion on this thread that devolves into what > compression to use as the single source-package case. My reaction is that most (all?) linux/non-windows builders will be happy with the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Distribute only one source package

2015-11-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 09:51:07 -0800 "Dennis E. Hamilton" wrote: There is interesting discussion on this thread that devolves into what compression to use as the single source-package case. My reaction is that most (all?) linux/non-windows builders will be happy with the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Distribute only one source package

2015-11-08 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Andrea, +1 for your idea of only one source package. Andrea Pescetti schrieb: Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 09:51:07 -0800 "Dennis E. Hamilton" wrote: There is interesting discussion on this thread that devolves into what compression to use as the single source-package case.

Re: update feed from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2 ready to go...

2015-11-08 Thread Kay Schenk
On 11/07/2015 01:00 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Kay Schenk wrote: >> Ok. Yeah, I remarked about the date in the attachments, so I will >> change to Oct 28. > > The issue is not much the date value, but the date format. I've now > fixed the script to produce exactly the same format we have in >

Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-08 Thread Kay Schenk
On 11/08/2015 05:19 AM, #PATHANGI JANARDHANAN JATINSHRAVAN# wrote: > Hi, I am pretty much a noob and have only started out > contributing, but may I ask why moving to Java from C++ is being > considered? This migration will take effort and time, and I was > of the understanding that C++ code

RE: [PROPOSAL] Distribute only one source package

2015-11-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
There is interesting discussion on this thread that devolves into what compression to use as the single source-package case. I do not support this proposal as a first-choice alternative to what may be a surmountable problem. I want to speak to some higher-level issues, below. MY OFFER: I will

Re: [PROPOSAL] Distribute only one source package

2015-11-08 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 11/8/2015 11:53 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: ... Do Windows developers really use Windows' built-in utilities for unzipping? I really think that the minimal stack for building OpenOffice on Windows includes some .tar.bz2-capable programs. We do download and expand .tar.bz2 files as part of the

Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-08 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I would be strongly opposed to deserializing untrusted code - it is full of problems. On 11/8/2015 11:14 AM, toki wrote: On 08/11/2015 14:32, Patricia Shanahan wrote: I am just getting started on AOO, and don't know the history of this discussion, Pretty much since Sun purchased

BUGS

2015-11-08 Thread Call Dave
Be great when you all get the bugs out of this new version. You spend 10 minutes on the download then when you go to put into your folder of choice it won't work. I don't want it in my main C drive, but will not happen with this new version. Would you not consider that a waste of 10 minutes of

Re: BUGS

2015-11-08 Thread JZA
I am not sure what you mean, could you somewhat explain better what the issue is. That said, you dont need to 'halt' everything you do, while the computer is downloading. Also there are advanced installation where you can select where you need AOO to be installed. You are presented with the option

0 Downloads on stats

2015-11-08 Thread JZA
Giving some information to a student doing a paper on Open source adoption, I notice that the stats failed recording the downloads from our provider. http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html On 7/17/2015 we had a 0 download that day. Wonder if this was a bug, and wonder if we could add a

Hello

2015-11-08 Thread Urmi Shah
Hello, I have completed Level 1 module. -Urmi.

RE: Experiment: Downloading 4.1.2 Source for Assessment of Its Zip Usage

2015-11-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thanks for the quick repair, Andrea. I started at (from the front page), used the sidebar link to Source, which got me to, and then when that took me to

64-bit AOO for Windows (was RE: [QUESTION] Usability of Non-Optional Java Dependencies)

2015-11-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think the benefits of an x64 version of OpenOffice are understated. It has apparently been worth it for a cousin OO.o descendant to provide one. I think there are two factors that favor having an OpenOffice x64 release: 1. The biggest benefits of x64 builds are (1) optimized compiling for

RE: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer

2015-11-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Ah, found it. As I said separately when I couldn't find this message, it is best to put the actually-used build commands in the source-code tree itself, so that no matter how things change over time, each release has what was used to build the project-distributed binaries with it. - Dennis

Re: 0 Downloads on stats

2015-11-08 Thread JZA
As a sidenote the stats havent been updated in 3 months, so would be nice to do this. On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 8:06 PM, JZA wrote: > Giving some information to a student doing a paper on Open source > adoption, I notice that the stats failed recording the downloads from our >

Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-08 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Using some combination of general and special purpose tools to do the bulk of the conversion makes sense to me. In addition, once we have functionally correct Java code, refactoring for maintainability becomes easier. I am most familiar with the tools built into Eclipse: See

Re: [PROPOSAL] Distribute only one source package

2015-11-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 08/11/2015 Marcus wrote: Puh, too many compression formats that do the same. ;-) Yes, there are at least a dozen compression formats better than .tar.bz2, but it's too easy to get lost in comparing them... So take this as a proposal to drop ZIP and drop .tar.gz ; then .tar.bz2 will be

[REPORT] Apache OpenOffice ODF in the Marketplace - AOO 4.1.1 downloads

2015-11-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Here are updates of the downloads for Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1, now that 4.1.2 is being distributed by the mirror system. >From Sourceforge, Just shy of 50,000,000 downloads. This number

Re: University student looking for experience in contributing to Open Office.

2015-11-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 08/11/2015 PATHANGI JANARDHANAN JATINSHRAVAN wrote: I have a build of Open Office where I am able to reproduce the bug where creating a table in design mode does not work, and it does not respond to a click. I will get to looking at this issue now. Thanks Jatin, I had missed your patches,

Re: [QUESTION] How Many Pre-Built Binaries are Enough?

2015-11-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 21/10/2015 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: 4 flavors for Linux, taking 67% 1 flavor for MacOS, for 18% 1 flavor for Windows (win32 x86), for 15%. ... when is it time to reduce those that represent inordinate demands to the needs for QA, distribution, and support? The time is now. Not in

Re: Introducing my self and my goals.

2015-11-08 Thread Ηρακλής Μουτίδης
Dear Damjan, I just finished compiling OpenOffice on Ububtu 14.04. After a few failed attempts i finally did it :). Although i got an error message on the last installation command the program works just fine. the error was:( Processing triggers for shared-mime-info (1.2-0ubuntu3) ... Errors

Downloading

2015-11-08 Thread Bette Winquist
I did not see any specific place to question why I am unable to download OpenOffice. I’d really love to try it out, but the message I get is “Apache_OpenOffice_4. not recognized”. What do I need to do? Bette - To unsubscribe,

Re: Downloading

2015-11-08 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 19:40:22 -0700 Bette Winquist wrote: > I did not see any specific place to question why I am unable to download > OpenOffice. I’d really love to try it out, but the message I get is > “Apache_OpenOffice_4. not recognized”. What do I need to do? > >