Re: Blind Accessibility

[Steve Yin]

Hi Reina,

We tested the build of the branch "ia2" only on Windows 7, Vista and XP. So
I cannot ensure that the build can run successfully on Windows 8. And the
current build is still only ready for IA2 UI testing. Please do not run
testing on the object level or the other document content. Thanks.



On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Waldorf PC  wrote:

> Hi:
>
> It is a relief that I am not the only one who has concerns about
> accessibility. Jennifer, thank you for jumping on board with this, as
> I have been swamped with my own work and all.
>
> I tried downloading Symphony, and it was a disaster. I never got the
> program to work, and it ended up causing registry problems. I could
> not even delete the program in the regular fashion by going through
> the control panel. I had to manually delete it and take it out of the
> registry. I have decided not to revisit Symphony and wait for the new
> release of Open Office. Since this test version is now available, I
> wish to test it out on my own machine. I am running Windows 8. Please
> let me know if it will work on this machine or if I will have to use
> another machine with an older operating system. I will run this
> release through a rigorous testing protocol and will be able to let
> you know if it is an assistive technology issue or a program issue,
> and I will provide you with a fix to bridge the gap.
>
> I am so glad we can all work together on this.
>
> Warm regards,
> Reina Grosvalet
>
>
>
> On 4/2/13, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL  wrote:
> > Hf,
> >
> > I did my 1st test today. Indeed it works fine. 2 categories of questions:
> > is it possible to localize such release or not yet? Besides, the fact
> that
> > the
> > characters formatting isn't recognized, the navigating in the tables is
> not
> > yet
> > perfect: are they issues related to assistive technologies? Or could OOo
> > make
> > progress such features?
> >
> > Thanks anyway for this great work. If I can localize, I think I'm going
> to
> > use
> > OOo on Windows more often. So far I only use it on Linux.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > JPM
> >
> > On samedi 30 mars 2013 à 22:05:18 (+0800), Steve Yin wrote:
> >> Jean,
> >>
> >> Welcome! It is very nice that you can join testing work and
> >> provide feedback. There is a branch named ia2 which is for AOO
> >> IAccessible2
> >> development use. The development work is still in progress. You can
> >> download the branch install package (binary for Windows) from
> >> http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#w7ia2 and see what we have
> done
> >> from
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your support!
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <
> >> mengualjean...@free.fr> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I'm very happy to know that people like Steve and Jennifer plan to
> deal
> >> > with
> >> > accessibility in OOo. I had submitted the fssue 1,5 year ago; it's
> very
> >> > cool if
> >> > things are in progress. Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > For me, I especially can help you by testing and doing feedbacks. Is
> >> > there
> >> > some
> >> > URL to download the release in test? This URL will involve and be
> >> > updated
> >> > at
> >> > this link? Is that a binary?
> >> >
> >> > Well. I'd be happy to support this work. Thanks again Steve to code
> for
> >> > this
> >> > issue!
> >> >
> >> > Best regards,
> >> >
> >> > JPM
> >> >
> >> > On samedi 23 mars 2013 à 22:17:04 (+0800), Steve Yin wrote:
> >> > > Thanks Andrea! You are a considerate person : )
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Andrea Pescetti <
> pesce...@apache.org
> >> > >wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Forwarding the answer below to Jennifer, who may have missed the
> >> > > > answer
> >> > > > since it seems she's not subscribed to the list. Andrea
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On 22/03/2013 Steve Yin wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Hi Jennifer,
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Welcome!
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> My name is Steve Yin. I am working on the IAccessible2 migration
> >> > > >> for
> >> > AOO
> >> > > >> Windows version. You can read our plan and get some useful
> >> > > >> information
> >> > > >> here:
> >> > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> >> > > >> AOO+4.0+IAccessible2<
> >> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2>
> >> > > >> .
> >> > > >> Thanks.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Doitblind Jennifer McKinley<
> >> > > >> j...@doitblind.com>  wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>  Hi,
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> My name is Jennifer McKinley.  I am the co-founder of Do It
> >> > > >>> Blind.
> >> >  My
> >> > > >>> business partner, John Martyn, and I would like to work with
> Open
> >> > Office
> >> > > >>> to
> >> > > >>> make it blind accessible.  We have already developed scripts for
> >> > other
> >> > > >>> very
> >> > > >>> popular programs like iTunes, Rhapsody, and Spotify.  

May I join the OOo?

[Sand Wen]

Hey guys, I have learned some of the OOo history and the OOo Architecture,
and I think maybe I can do something for OpenOffice, hope getting more
information from OOo.

 

Best Wishes!

Sand Wen

Re: Blind Accessibility

[Steve Yin]

Hi Jean,

Thanks for your work!

The current build of the branch "ia2" is a developing version and ready for
UI testing only. So all the issues you found will be fixed gradually in the
future versions. Now we are working on the document level and will update
the branch periodically. And we plan to finished the main work of the
IAccessible2 migration before November. Then the branch will be integrated
into the trunk. I think the localization work is in the scope of the trunk.
So you will not have to localize it by yourself. Thanks.



On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <
mengualjean...@free.fr> wrote:

> Hf,
>
> I did my 1st test today. Indeed it works fine. 2 categories of questions:
> is it possible to localize such release or not yet? Besides, the fact that
> the
> characters formatting isn't recognized, the navigating in the tables is
> not yet
> perfect: are they issues related to assistive technologies? Or could OOo
> make
> progress such features?
>
> Thanks anyway for this great work. If I can localize, I think I'm going to
> use
> OOo on Windows more often. So far I only use it on Linux.
>
> Regards,
>
> JPM
>
> On samedi 30 mars 2013 à 22:05:18 (+0800), Steve Yin wrote:
> > Jean,
> >
> > Welcome! It is very nice that you can join testing work and
> > provide feedback. There is a branch named ia2 which is for AOO
> IAccessible2
> > development use. The development work is still in progress. You can
> > download the branch install package (binary for Windows) from
> > http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#w7ia2 and see what we have
> done
> > from
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2.
> >
> > Thanks for your support!
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <
> > mengualjean...@free.fr> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm very happy to know that people like Steve and Jennifer plan to deal
> > > with
> > > accessibility in OOo. I had submitted the fssue 1,5 year ago; it's very
> > > cool if
> > > things are in progress. Thanks!
> > >
> > > For me, I especially can help you by testing and doing feedbacks. Is
> there
> > > some
> > > URL to download the release in test? This URL will involve and be
> updated
> > > at
> > > this link? Is that a binary?
> > >
> > > Well. I'd be happy to support this work. Thanks again Steve to code for
> > > this
> > > issue!
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > JPM
> > >
> > > On samedi 23 mars 2013 à 22:17:04 (+0800), Steve Yin wrote:
> > > > Thanks Andrea! You are a considerate person : )
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Andrea Pescetti <
> pesce...@apache.org
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Forwarding the answer below to Jennifer, who may have missed the
> answer
> > > > > since it seems she's not subscribed to the list. Andrea
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 22/03/2013 Steve Yin wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi Jennifer,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Welcome!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> My name is Steve Yin. I am working on the IAccessible2 migration
> for
> > > AOO
> > > > >> Windows version. You can read our plan and get some useful
> information
> > > > >> here:
> > > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> > > > >> AOO+4.0+IAccessible2<
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2>
> > > > >> .
> > > > >> Thanks.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Doitblind Jennifer McKinley<
> > > > >> j...@doitblind.com>  wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>  Hi,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> My name is Jennifer McKinley.  I am the co-founder of Do It
> Blind.
> > >  My
> > > > >>> business partner, John Martyn, and I would like to work with Open
> > > Office
> > > > >>> to
> > > > >>> make it blind accessible.  We have already developed scripts for
> > > other
> > > > >>> very
> > > > >>> popular programs like iTunes, Rhapsody, and Spotify.  Please
> visit
> > > > >>> doitblind.com for more information on them.  Who can we speak
> with
> > > in
> > > > >>> regards to making Open Office blind accessible?
> > > > >>> Please email me or call me.  We appreciate your time.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Thank you!
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Jennifer McKinley
> > > > >>> Co-Founder, Do It Blind, LLC
> > > > >>> doitblind.com
> > > > >>> 505-382-2641
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > >
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Re: download stats

[Yue Helen]

Thanks for quick update...well, it hasn't been there. I can understand if
it's because of the time to syn such a huge download number :-) Just a
reminder.

Helen

2013/4/2 Rob Weir 

> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Yue Helen 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm looking at the download stats here,
> >> http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html. It's still the number
> of
> >> 40M on Mar.3. Who can help to update it? Thanks.
> >>
> >>
> > I usually update the stats every 5 million downloads or so.  It is manual
> > work, not automated, so we do it once per month.
> >
> > It is April 1st, so it looks like a good day to update...
> >
> >
> OK.  It is updated now.  We're over 44 million now.  I think we could hit
> 50 million close to the start of May, when we have our 1-year anniversary
> for the release of AOO 3.4.
>
> -Rob
>
>
>
> > -Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >>  Helen
> >>
> >
> >
>

Re: FISL14, in Brazil

[Louis Suárez-Potts]

I certainly hope to make it there again, as I have nearly every year. But
this time, unlike last year, it would be *great* to have an AOO presence.
Last year, the OO presence there was under the flag of LibreOffice, and so
was the ODF identity.

If there is to be an us (AOO) there, let's synchronize. It could also be,
if Apache is planning on being there, adjunct to Apache--?

-louis


On 2 April 2013 18:57, Albino B Neto  wrote:

> Hi
>
> As every year here in Brazil is the FISL (Fórum Internacional de Software
> Livre) [1] event, this year will be the 14th edition.
>
> 1 - fisl.org.br
>
> Someone will come to the event ?
>
> Albino
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Re: OS for main AOO buildbots

[Kay Schenk]

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

> Andrew Rist wrote:
>
>> What version of CentOS do we want on this machine? We want the snapshot
>> builds to be fully usable.
>>
>
> I'll write here the reasoning behind this, so that it can be corrected if
> needed.
>
> Ariel's special version available at 
> http://www.openoffice.org/**porting/uses 
> glibc 2.5. It satisfies all users, including Red Hat 5 (and, fully
> compatible, CentOS 5) users. So adopting this as a baseline should
> guarantee that our binaries run on almost all vendor-supported
> distributions. Red Hat 5 and CentOS 5 are quite old but still supported
> from their vendors, and reasonably common in corporate environments.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.


Well, Ok. I think we need to maintain a secure environment with anything
used for our builds -- libraries, etc. That would be my only concern with
"older" items.



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Re: [Wiki]Trouble with extension on one particular page

[RGB ES]

2013/3/29 Ariel Constenla-Haile 

> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 07:27:30PM +0100, RGB ES wrote:
> > If you look at this page
> >
> >
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ES/Manuales/GuiaAOO/TemasAvanzados/Macros/StarBasic/TrabajandoConCalc/FuncionesPersonalizadas
> >
> > you'll see that all math objects are failing to parse. That's quite
> strange
> > because other pages using the same extension are working just perfectly.
> >
> > Any idea?
>
> It seems a recurrent problem, described in the manual:
>
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Enable_TeX/problems#Error_:_Failed_to_parse_.28Missing_texvc_executable.29
> (that said, I've no idea about all this stuff, it's just the first
> search result in Google).
>


I just tried to create a new page with math objects and they fail too. It
seems old pages are displayed right because of the heavy use of cache on
mwiki, but any new page gives the "failed to parse" error. I filled a bug
report for this:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121992

Regards
Ricardo



>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
>

FISL14, in Brazil

[Albino B Neto]

Hi
 
As every year here in Brazil is the FISL (Fórum Internacional de Software 
Livre) [1] event, this year will be the 14th edition.

1 - fisl.org.br

Someone will come to the event ?
 
Albino

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Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science

[newtongabrial]

We are researchers from different parts of the world and conducted a study on  
the world’s biggest bogus computer science conference WORLDCOMP 
( http://sites.google.com/site/worlddump1 ) organized by Prof. Hamid Arabnia 
from University of Georgia, USA.


We submitted a fake paper to WORLDCOMP 2011 and again (the 
same paper with a modified title) to WORLDCOMP 2012. This paper 
had numerous fundamental mistakes. Sample statements from 
that paper include: 

(1). Binary logic is fuzzy logic and vice versa
(2). Pascal developed fuzzy logic
(3). Object oriented languages do not exhibit any polymorphism or inheritance
(4). TCP and IP are synonyms and are part of OSI model 
(5). Distributed systems deal with only one computer
(6). Laptop is an example for a super computer
(7). Operating system is an example for computer hardware


Also, our paper did not express any conceptual meaning.  However, it 
was accepted both the times without any modifications (and without 
any reviews) and we were invited to submit the final paper and a 
payment of $500+ fee to present the paper. We decided to use the 
fee for better purposes than making Prof. Hamid Arabnia (Chairman 
of WORLDCOMP) rich. After that, we received few reminders from 
WORLDCOMP to pay the fee but we never responded. 


We MUST say that you should look at the above website if you have any thoughts 
to submit a paper to WORLDCOMP.  DBLP and other indexing agencies 
have stopped indexing WORLDCOMP’s proceedings since 2011 due to its fakeness. 
See http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/conf/icai/index.html for of one 
of the 
conferences of WORLDCOMP and notice that there is no listing after 2010. See 
http://sites.google.com/site/dumpconf for comments from well-known researchers 
about WORLDCOMP.


The status of your WORLDCOMP papers can be changed from “scientific” 
to “other” (i.e., junk or non-technical) at any time. See the comments 
http://www.mail-archive.com/tccc@lists.cs.columbia.edu/msg05168.html   
of a respected researcher on this. Better not to have a paper than 
having it in WORLDCOMP and spoil the resume and peace of mind forever!


Our study revealed that WORLDCOMP is a money making business, 
using University of Georgia mask, for Prof. Hamid Arabnia. He is throwing 
out a small chunk of that money (around 20 dollars per paper published 
in WORLDCOMP’s proceedings) to his puppet (Mr. Ashu Solo or A.M.G. Solo) 
who publicizes WORLDCOMP and also defends it at various forums, using 
fake/anonymous names. The puppet uses fake names and defames other conferences
to divert traffic to WORLDCOMP. That is, the puppet does all his best 
to get a maximum number of papers published at WORLDCOMP to get more 
money into his (and Prof. Hamid Arabnia’s) pockets. 


Monte Carlo Resort (the venue of WORLDCOMP until 2012) has refused to 
provide the venue for WORLDCOMP’13 because of the fears of their image 
being tarnished due to WORLDCOMP’s fraudulent activities. WORLDCOMP’13 
will be held at a different resort.


WORLDCOMP will not be held after 2013.


The paper submission deadline for WORLDCOMP’13 was March 18 and it is 
extended to April 6 (it will be extended many times, as usual) but 
still there are no committee members, no reviewers, and there is no 
conference Chairman. The only contact details available on WORLDCOMP’s 
website is just an email address! 


What bothers us the most is that Prof. Hamid Arabnia never posted an 
apology for the damage he has done to the research community.  He is still 
trying to defend WORLDCOMP. Let us make a direct request to him: publish 
all reviews for all the papers (after blocking identifiable details) since 
2000 conference. Reveal the names and affiliations of all the reviewers 
(for each year) and how many papers each reviewer had reviewed on average. 
We also request him to look at the Open Challenge at  
http://sites.google.com/site/dumpconf


Sorry for posting to multiple lists. Spreading the word is the only way to stop 
this bogus conference. Please forward this message to other mailing lists and 
people. 


We are shocked with Prof. Hamid Arabnia and his puppet’s activities 
http://worldcomp-fake-bogus.blogspot.com   Search Google using the 
keyword worldcomp fake for additional links.


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Re: Wiki VM maintenance

[janI]

I am on it.

rgds
Jan i.


On 2 April 2013 23:20, Andrew Rist  wrote:

> A quick heads up on the wiki.o.o - I've been chatting with infra and due
> to hardware issues, the
> VM will to move to another host tomorrow during European time (well, BST)
> Anyone wanting to help (usual suspects - Jan? imacat??? Wiki admins) out
> should monitor the infra IRC tomorrow
>
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Re: OS for main AOO buildbots

[Andrea Pescetti]

Andrew Rist wrote:

What version of CentOS do we want on this machine? We want the snapshot
builds to be fully usable.


I'll write here the reasoning behind this, so that it can be corrected 
if needed.


Ariel's special version available at http://www.openoffice.org/porting/ 
uses glibc 2.5. It satisfies all users, including Red Hat 5 (and, fully 
compatible, CentOS 5) users. So adopting this as a baseline should 
guarantee that our binaries run on almost all vendor-supported 
distributions. Red Hat 5 and CentOS 5 are quite old but still supported 
from their vendors, and reasonably common in corporate environments.


Regards,
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Re: OS for main AOO buildbots

[Kay Schenk]

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Andrew Rist  wrote:

> In discussions with infra, (mine and Andrea's) an idea has been hatched to
> create a CentOS buildbot.
> This would replace the defunct linux32 bot (previously ubuntu 10.4).
> In addition to changing the OS, we will also build this on the machine
> currently hosting the linux64 build.
> That bot has a whole machine to itself, so instead of a lightly used
> linux64 bot, the idea is to have a heavily
> used linux32 bot, with a flow for (most) every branch, for snapshots, and
> potentially for automated testing.
>
> Here's the question:
>
> What version of CentOS do we want on this machine?  We want the snapshot
> builds to be fully usable.
> (are there any other requirements we need to consider when building this
> machine?)
>

Wellthis is interesting. I don't know much about CentOS but just
briefly taking a look just now, I don't see any reason to NOT use the
latest and greatest -- CentOS 6. Others opinions may vary. :)

I can't determine the openJDK for this release. CentOS 5 has this bit of
info --

java-1.70-openjdk


I think the old buildbot was using openJDK 6.0.



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Re: Draft blog post: X-ApacheOpenOffice: A Portable Applications Version of Apache OpenOffice from winPenPack

[Kay Schenk]

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:

>
> https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=x_apacheopenoffice_a_portable_applications
>
> -Rob
>

very nice!

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Re: Draft blog post: X-ApacheOpenOffice: A Portable Applications Version of Apache OpenOffice from winPenPack

[Andrea Pescetti]

Rob Weir wrote:

https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=x_apacheopenoffice_a_portable_applications


Nice interview! My only doubt: you say "We interviewed Danilo Leggieri" 
but then all answers appear to be from the whole team, so maybe "We 
interviewed Danilo Leggieri ... and his team".


Donald Whytock wrote:

Would that involve a foundation ID?


Yes, access to the blog requires committer authentication.

Regards,
  Andrea.

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OS for main AOO buildbots

[Andrew Rist]

In discussions with infra, (mine and Andrea's) an idea has been hatched 
to create a CentOS buildbot.

This would replace the defunct linux32 bot (previously ubuntu 10.4).
In addition to changing the OS, we will also build this on the machine 
currently hosting the linux64 build.
That bot has a whole machine to itself, so instead of a lightly used 
linux64 bot, the idea is to have a heavily
used linux32 bot, with a flow for (most) every branch, for snapshots, 
and potentially for automated testing.


Here's the question:

What version of CentOS do we want on this machine?  We want the snapshot 
builds to be fully usable.
(are there any other requirements we need to consider when building this 
machine?)



A.


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Wiki VM maintenance

[Andrew Rist]

A quick heads up on the wiki.o.o - I've been chatting with infra and due 
to hardware issues, the

VM will to move to another host tomorrow during European time (well, BST)
Anyone wanting to help (usual suspects - Jan? imacat??? Wiki admins) out 
should monitor the infra IRC tomorrow


Andrew


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Re: Draft blog post: X-ApacheOpenOffice: A Portable Applications Version of Apache OpenOffice from winPenPack

[Donald Whytock]

Would that involve a foundation ID?  I never got around to putting my ICLA
in.


On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Donald Whytock  wrote:
>
> > Gotcha.  Okay, grammar-weenie-ing...general sentence structure not
> touched.
> >
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Have you thought of signing up for an editor's account for the blog?  It
> would probably be faster next time for you to make such changes directly.
>
> -Rob
>
>
> >
> > "Well, is really difficult" -> "Well, it is really difficult"
> >
> > "since the first moment has begun" -> "since the first moment it has
> begun"
> >
> > "both natively portable or" -> "both natively portable and"
> >
> > "by mean of X-Launcher" -> "by means of X-Launcher"
> >
> > "different disk letters" ?-> "different drive letters"
> >
> > "for only pure passion" ?-> "out of pure passion"
> >
> > "has different job" -> "has a different job"
> >
> > "The folders structure" -> "The folder structure"
> >
> > "In the root of this structure" -> "At the root of this structure"
> >
> > "the test and" -> "the testing and"
> >
> > "both team members or forum users" -> "a team member or a forum user"
> >
> > "Recent files are saved" -> "Recent files that are saved"
> >
> > "into the launcher, allows" -> "into the launcher allows"
> >
> > "present into the host" -> "present on the host"
> >
> > "in which be executed" -> "in which to be executed"
> >
> > "we answer to all users questions" -> "we respond to all users'
> questions"
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Donald Whytock 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Is the text response verbatim from the interviewee?  And therefore
> not
> > to
> > > > be proofed?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > I made some edits to normalize grammar and punctuation.  But we should
> > not
> > > change the meaning or the style.
> > >
> > > -Rob
> >
>

Re: Draft blog post: X-ApacheOpenOffice: A Portable Applications Version of Apache OpenOffice from winPenPack

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Donald Whytock  wrote:

> Gotcha.  Okay, grammar-weenie-ing...general sentence structure not touched.
>


Thanks!

Have you thought of signing up for an editor's account for the blog?  It
would probably be faster next time for you to make such changes directly.

-Rob


>
> "Well, is really difficult" -> "Well, it is really difficult"
>
> "since the first moment has begun" -> "since the first moment it has begun"
>
> "both natively portable or" -> "both natively portable and"
>
> "by mean of X-Launcher" -> "by means of X-Launcher"
>
> "different disk letters" ?-> "different drive letters"
>
> "for only pure passion" ?-> "out of pure passion"
>
> "has different job" -> "has a different job"
>
> "The folders structure" -> "The folder structure"
>
> "In the root of this structure" -> "At the root of this structure"
>
> "the test and" -> "the testing and"
>
> "both team members or forum users" -> "a team member or a forum user"
>
> "Recent files are saved" -> "Recent files that are saved"
>
> "into the launcher, allows" -> "into the launcher allows"
>
> "present into the host" -> "present on the host"
>
> "in which be executed" -> "in which to be executed"
>
> "we answer to all users questions" -> "we respond to all users' questions"
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Donald Whytock 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Is the text response verbatim from the interviewee?  And therefore not
> to
> > > be proofed?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I made some edits to normalize grammar and punctuation.  But we should
> not
> > change the meaning or the style.
> >
> > -Rob
>

Re: Draft blog post: X-ApacheOpenOffice: A Portable Applications Version of Apache OpenOffice from winPenPack

[Donald Whytock]

Gotcha.  Okay, grammar-weenie-ing...general sentence structure not touched.

"Well, is really difficult" -> "Well, it is really difficult"

"since the first moment has begun" -> "since the first moment it has begun"

"both natively portable or" -> "both natively portable and"

"by mean of X-Launcher" -> "by means of X-Launcher"

"different disk letters" ?-> "different drive letters"

"for only pure passion" ?-> "out of pure passion"

"has different job" -> "has a different job"

"The folders structure" -> "The folder structure"

"In the root of this structure" -> "At the root of this structure"

"the test and" -> "the testing and"

"both team members or forum users" -> "a team member or a forum user"

"Recent files are saved" -> "Recent files that are saved"

"into the launcher, allows" -> "into the launcher allows"

"present into the host" -> "present on the host"

"in which be executed" -> "in which to be executed"

"we answer to all users questions" -> "we respond to all users' questions"



On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Donald Whytock  wrote:
>
> > Is the text response verbatim from the interviewee?  And therefore not
to
> > be proofed?
> >
> >
>
> I made some edits to normalize grammar and punctuation.  But we should not
> change the meaning or the style.
>
> -Rob

Re: Blind Accessibility

[Waldorf PC]

Hi:

It is a relief that I am not the only one who has concerns about
accessibility. Jennifer, thank you for jumping on board with this, as
I have been swamped with my own work and all.

I tried downloading Symphony, and it was a disaster. I never got the
program to work, and it ended up causing registry problems. I could
not even delete the program in the regular fashion by going through
the control panel. I had to manually delete it and take it out of the
registry. I have decided not to revisit Symphony and wait for the new
release of Open Office. Since this test version is now available, I
wish to test it out on my own machine. I am running Windows 8. Please
let me know if it will work on this machine or if I will have to use
another machine with an older operating system. I will run this
release through a rigorous testing protocol and will be able to let
you know if it is an assistive technology issue or a program issue,
and I will provide you with a fix to bridge the gap.

I am so glad we can all work together on this.

Warm regards,
Reina Grosvalet



On 4/2/13, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL  wrote:
> Hf,
>
> I did my 1st test today. Indeed it works fine. 2 categories of questions:
> is it possible to localize such release or not yet? Besides, the fact that
> the
> characters formatting isn't recognized, the navigating in the tables is not
> yet
> perfect: are they issues related to assistive technologies? Or could OOo
> make
> progress such features?
>
> Thanks anyway for this great work. If I can localize, I think I'm going to
> use
> OOo on Windows more often. So far I only use it on Linux.
>
> Regards,
>
> JPM
>
> On samedi 30 mars 2013 à 22:05:18 (+0800), Steve Yin wrote:
>> Jean,
>>
>> Welcome! It is very nice that you can join testing work and
>> provide feedback. There is a branch named ia2 which is for AOO
>> IAccessible2
>> development use. The development work is still in progress. You can
>> download the branch install package (binary for Windows) from
>> http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#w7ia2 and see what we have done
>> from
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2.
>>
>> Thanks for your support!
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <
>> mengualjean...@free.fr> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm very happy to know that people like Steve and Jennifer plan to deal
>> > with
>> > accessibility in OOo. I had submitted the fssue 1,5 year ago; it's very
>> > cool if
>> > things are in progress. Thanks!
>> >
>> > For me, I especially can help you by testing and doing feedbacks. Is
>> > there
>> > some
>> > URL to download the release in test? This URL will involve and be
>> > updated
>> > at
>> > this link? Is that a binary?
>> >
>> > Well. I'd be happy to support this work. Thanks again Steve to code for
>> > this
>> > issue!
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > JPM
>> >
>> > On samedi 23 mars 2013 à 22:17:04 (+0800), Steve Yin wrote:
>> > > Thanks Andrea! You are a considerate person : )
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Andrea Pescetti > > >wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Forwarding the answer below to Jennifer, who may have missed the
>> > > > answer
>> > > > since it seems she's not subscribed to the list. Andrea
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On 22/03/2013 Steve Yin wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Hi Jennifer,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Welcome!
>> > > >>
>> > > >> My name is Steve Yin. I am working on the IAccessible2 migration
>> > > >> for
>> > AOO
>> > > >> Windows version. You can read our plan and get some useful
>> > > >> information
>> > > >> here:
>> > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>> > > >> AOO+4.0+IAccessible2<
>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2>
>> > > >> .
>> > > >> Thanks.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Doitblind Jennifer McKinley<
>> > > >> j...@doitblind.com>  wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >>  Hi,
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> My name is Jennifer McKinley.  I am the co-founder of Do It
>> > > >>> Blind.
>> >  My
>> > > >>> business partner, John Martyn, and I would like to work with Open
>> > Office
>> > > >>> to
>> > > >>> make it blind accessible.  We have already developed scripts for
>> > other
>> > > >>> very
>> > > >>> popular programs like iTunes, Rhapsody, and Spotify.  Please
>> > > >>> visit
>> > > >>> doitblind.com for more information on them.  Who can we speak
>> > > >>> with
>> > in
>> > > >>> regards to making Open Office blind accessible?
>> > > >>> Please email me or call me.  We appreciate your time.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Thank you!
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Jennifer McKinley
>> > > >>> Co-Founder, Do It Blind, LLC
>> > > >>> doitblind.com
>> > > >>> 505-382-2641
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > --**--**-
>> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org<
>> > dev-unsubscr...@openoffice

Re: Draft blog post: X-ApacheOpenOffice: A Portable Applications Version of Apache OpenOffice from winPenPack

[Roberto Galoppini]

Great job Rob, like it.

Also good to see another Italian doing cool stuff!

Roberto


2013/4/2 Rob Weir 

> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Donald Whytock  wrote:
>
> > Is the text response verbatim from the interviewee?  And therefore not to
> > be proofed?
> >
> >
>
> I made some edits to normalize grammar and punctuation.  But we should not
> change the meaning or the style.
>
> -Rob
>
>
>
>
> > Don
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=x_apacheopenoffice_a_portable_applications
> > >
> > > -Rob
> > >
> >
>

Re: Draft blog post: X-ApacheOpenOffice: A Portable Applications Version of Apache OpenOffice from winPenPack

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Donald Whytock  wrote:

> Is the text response verbatim from the interviewee?  And therefore not to
> be proofed?
>
>

I made some edits to normalize grammar and punctuation.  But we should not
change the meaning or the style.

-Rob




> Don
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
> >
> >
> https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=x_apacheopenoffice_a_portable_applications
> >
> > -Rob
> >
>

Re: Draft blog post: X-ApacheOpenOffice: A Portable Applications Version of Apache OpenOffice from winPenPack

[Donald Whytock]

Is the text response verbatim from the interviewee?  And therefore not to
be proofed?

Don


On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:

>
> https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=x_apacheopenoffice_a_portable_applications
>
> -Rob
>

Re: Blind Accessibility

[Jean-Philippe MENGUAL]

Hf,

I did my 1st test today. Indeed it works fine. 2 categories of questions:
is it possible to localize such release or not yet? Besides, the fact that the
characters formatting isn't recognized, the navigating in the tables is not yet
perfect: are they issues related to assistive technologies? Or could OOo make
progress such features?

Thanks anyway for this great work. If I can localize, I think I'm going to use
OOo on Windows more often. So far I only use it on Linux.

Regards,

JPM

On samedi 30 mars 2013 à 22:05:18 (+0800), Steve Yin wrote:
> Jean,
> 
> Welcome! It is very nice that you can join testing work and
> provide feedback. There is a branch named ia2 which is for AOO IAccessible2
> development use. The development work is still in progress. You can
> download the branch install package (binary for Windows) from
> http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#w7ia2 and see what we have done
> from
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2.
> 
> Thanks for your support!
> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <
> mengualjean...@free.fr> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm very happy to know that people like Steve and Jennifer plan to deal
> > with
> > accessibility in OOo. I had submitted the fssue 1,5 year ago; it's very
> > cool if
> > things are in progress. Thanks!
> >
> > For me, I especially can help you by testing and doing feedbacks. Is there
> > some
> > URL to download the release in test? This URL will involve and be updated
> > at
> > this link? Is that a binary?
> >
> > Well. I'd be happy to support this work. Thanks again Steve to code for
> > this
> > issue!
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > JPM
> >
> > On samedi 23 mars 2013 à 22:17:04 (+0800), Steve Yin wrote:
> > > Thanks Andrea! You are a considerate person : )
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Andrea Pescetti  > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Forwarding the answer below to Jennifer, who may have missed the answer
> > > > since it seems she's not subscribed to the list. Andrea
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 22/03/2013 Steve Yin wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Jennifer,
> > > >>
> > > >> Welcome!
> > > >>
> > > >> My name is Steve Yin. I am working on the IAccessible2 migration for
> > AOO
> > > >> Windows version. You can read our plan and get some useful information
> > > >> here:
> > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> > > >> AOO+4.0+IAccessible2<
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2>
> > > >> .
> > > >> Thanks.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Doitblind Jennifer McKinley<
> > > >> j...@doitblind.com>  wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>  Hi,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> My name is Jennifer McKinley.  I am the co-founder of Do It Blind.
> >  My
> > > >>> business partner, John Martyn, and I would like to work with Open
> > Office
> > > >>> to
> > > >>> make it blind accessible.  We have already developed scripts for
> > other
> > > >>> very
> > > >>> popular programs like iTunes, Rhapsody, and Spotify.  Please visit
> > > >>> doitblind.com for more information on them.  Who can we speak with
> > in
> > > >>> regards to making Open Office blind accessible?
> > > >>> Please email me or call me.  We appreciate your time.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thank you!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Jennifer McKinley
> > > >>> Co-Founder, Do It Blind, LLC
> > > >>> doitblind.com
> > > >>> 505-382-2641
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > --**--**-
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> > dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org>
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Steve Yin
> >
> > -
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> >
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
> Steve Yin

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Draft blog post: X-ApacheOpenOffice: A Portable Applications Version of Apache OpenOffice from winPenPack

[Rob Weir]

https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=x_apacheopenoffice_a_portable_applications

-Rob

Re: Writer save error

[Keith Brown]

Hi Keith,

Keith Brown schrieb:


   Hi. I'm writing a book with a large number of equations and
cross-references in it and recently ran up against a problem saving the
file. There are approximately 4800 equations currently in the text and
many cross-references and figures. When I add equations I get a save
error: "Error saving the document , General Error. General
input/output error."

   I don't know if this is a bug in the program or a "feature". Is there
a coded limit to the number of equations that can be put into a
document? If so, in what file in the source would I find it specifically?


Have you already increased the "Cache for inserted objects" in Tools > 
Options > OpenOffice.rg > Memory? The value seems to be limited to 1024. You 
need the highest setting.


I don't know, whether a limit exists. Try whether the problem disappears, 
when you divide the document in two parts.


  Hi Regina. Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, after increasing to 
1024 the file saving problem still exists. I also backed off on the number 
of undo steps and the memory per object to save some memory but to no 
avail.


  I wonder, would it be possible to increase the cache in the source and 
recompile the program?



Dr. Keith Brown
Department of Chemistry/
Saskatchewan Structural Sciences Center
University of Saskatchewan
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
306-966-1725
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Re: 4.0 status

[Risto Jääskeläinen]

Hello!

I find out that the link is working much better witout dot at the end of it.

Regards
Risto

Yue Helen [helenyu...@gmail.com] kirjoitti: 

Maybe others have been looking at this...please step in if you are doing
this.

Given we are now close to Apr.5 (the planned regression test date), this
could be a good time for us to look at the current status for all the items
(features/enhancements) in 4.0.

I'm looking at the wiki page here,
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Planning.
Two questions here, 1) do we have more new items in 4.0? if yes, can people
help to add? 2) still quite some items are at the "proposed" status...we
may need to either update the status, or move some to future candidates.
Thoughts?

Thanks
Helen





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Re: download stats

[Albino B Neto]

> De: Rob Weir ; Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 1 de Abril de 
> 2013 17:59
> OK.  It is updated now.  We're over 44 million now.  I think we could hit
> 50 million close to the start of May, when we have our 1-year anniversary
> for the release of AOO 3.4.


Good. :-)

Call for designers [1] in pt-br.

1 - 
http://br-linux.org/2013/chamada-para-novo-logotipo-do-apache-openoffice-4-0/

Albino

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Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])

[janI]

For interested look at:

INFRA-6097 which request mysql optimization and
INFRA-6098 which request httpd/ats/php optimization

They are assigned to me, but when I do it, I need somebody to help
test...any volunteers ?

rgds
jan I.




On 2 April 2013 13:03, imacat  wrote:

> Waoh... You are awesome!
>
> On 2013/04/02 15:22, janI said:
> > HI.
> >
> > I have now been on the forum vm, testing my new access.
> >
> > While I was in there I made a couple of observations:
> >
> > 1) number of apache work thread > mysql max_connections, which is
> generally
> > a bad idea. The number of work tasks is higher than the actual load calls
> > for, so the work parameter should be adjusted.
> > 2) mysql tables are not performing too well (indexes), it seems they were
> > last tuned ages ago. Some of the table could benefit from being converted
> > to innoDb.
> > 3) memory/disk and other resources are fine and not a problem
> >
> > 4) due to the heavy php usage, the site would benefit from fast-cgi
> > (requires httpd upgrade)
> > 5) It seems that a lot of identical pages are been requested, using
> > trafficserver would lower the mysql load a lot (on wiki2 the difference
> is
> > more or less double). This might also call for some more memory.
> >
> > Some work for the new maintenance team.
> > rgds
> > jan I.
> >
>
>
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Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])

[imacat]

Waoh... You are awesome!

On 2013/04/02 15:22, janI said:
> HI.
> 
> I have now been on the forum vm, testing my new access.
> 
> While I was in there I made a couple of observations:
> 
> 1) number of apache work thread > mysql max_connections, which is generally
> a bad idea. The number of work tasks is higher than the actual load calls
> for, so the work parameter should be adjusted.
> 2) mysql tables are not performing too well (indexes), it seems they were
> last tuned ages ago. Some of the table could benefit from being converted
> to innoDb.
> 3) memory/disk and other resources are fine and not a problem
> 
> 4) due to the heavy php usage, the site would benefit from fast-cgi
> (requires httpd upgrade)
> 5) It seems that a lot of identical pages are been requested, using
> trafficserver would lower the mysql load a lot (on wiki2 the difference is
> more or less double). This might also call for some more memory.
> 
> Some work for the new maintenance team.
> rgds
> jan I.
> 


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Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])

[janI]

HI.

I have now been on the forum vm, testing my new access.

While I was in there I made a couple of observations:

1) number of apache work thread > mysql max_connections, which is generally
a bad idea. The number of work tasks is higher than the actual load calls
for, so the work parameter should be adjusted.
2) mysql tables are not performing too well (indexes), it seems they were
last tuned ages ago. Some of the table could benefit from being converted
to innoDb.
3) memory/disk and other resources are fine and not a problem

4) due to the heavy php usage, the site would benefit from fast-cgi
(requires httpd upgrade)
5) It seems that a lot of identical pages are been requested, using
trafficserver would lower the mysql load a lot (on wiki2 the difference is
more or less double). This might also call for some more memory.

Some work for the new maintenance team.
rgds
jan I.