Re: [RELEASE]:_ new snapshot build based on trunk rev 1491858

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 6/12/13 1:14 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 6/11/13 6:15 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would like to propose a new snapshot build based on trunk rev 1491858,
>> revision 1491860 on the SNAPSHOT
>>
>> I will include the following languages en-GB en-US es nl sk ru
>>
>> The next languages are probably pt-BR ko fr
>>
>> Juergen
>>
> 
> There will be a delay because I am currently not able to build a lang
> version. I am working on it...
> 
> Juergen
> 

Windows is uploaded ->
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/windows/

I will update the wiki asap but first I have to investigate in MacOS
build problem for localized builds.

Juergen

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Re: Build AOO in Win7 Troubles

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 6/13/13 6:56 AM, Ivan Fuentes wrote:
> Hi,
> I was bulding with ./bootstrap instruction
> and i got this message:

I don't understand what you mean here. Assuming that you have all
prerequisites in place...

1. run configure with the appropriate parameters
2. run bootstrap
3. source the winenv.set.sh
4. moving in instsetoo_native and running "build --all"

Juergen

> 
> Total time: 25 seconds
> dmake:  Error code 1, while making './
> wntmsci12.pro/misc/build/so_built_so_hsqldb'
> 
> 1 module(s):
> hsqldb
> need(s) to be rebuilt
> 
> Reason(s):
> 
> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
> /cygdrive/c/source/aoo-trunk/main/hsqldb
> 
> 
> How can i continue? :S
> 
> 
> 2013/6/11 Ivan Fuentes 
> 
>> I fixed the MATLAB Error, i still don't know what it was using it.
>> I only had to install gmake and run the cygwin like administrator :)
>>
> 
> 
> 


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Re: Introduction

[Andrea Pescetti]

Forwarding the answer below to Sowmya, who may not be subscribed to the 
list. Andrea


Raphael Bircher wrote:

Hi Sowmya


Am 13.06.13 02:36, schrieb Sowmya Dibdalli:

Hi All,

I am Sowmya. I want to work on open source projects.
I have worked as software test engineer. I am interested in
programming, so
want to work on development projects.

Welcome at the Apache OpenOffice Project. You can start here
(http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/index.html). If you have
questions, you can ask on the list.

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Re: Article on the Register

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 6/12/13 6:48 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> On 12/06/2013 Andre Fischer wrote:
>> Can we have both?  Some longer living, semi-'official' news and a more
>> frequently changing list of recent blog posts.  I find both important
>> and interesting.  And having blog posts listed on the main page may be
>> an incentive to more people writing new posts.
> 
> Adding "Blog" to the main navigation bar is surely helpful. For
> something more similar to what Andre asked for, I've just committed a
> test to
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/test/index.html
> (if it gets published, no problem, it will still be in the test area).
> 
> There you can see a block with the titles of the latest posts, good to
> show immediately what the blog topics are.
> 
> Unless there are objections, I plan to port it to the "real" homepage
> during the weekend.

Maybe it possible to show the first sentence, first line or first
paragraph when we replace the news section completely.

And when we use the blog for new we should ensure that not only Rob is
blogging and that we have more names there ;-)

Juergen

PS: reminding my self to blog more often

> 
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
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Re: service ResultSet

[Rajath Shashidhara]

Hello Ariel,

I changed:
registration.classname=org.apache.aoo.ucp.cmisucp.ucp.CMISContentProvider
central.registration.class=org.apache.aoo.ucp.cmisucp.ucp.CentralRegistrationClass


I created the .oxt. Reinstalled. Still have the same problem.!

Also, I did not understand what you mean by component factory
implementation. I have not implemented any component factory! Please
clarify. Sorry, for repeated questions!


On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 09:30:58AM +0530, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
> > Hello Ariel,
> >
> > Thanks for your input.
> > Lately, I'm experiencing an error with installing .oxt.
> > As per the suggestion of Juergen, I changed the package name of my code
> for
> > apache.ooffice.gsoc.cmisucp.ucp. to org.apache.aoo.cmisucp.ucp.
> > I deleted the previously installed extension and installed the new one.
> > after installation it shows an error dialog with both the package names
> and
> > exits.
> >
> > How do i resolve this?
>
> You have to adapt a properties file named project-uno.properties,
> located inside the nbproject folder (Ctrl-2, window "Files"):
>
>
> central.registration.class=apache.ooffice.gsoc.cmisucp.ucp.CentralRegistrationClass
> registration.classname=apache.ooffice.gsoc.cmisucp.ucp.CMISContentProvider
> org.apache.aoo.ucp.cmisucp.cmis.ucp.unoobjects.CMISDynamicResultSet
> org.apache.aoo.ucp.cmisucp.cmis.ucp.unoobjects.CMISResultSet
> org.apache.aoo.ucp.cmisucp.cmis.ucp.unoobjects.CMISDynamicResultSet
> org.CMISResultSet
>
> you have the old names. Note that in registration.classname you put all
> the UNO components in your project that you want to register in the
> office. The only one that is really needed is the provider, you don't
> need to make a component out of all the UNO object you are implementing.
>
> You also need to fix the component factory implementation: it must
> return always the same instance.
>
>
> > My previous question is unanswered.
>
> I leave this to Jürgen :) (or I'll answer later in the morning, it's
> 2 AM here, I'm going to sleep).
>
>
> > In the implementation of service
> > ResultSet, the method m_RowCount can take values from 0.X+1 where X
> is
> > the number of rows . Is this right? or the next() just increases the
> value
> > of m_RowCount by 1 without checking if it is in this range?
>
> Just in case you want to dive into the C++ implementation:
>
> The implementation of the service
> com.sun.star.ucb.ContentResultSet is ucbhelper::ResultSet
>
> main/ucbhelper/inc/ucbhelper/resultset.hxx
> main/ucbhelper/source/provider/resultset.cxx
>
> It works with a data supplier, implemented in the respective UCPs, see
> for example
>
> main/ucb/source/ucp/webdav/webdavdatasupplier.hxx
> main/ucb/source/ucp/webdav/webdavdatasupplier.cxx
>
> Search how ResultSet::next(), ResultSet::isBeforeFirst(),
> ResultSet::first(), call the supplier's getResult() with an index, which
> calls getData() - the function that actually retrieves the data.
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
>



-- 
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M.Sc(Hons.) Physics,
Birla Institute of Technology and Science - Pilani,
Pilani

Re: service ResultSet

[Ariel Constenla-Haile]

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 09:30:58AM +0530, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
> Hello Ariel,
> 
> Thanks for your input.
> Lately, I'm experiencing an error with installing .oxt.
> As per the suggestion of Juergen, I changed the package name of my code for
> apache.ooffice.gsoc.cmisucp.ucp. to org.apache.aoo.cmisucp.ucp.
> I deleted the previously installed extension and installed the new one.
> after installation it shows an error dialog with both the package names and
> exits.
> 
> How do i resolve this?

You have to adapt a properties file named project-uno.properties,
located inside the nbproject folder (Ctrl-2, window "Files"):

central.registration.class=apache.ooffice.gsoc.cmisucp.ucp.CentralRegistrationClass
registration.classname=apache.ooffice.gsoc.cmisucp.ucp.CMISContentProvider 
org.apache.aoo.ucp.cmisucp.cmis.ucp.unoobjects.CMISDynamicResultSet 
org.apache.aoo.ucp.cmisucp.cmis.ucp.unoobjects.CMISResultSet 
org.apache.aoo.ucp.cmisucp.cmis.ucp.unoobjects.CMISDynamicResultSet 
org.CMISResultSet

you have the old names. Note that in registration.classname you put all
the UNO components in your project that you want to register in the
office. The only one that is really needed is the provider, you don't
need to make a component out of all the UNO object you are implementing.

You also need to fix the component factory implementation: it must
return always the same instance.


> My previous question is unanswered.

I leave this to Jürgen :) (or I'll answer later in the morning, it's
2 AM here, I'm going to sleep).


> In the implementation of service
> ResultSet, the method m_RowCount can take values from 0.X+1 where X is
> the number of rows . Is this right? or the next() just increases the value
> of m_RowCount by 1 without checking if it is in this range?

Just in case you want to dive into the C++ implementation:

The implementation of the service
com.sun.star.ucb.ContentResultSet is ucbhelper::ResultSet

main/ucbhelper/inc/ucbhelper/resultset.hxx
main/ucbhelper/source/provider/resultset.cxx

It works with a data supplier, implemented in the respective UCPs, see
for example

main/ucb/source/ucp/webdav/webdavdatasupplier.hxx
main/ucb/source/ucp/webdav/webdavdatasupplier.cxx

Search how ResultSet::next(), ResultSet::isBeforeFirst(),
ResultSet::first(), call the supplier's getResult() with an index, which
calls getData() - the function that actually retrieves the data.


Regards
-- 
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La Plata, Argentina


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Re: Build AOO in Win7 Troubles

[Ivan Fuentes]

Hi,
I was bulding with ./bootstrap instruction
and i got this message:

Total time: 25 seconds
dmake:  Error code 1, while making './
wntmsci12.pro/misc/build/so_built_so_hsqldb'

1 module(s):
hsqldb
need(s) to be rebuilt

Reason(s):

ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
/cygdrive/c/source/aoo-trunk/main/hsqldb


How can i continue? :S


2013/6/11 Ivan Fuentes 

> I fixed the MATLAB Error, i still don't know what it was using it.
> I only had to install gmake and run the cygwin like administrator :)
>



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"... and to make the darkness bright
paint the sky with stars"
[Iván Fuentes]

Re: service ResultSet

[Rajath Shashidhara]

Hello Ariel,

Thanks for your input.
Lately, I'm experiencing an error with installing .oxt.
As per the suggestion of Juergen, I changed the package name of my code for
apache.ooffice.gsoc.cmisucp.ucp. to org.apache.aoo.cmisucp.ucp.
I deleted the previously installed extension and installed the new one.
after installation it shows an error dialog with both the package names and
exits.

How do i resolve this?

The data sink thing is clear from the api reference for XCommandProcessor.
But, thanks for clarifying my wrong concept of document. Now I'll check if
the basetype of object stored in the cmis repository is a "cmis:document".

My previous question is unanswered. In the implementation of service
ResultSet, the method m_RowCount can take values from 0.X+1 where X is
the number of rows . Is this right? or the next() just increases the value
of m_RowCount by 1 without checking if it is in this range?



On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 09:01:51AM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> > On 6/12/13 8:45 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
> > > Hello Juergen,
> > >
> > > I'm following this:
> > >
> http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/ucb/Content.html
> > >  .
> > > Is there any other revised source that I have to follow?
> >
> > ok, I see what you mean. You have to implement simply a UNO object
> > implementing the XRow interface. And yes the docu say it is similar to a
> > ResultSet.
>
> An XRow is the return type of the command "getPropertyValues", but when
> the command is "open" and OpenCommandArgument::Mode: is OpenMode::ALL or
> OpenMode::FOLDERS or OpenMode::DOCUMENTS the return type must be
> an XDynamicResultSet:
>
>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/ucb/source/ucp/ftp/ftpcontent.cxx?revision=1413471&view=markup#l551
>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/ucb/source/ucp/package/pkgcontent.cxx?revision=1413471&view=markup#l1525
>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/ucb/source/ucp/tdoc/tdoc_content.cxx?revision=1413471&view=markup#l1504
>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/ucb/source/ucp/webdav/webdavcontent.cxx?revision=1460359&view=markup#l2168
>
> > >> But the return datatype of Open Command is a dynamic result set. So, a
> > >> result set service must be implemented right?
>
> yes, when OpenCommandArgument::Mode: is OpenMode::ALL or OpenMode::FOLDERS
> or OpenMode::DOCUMENTS.
>
> When the "open" command tries to open a document, you must put the
> document stream into OpenCommandArgument::Sink.
>
> Please note that you are handling a wrong concept of "document". In the
> UCB context, a document is any content that "can dump itself into a data
> sink"; you are handling this as if documents were only AOO documents:
>
> in private Object obtainProperties():
>else if(p.Name.equals("IsDocument"))
>
> result.add(content.getType().getDisplayName().equals("openDocument")?"True":"False");
>
>
> Besides, you shouldn't rely on the display name, use instead
>
> http://chemistry.apache.org/java/0.8.0/maven/apidocs/org/apache/chemistry/opencmis/client/api/ObjectType.html
>
> There are 4 type of CMIS objects: document, folder, policy,
> relationship; the first two can be mapped to the UCB properties
> IsDocument and IsFolder, respectively.
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
>



-- 
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M.Sc(Hons.) Physics,
Birla Institute of Technology and Science - Pilani,
Pilani

Re: Congratulations to Andrea and Andrew!

[imacat]

Congratulations!

On 2013年06月12日 01:41, Dave Fisher said:
> 
> On Jun 11, 2013, at 9:20 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>>
>>> Both Andrea Pescetti and Andrew Rist were among those elected as new
>>> ASF Members.
>>>
>>> Congratulations for the well-deserved recognition!
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>
>> YES! Congratulations indeed...
>>
>> https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_software_foundation_welcomes2
> 
> Yes, congratulations indeed! Welcome to ASF Membership!
> 
> Best Regards,
> Dave
> 
>>
>>
>>
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Re: service ResultSet

[Ariel Constenla-Haile]

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 09:01:51AM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 6/12/13 8:45 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
> > Hello Juergen,
> > 
> > I'm following this:
> > http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/ucb/Content.html
> >  .
> > Is there any other revised source that I have to follow?
> 
> ok, I see what you mean. You have to implement simply a UNO object
> implementing the XRow interface. And yes the docu say it is similar to a
> ResultSet.

An XRow is the return type of the command "getPropertyValues", but when
the command is "open" and OpenCommandArgument::Mode: is OpenMode::ALL or
OpenMode::FOLDERS or OpenMode::DOCUMENTS the return type must be
an XDynamicResultSet:

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/ucb/source/ucp/ftp/ftpcontent.cxx?revision=1413471&view=markup#l551
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/ucb/source/ucp/package/pkgcontent.cxx?revision=1413471&view=markup#l1525
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/ucb/source/ucp/tdoc/tdoc_content.cxx?revision=1413471&view=markup#l1504
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/ucb/source/ucp/webdav/webdavcontent.cxx?revision=1460359&view=markup#l2168

> >> But the return datatype of Open Command is a dynamic result set. So, a
> >> result set service must be implemented right?

yes, when OpenCommandArgument::Mode: is OpenMode::ALL or OpenMode::FOLDERS
or OpenMode::DOCUMENTS.

When the "open" command tries to open a document, you must put the
document stream into OpenCommandArgument::Sink.

Please note that you are handling a wrong concept of "document". In the
UCB context, a document is any content that "can dump itself into a data
sink"; you are handling this as if documents were only AOO documents:

in private Object obtainProperties():
   else if(p.Name.equals("IsDocument"))

result.add(content.getType().getDisplayName().equals("openDocument")?"True":"False");


Besides, you shouldn't rely on the display name, use instead
http://chemistry.apache.org/java/0.8.0/maven/apidocs/org/apache/chemistry/opencmis/client/api/ObjectType.html

There are 4 type of CMIS objects: document, folder, policy,
relationship; the first two can be mapped to the UCB properties
IsDocument and IsFolder, respectively.


Regards
-- 
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La Plata, Argentina


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Re: Introduction

[Raphael Bircher]

Hi Sowmya


Am 13.06.13 02:36, schrieb Sowmya Dibdalli:

Hi All,

I am Sowmya. I want to work on open source projects.
I have worked as software test engineer. I am interested in programming, so
want to work on development projects.
Welcome at the Apache OpenOffice Project. You can start here 
(http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/index.html). If you have 
questions, you can ask on the list.


Greetings Raphael


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Introduction

[Sowmya Dibdalli]

Hi All,

I am Sowmya. I want to work on open source projects.
I have worked as software test engineer. I am interested in programming, so
want to work on development projects.

Regards,
Sowmya

Issues with he silent installations on windows

[Alexandro Colorado]

There seems to be issues after the MSI file is ran under silent
installation. I asked about this some days ago but still havent recieved
much feedback. Anyone involved with the ways AOO MSI is supposed to
respond?

Are there bugs to be reported (or already waiting for a fix)?

The issue is about a dialog asking the user to use the setup.exe after
running the msi on silent-mode.


-- 
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Apache OpenOffice Contributor
http://es.openoffice.org

Re: new logo on test website

[Kay Schenk]

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton  wrote:

> I know this is approved and all, and I like it too (though the Orb seems a
> bit apart from the text).
>
> If I was Apache Branding, though, I'd be disappointed that "Apache" is
> barely visible.  It has about as much punch as the tiny "TM".
>
>  - Dennis
>

I think if the text were a *bit* darker, it would be fine...we'll see what
others think.


>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 01:44 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: new logo on test website
>
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Marcus (OOo) 
> wrote:
>
> > Am 06/12/2013 06:53 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
> >
> >  A quick mockup of the new logo with www.openoffice.org is available
> from:
> >>
> >> http://www.openoffice.org/**test/ 
> >>
> >> As the new logo needs alignment etc., more coming soon. (and mockups for
> >> the project site)
> >>
> >> I must say that I really like this and feels it brightens things up! :)
> >>
> >
> > absolutely, looks fresh and new. Thanks for the test.
> >
> > Is the bigger white space around the logo intended - compared with the
> old
> > one? If not, I would suggest to reduce it, so that the same space is
> used.
> > Because currently everything below is wrapped a bit lower.
> >
> > Marcus
> >
>
> It needs to resized some -- I will play with this. I actually like the
> larger size of the whole logo though compared to the old one. It seems to
> give more space and visual appeal in some way. It needs to be cropped at
> the top and left so it lines up better with the text. I'll see what I can
> do.
>
> @RGB on the older logo. Hmmm yes...maybe we should use a different
> graphic for this item altogether. Right now we don't have an svg for just
> the new orb. I think that may be in process.
>
>
> >
> >
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RE: new logo on test website

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

I know this is approved and all, and I like it too (though the Orb seems a bit 
apart from the text).

If I was Apache Branding, though, I'd be disappointed that "Apache" is barely 
visible.  It has about as much punch as the tiny "TM".

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 01:44 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: new logo on test website

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:

> Am 06/12/2013 06:53 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>
>  A quick mockup of the new logo with www.openoffice.org is available from:
>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/**test/ 
>>
>> As the new logo needs alignment etc., more coming soon. (and mockups for
>> the project site)
>>
>> I must say that I really like this and feels it brightens things up! :)
>>
>
> absolutely, looks fresh and new. Thanks for the test.
>
> Is the bigger white space around the logo intended - compared with the old
> one? If not, I would suggest to reduce it, so that the same space is used.
> Because currently everything below is wrapped a bit lower.
>
> Marcus
>

It needs to resized some -- I will play with this. I actually like the
larger size of the whole logo though compared to the old one. It seems to
give more space and visual appeal in some way. It needs to be cropped at
the top and left so it lines up better with the text. I'll see what I can
do.

@RGB on the older logo. Hmmm yes...maybe we should use a different
graphic for this item altogether. Right now we don't have an svg for just
the new orb. I think that may be in process.


>
>
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Re: non-pro build of r1491954 on Windows breaks in sal

[Regina Henschel]

Hi Oliver,

Oliver-Rainer Wittmann schrieb:

Hi,

On 12.06.2013 09:43, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

On 12.06.2013 00:15, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Oliver,

I have applied your patch. "sal" finished, but now it breaks in 'tools'

C:/AOO_2013_06_08/trunk/main/solver/400/wntmsci12/inc/stl\config/stl_select_lib.h(26)


: fatal error C1189: #error :  "For static link with STLport library,
_DEBUG setting MUST be on when _STLP_DEBUG is on. (/MTd forces _DEBUG)"
C:/AOO_2013_06_08/trunk/main/solenv/gbuild/LinkTarget.mk:126: recipe for
target
`/cygdrive/c/AOO_2013_06_08/trunk/main/solver/400/wntmsci12/workdir/CxxObject/tools/bootstrp/addexes2/mkfilt.o'


failed
make: ***
[/cygdrive/c/AOO_2013_06_08/trunk/main/solver/400/wntmsci12/workdir/CxxObject/tools/bootstrp/addexes2/mkfilt.o]


Error 2



I have already observed this build breaker.
I am working on corresponding fixes.
Unfortunately, the verification of the fixes takes some time as I am
building non-pro and pro with and without stlport.
Please stay tuned.



I have applied my patches - see issue 122500.
Please verify my fixes - thanks in advance.



I get a break in lingucomponent.

If I understand the log correct it is from:
libhunspell.lib(affixmgr.obj) : error LNK2019: unresolved external 
symbol "__declspec(dllimport) public: __thiscall 
std::basic_string,class 
std::allocator >::basic_stringstd::char_traits,class std::allocator >(class 
std::basic_string,class 
std::allocator > const &)" 
(__imp_??0?$basic_string@DU?$char_traits@D@std@@V?$allocator@D@2@@std@@QAE@ABV01@@Z) 
referenced in function "public: __thiscall 
std::logic_error::logic_error(class std::basic_stringstd::char_traits,class std::allocator > const &)" 
(??0logic_error@std@@QAE@ABV?$basic_string@DU?$char_traits@D@std@@V?$allocator@D@2@@1@@Z)
libhunspell.lib(affixmgr.obj) : error LNK2019: unresolved external 
symbol "__declspec(dllimport) public: __thiscall 
std::basic_string,class 
std::allocator >::~basic_stringstd::char_traits,class std::allocator >(void)" 
(__imp_??1?$basic_string@DU?$char_traits@D@std@@V?$allocator@D@2@@std@@QAE@XZ) 
referenced in function "public: virtual __thiscall 
std::logic_error::~logic_error(void)" (??1logic_error@std@@UAE@XZ)
libhunspell.lib(affixmgr.obj) : error LNK2019: unresolved external 
symbol "__declspec(dllimport) public: __thiscall 
std::basic_string,class 
std::allocator >::basic_stringstd::char_traits,class std::allocator >(char const *)" 
(__imp_??0?$basic_string@DU?$char_traits@D@std@@V?$allocator@D@2@@std@@QAE@PBD@Z) 
referenced in function "protected: static void __cdecl 
std::vector 
>::_Xlen(void)" 
(?_Xlen@?$vector@Uaffentry@@V?$allocator@Uaffentry@@@std@@@std@@KAXXZ)
../../../wntmsci12/bin/spell.uno.dll : fatal error LNK1120: 3 unresolved 
externals

dmake:  Error code 96, while making '../../../wntmsci12/bin/spell.uno.dll'

In addition I see an error, multiple times:
Error: String::ReleaseCharStr() called for String with RefCount From 
File c:/AOO_2013_06_08/trunk/main/tools/source/string/strimp.cxx at Line 
2074


I have used configure:
./configure \
 --with-directx-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft DirectX SDK 
(June 2010)" \
 --with-cl-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft Visual Studio 
9.0/VC" \

 --disable-build-mozilla \
 --disable-activex \
 --with-mozilla-build="/cygdrive/c/mozillabuild" \
 --enable-dbgutil \
 --with-asm-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft Visual Studio 
9.0/VC/bin" \

 --with-jdk-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Java/jdk1.6.0_38" \
 --with-ant-home=/ant \
 --with-mspdb-path="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft Visual Studio 
9.0/Common7/IDE" \

 --without-junit \

--with-dmake-url="http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2"; 
\

 --without-fonts \
 --with-atl-include-dir="/cygdrive/c/WinDDK/7600.16385.1/inc/atl71" \
 --with-atl-lib-dir="/cygdrive/c/WinDDK/7600.16385.1/lib/ATL/i386" \
 --with-mfc-include-dir="/cygdrive/c/WinDDK/7600.16385.1/inc/mfc42" \
 --with-mfc-lib-dir="/cygdrive/c/WinDDK/7600.16385.1/lib/Mfc/i386" \
 --with-lang="de" \
 --enable-category-b \
 --with-vendor="Regina_Henschel" \
 --with-build-version="r1492233_debug_category_b"

Kind regards
Regina




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Re: new logo on test website

[Kay Schenk]

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:

> Am 06/12/2013 06:53 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>
>  A quick mockup of the new logo with www.openoffice.org is available from:
>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/**test/ 
>>
>> As the new logo needs alignment etc., more coming soon. (and mockups for
>> the project site)
>>
>> I must say that I really like this and feels it brightens things up! :)
>>
>
> absolutely, looks fresh and new. Thanks for the test.
>
> Is the bigger white space around the logo intended - compared with the old
> one? If not, I would suggest to reduce it, so that the same space is used.
> Because currently everything below is wrapped a bit lower.
>
> Marcus
>

It needs to resized some -- I will play with this. I actually like the
larger size of the whole logo though compared to the old one. It seems to
give more space and visual appeal in some way. It needs to be cropped at
the top and left so it lines up better with the text. I'll see what I can
do.

@RGB on the older logo. Hmmm yes...maybe we should use a different
graphic for this item altogether. Right now we don't have an svg for just
the new orb. I think that may be in process.


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Re: Article on the Register

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:
> Am 06/12/2013 06:48 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>
>> On 12/06/2013 Andre Fischer wrote:
>>>
>>> Can we have both? Some longer living, semi-'official' news and a more
>>> frequently changing list of recent blog posts. I find both important
>>> and interesting. And having blog posts listed on the main page may be
>>> an incentive to more people writing new posts.
>>
>>
>> Adding "Blog" to the main navigation bar is surely helpful. For
>> something more similar to what Andre asked for, I've just committed a
>> test to
>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/test/index.html
>> (if it gets published, no problem, it will still be in the test area).
>>
>> There you can see a block with the titles of the latest posts, good to
>> show immediately what the blog topics are.
>
>
> That's right. One (maybe radical) idea comes into my mind:
>
> What if we stop the normal news (and the separate news webpage on
> ".../news/index.html") and post everything in the blog? And write some
> headline on the homepage?
>

I was thinking something similar.  Shouldn't all new stories go onto the blog?

And once we figure out how to update this live from the feed, I'd love
to split the right side into three areas, one for the most recent blog
posts, another for the most recent extensions and another for the most
recent templates.

So in a small space we can rotate headline from the blog, as well as
templates, extensions, etc.

-Rob

> We keep going to post news also on the homepage *and* get more blog posts.
>
> Another thing:
> Put the x recent headlines directly between nav bar and "I want to learn
> more ...". Yes, that would put everything a bit lower, but we would get rid
> of the right side and the entire page will be much more smaller. Better for
> mobile devices. And the news are always on top.
>

So a single column?

Another idea would be to introduce jQuery and implement one of the many sliders:

http://vandelaydesign.com/blog/tools/awesome-jquery-sliders/


>
>> Unless there are objections, I plan to port it to the "real" homepage
>> during the weekend.
>
>
> For me that would be fine.
>
> Marcus
>
>
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Re: Article on the Register

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 06/12/2013 06:48 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

On 12/06/2013 Andre Fischer wrote:

Can we have both? Some longer living, semi-'official' news and a more
frequently changing list of recent blog posts. I find both important
and interesting. And having blog posts listed on the main page may be
an incentive to more people writing new posts.


Adding "Blog" to the main navigation bar is surely helpful. For
something more similar to what Andre asked for, I've just committed a
test to
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/test/index.html
(if it gets published, no problem, it will still be in the test area).

There you can see a block with the titles of the latest posts, good to
show immediately what the blog topics are.


That's right. One (maybe radical) idea comes into my mind:

What if we stop the normal news (and the separate news webpage on 
".../news/index.html") and post everything in the blog? And write some 
headline on the homepage?


We keep going to post news also on the homepage *and* get more blog posts.

Another thing:
Put the x recent headlines directly between nav bar and "I want to learn 
more ...". Yes, that would put everything a bit lower, but we would get 
rid of the right side and the entire page will be much more smaller. 
Better for mobile devices. And the news are always on top.



Unless there are objections, I plan to port it to the "real" homepage
during the weekend.


For me that would be fine.

Marcus


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Re: Idea: Public beta program for AOO 4.1?

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 06/12/2013 08:50 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Donald Whytock  wrote:

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:


On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:35:23 -0400
Rob Weir  wrote:


Something to consider for AOO 4.1 is the value of a broad public beta
program to solicit early feedback on builds.  This could be a good
complement to our formal QA efforts.

A beta program could be set up like this:

1) After feature freeze, and after smoke tests pass on the 3 major
platforms, we have a build that has the new code, and doesn't have any
known horrible defects.

2) Immediately create a special Release Candidate for the beta,
English only, or maybe a combination install with 5 major languages.

3) Vote on the release of the beta via the normal 72-hour PMC vote.
Focus on the formal release checks around license, notice, etc.

4) Distribute via SourceForge and/or Apache mirrors.  No need to
preserve older betas.  We'd only keep the most recent one.

I just want to make sure that we're all aware this option is
available.  We can do something that gives wider public exposure than
a dev snapshot build, but is less than a final version.  The key thing
is to meet the formal requirements of an Apache release, but set user
expectations that it is a beta.

Regards,


A very major problem is that relatively inexperienced user _will_ download
and use a beta, disregarding any warnings about it being a beta.  They will
increase the support workload, as faults may be due to their inexperience,
not to shortcomings in the beta, and certainly the stress level for support
staff as they are hassled to try to obtain recovery of "the most important
file this load of  has ruined on me".

A lot of projects list multiple versions of their software with the most

"stable" at the top, and other versions provided below with multiple
caveats attached, such as, "This is the most bleeding edge version we've
got right now, download and try at your own risk...but please provide
feedback if you do."

As long as the first entry is described as the stable one, I'd like to
think users would get that one.  But I've heard I can be naive.



The concept and expectations of a beta release are well-understood in
the industry.  We may have some users who are unfamiliar with the
concept, but we should be able to find a way to make it clear to
everyone.

The important thing, I think, is to avoid giving prominence to the
beta in the default download page.  Maybe even have a special beta
page that has extra text setting stability and support expectations,
how to report problems, etc.


In the old project we had one download page for different release modes 
with respective colors:


a) green = Stable
b) yellow = Beta's / RC's
c) red= Dev Snapspots

AFAIK this worked good. However, b) and c) had not the 
one-click-downloader but were links to separate webpages with download 
links.


I found the following wording for Beta's/RC's and Dev Snapshots:



The software in the following table is based on the final release but 
the final tests were not done yet. Therefore it cannot be seen as a
released build and it is not recommended to deploy in a production 
environment. However, you are invited to use and test these builds. 
report (link to Bugzilla) any possible issues. This process is not yet 
finished. Please be patient and check back regularly.


Developer Snapshots represent the most recent status of the 
OpenOffice.org Development and will be released mostly weekly/biweekly.
Please help us to improve the product quality of OpenOffice.org. 
Download and test the latest versions."
These builds have not been fully tested and are under continuous 
development. It is not recommended for production use.




With some bold/italic/colors formatting it should be possible to make 
the message clear:


Please help us to test the latest and greatest release. However, please 
be careful how/when/where to use it on your PC.



Finally:
I like the idea to do a beta program. To bad it's too late for AOO 4. ;-)

Marcus


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Re: Idea: Public beta program for AOO 4.1?

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 20:50:12 +0200
RGB ES  wrote:

> 2013/6/12 Donald Whytock 
> 
> > On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:35:23 -0400
> > > Rob Weir  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Something to consider for AOO 4.1 is the value of a broad public beta
> > > > program to solicit early feedback on builds.  This could be a good
> > > > complement to our formal QA efforts.
> > > >
> > > > A beta program could be set up like this:
> > > >
> > > > 1) After feature freeze, and after smoke tests pass on the 3 major
> > > > platforms, we have a build that has the new code, and doesn't have any
> > > > known horrible defects.
> > > >
> > > > 2) Immediately create a special Release Candidate for the beta,
> > > > English only, or maybe a combination install with 5 major languages.
> > > >
> > > > 3) Vote on the release of the beta via the normal 72-hour PMC vote.
> > > > Focus on the formal release checks around license, notice, etc.
> > > >
> > > > 4) Distribute via SourceForge and/or Apache mirrors.  No need to
> > > > preserve older betas.  We'd only keep the most recent one.
> > > >
> > > > I just want to make sure that we're all aware this option is
> > > > available.  We can do something that gives wider public exposure than
> > > > a dev snapshot build, but is less than a final version.  The key thing
> > > > is to meet the formal requirements of an Apache release, but set user
> > > > expectations that it is a beta.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > >
> > > A very major problem is that relatively inexperienced user _will_
> > download
> > > and use a beta, disregarding any warnings about it being a beta.  They
> > will
> > > increase the support workload, as faults may be due to their
> > inexperience,
> > > not to shortcomings in the beta, and certainly the stress level for
> > support
> > > staff as they are hassled to try to obtain recovery of "the most
> > important
> > > file this load of  has ruined on me".
> > >
> > > A lot of projects list multiple versions of their software with the most
> > "stable" at the top, and other versions provided below with multiple
> > caveats attached, such as, "This is the most bleeding edge version we've
> > got right now, download and try at your own risk...but please provide
> > feedback if you do."
> >
> > As long as the first entry is described as the stable one, I'd like to
> > think users would get that one.  But I've heard I can be naive.
> >
> >
> I don't think that a lot of users will overlook a big and flashy warning
> (I've seen users afraid to download 3.4.x because it said "incubating"),
> but I'm pretty sure that those few that actually download a beta without
> worrying about what a beta is will be far more vocal than the others...
> 
> Just a thought: is it possible to force those beta releases to open on
> launch a one page document telling (better wording needed, of course...)
> "I'm a development version! Use me at your own risk! Download the latest
> stable release from here"?
> 
> BTW, I really like the idea of a public beta program. We just need to be
> very careful about how to promote it.
> 
> Regards
> Ricardo
> 
> 
> 
> > Don
> >

I think Ricardo's idea is a good one; I'm sure he sees, from his forum 
experience, as I do, the problems from and the risks to the inexperienced user 
of a beta.  Some form of double warning, as he suggests, would be good.  I 
acknowledge that experienced users do make a valuable contribution in beta 
testing.  I think what I'm really suggesting is that we need to protect 
inexperienced users from themselves.

-- 
Rory O'Farrell 

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Re: Idea: Public beta program for AOO 4.1?

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 12/06/2013 Rob Weir wrote:

Something to consider for AOO 4.1 is the value of a broad public beta
program to solicit early feedback on builds.  This could be a good
complement to our formal QA efforts.


I totally agree that we should do so. In retrospective, it would have 
been good to do it for 4.0 too: we've still received a lot of feedback 
from the community, but the "hidden" development builds don't help if 
people are just trying to get a glimpse of the coming features.



The key thing
is to meet the formal requirements of an Apache release, but set user
expectations that it is a beta.


This is key, but we have several ways to do it, not necessarily 
involving a huge disclaimer like the one you put on your e-mail!


For example, we could make the beta versions available in "archive" 
format only: just unzip it and test it, no installation. This will give 
additional guarantees that people won't overwrite their stable version 
and cannot mistake the beta for a full version. Of course, this doesn't 
test system integration, but it could be an acceptable trade-off.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: My Introduction

[Ivan Fuentes]

Hi lucca, it's my first time too, welcome it's an amazing experience full
of challenges and learning
El jun 11, 2013 6:42 PM, "Luca Suriano"  escribió:

> Hi everyone,
> I'm Luca Suriano and i'm from Italy. I study computer science and i want
> to contribute to this project :)
> This is my first time contributing to an open source project ;)
> I've downloaded the source and i'm about to build it (on mac). I've no
> experience with this kind of environment, so surerly i will send other
> messages.
> So this is my introduction and i hope to become a better developer with
> you :)
> Thanks.
>
> Luca Suriano.
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Re: new logo on test website

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 06/12/2013 06:53 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

A quick mockup of the new logo with www.openoffice.org is available from:

http://www.openoffice.org/test/

As the new logo needs alignment etc., more coming soon. (and mockups for
the project site)

I must say that I really like this and feels it brightens things up! :)


absolutely, looks fresh and new. Thanks for the test.

Is the bigger white space around the logo intended - compared with the 
old one? If not, I would suggest to reduce it, so that the same space is 
used. Because currently everything below is wrapped a bit lower.


Marcus


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Re: Orientation page - Writer

[Henry Tiquet Leyva]

So, I would like to know if I can program these styles and what part of
code I need to modify for do it.



2013/6/11 Alexandro Colorado 

> On 6/11/13, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 11.06.2013 11:24, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> >> On 6/11/13, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann  wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> On 11.06.2013 04:23, Henry Tiquet Leyva wrote:
>  Hello everyone,
>  I would like begin to modify the AOO code and I think to begin with
> the
>  page orientation (Writer).
>  The idea is to create a button on the toolbar for change the page
>  orientation with a click.
> 
>  I would like to know what code manipulates the orientation page in
>  Writer.
> 
> >>>
> >>> The new sidebar feature introduced a page property panel which is
> active
> >>> in Writer. In this page property panel you can easily change the page
> >>> orientation of the page style which is applied at the current cursor
> >>> position.
> >>>
> >>> Is this function the one you want to implement?
> >>> If yes, I propose not to duplicate this functionality in a toolbar. May
> >>> be you have further ideas how the user experience of this existing
> >>> function could be changed/improved.
> >>> If not, I would like to ask you to tell more about the function you
> want
> >>> to implement. Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >> I would need to see this feature in action, then I will understand it
> >> better as well as learn how they got around the previous explanation
> >> by RGB.
> >>
> >> Is the implementation from the current page up to the end of the
> >> document? or is it ONLY that current page.
> >>
> >
> > May be you have missed some of my words which are:
> > "In this page property panel you can easily change the page orientation
> > of the page style which is applied at the current cursor position."
>
> Ok but that has always be the way the regular page dialog is built I
> thought it was a NEW behavior.
>
> > As said, this function changes the page orientation of a page style.
> > Thus, all pages which have this page style applied will change its
> > orientation. This will also influence the text flow as the pages will in
> > general not contain the same content when the orientation is changed.
> >
> > Best regards, Oliver.
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Re: Idea: Public beta program for AOO 4.1?

[RGB ES]

2013/6/12 Donald Whytock 

> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:35:23 -0400
> > Rob Weir  wrote:
> >
> > > Something to consider for AOO 4.1 is the value of a broad public beta
> > > program to solicit early feedback on builds.  This could be a good
> > > complement to our formal QA efforts.
> > >
> > > A beta program could be set up like this:
> > >
> > > 1) After feature freeze, and after smoke tests pass on the 3 major
> > > platforms, we have a build that has the new code, and doesn't have any
> > > known horrible defects.
> > >
> > > 2) Immediately create a special Release Candidate for the beta,
> > > English only, or maybe a combination install with 5 major languages.
> > >
> > > 3) Vote on the release of the beta via the normal 72-hour PMC vote.
> > > Focus on the formal release checks around license, notice, etc.
> > >
> > > 4) Distribute via SourceForge and/or Apache mirrors.  No need to
> > > preserve older betas.  We'd only keep the most recent one.
> > >
> > > I just want to make sure that we're all aware this option is
> > > available.  We can do something that gives wider public exposure than
> > > a dev snapshot build, but is less than a final version.  The key thing
> > > is to meet the formal requirements of an Apache release, but set user
> > > expectations that it is a beta.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> >
> > A very major problem is that relatively inexperienced user _will_
> download
> > and use a beta, disregarding any warnings about it being a beta.  They
> will
> > increase the support workload, as faults may be due to their
> inexperience,
> > not to shortcomings in the beta, and certainly the stress level for
> support
> > staff as they are hassled to try to obtain recovery of "the most
> important
> > file this load of  has ruined on me".
> >
> > A lot of projects list multiple versions of their software with the most
> "stable" at the top, and other versions provided below with multiple
> caveats attached, such as, "This is the most bleeding edge version we've
> got right now, download and try at your own risk...but please provide
> feedback if you do."
>
> As long as the first entry is described as the stable one, I'd like to
> think users would get that one.  But I've heard I can be naive.
>
>
I don't think that a lot of users will overlook a big and flashy warning
(I've seen users afraid to download 3.4.x because it said "incubating"),
but I'm pretty sure that those few that actually download a beta without
worrying about what a beta is will be far more vocal than the others...

Just a thought: is it possible to force those beta releases to open on
launch a one page document telling (better wording needed, of course...)
"I'm a development version! Use me at your own risk! Download the latest
stable release from here"?

BTW, I really like the idea of a public beta program. We just need to be
very careful about how to promote it.

Regards
Ricardo



> Don
>

Re: Idea: Public beta program for AOO 4.1?

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Donald Whytock  wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:35:23 -0400
>> Rob Weir  wrote:
>>
>> > Something to consider for AOO 4.1 is the value of a broad public beta
>> > program to solicit early feedback on builds.  This could be a good
>> > complement to our formal QA efforts.
>> >
>> > A beta program could be set up like this:
>> >
>> > 1) After feature freeze, and after smoke tests pass on the 3 major
>> > platforms, we have a build that has the new code, and doesn't have any
>> > known horrible defects.
>> >
>> > 2) Immediately create a special Release Candidate for the beta,
>> > English only, or maybe a combination install with 5 major languages.
>> >
>> > 3) Vote on the release of the beta via the normal 72-hour PMC vote.
>> > Focus on the formal release checks around license, notice, etc.
>> >
>> > 4) Distribute via SourceForge and/or Apache mirrors.  No need to
>> > preserve older betas.  We'd only keep the most recent one.
>> >
>> > I just want to make sure that we're all aware this option is
>> > available.  We can do something that gives wider public exposure than
>> > a dev snapshot build, but is less than a final version.  The key thing
>> > is to meet the formal requirements of an Apache release, but set user
>> > expectations that it is a beta.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>>
>> A very major problem is that relatively inexperienced user _will_ download
>> and use a beta, disregarding any warnings about it being a beta.  They will
>> increase the support workload, as faults may be due to their inexperience,
>> not to shortcomings in the beta, and certainly the stress level for support
>> staff as they are hassled to try to obtain recovery of "the most important
>> file this load of  has ruined on me".
>>
>> A lot of projects list multiple versions of their software with the most
> "stable" at the top, and other versions provided below with multiple
> caveats attached, such as, "This is the most bleeding edge version we've
> got right now, download and try at your own risk...but please provide
> feedback if you do."
>
> As long as the first entry is described as the stable one, I'd like to
> think users would get that one.  But I've heard I can be naive.
>

The concept and expectations of a beta release are well-understood in
the industry.  We may have some users who are unfamiliar with the
concept, but we should be able to find a way to make it clear to
everyone.

The important thing, I think, is to avoid giving prominence to the
beta in the default download page.  Maybe even have a special beta
page that has extra text setting stability and support expectations,
how to report problems, etc.

-Rob


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Re: Idea: Public beta program for AOO 4.1?

[Donald Whytock]

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:35:23 -0400
> Rob Weir  wrote:
>
> > Something to consider for AOO 4.1 is the value of a broad public beta
> > program to solicit early feedback on builds.  This could be a good
> > complement to our formal QA efforts.
> >
> > A beta program could be set up like this:
> >
> > 1) After feature freeze, and after smoke tests pass on the 3 major
> > platforms, we have a build that has the new code, and doesn't have any
> > known horrible defects.
> >
> > 2) Immediately create a special Release Candidate for the beta,
> > English only, or maybe a combination install with 5 major languages.
> >
> > 3) Vote on the release of the beta via the normal 72-hour PMC vote.
> > Focus on the formal release checks around license, notice, etc.
> >
> > 4) Distribute via SourceForge and/or Apache mirrors.  No need to
> > preserve older betas.  We'd only keep the most recent one.
> >
> > I just want to make sure that we're all aware this option is
> > available.  We can do something that gives wider public exposure than
> > a dev snapshot build, but is less than a final version.  The key thing
> > is to meet the formal requirements of an Apache release, but set user
> > expectations that it is a beta.
> >
> > Regards,
>
> A very major problem is that relatively inexperienced user _will_ download
> and use a beta, disregarding any warnings about it being a beta.  They will
> increase the support workload, as faults may be due to their inexperience,
> not to shortcomings in the beta, and certainly the stress level for support
> staff as they are hassled to try to obtain recovery of "the most important
> file this load of  has ruined on me".
>
> A lot of projects list multiple versions of their software with the most
"stable" at the top, and other versions provided below with multiple
caveats attached, such as, "This is the most bleeding edge version we've
got right now, download and try at your own risk...but please provide
feedback if you do."

As long as the first entry is described as the stable one, I'd like to
think users would get that one.  But I've heard I can be naive.

Don

Re: Idea: Public beta program for AOO 4.1?

[Raphael Bircher]

Hi Rory

Am 12.06.13 20:22, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:35:23 -0400
Rob Weir  wrote:


Something to consider for AOO 4.1 is the value of a broad public beta
program to solicit early feedback on builds.  This could be a good
complement to our formal QA efforts.

A beta program could be set up like this:

1) After feature freeze, and after smoke tests pass on the 3 major
platforms, we have a build that has the new code, and doesn't have any
known horrible defects.

2) Immediately create a special Release Candidate for the beta,
English only, or maybe a combination install with 5 major languages.

3) Vote on the release of the beta via the normal 72-hour PMC vote.
Focus on the formal release checks around license, notice, etc.

4) Distribute via SourceForge and/or Apache mirrors.  No need to
preserve older betas.  We'd only keep the most recent one.

I just want to make sure that we're all aware this option is
available.  We can do something that gives wider public exposure than
a dev snapshot build, but is less than a final version.  The key thing
is to meet the formal requirements of an Apache release, but set user
expectations that it is a beta.

Regards,

A very major problem is that relatively inexperienced user _will_ download and use a 
beta, disregarding any warnings about it being a beta.  They will increase the support 
workload, as faults may be due to their inexperience, not to shortcomings in the beta, 
and certainly the stress level for support staff as they are hassled to try to obtain 
recovery of "the most important file this load of  has ruined on me".

Do you have had the same problem with the old Developer Snapshots from 
the old OpenOffice.org Project? They was also distributed over mirrors, 
and was linked at the download page. You have to put a big warning on 
the top yes. Remember, there are also a load of experianced users who 
start to test with the beta, including companies. They provide a 
important feedback for us.


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Re: Idea: Public beta program for AOO 4.1?

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:35:23 -0400
Rob Weir  wrote:

> Something to consider for AOO 4.1 is the value of a broad public beta
> program to solicit early feedback on builds.  This could be a good
> complement to our formal QA efforts.
> 
> A beta program could be set up like this:
> 
> 1) After feature freeze, and after smoke tests pass on the 3 major
> platforms, we have a build that has the new code, and doesn't have any
> known horrible defects.
> 
> 2) Immediately create a special Release Candidate for the beta,
> English only, or maybe a combination install with 5 major languages.
> 
> 3) Vote on the release of the beta via the normal 72-hour PMC vote.
> Focus on the formal release checks around license, notice, etc.
> 
> 4) Distribute via SourceForge and/or Apache mirrors.  No need to
> preserve older betas.  We'd only keep the most recent one.
> 
> I just want to make sure that we're all aware this option is
> available.  We can do something that gives wider public exposure than
> a dev snapshot build, but is less than a final version.  The key thing
> is to meet the formal requirements of an Apache release, but set user
> expectations that it is a beta.
> 
> Regards,

A very major problem is that relatively inexperienced user _will_ download and 
use a beta, disregarding any warnings about it being a beta.  They will 
increase the support workload, as faults may be due to their inexperience, not 
to shortcomings in the beta, and certainly the stress level for support staff 
as they are hassled to try to obtain recovery of "the most important file this 
load of  has ruined on me". 

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Idea: Public beta program for AOO 4.1?

[Rob Weir]

Something to consider for AOO 4.1 is the value of a broad public beta
program to solicit early feedback on builds.  This could be a good
complement to our formal QA efforts.

A beta program could be set up like this:

1) After feature freeze, and after smoke tests pass on the 3 major
platforms, we have a build that has the new code, and doesn't have any
known horrible defects.

2) Immediately create a special Release Candidate for the beta,
English only, or maybe a combination install with 5 major languages.

3) Vote on the release of the beta via the normal 72-hour PMC vote.
Focus on the formal release checks around license, notice, etc.

4) Distribute via SourceForge and/or Apache mirrors.  No need to
preserve older betas.  We'd only keep the most recent one.

I just want to make sure that we're all aware this option is
available.  We can do something that gives wider public exposure than
a dev snapshot build, but is less than a final version.  The key thing
is to meet the formal requirements of an Apache release, but set user
expectations that it is a beta.

Regards,

-Rob

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Re: new logo on test website

[RGB ES]

2013/6/12 Kay Schenk 

> A quick mockup of the new logo with www.openoffice.org is available from:
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/test/


Good!


>
>
> As the new logo needs alignment etc., more coming soon. (and mockups for
> the project site)
>

The "I want to learn more about OpenOffice" have the old orb, maybe this
needs to be updated too? But on the other hand, the flat orb will look a
bit out of place compared with the other, glossy icons.

Regards
Ricardo



>
> I must say that I really like this and feels it brightens things up! :)
>
>
> --
>
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>
> "Normal is not something to aspire to, it is something to get away from."
>
> -- Jodie Foster
>

new logo on test website

[Kay Schenk]

A quick mockup of the new logo with www.openoffice.org is available from:

http://www.openoffice.org/test/

As the new logo needs alignment etc., more coming soon. (and mockups for
the project site)

I must say that I really like this and feels it brightens things up! :)


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Re: Article on the Register

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 12/06/2013 Andre Fischer wrote:

Can we have both?  Some longer living, semi-'official' news and a more
frequently changing list of recent blog posts.  I find both important
and interesting.  And having blog posts listed on the main page may be
an incentive to more people writing new posts.


Adding "Blog" to the main navigation bar is surely helpful. For 
something more similar to what Andre asked for, I've just committed a 
test to

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/test/index.html
(if it gets published, no problem, it will still be in the test area).

There you can see a block with the titles of the latest posts, good to 
show immediately what the blog topics are.


Unless there are objections, I plan to port it to the "real" homepage 
during the weekend.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Preview of Colors/Gradient etc dosn't work correctly

[Max Merbald]

Hi all,

I just tried out (built downloaded yesterday) and it seem's to work 
correctly.


Max


Am 12.06.2013 18:04, schrieb Raphael Bircher:

Hi Armin

Am 12.06.13 17:18, schrieb Armin Le Grand:

Hi Raphael,

On 12.06.2013 16:38, Raphael Bircher wrote:

Hi at all

Mac OS X 10.7
AOO 4.0 latest DEV Snapshot

1) Go to Format -> Page -> Background
2) Select Gradient

The preview in the little squeres dosn't work corectly. This is a 
regression, can sameone confirm that?


Should have been #122418#, fixed. Do you have this already?
It's good to hear, that sameone else found this bug befor me. And it's 
good to see that this bug is fixed. It was a bit my error, that I 
didn't find this issue in bugzilla. I was searching for Gradient and 
not for Color.


Greetings Raphael


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Re: service ResultSet

[Rajath Shashidhara]

Hello,

When I install the new .oxt created by me, I get an error:
apache.ooffice.gsoc.cmisucp.ucp.CentralRegistrationClass;org.apache.aoo.ucp.cmisucp.ucp,CentralRegistrationClass.

These are my previous package names and new package name.

I have uninstalled the previous extension.
It was working previously.

Please help.
I rebuilt openoffice and tried again. It didnt work.


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Rajath Shashidhara <
rajaths.raja...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> service resultSet implements XResultSetUpdate.
>
> I don't understand the purpose of "void insertRow()" and "void
> deleteRow()".
>
> Will calling deleteRow() delete the child object itself?(Actually I dont
> think it should be like that. I'm just verifying).
>
> I'm not understanding when to update the properties of a row? Should I
> create event listeners for each value in XRow or update the row only when
> some function is called?
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Rajath Shashidhara <
> rajaths.raja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes. I have done that. :)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Jürgen Schmidt 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/12/13 9:04 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
>>> > Hello Juergen,
>>> >
>>> > I have already implemented my own XRow. I'm implementing the result set
>>> > service by defining a List with each XRow containing the
>>> information
>>> > of a child object in case of a folder.
>>>
>>> good, keep in mind to return only the properties that the cmd ask for
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>>> jogischm...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> On 6/12/13 8:45 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
>>> >>> Hello Juergen,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I'm following this:
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/ucb/Content.html
>>> >>>  .
>>> >>> Is there any other revised source that I have to follow?
>>> >>
>>> >> ok, I see what you mean. You have to implement simply a UNO object
>>> >> implementing the XRow interface. And yes the docu say it is similar
>>> to a
>>> >> ResultSet.
>>> >>
>>> >> But is much easier than you expect, I have done this before and have
>>> to
>>> >> find the code ... will take some time, probably I can send you an
>>> >> example in the evening.
>>> >>
>>> >> Or you can implement an object supporting the XRow interface on your
>>> >> your own.
>>> >>
>>> >> See also the DevGuide
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/UCB/Obtaining_Content_Properties
>>> >>
>>> >> And please don't ask me why it was designed this way ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >> Juergen
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Rajath Shashidhara <
>>> >>> rajaths.raja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>>  Hello Juergen,
>>> 
>>>  But the return datatype of Open Command is a dynamic result set.
>>> So, a
>>>  result set service must be implemented right?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>>> jogischm...@gmail.com
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > On 6/12/13 6:55 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
>>> >> Hello,
>>> >> Just a small doubt.
>>> >> I was looking at the methods to be implemented in ResultSet.
>>> >> m_RowCount stores the current row being accessed.
>>> >> I have a doubt in the following methods.
>>> >> Methods:
>>> >> next(),previous(),beforeFirst(),afterLast() .
>>> >>
>>> >> Initially when the resultset is constructed, m_RowCount will be
>>> zero
>>> >> according to the api reference.
>>> >> If there are 'X' Rows.
>>> >> So, m_RowCount can take 0,1,..,X,X+1 values only or can it
>>> take
>>> >> any
>>> >> value?
>>> >>
>>> >> Because even X+2 is afterLast() and -1 is beforeFirst().
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > I would not use ResultSet in this context, it was mainly designed
>>> and
>>> > used in the context of databases.
>>> >
>>> > Internally you can use whatever you want and the return via the
>>> API is
>>> > just a property sequence. Use whatever you want and ensure that it
>>> can
>>> > be fast converted in a sequence (in Java array) of properties.
>>> >
>>> > 2 open commands have to update the values anyway because in the
>>> time
>>> > between both commands the values could have changed anyway, e.g. a
>>> file
>>> > got written/updated from somewhere else.
>>> >
>>> > Juergen
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> >
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  --
>>>  Rajath S,
>>>  M.Sc(Hons.) Physics,
>>>  Birla Institute of Technology and Science - Pilani,
>>>  Pilani
>>> 
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --

Re: Preview of Colors/Gradient etc dosn't work correctly

[Raphael Bircher]

Hi Armin

Am 12.06.13 17:18, schrieb Armin Le Grand:

Hi Raphael,

On 12.06.2013 16:38, Raphael Bircher wrote:

Hi at all

Mac OS X 10.7
AOO 4.0 latest DEV Snapshot

1) Go to Format -> Page -> Background
2) Select Gradient

The preview in the little squeres dosn't work corectly. This is a 
regression, can sameone confirm that?


Should have been #122418#, fixed. Do you have this already?
It's good to hear, that sameone else found this bug befor me. And it's 
good to see that this bug is fixed. It was a bit my error, that I didn't 
find this issue in bugzilla. I was searching for Gradient and not for Color.


Greetings Raphael


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Problem with openoffice4

[Rajath Shashidhara]

Hello,

I'm trying to install an extension manager on Openoffice4.
When I click "Add" on the extension manager dialog, ooffice exits by
throwing an instance of
'com::sun::star::lang::WrappedTargetRuntimeException'.

It was working till today. It stopped working unexpectedly. I cant report
any triggering action which started this error.

Please help.

-- 
Rajath S,
M.Sc(Hons.) Physics,
Birla Institute of Technology and Science - Pilani,
Pilani

Re: Preview of Colors/Gradient etc dosn't work correctly

[Armin Le Grand]

Hi Raphael,

On 12.06.2013 16:38, Raphael Bircher wrote:

Hi at all

Mac OS X 10.7
AOO 4.0 latest DEV Snapshot

1) Go to Format -> Page -> Background
2) Select Gradient

The preview in the little squeres dosn't work corectly. This is a 
regression, can sameone confirm that?


Should have been #122418#, fixed. Do you have this already?



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Re: non-pro build of r1491954 on Windows breaks in sal

[Oliver-Rainer Wittmann]

Hi,

On 12.06.2013 09:43, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

On 12.06.2013 00:15, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Oliver,

I have applied your patch. "sal" finished, but now it breaks in 'tools'

C:/AOO_2013_06_08/trunk/main/solver/400/wntmsci12/inc/stl\config/stl_select_lib.h(26)

: fatal error C1189: #error :  "For static link with STLport library,
_DEBUG setting MUST be on when _STLP_DEBUG is on. (/MTd forces _DEBUG)"
C:/AOO_2013_06_08/trunk/main/solenv/gbuild/LinkTarget.mk:126: recipe for
target
`/cygdrive/c/AOO_2013_06_08/trunk/main/solver/400/wntmsci12/workdir/CxxObject/tools/bootstrp/addexes2/mkfilt.o'

failed
make: ***
[/cygdrive/c/AOO_2013_06_08/trunk/main/solver/400/wntmsci12/workdir/CxxObject/tools/bootstrp/addexes2/mkfilt.o]

Error 2



I have already observed this build breaker.
I am working on corresponding fixes.
Unfortunately, the verification of the fixes takes some time as I am
building non-pro and pro with and without stlport.
Please stay tuned.



I have applied my patches - see issue 122500.
Please verify my fixes - thanks in advance.


Best regards, Oliver.

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Re: [RELEASE]: translation reminder

[Tsutomu Uchino]

Hi,

2013/6/10, Jürgen Schmidt :
> Hi,
>
> I just want to remind you about the upcoming release and the translation
> update that should be done until June 18th (latest).
>
> We have several languages that are close to be finished at least for the
> UI translation.
>

> Japanese -> 5122 words needs review/translation
I attached translated po files to issue 122474[1].
Could someone reflect them to the pootle? Thanks.

[1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122474

Regards
- Tsutomu
>
>
> some more work necessary for
> Thai -> 22965 words needs review/translation
> and even more for
> Persian -> 55680
>
> But the review of the moved stuff can be done quite quickly if there was
> already a translation in place.
>
> I would be happy to release as many languages as possible.
>
> If you know other people who might be interested to help or if you have
> connections to schools, universities where native languages are key or
> where native language support is important, feel free to invite them to
> participate. The more people help and review the translations the better
> the result will be.
>
> Juergen
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Preview of Colors/Gradient etc dosn't work correctly

[Raphael Bircher]

Hi at all

Mac OS X 10.7
AOO 4.0 latest DEV Snapshot

1) Go to Format -> Page -> Background
2) Select Gradient

The preview in the little squeres dosn't work corectly. This is a 
regression, can sameone confirm that?


Greetings Raphael

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Re: Article on the Register

[Fernando Cassia]

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
> We don't, but I do track a list of the most-common misconceptions that I read

By pure chance I read this quote today, which I think fits perfectly
(I hope it's historically correct)

"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to
get its pants on."
- Winston Churchill

FC
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Re: service ResultSet

[Rajath Shashidhara]

Hello,

service resultSet implements XResultSetUpdate.

I don't understand the purpose of "void insertRow()" and "void deleteRow()".

Will calling deleteRow() delete the child object itself?(Actually I dont
think it should be like that. I'm just verifying).

I'm not understanding when to update the properties of a row? Should I
create event listeners for each value in XRow or update the row only when
some function is called?




On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Rajath Shashidhara <
rajaths.raja...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes. I have done that. :)
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>
>> On 6/12/13 9:04 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
>> > Hello Juergen,
>> >
>> > I have already implemented my own XRow. I'm implementing the result set
>> > service by defining a List with each XRow containing the
>> information
>> > of a child object in case of a folder.
>>
>> good, keep in mind to return only the properties that the cmd ask for
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Jürgen Schmidt > >wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 6/12/13 8:45 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
>> >>> Hello Juergen,
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm following this:
>> >>>
>> >>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/ucb/Content.html
>> >>>  .
>> >>> Is there any other revised source that I have to follow?
>> >>
>> >> ok, I see what you mean. You have to implement simply a UNO object
>> >> implementing the XRow interface. And yes the docu say it is similar to
>> a
>> >> ResultSet.
>> >>
>> >> But is much easier than you expect, I have done this before and have to
>> >> find the code ... will take some time, probably I can send you an
>> >> example in the evening.
>> >>
>> >> Or you can implement an object supporting the XRow interface on your
>> >> your own.
>> >>
>> >> See also the DevGuide
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/UCB/Obtaining_Content_Properties
>> >>
>> >> And please don't ask me why it was designed this way ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Juergen
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Rajath Shashidhara <
>> >>> rajaths.raja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>>  Hello Juergen,
>> 
>>  But the return datatype of Open Command is a dynamic result set. So,
>> a
>>  result set service must be implemented right?
>> 
>> 
>>  On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>> jogischm...@gmail.com
>> >>> wrote:
>> 
>> > On 6/12/13 6:55 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >> Just a small doubt.
>> >> I was looking at the methods to be implemented in ResultSet.
>> >> m_RowCount stores the current row being accessed.
>> >> I have a doubt in the following methods.
>> >> Methods:
>> >> next(),previous(),beforeFirst(),afterLast() .
>> >>
>> >> Initially when the resultset is constructed, m_RowCount will be
>> zero
>> >> according to the api reference.
>> >> If there are 'X' Rows.
>> >> So, m_RowCount can take 0,1,..,X,X+1 values only or can it take
>> >> any
>> >> value?
>> >>
>> >> Because even X+2 is afterLast() and -1 is beforeFirst().
>> >>
>> >
>> > I would not use ResultSet in this context, it was mainly designed
>> and
>> > used in the context of databases.
>> >
>> > Internally you can use whatever you want and the return via the API
>> is
>> > just a property sequence. Use whatever you want and ensure that it
>> can
>> > be fast converted in a sequence (in Java array) of properties.
>> >
>> > 2 open commands have to update the values anyway because in the time
>> > between both commands the values could have changed anyway, e.g. a
>> file
>> > got written/updated from somewhere else.
>> >
>> > Juergen
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> 
>> 
>>  --
>>  Rajath S,
>>  M.Sc(Hons.) Physics,
>>  Birla Institute of Technology and Science - Pilani,
>>  Pilani
>> 
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Re: Article on the Register

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 3:07 AM, Andre Fischer  wrote:
> On 11.06.2013 17:45, Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Fernando Cassia 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Andre Fischer  wrote:
>>>
 I just read this article [1] on the Register: "Apache devs: 'We'll ship
 no
 OpenOffice before its time'"

 It is sad that it has the usual misinformation:

>>> You should find the email of the publication's news editor and write a
>>> polite yet firm complaint, saying in fewer words what you said here, put
>>> the writer in cc:, then lay back and enjoy the fireworks. It also helps
>>> if
>>> you put such letter on-line and reference it in your e-mail.
>>>
>>> Just an idea.. ;-)
>>>
>> I think just ignore it.  Why help promote El Reg?
>
>
> Hm, I like the Register. I like their style and usually their articles seem
> to be better researched, at least two years ago, when I read them more
> regularly.  But more importantly, this is just one of several such articles
> in the last months.  That makes me wonder if we should not be more active in
> making (of what we thing are) the facts better known.
>
> Do we already have an anti-FUD page in the Wiki that we can easily reference
> in comments to such articles?
>

We don't, but I do track a list of the most-common misconceptions that I read:

Misconception about Apache OpenOffice

1. Contributing to Apache requires that you assign copyright
(ownership) of your code to Apache.

2. Contributing to Apache requires that you sign the ICLA.

3. The Apache License permits "big corporation" to "lock up" your code
and prevent others from using it.

4. The "OpenOffice.org community" all went to LibreOffice.

5. Ohloh metrics give a fair and accurate comparison between Apache
OpenOffice and LibreOffice

6. Only IBM is working on Apache OpenOffice

7. License forces contributions to occur in a particular way, i.e.
"license is destiny".

8. Oracle controls OpenOffice (believe it or not, this still comes up)

9. LibreOffice is more widely used than AOO

10. Because OpenOffice is not having weekly low-quality releases it
must not be doing anything at all

-Rob

> -Andre
>
>
>>
>> Look at the numbers:
>>
>> www.openoffice.org: Alexa Traffic Rank #3715:
>> http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/openoffice.org
>>
>> theregister.co.uk: Alexa Traffic Rank  #4251:
>> http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/theregister.co.uk
>>
>> In other words, our website gets more traffic than their news site does.
>>
>> And libreoffice.org is ranked #8163:
>> http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/libreoffice.org
>>
>> So the best strategy is to ignore the the FUD and push accurate and
>> useful information onto our website.  That approach reaches more
>> users, and is under our control.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>>> FC
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a
>>> revolutionary
>>> act
>>> Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un
>>> Acto
>>> Revolucionario
>>> - George Orwell
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Re: Article on the Register

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>
> On Jun 11, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>>>
 On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Kay Schenk 
 wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
>>
>>> RGB ES wrote:
>>>
 2013/6/11 Rob Weir

> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Andre Fischer wrote:
>>
>>> It is sad that it has the usual misinformation:
>>>
>>
>>> I was quite surprised to read it. At least, if a journalist had to
 pick a
>>> recent blog post from the OpenOffice blog, the one about release
 schedules
>>> is definitely less interesting than other recent ones...
>>>
>>>
>>> You should find the email of the publication's news editor and write a
>> polite yet firm complaint
>>
>
>>> Or just post a comment. Andre, did you try doing so? Maybe they will
>>> rectify some clear factual errors in the article. I strongly recommend
 that
>>> you post your comments there and not only here on the list.
>>>
>>>
>>> So the best strategy is to ignore the the FUD and push accurate and
> useful information onto our website.  That approach reaches more
> users, and is under our control.
>
 +1. Talking about sites like El Reg means promoting them, and
 promotion
 means more weight on search engines for those lies

>>>
>> +1, yes, it's untrue and insulting but our actions DO speak louder than
>> these words.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Note that the highly visible site is http://www.openoffice.org and not
>>> the blog; the site is linked to the blog only through a link that is
 at the
>>> bottom of the page and, moreover, is hidden under a JavaScript layer.
>>>
>>> So something that we should do immediately is to create a simple block
>>> with the titles of our latest three blog posts (from the official
 blog) and
>>> put it on the homepage. And keep it updated manually, at least when
 it's
>>> worth doing so.
>>>
>>
>> A good idea! I too feel the blogs are a bit too submerged. Let's see
 what
>> we can come up with for this.
>>
>
> How about adding it to the top-nav, where we currently have:
>
> Product
> Download
> Support
> Extend
> Develop
> Focus Areas
> Native Language
>
> Put a new entry there for "News" or "Blog" and have that link to the
 blog.
>

 I went ahead and did this.  Easily reversible if we don't like it.

 http://www.openoffice.org/

 -Rob

>>>
>>> Well...I would have preferred calling it something else besides "News"
>>> because now I think it's confused/associated with the left "News" items.
>>>
>>
>> Oh, good point.
>>
>>> When Andrea brought this up, I guess I was thinking he wanted actual Blog
>>> headlines listed/highlighted, but maybe the top nav bar is good if we come
>>> up with something a bit more "catchy".  But...I got nothin. :/
>>>
>>
>> The problem we have (and maybe this is not a problem but just a
>> different form of success) is that the blog is now updated quite
>> frequently, but the stories on the home page never seem to change.  So
>> if you want news then the best place to go is the blog.
>>
>> I wonder what would happen if we moved to a single column design with
>> no stories on the right, but just the current menu items, but centered
>> on the screen?  That might work better on small devices as well.
>
> Small boxes push the new div below the buttons div.
>>
>> Or, figure out how to get the news column to trigger off of the RSS
>> feed of the blog, like the ASF homepage does.  We discussed this once,
>> but never completely figured it out.
>
> The way to figure this out is to study how www.apache.org does this and 
> emulate it. We then setup the main page to republish itself every hour. We 
> need Infra's help for that.
>
>>
>> But short term, calling it "Blog" would be OK?
>
> Yes - and I would not have it be the leftmost topnav element. I would make it 
> third or fourth - on either side of "Support".
>

Done.

> Regards,
> Dave
>
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>>

> Putting it in the nav will give it visibility on most website (non-wiki)
 pages.
>
> -Rob
>
>
>>>
>>> That will give more visibility to the blog articles, for both users and
>>> journalists. Both categories are important. And some journalists will
>>> hopefully share my (personal, but probably not so personal) taste on
 which
>>> are the posts to be featured!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>  Andrea.
>>>
>>>
>>>
 --

Re: Article on the Register

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
>>
>> I think just ignore it.  Why help promote El Reg?
>>
>> Look at the numbers:
>
>
>
> You're right that devs shouldn't lose any sleep over what a news site says.
>
> However as someone who has been on the other side of the counter and knows
> how the relationship between a news editor and a writer works, let me tell
> you that letters to the editor are NOT ignored, and a news Ed hates when
> people tell him one of his writers has done a poor job.
>
> Case in point: a story about JVM languagues at another publication had
> completely the now open source and formerly IBM's JVM language NetRexx.
> They wrote to the publication until the site gave one of them the chance to
> gave "their side of the story", and a news story about the  Netrexx
> rebirth was published.
>
> Ok, that wasnt ElReg, but still, sometimes complaining works, specially if
> a reader puts into question the publication's fairness and tells the News
> Ed one of his employees doesnt know what he is talking (or writing) about.
>
> I fail to see how sending a complaint e-mail **as a reader** helps
> "promote" any given site, specially if the complaints are written
> individually and not speaking on behalf of a group or organization.
>

Good points.  I have no objections if someone wants to try.

-Rob


> Just my $0.02
> FC
>
> --
> During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary
> act
> - George Orwell

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Re: [RELEASE]:_ new snapshot build based on trunk rev 1491858

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 6/11/13 6:15 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to propose a new snapshot build based on trunk rev 1491858,
> revision 1491860 on the SNAPSHOT
> 
> I will include the following languages en-GB en-US es nl sk ru
> 
> The next languages are probably pt-BR ko fr
> 
> Juergen
> 

There will be a delay because I am currently not able to build a lang
version. I am working on it...

Juergen

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Re: Article on the Register

[Fernando Cassia]

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:

> completely the now open


Sorry the above line should be "completely IGNORED Netrexx"

FC

-- 
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary
act
- George Orwell

Re: Article on the Register

[Fernando Cassia]

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:

>
> I think just ignore it.  Why help promote El Reg?
>
> Look at the numbers:



You're right that devs shouldn't lose any sleep over what a news site says.

However as someone who has been on the other side of the counter and knows
how the relationship between a news editor and a writer works, let me tell
you that letters to the editor are NOT ignored, and a news Ed hates when
people tell him one of his writers has done a poor job.

Case in point: a story about JVM languagues at another publication had
completely the now open source and formerly IBM's JVM language NetRexx.
They wrote to the publication until the site gave one of them the chance to
gave "their side of the story", and a news story about the  Netrexx
rebirth was published.

Ok, that wasnt ElReg, but still, sometimes complaining works, specially if
a reader puts into question the publication's fairness and tells the News
Ed one of his employees doesnt know what he is talking (or writing) about.

I fail to see how sending a complaint e-mail **as a reader** helps
"promote" any given site, specially if the complaints are written
individually and not speaking on behalf of a group or organization.

Just my $0.02
FC

-- 
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary
act
- George Orwell

Re: Sidebar for Developers

[Andre Fischer]

On 12.06.2013 10:24, Jörg Schmidt wrote:

From: Andre Fischer [mailto:awf@gmail.com]
Sounds good.  I have heard of a UI editor (written in Basic?) that
produces XML resource files that can be used in extensions.
Maybe you
can tell me how this works.  And/or design a little dialog
that can be
used in a second demo extension for the sidebar.  I would
then provide
the Java part of that extension.

I do not know which editor you mean.

But, with XML resource files, you mean something like:



http://openoffice.org/2000/dialog";
xmlns:script="http://openoffice.org/2000/script"; dlg:id="Dialog3a" 
dlg:left="157"
dlg:top="86" dlg:width="121" dlg:height="43" dlg:closeable="true"
dlg:moveable="true" dlg:title="Hilfe/Lizenz">
  
   
  
  
   

   
   

   
  



Yes, exactly.  If you have an idea for a demo panel and can design the 
dialog then I can wrap a Java extension around it.


-Andre




Greetings,
Jörg


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Re: Draw, make some changes to gradients

[Armin Le Grand]

Hi bugreporter99,

On 11.06.2013 17:50, bugreporte...@hushmail.com wrote:

Hi,


Ah, I see. Just curious; how did you find out, it's not really
advertized that they use our code...?

...

Did you read
(https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/good_news_libreoffice_is_integrating),
btw...?

I think that's the same page the person posted to the forum I got the
information from (actually did not read the article).
IIRC I heard it from here:
http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/293#comment-22501
(comment #26)


Ah okay. They should at least tell people that it's not useful to write 
tasks for LO for an AOO-feature. I will not even see them there, I am 
not working at/for/on LO.




  >...(problem is the non-linear (irregular) form of the Ellipsoid and

Rectangular ones, another problem is that you can select the number

of

steps in AOO, say just eight and get useful nice effects.)

  What do you mean by "non-linear (irregular) form of the Ellipsoid and
Rectangular" ?
is "on-linear (irregular) form of the Ellipsoid " an ellipse with some
bumps???


In Ellipsoid and Rectangular (play with it) the center of the gradient 
gets to a line. There is no linear transformation to map this to SVG 
gradients. Anyways there is no mapping to Rectangluar at all.





...you can select the number of steps in AOO

Which steps do you mean?
gradient steps??


Yes. In the fill attributes you can set the step cout to e.g. 
user-defined 3 steps. This is useful in arious cases, but will also not 
map to SVG where this is not possible.




regards.

On 10.06.2013 at 10:36 AM, "Armin Le Grand"  wrote:Hi bugreporter99,



[deletd some older stuff here]
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Re: Sidebar for Developers

[Jörg Schmidt]

> From: Andre Fischer [mailto:awf@gmail.com] 

> Sounds good.  I have heard of a UI editor (written in Basic?) that 
> produces XML resource files that can be used in extensions.  
> Maybe you 
> can tell me how this works.  And/or design a little dialog 
> that can be 
> used in a second demo extension for the sidebar.  I would 
> then provide 
> the Java part of that extension.

I do not know which editor you mean.

But, with XML resource files, you mean something like:



http://openoffice.org/2000/dialog";
xmlns:script="http://openoffice.org/2000/script"; dlg:id="Dialog3a" 
dlg:left="157"
dlg:top="86" dlg:width="121" dlg:height="43" dlg:closeable="true"
dlg:moveable="true" dlg:title="Hilfe/Lizenz">
 
  
 
 
  
   
  
  
   
  
 




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Jörg


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Re: non-pro build of r1491954 on Windows breaks in sal

[Oliver-Rainer Wittmann]

Hi,

On 12.06.2013 00:15, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Oliver,

I have applied your patch. "sal" finished, but now it breaks in 'tools'

C:/AOO_2013_06_08/trunk/main/solver/400/wntmsci12/inc/stl\config/stl_select_lib.h(26)
: fatal error C1189: #error :  "For static link with STLport library,
_DEBUG setting MUST be on when _STLP_DEBUG is on. (/MTd forces _DEBUG)"
C:/AOO_2013_06_08/trunk/main/solenv/gbuild/LinkTarget.mk:126: recipe for
target
`/cygdrive/c/AOO_2013_06_08/trunk/main/solver/400/wntmsci12/workdir/CxxObject/tools/bootstrp/addexes2/mkfilt.o'
failed
make: ***
[/cygdrive/c/AOO_2013_06_08/trunk/main/solver/400/wntmsci12/workdir/CxxObject/tools/bootstrp/addexes2/mkfilt.o]
Error 2



I have already observed this build breaker.
I am working on corresponding fixes.
Unfortunately, the verification of the fixes takes some time as I am 
building non-pro and pro with and without stlport.

Please stay tuned.

Best regards, Oliver.




Oliver-Rainer Wittmann schrieb:

Hi,

On 10.06.2013 13:06, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Oliver,

Oliver-Rainer Wittmann schrieb:

Hi,

On 09.06.2013 16:27, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi,

I know there is https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122500 "
Impossible to build with Visual C++ 2008 Express Edition" but I'm no
sure, whether my problem is the same.

I use VC 2008 Express SP1. I get the error:

Compiling: sal/systools/win32/kill/creating pr/src/io/Makefile
kill.cxx
Compiling:
sal/rtl/source/C:/AOO_2013_06_08/trunk/main/solver/400/wntmsci12/inc/stl\config/stl_select_lib.h(26)




: fatal error C1189: #error :  "For static link with STLport library,
_DEBUG setting MUST be on when _STLP_DEBUG is on. (/MTd forces
_DEBUG)"
dmake:  Error code 2, while making '../../../wntmsci12/obj/kill.obj'

I have neither --without-stlport nor --with-stlport in my configure.



Try the attached patch.


I'll try it.

In the meantime I had tried --without-stlport. But first try was hanging
totally and in second try I run into the break in extension..ole, that
Ariel has mentioned in the issue.



Yes, I have seen it and I have a patch attached.

There are more build breakers on non-pro with-stlport. Stay tuned for
further patches - I am working on the verification of my fixes.


If you provide the patches, I can test it with my environment.

Kind regards
Regina



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Re: Sidebar for Developers

[Andre Fischer]

On 12.06.2013 08:59, Jörg Schmidt wrote:

But I am interested in a clean approach to support Basic in
the sidebar
and volunteers can join the dev list and can work with us here in the
project.

I would be very interested to take part me when you tell me how I can help.
Unfortunately not I program in Java or C++.


Sounds good.  I have heard of a UI editor (written in Basic?) that 
produces XML resource files that can be used in extensions.  Maybe you 
can tell me how this works.  And/or design a little dialog that can be 
used in a second demo extension for the sidebar.  I would then provide 
the Java part of that extension.


-Andre



In the concrete, I hope it could be a way to functionality via a 'unserdefined'
'bridge' (in the sense of a UN service, which would be addressed also by
StarBasic) to open up.
Better would be of course, as you rightly say, a direct access via StarBasic, 
that
needs to be but then implemetiert in AOO directly.



Greetings,
Jörg


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Re: Sidebar for Developers

[Andre Fischer]

On 12.06.2013 08:59, Jörg Schmidt wrote:

From: Andre Fischer [mailto:awf@gmail.com]
I tried to download this extension but the link on the Wiki
page to the
source code download page is broken.  After searching and
finding it I
discovered that you have to register to be allowed to
download it.  I am
not willing to do that.

I had this extension not at all addressed if I had not found the public website.

But I have saved the extension also here with me, I will send them to you via 
PM?


Yes, please.




Therefore I do not know how the service(s) in SimpleConfig are
implemented or which language is used to do that.

The language is Java.


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Re: service ResultSet

[Rajath Shashidhara]

Yes. I have done that. :)


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

> On 6/12/13 9:04 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
> > Hello Juergen,
> >
> > I have already implemented my own XRow. I'm implementing the result set
> > service by defining a List with each XRow containing the
> information
> > of a child object in case of a folder.
>
> good, keep in mind to return only the properties that the cmd ask for
>
> Juergen
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Jürgen Schmidt  >wrote:
> >
> >> On 6/12/13 8:45 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
> >>> Hello Juergen,
> >>>
> >>> I'm following this:
> >>>
> >>
> http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/ucb/Content.html
> >>>  .
> >>> Is there any other revised source that I have to follow?
> >>
> >> ok, I see what you mean. You have to implement simply a UNO object
> >> implementing the XRow interface. And yes the docu say it is similar to a
> >> ResultSet.
> >>
> >> But is much easier than you expect, I have done this before and have to
> >> find the code ... will take some time, probably I can send you an
> >> example in the evening.
> >>
> >> Or you can implement an object supporting the XRow interface on your
> >> your own.
> >>
> >> See also the DevGuide
> >>
> >>
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/UCB/Obtaining_Content_Properties
> >>
> >> And please don't ask me why it was designed this way ;-)
> >>
> >> Juergen
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Rajath Shashidhara <
> >>> rajaths.raja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  Hello Juergen,
> 
>  But the return datatype of Open Command is a dynamic result set. So, a
>  result set service must be implemented right?
> 
> 
>  On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
> jogischm...@gmail.com
> >>> wrote:
> 
> > On 6/12/13 6:55 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >> Just a small doubt.
> >> I was looking at the methods to be implemented in ResultSet.
> >> m_RowCount stores the current row being accessed.
> >> I have a doubt in the following methods.
> >> Methods:
> >> next(),previous(),beforeFirst(),afterLast() .
> >>
> >> Initially when the resultset is constructed, m_RowCount will be zero
> >> according to the api reference.
> >> If there are 'X' Rows.
> >> So, m_RowCount can take 0,1,..,X,X+1 values only or can it take
> >> any
> >> value?
> >>
> >> Because even X+2 is afterLast() and -1 is beforeFirst().
> >>
> >
> > I would not use ResultSet in this context, it was mainly designed and
> > used in the context of databases.
> >
> > Internally you can use whatever you want and the return via the API
> is
> > just a property sequence. Use whatever you want and ensure that it
> can
> > be fast converted in a sequence (in Java array) of properties.
> >
> > 2 open commands have to update the values anyway because in the time
> > between both commands the values could have changed anyway, e.g. a
> file
> > got written/updated from somewhere else.
> >
> > Juergen
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Article on the Register

[Andre Fischer]

On 12.06.2013 01:23, Kay Schenk wrote:

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:


On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Kay Schenk 

wrote:

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Andrea Pescetti 
wrote:

RGB ES wrote:


2013/6/11 Rob Weir


On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote:

  On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Andre Fischer wrote:

It is sad that it has the usual misinformation:


I was quite surprised to read it. At least, if a journalist had to

pick a

recent blog post from the OpenOffice blog, the one about release

schedules

is definitely less interesting than other recent ones...


  You should find the email of the publication's news editor and write a

polite yet firm complaint


Or just post a comment. Andre, did you try doing so? Maybe they will
rectify some clear factual errors in the article. I strongly recommend

that

you post your comments there and not only here on the list.


  So the best strategy is to ignore the the FUD and push accurate and

useful information onto our website.  That approach reaches more
users, and is under our control.


+1. Talking about sites like El Reg means promoting them, and

promotion

means more weight on search engines for those lies


+1, yes, it's untrue and insulting but our actions DO speak louder than
these words.



Note that the highly visible site is http://www.openoffice.org and not
the blog; the site is linked to the blog only through a link that is

at the

bottom of the page and, moreover, is hidden under a JavaScript layer.

So something that we should do immediately is to create a simple block
with the titles of our latest three blog posts (from the official

blog) and

put it on the homepage. And keep it updated manually, at least when

it's

worth doing so.


A good idea! I too feel the blogs are a bit too submerged. Let's see

what

we can come up with for this.


How about adding it to the top-nav, where we currently have:

Product
Download
Support
Extend
Develop
Focus Areas
Native Language

Put a new entry there for "News" or "Blog" and have that link to the

blog.
I went ahead and did this.  Easily reversible if we don't like it.

http://www.openoffice.org/

-Rob


Great, thanks.  Looks like at least something good came from this article.




Well...I would have preferred calling it something else besides "News"
because now I think it's confused/associated with the left "News" items.

When Andrea brought this up, I guess I was thinking he wanted actual Blog
headlines listed/highlighted, but maybe the top nav bar is good if we come
up with something a bit more "catchy".  But...I got nothin. :/


Can we have both?  Some longer living, semi-'official' news and a more 
frequently changing list of recent blog posts.  I find both important 
and interesting.  And having blog posts listed on the main page may be 
an incentive to more people writing new posts.


-Andre





Putting it in the nav will give it visibility on most website (non-wiki)

pages.

-Rob



That will give more visibility to the blog articles, for both users and
journalists. Both categories are important. And some journalists will
hopefully share my (personal, but probably not so personal) taste on

which

are the posts to be featured!

Regards,
   Andrea.




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Re: service ResultSet

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 6/12/13 9:04 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
> Hello Juergen,
> 
> I have already implemented my own XRow. I'm implementing the result set
> service by defining a List with each XRow containing the information
> of a child object in case of a folder.

good, keep in mind to return only the properties that the cmd ask for

Juergen


> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> 
>> On 6/12/13 8:45 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
>>> Hello Juergen,
>>>
>>> I'm following this:
>>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/ucb/Content.html
>>>  .
>>> Is there any other revised source that I have to follow?
>>
>> ok, I see what you mean. You have to implement simply a UNO object
>> implementing the XRow interface. And yes the docu say it is similar to a
>> ResultSet.
>>
>> But is much easier than you expect, I have done this before and have to
>> find the code ... will take some time, probably I can send you an
>> example in the evening.
>>
>> Or you can implement an object supporting the XRow interface on your
>> your own.
>>
>> See also the DevGuide
>>
>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/UCB/Obtaining_Content_Properties
>>
>> And please don't ask me why it was designed this way ;-)
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Rajath Shashidhara <
>>> rajaths.raja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hello Juergen,

 But the return datatype of Open Command is a dynamic result set. So, a
 result set service must be implemented right?


 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Jürgen Schmidt >> wrote:

> On 6/12/13 6:55 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
>> Hello,
>> Just a small doubt.
>> I was looking at the methods to be implemented in ResultSet.
>> m_RowCount stores the current row being accessed.
>> I have a doubt in the following methods.
>> Methods:
>> next(),previous(),beforeFirst(),afterLast() .
>>
>> Initially when the resultset is constructed, m_RowCount will be zero
>> according to the api reference.
>> If there are 'X' Rows.
>> So, m_RowCount can take 0,1,..,X,X+1 values only or can it take
>> any
>> value?
>>
>> Because even X+2 is afterLast() and -1 is beforeFirst().
>>
>
> I would not use ResultSet in this context, it was mainly designed and
> used in the context of databases.
>
> Internally you can use whatever you want and the return via the API is
> just a property sequence. Use whatever you want and ensure that it can
> be fast converted in a sequence (in Java array) of properties.
>
> 2 open commands have to update the values anyway because in the time
> between both commands the values could have changed anyway, e.g. a file
> got written/updated from somewhere else.
>
> Juergen
>
>
>
>
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Re: Article on the Register

[Andre Fischer]

On 11.06.2013 17:45, Rob Weir wrote:

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Andre Fischer  wrote:


I just read this article [1] on the Register: "Apache devs: 'We'll ship no
OpenOffice before its time'"

It is sad that it has the usual misinformation:


You should find the email of the publication's news editor and write a
polite yet firm complaint, saying in fewer words what you said here, put
the writer in cc:, then lay back and enjoy the fireworks. It also helps if
you put such letter on-line and reference it in your e-mail.

Just an idea.. ;-)


I think just ignore it.  Why help promote El Reg?


Hm, I like the Register. I like their style and usually their articles 
seem to be better researched, at least two years ago, when I read them 
more regularly.  But more importantly, this is just one of several such 
articles in the last months.  That makes me wonder if we should not be 
more active in making (of what we thing are) the facts better known.


Do we already have an anti-FUD page in the Wiki that we can easily 
reference in comments to such articles?


-Andre




Look at the numbers:

www.openoffice.org: Alexa Traffic Rank #3715:
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/openoffice.org

theregister.co.uk: Alexa Traffic Rank  #4251:
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/theregister.co.uk

In other words, our website gets more traffic than their news site does.

And libreoffice.org is ranked #8163:
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/libreoffice.org

So the best strategy is to ignore the the FUD and push accurate and
useful information onto our website.  That approach reaches more
users, and is under our control.

Regards,

-Rob



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Re: service ResultSet

[Rajath Shashidhara]

Hello Juergen,

I have already implemented my own XRow. I'm implementing the result set
service by defining a List with each XRow containing the information
of a child object in case of a folder.


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

> On 6/12/13 8:45 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
> > Hello Juergen,
> >
> > I'm following this:
> >
> http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/ucb/Content.html
> >  .
> > Is there any other revised source that I have to follow?
>
> ok, I see what you mean. You have to implement simply a UNO object
> implementing the XRow interface. And yes the docu say it is similar to a
> ResultSet.
>
> But is much easier than you expect, I have done this before and have to
> find the code ... will take some time, probably I can send you an
> example in the evening.
>
> Or you can implement an object supporting the XRow interface on your
> your own.
>
> See also the DevGuide
>
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/UCB/Obtaining_Content_Properties
>
> And please don't ask me why it was designed this way ;-)
>
> Juergen
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Rajath Shashidhara <
> > rajaths.raja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Juergen,
> >>
> >> But the return datatype of Open Command is a dynamic result set. So, a
> >> result set service must be implemented right?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Jürgen Schmidt  >wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 6/12/13 6:55 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
>  Hello,
>  Just a small doubt.
>  I was looking at the methods to be implemented in ResultSet.
>  m_RowCount stores the current row being accessed.
>  I have a doubt in the following methods.
>  Methods:
>  next(),previous(),beforeFirst(),afterLast() .
> 
>  Initially when the resultset is constructed, m_RowCount will be zero
>  according to the api reference.
>  If there are 'X' Rows.
>  So, m_RowCount can take 0,1,..,X,X+1 values only or can it take
> any
>  value?
> 
>  Because even X+2 is afterLast() and -1 is beforeFirst().
> 
> >>>
> >>> I would not use ResultSet in this context, it was mainly designed and
> >>> used in the context of databases.
> >>>
> >>> Internally you can use whatever you want and the return via the API is
> >>> just a property sequence. Use whatever you want and ensure that it can
> >>> be fast converted in a sequence (in Java array) of properties.
> >>>
> >>> 2 open commands have to update the values anyway because in the time
> >>> between both commands the values could have changed anyway, e.g. a file
> >>> got written/updated from somewhere else.
> >>>
> >>> Juergen
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >> M.Sc(Hons.) Physics,
> >> Birla Institute of Technology and Science - Pilani,
> >> Pilani
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: service ResultSet

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 6/12/13 8:45 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
> Hello Juergen,
> 
> I'm following this:
> http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/ucb/Content.html
>  .
> Is there any other revised source that I have to follow?

ok, I see what you mean. You have to implement simply a UNO object
implementing the XRow interface. And yes the docu say it is similar to a
ResultSet.

But is much easier than you expect, I have done this before and have to
find the code ... will take some time, probably I can send you an
example in the evening.

Or you can implement an object supporting the XRow interface on your
your own.

See also the DevGuide
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/UCB/Obtaining_Content_Properties

And please don't ask me why it was designed this way ;-)

Juergen


> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Rajath Shashidhara <
> rajaths.raja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Juergen,
>>
>> But the return datatype of Open Command is a dynamic result set. So, a
>> result set service must be implemented right?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Jürgen Schmidt 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/12/13 6:55 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
 Hello,
 Just a small doubt.
 I was looking at the methods to be implemented in ResultSet.
 m_RowCount stores the current row being accessed.
 I have a doubt in the following methods.
 Methods:
 next(),previous(),beforeFirst(),afterLast() .

 Initially when the resultset is constructed, m_RowCount will be zero
 according to the api reference.
 If there are 'X' Rows.
 So, m_RowCount can take 0,1,..,X,X+1 values only or can it take any
 value?

 Because even X+2 is afterLast() and -1 is beforeFirst().

>>>
>>> I would not use ResultSet in this context, it was mainly designed and
>>> used in the context of databases.
>>>
>>> Internally you can use whatever you want and the return via the API is
>>> just a property sequence. Use whatever you want and ensure that it can
>>> be fast converted in a sequence (in Java array) of properties.
>>>
>>> 2 open commands have to update the values anyway because in the time
>>> between both commands the values could have changed anyway, e.g. a file
>>> got written/updated from somewhere else.
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> --
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>> M.Sc(Hons.) Physics,
>> Birla Institute of Technology and Science - Pilani,
>> Pilani
>>
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