date:20130621

Hello,

I wanted to convert an XInputStream into java.io.InputStream.
I found this on the mail archive.
http://markmail.org/message/fo2txhbgxu3ksnct

This is a very old mail.
So, just asking if such a conversion api has been defined now.
What is the best way to do this conversion?


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Re: [4.0]Wrong cursor positioning when a comment is present on the document

2013-06-21 Thread Tsutomu Uchino

Hi,

2013/6/22, RGB ES :
> 2013/6/21 RGB ES 
>
>> I did not reported this yet.
>>
>> Download this document
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/Test-Bug.odt
>>
>> On pages 3 and 7 you'll see some text highlighted. There is also a
>> comment
>> inserted on page 3. If you click on the yellow text on page 3, the cursor
>> jumps to the heading instead of remaining where you clicked. If you click
>> on the yellow text on page 7 the situation is even worse: the cursor
>> jumps
>> to the footer of previous page.
>>
>> Now, go to page 3 and delete the note: clicking on any yellow text the
>> cursor behave as intended.
>>
>> Also, if with the note in place you delete text under the first heading
>> so
>> the "chapter" gets reduced to two pages, the jump on page 7 does not
>> occur.
>>
>> The document is new, all styles defined today and created on
>>
>> AOO400m2(Build:9701)  -  Rev. 1493305
>> 2013-06-15 03:58:54 (Sat, 15 Jun 2013) - Linux x86_64
>>
>> Can someone confirm this this *really* strange issue?
>>
>
> OK, this is getting even more strange: if I hide the sidebar, the problem
> does not happen...
I can confirm the strange behaviour on side by side mode (middle icon) when
the width of the document window is not wide enough.
When the horizontal scrollbar of the document does not have scrollable
remaining,
the problem not happen on:
AOO341m1(Build:9593) - Rev. 1372282
2012-08-13 09:43:38(Mon, 13 Aug 2012) - Linux i686

Regards
- Tsutomu
>
>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Regards
>> Ricardo
>>
>

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Completed How the Apache OpenOffice Project Works

2013-06-21 Thread William

I am getting error ( accessing your personal settings or your Personal 
settings are blocked. I am operating windows 7. Can you tel me how to 
correct this error.

Thank you
wc...@att.net
615 459-7924

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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Jörg Schmidt  wrote:
>
>
>> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
>
>
>> I assume for #4 that you mean the news feed points to the ASF-hosted
>> page that lists 3rd party distributions, but not to the 3rd party page
>> directly.   That is my understanding, at least.
>>
>> It could say, for example, "PrOOo Box now released with support for
>> AOO 3.4.1.  See our ports and distributions page for details".
>>
>> That would be fine, IMHO.
>
> Yes, that would be possible.
>
>
> Rob, an honest word:
> I have taken care that the site is de current, and I know what German users 
> want, _but I knew nothing of item 1 to 4_ (see Dave's mail) ... PLEASE 
> consider that a "no" from you is a "no" for me, however, the attempt would 
> help me to find a solution that will meet our (i mean the local German 
> community) requirements for the de-website AND the rules of Apache have been 
> a better way.
> A little help is sometimes better than just the citing of rules.
>
> Understandable?
>

In my very first post on the topic, I wrote:

"So one solution discussed was to do similar to what we do with the
main English pages with winPenPack.  We have a general page for 3rd
party ports and distributions:

http://www.openoffice.org/porting/

So it might be good to add info about PrOOo-Box to that page.  And
then if you want, you could translate that entire page, or link to it."

That was true then.  That is true now.  It us unfortunate that it
required such a long thread for it sink in.

Regards,

-Rob

>
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> Jörg
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Re: [4.0]Wrong cursor positioning when a comment is present on the document

2013/6/21 RGB ES 

> I did not reported this yet.
>
> Download this document
>
> http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/Test-Bug.odt
>
> On pages 3 and 7 you'll see some text highlighted. There is also a comment
> inserted on page 3. If you click on the yellow text on page 3, the cursor
> jumps to the heading instead of remaining where you clicked. If you click
> on the yellow text on page 7 the situation is even worse: the cursor jumps
> to the footer of previous page.
>
> Now, go to page 3 and delete the note: clicking on any yellow text the
> cursor behave as intended.
>
> Also, if with the note in place you delete text under the first heading so
> the "chapter" gets reduced to two pages, the jump on page 7 does not occur.
>
> The document is new, all styles defined today and created on
>
> AOO400m2(Build:9701)  -  Rev. 1493305
> 2013-06-15 03:58:54 (Sat, 15 Jun 2013) - Linux x86_64
>
> Can someone confirm this this *really* strange issue?
>

OK, this is getting even more strange: if I hide the sidebar, the problem
does not happen...


>
> Thanks
>
> Regards
> Ricardo
>

[4.0]Wrong cursor positioning when a comment is present on the document

I did not reported this yet.

Download this document

http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/Test-Bug.odt

On pages 3 and 7 you'll see some text highlighted. There is also a comment
inserted on page 3. If you click on the yellow text on page 3, the cursor
jumps to the heading instead of remaining where you clicked. If you click
on the yellow text on page 7 the situation is even worse: the cursor jumps
to the footer of previous page.

Now, go to page 3 and delete the note: clicking on any yellow text the
cursor behave as intended.

Also, if with the note in place you delete text under the first heading so
the "chapter" gets reduced to two pages, the jump on page 7 does not occur.

The document is new, all styles defined today and created on

AOO400m2(Build:9701)  -  Rev. 1493305
2013-06-15 03:58:54 (Sat, 15 Jun 2013) - Linux x86_64

Can someone confirm this this *really* strange issue?

Thanks

Regards
Ricardo

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

 

> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] 


> I assume for #4 that you mean the news feed points to the ASF-hosted
> page that lists 3rd party distributions, but not to the 3rd party page
> directly.   That is my understanding, at least.
> 
> It could say, for example, "PrOOo Box now released with support for
> AOO 3.4.1.  See our ports and distributions page for details".
> 
> That would be fine, IMHO.

Yes, that would be possible.


Rob, an honest word:
I have taken care that the site is de current, and I know what German users 
want, _but I knew nothing of item 1 to 4_ (see Dave's mail) ... PLEASE consider 
that a "no" from you is a "no" for me, however, the attempt would help me to 
find a solution that will meet our (i mean the local German community) 
requirements for the de-website AND the rules of Apache have been a better way.
A little help is sometimes better than just the citing of rules.

Understandable?


Greetings,
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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Jorg Schmidt

 
> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] 

> My recollection of the discussion was.
> 
> (1) Have a 3rd party page.
> 
> (2) Each language may have their own 3rd party page.
> 
> (3) Each language can have their own news feed.
> 
> (4) Each news item may link to a 3rd party page.
> 
> Conclusion.
> 
> DE page can have news about PrOOo and point to a link on the 
> 3rd party page.

In my view, that would be a very aktzeptable solution.

Please note:
an important part of the solution is that there are language-specific 3rd party
pages. Because that is understandable for the local user.

> Do we all agree?

I think the question is only for PMC members, it is not, then by me +1



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Re: Where to find images for splash screen, about box, etc.?

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 3:33 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> On 11.06.2013 12:56, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just want to mention issue 122331 [1].
>> It is about a missing logo/image in the first visible dialog on the
>> Windows installation.
>>
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122331
>>
>> Best regards, Oliver.
>>
>> On 11.06.2013 10:38, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>
>>> On 6/11/13 9:58 AM, Andre Fischer wrote:

 On 10.06.2013 19:15, Rob Weir wrote:
>
> Where in the SVN tree can I find the images used for these three areas
> of OpenOffice where the logo is displayed:
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Application+And+Launcher
>
>
>
> We're trying to determine the dimensions and formats needed for the
> updated logo.


 Splash Screen:
  main/default_images/introabout/intro.png

 Start Screen:
  There are two parts, left side and right side.  These exist in both
 regular and high-contrast version as well as regular and right-to-left.
 That makes eight images in total:
  main/default_images/framework/res/backing.png  (left
 side,  regular,   left-to-right)
  main/default_images/framework/res/backing_right.png(right
 side, regular,   left-to-right)
  main/default_images/framework/res/backing_hc.png   (left side,
 high contrast, left-to-right)
  main/default_images/framework/res/backing_right_hc.png   (right
 side, high contrast, left-to-right)
 main/default_images/framework/res/backing_rtl_left.png (left side,
 regular,   right-to-left)
 main/default_images/framework/res/backing_rtl_right.png (right side,
 regular,   right-to-left)
 main/default_images/framework/res/backing_rtl_left_hc.png (left side,
 high contrast, right-to-left)
 main/default_images/framework/res/backing_rtl_right_hc.png (right side,
 high contrast, right-to-left)

  The space between the left and right sides is filled with the
 images
 but these are basically empty (just background and shadow) and probably
 will not have to be modified.
>>>
>>>
>>> The shadow is very important here and is not seen directly, at least I
>>> missed it the first time I modified the image.
>>>

 main/default_images/framework/res/backing_space.png (center, regular)
 main/default_images/framework/res/backing_space_hc.png (center, high
 contrast)


 About Screen:
  main/default_images/introabout/about.png


 Other:
 Some other images that I stumbled upon while searching for those
 above.

 The current logo as 256x256 png:
  main/default_images/introabout/logo.png

 A really old logo (6 frames of an animation):
  main/default_images/sfx2/res/an01.png   ...an06.png

>>>
>>> Some more images used for the Windows setup or Mac dmg
>>>
>>> main/instsetoo_native/res/nologoinstall.bmp
>>>
>>>
>>> main/instsetoo_native/inc_openoffice/windows/msi_templates/Binary/Banner.bmp
>>>
>>>
>>> main/instsetoo_native/inc_openoffice/windows/msi_templates/Binary/Image.bmp
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> main/instsetoo_native/inc_ooolangpack/windows/msi_templates/Binary/Banner.bmp
>>>
>>>
>>> main/instsetoo_native/inc_ooolangpack/windows/msi_templates/Binary/Image.bmp
>>>
>>>
>>> main/instsetoo_native/inc_sdkoo/windows/msi_templates/Binary/Banner.bmp
>>> main/instsetoo_native/inc_sdkoo/windows/msi_templates/Binary/Image.bmp
>>>
>>> main/setup_native/source/mac/ooo/osxdndinstall.png
>>> main/setup_native/source/mac/ooo/osxdndinstall_nologo.png
>>> main/setup_native/source/mac/ooo/osxdndinstall_lang.png
>>> main/setup_native/source/mac/ooo3_installer.icns
>>>
>>> main/setup_native/source/mac/sdk/osxdndinstall.png
>>>
>>> Especially the setup_native Mac images need later on some further
>>> tweaking of the DS_Store files that I will do.
>>>
>
>
> While working on issue 122331 I found the following images:
> main/setup_native/source/win32/nsis/ooobanner.bmp
> main/setup_native/source/win32/nsis/ooobitmap.bmp
> main/setup_native/source/win32/nsis/ooosetup.ico
> main/setup_native/source/win32/nsis/ooosdkbanner.bmp
> main/setup_native/source/win32/nsis/ooosdkbitmap.bmp
> main/setup_native/source/win32/nsis/urebanner.bmp
> main/setup_native/source/win32/nsis/urebitmap.bmp
>
> There are used in the different Windows installers.
>

Thanks.  I added them to the wiki, along with their sizes:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Product+Logo+Use

-Rob


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Re: Hello! I'm Piotr!

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Piotr Bala  wrote:
> Hello everybody!
>
> I'm Piotr and at this time I help to develop the german AOO Website.
> I have contributed some changes that Jörg and I talked about in the german 
> mailing list.
>
> So if you have any question to me, i am now on the international developer 
> mailing list.
>

Thanks, Piotr.I've seen your patches come through for the German
website.  I wanted to have a contact email in case I (or anyone else)
had questions before committing them.

As you probably heard, we're discussing PrOOoBox and how to mention it
on the website.

Regards,

-Rob

> greetings
> Piotr
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Re: language of office program

2013-06-21 Thread Rory O'Farrell

On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 10:28:08 -0600
Kristen Todd  wrote:

> Hi! Can you help me change the language of the entire office program? i
> just bought this used computer and its all in Spanish
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Kristen

Download the appropriate Language Pack from
http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html
and install it.  It will change OpenOffice to the new chosen language.

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language of office program

2013-06-21 Thread Kristen Todd

Hi! Can you help me change the language of the entire office program? i
just bought this used computer and its all in Spanish

Thank you,

Kristen

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites


> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 

> Someone is responsible for the box and it semms to me, it's 
> not the ASF.
> So we have to make clear, who's the legal entity distributing the box
> (even it's a gift).

The legal entity is, in this case, formally an group consisting of Detlef, Jan 
and me.

(Formally, the person responsible for the website is Jan, and for the DVD it's 
Detlef.)



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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>
> On Jun 21, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Dr. Michael Stehmann wrote:
>
>> Am 21.06.2013 17:06, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, RA Stehmann
>>>  wrote:
 Hi Rob,

 I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly.

 I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a product of the
 ASF but distributed by the "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..".

 But on the other hand the "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.." isn't
 any old third party.

>>>
>>> We need to be fair.  Treating one 3rd party special is not fair.
>>
>> Treating equal things unequal isn't fair, but it's also unfair treating
>> unequal things equal. You have to make the decision, what's equal and
>> whd what's unequa and in what aspect. That's the sense of "suum cuique
>> tribuere".
>
> My recollection of the discussion was.
>
> (1) Have a 3rd party page.
>
> (2) Each language may have their own 3rd party page.
>
> (3) Each language can have their own news feed.
>
> (4) Each news item may link to a 3rd party page.
>
> Conclusion.
>
> DE page can have news about PrOOo and point to a link on the 3rd party page.
>
> Do we all agree?
>

I assume for #4 that you mean the news feed points to the ASF-hosted
page that lists 3rd party distributions, but not to the 3rd party page
directly.   That is my understanding, at least.

It could say, for example, "PrOOo Box now released with support for
AOO 3.4.1.  See our ports and distributions page for details".

That would be fine, IMHO.

I think a relevant fact for thinking about this is that there are a
number of corporations who contribute money and services to the ASF,
in order to keep it operating.  But we do not link to them on our home
page.  Instead we have a separate "sponsors" page that we use:

http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html

I've never heard anyone offended by this practice.  We're not
insulting the companies that contribute to help the ASF.  But we don't
put up advertisements for 3rd parties on the homepage as a matter of
policy.

-Rob

> Regards,
> Dave
>
>>>
 It's a charitable german entity supporting Free office software. It's
 still supporting Apache OpenOffice. The computer an the monitor at our
 Fosdem stand were provided by "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..".

 Disclaimer: I'm no member of that club, but know persons who are.

 So IMO it's ok to put that news in the news line of the homepage, making
 clear, who's the distributor of that product.

>>>
>>> I'd be much happier if the German community listened to what I am
>>> saying and took steps to address the full issue. IMHO you need to add
>>> a page that gives equal access to all 3rd party ports and
>>> distributions, and not just favor a single one with a news
>>> announcement.
>>
>> see above.
>>
>> IMO you like to treat uneqal things equal.
>>
>> Making a page presenting third party products makes sense.
>>
>> But it don't makes sense, presenting all third party products in the
>> news. And it makes IMO sense presenting the box there.
>>
>>>
>>> If you then give announcements of updates to these distributions,
>>> whenever they occur, and do such announcements fairly, not for just a
>>> single 3rd party, then this might be OK.   So if you really want to
>>> move this forward I'd highly recommend creating and maintaining a
>>> German version of the porting page:
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/porting/
>>>
>>
>> Doing one thing doesn't mean to drop another.
>>
>> Regards
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Dave Fisher


On Jun 21, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Dr. Michael Stehmann wrote:

> Am 21.06.2013 17:06, schrieb Rob Weir:
>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, RA Stehmann
>>  wrote:
>>> Hi Rob,
>>> 
>>> I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly.
>>> 
>>> I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a product of the
>>> ASF but distributed by the "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..".
>>> 
>>> But on the other hand the "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.." isn't
>>> any old third party.
>>> 
>> 
>> We need to be fair.  Treating one 3rd party special is not fair.
> 
> Treating equal things unequal isn't fair, but it's also unfair treating
> unequal things equal. You have to make the decision, what's equal and
> whd what's unequa and in what aspect. That's the sense of "suum cuique
> tribuere".

My recollection of the discussion was.

(1) Have a 3rd party page.

(2) Each language may have their own 3rd party page.

(3) Each language can have their own news feed.

(4) Each news item may link to a 3rd party page.

Conclusion.

DE page can have news about PrOOo and point to a link on the 3rd party page.

Do we all agree?

Regards,
Dave

>> 
>>> It's a charitable german entity supporting Free office software. It's
>>> still supporting Apache OpenOffice. The computer an the monitor at our
>>> Fosdem stand were provided by "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..".
>>> 
>>> Disclaimer: I'm no member of that club, but know persons who are.
>>> 
>>> So IMO it's ok to put that news in the news line of the homepage, making
>>> clear, who's the distributor of that product.
>>> 
>> 
>> I'd be much happier if the German community listened to what I am
>> saying and took steps to address the full issue. IMHO you need to add
>> a page that gives equal access to all 3rd party ports and
>> distributions, and not just favor a single one with a news
>> announcement.
> 
> see above.
> 
> IMO you like to treat uneqal things equal.
> 
> Making a page presenting third party products makes sense.
> 
> But it don't makes sense, presenting all third party products in the
> news. And it makes IMO sense presenting the box there.
> 
>> 
>> If you then give announcements of updates to these distributions,
>> whenever they occur, and do such announcements fairly, not for just a
>> single 3rd party, then this might be OK.   So if you really want to
>> move this forward I'd highly recommend creating and maintaining a
>> German version of the porting page:
>> http://www.openoffice.org/porting/
>> 
> 
> Doing one thing doesn't mean to drop another.
> 
> Regards
> Michael
> 
> 
> 


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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann

Am 21.06.2013 17:35, schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
>> From: RA Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 
> 
>> I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly.
>>
>> I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a 
>> product of the
>> ASF but distributed by the "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..".
> 
> No, that's not right!
> 
> The "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.." only pays for web hosting, it 
> has no rights or influence the content.
> 
> 
Someone is responsible for the box and it semms to me, it's not the ASF.
So we have to make clear, who's the legal entity distributing the box
(even it's a gift).

Regards
Michael




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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann

Am 21.06.2013 17:06, schrieb Rob Weir:
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, RA Stehmann
>  wrote:
>> Hi Rob,
>>
>> I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly.
>>
>> I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a product of the
>> ASF but distributed by the "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..".
>>
>> But on the other hand the "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.." isn't
>> any old third party.
>>
> 
> We need to be fair.  Treating one 3rd party special is not fair.

Treating equal things unequal isn't fair, but it's also unfair treating
unequal things equal. You have to make the decision, what's equal and
whd what's unequa and in what aspect. That's the sense of "suum cuique
tribuere".
> 
>> It's a charitable german entity supporting Free office software. It's
>> still supporting Apache OpenOffice. The computer an the monitor at our
>> Fosdem stand were provided by "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..".
>>
>> Disclaimer: I'm no member of that club, but know persons who are.
>>
>> So IMO it's ok to put that news in the news line of the homepage, making
>> clear, who's the distributor of that product.
>>
> 
> I'd be much happier if the German community listened to what I am
> saying and took steps to address the full issue. IMHO you need to add
> a page that gives equal access to all 3rd party ports and
> distributions, and not just favor a single one with a news
> announcement.

see above.

IMO you like to treat uneqal things equal.

Making a page presenting third party products makes sense.

But it don't makes sense, presenting all third party products in the
news. And it makes IMO sense presenting the box there.

> 
> If you then give announcements of updates to these distributions,
> whenever they occur, and do such announcements fairly, not for just a
> single 3rd party, then this might be OK.   So if you really want to
> move this forward I'd highly recommend creating and maintaining a
> German version of the porting page:
> http://www.openoffice.org/porting/
> 

Doing one thing doesn't mean to drop another.

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Re: AOO 4.0 Logo: We're not done yet!

2013-06-21 Thread Kay Schenk

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

>
> On Jun 20, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>
> > In case you are not following the discussion on the dev list, Juergen,
> > the 4.0 Release Manager, has proposed an endgame schedule for the AOO
> > 4.0 release:
> >
> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201306.mbox/%3C51C16876.402%40gmail.com%3E
> >
> > The date relevant to the logo is Monday July 1th.  That is the
> > deadline for getting the logo changes integrated into Subversion for
> > the OpenOffice product.
> >
> > Changes on the website and social networking don't have a hard
> > deadline and can come later, perhaps synched up with the actual
> > release of AOO 4.0, which is planned for later in July.
> >
> > So what needs to be done?
> >
> > 1) Kevin said he wanted to make some fine tuning of the text kerning
> > in the logo.
> >
> > 2) Alexandro said something about adjusting the colors.  But I'm not
> > certain I understood that correctly.
> >
> > 3) We need to update the graphics in the product.  And there are a lot
> > of them, around 25 of them, which I've laboriously transcribed onto
> > the wiki:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Product+Logo+Use
> >
> > Most of them will be simple.  It is just a matter of replacing one
> > logo with another, and preserving the right formats, dimensions, color
> > depths, etc.
> >
> > A few exceptions, of placements which will require some more thought:
> >
> > a) The splash screen is here:
> >
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/default_images/introabout/intro.png
> >
> > It has integrated text and graphics and the text is rather ugly.  Can
> > we do better here?  This is a place where some "wow" is appropriate.
>
> Consider
>
> (1) Take the logo SVG
> (2) Add "4"
> (3) Scale to the 550 x 365 px size.
> (4) Add updated and well written text in the same font.
> (5) Add quality Apache Feather.
> (6) Include trademark.
> (7) Cool contextual graphics?
> (8) Create a PNG from the SVG.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>

Could you post an image for us?

I truly liked the idea of incorporating the feather, somehow, but well,
none of the submitted logos with it got high ratings.



> >
> > b) Some of the placements have "high contrast" versions, needed for
> > when this mode is enabled in the operating system.  This improves
> > visibility for users with low vision.  For example:
> >
> >
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/default_images/framework/res/backing_hc.png
> >
> > I think we need to consult with someone with expertise in this to know
> > exactly what we should be doing here.
> >
> > c) This is from the SDK install:
> >
> >
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/instsetoo_native/inc_sdkoo/windows/msi_templates/Binary/Image.bmp
> >
> > As you can see it is a more elaborate, 3D image showing
> > "OpenOffice.org" in the title bar.  This will require someone skilled
> > with their graphics editor to replace that text and make it look
> > natural.  Or redo the image.
> >
> > So plenty of work to do here for anyone who is good with a graphics
> > editor and wants to help.
> >
> > But first we need Kevin and Alexandro to make their changes to the
> > master SVG.  After that we can work in parallel on the remaining
> > pieces.
> >
> > The master SVG, from Chris, is here:
> >
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/
> >
> > We have a little more than a week to do this, so can I strongly
> > suggest that Kevin and Alexandro make their changes ASAP, and by
> > Monday June 24th at the latest?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -Rob
> >
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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Jörg Schmidt  wrote:
>> From: Peter Junge [mailto:peter.ju...@gmx.org]
>
>> > *We would be pleased if the Apache paid. Apache wants to do that?*
>>
>> As far as I understand the Apache way: Apache products must
>> be hosted by
>> Apache infrastructure(*),
>
> If the Apache to want that's OK.
>
>
> But please check it out my problem:
>
> if I develop something that is useful for the users of AOO, and I'm AOO 
> community member, how can I tell you when I'm not allowed to talk about it?
>

I think this page covers it well:

http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles

Especially the part on multiple "hats":

"Individuals compose the ASF

All of the ASF including the board, the other officers, the
committers, and the members, are participating as individuals. That is
one strength of the ASF, affiliations do not cloud the personal
contributions.

Unless they specifically state otherwise, whatever they post on any
mailing list is done as themselves. It is the individual
point-of-view, wearing their personal hat and not as a mouthpiece for
whatever company happens to be signing their paychecks right now, and
not even as a director of the ASF.

All of those ASF people implicitly have multiple hats, especially the
Board, the other officers, and the PMC chairs. They sometimes need to
talk about a matter of policy, so to avoid appearing to be expressing
a personal opinion, they will state that they are talking in their
special capacity. However, most of the time this is not necessary,
personal opinions work well.

Some people declare their hats by using a special footer to their
email, others enclose their statements in special quotation marks,
others use their apache.org email address when otherwise they would
use their personal one. This latter method is not reliable, as many
people use their apache.org address all of the time."

So how do we apply this to 3rd party announcements?  For example, I
think it is always fair for an individual to post a message to a
mailing list, with news about a new release.  The post comes from an
personal email address, not an Apache one, and it is clear to everyone
that it is not an official project announcement.

However, when we put something on a website, it is not clear what hat
is speaking.  And when it is put on a major page, like the German
homepage, it will look, to users, exactly like an official project
announcement.

Of course, it is important to help promote the ecosystem, and the
contributions of 3rd parties.  We have ways of doing this.  Look at
the consultants directory, or the list of third party books, or the
ports and distributions page.  They all have something in common:

1) We put a disclaimer stating that these are 3rd party items, not
endorsed by the project.

2) We don't advertise them directly on the home page.

> These are the facts:
>
> -I am member of the community for 8 years (first in OOo now at AOO)
> -the PrOOo-Box for years in Germany as the CD of the community known (and 
> *not* as a product of a third party)
> -the PrOOo-box is only made by german AOO community members
>
> And all to what is going on is a temporary news-teaser.
>
>
> Is it the Apache-way to tell their own community members, no we do not want 
> the reports to her about your work?
> May only be called public work of community members when it takes place on 
> Apache sites?
>
> A news teaser is not a press release, not a privilege, it is only a piece of 
> information for users.
>

I disagree. Placement of announcements the homepage is not something
we do for all 3rd parties.  We can discuss whether, as a project, we
want to start doing that.  But our practice has been not to allow
that.  It would be unfair to do this selectively.

>
> And please, let me put it exactly:
>
> the problem is not _the one_ teaser, the problem is my lack of understanding 
> as we locally on site, can work for AOO when we officially allowed to say 
> anything about it.
>
> The PrOOo box is a result of our work, the work of the German AOO community, 
> why can not you report it?
>

There is nothing wrong with reporting it on the mailing list, from a
personal email address.   Maybe we could have a blog post as well?  We
did that with winPenPack, where I interviewed the project lead.  There
are ways for us to recognize ecosystem contributions.  But an
advertisement on the home page is not one of them.

> AND:
>
> *Why wants to Apache, we advertise [1] on the PrOOo box for Apache when it is 
> not desired the other hand, we mention the PrOOo-box?*
>
> [1]
> That was the content of the request we received from tradema...@apache.org, 
> because there was requested that we put a link to the project pages of 
> Apache. We gladly accepted of course.
>

We receive permission requests from many parties who wish to
redistribute AOO.  But so far we have never put an advertisement for
any of them on our homepage.

Regards,

-Rob

>
>
> Greetings,
> Jörg
>
>
>
>
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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

> From: RA Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 

> I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly.
> 
> I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a 
> product of the
> ASF but distributed by the "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..".

No, that's not right!

The "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.." only pays for web hosting, it has 
no rights or influence the content.


Greetings,
Jörg


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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

> From: Peter Junge [mailto:peter.ju...@gmx.org] 

> > *We would be pleased if the Apache paid. Apache wants to do that?*
> 
> As far as I understand the Apache way: Apache products must 
> be hosted by 
> Apache infrastructure(*),

If the Apache to want that's OK.


But please check it out my problem:

if I develop something that is useful for the users of AOO, and I'm AOO 
community member, how can I tell you when I'm not allowed to talk about it?

These are the facts:

-I am member of the community for 8 years (first in OOo now at AOO)
-the PrOOo-Box for years in Germany as the CD of the community known (and *not* 
as a product of a third party)
-the PrOOo-box is only made by german AOO community members

And all to what is going on is a temporary news-teaser.


Is it the Apache-way to tell their own community members, no we do not want the 
reports to her about your work?
May only be called public work of community members when it takes place on 
Apache sites?

A news teaser is not a press release, not a privilege, it is only a piece of 
information for users.


And please, let me put it exactly:

the problem is not _the one_ teaser, the problem is my lack of understanding as 
we locally on site, can work for AOO when we officially allowed to say anything 
about it.

The PrOOo box is a result of our work, the work of the German AOO community, 
why can not you report it?

AND:

*Why wants to Apache, we advertise [1] on the PrOOo box for Apache when it is 
not desired the other hand, we mention the PrOOo-box?*

[1]
That was the content of the request we received from tradema...@apache.org, 
because there was requested that we put a link to the project pages of Apache. 
We gladly accepted of course.



Greetings,
Jörg




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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013/6/21 Rob Weir 

> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, RA Stehmann
>  wrote:
> > Hi Rob,
> >
> > I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly.
> >
> > I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a product of the
> > ASF but distributed by the "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..".
> >
> > But on the other hand the "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.." isn't
> > any old third party.
> >
>
> We need to be fair.  Treating one 3rd party special is not fair.
>

+1. An exception never confirms a rule, an exception always break a rule.
No matter if we are talking about an old and trusted friend, a third party
is always a third party with the same rights and duties of all other third
parties.



>
> > It's a charitable german entity supporting Free office software. It's
> > still supporting Apache OpenOffice. The computer an the monitor at our
> > Fosdem stand were provided by "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..".
> >
> > Disclaimer: I'm no member of that club, but know persons who are.
> >
> > So IMO it's ok to put that news in the news line of the homepage, making
> > clear, who's the distributor of that product.
> >
>
> I'd be much happier if the German community listened to what I am
> saying and took steps to address the full issue. IMHO you need to add
> a page that gives equal access to all 3rd party ports and
> distributions, and not just favor a single one with a news
> announcement.
>
> If you then give announcements of updates to these distributions,
> whenever they occur, and do such announcements fairly, not for just a
> single 3rd party, then this might be OK.   So if you really want to
> move this forward I'd highly recommend creating and maintaining a
> German version of the porting page:
> http://www.openoffice.org/porting/
>
>
+1 again. IMO, this is by far the best solution. All community members
deserve the same respect.

Regards
Ricardo



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>
> > Regards
> > Michael
> >
>
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Hello! I'm Piotr!

2013-06-21 Thread Piotr Bala

Hello everybody!

I'm Piotr and at this time I help to develop the german AOO Website.
I have contributed some changes that Jörg and I talked about in the german 
mailing list.

So if you have any question to me, i am now on the international developer 
mailing list.

greetings
Piotr



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Re: Build AOO in Win7 Troubles

2013-06-21 Thread Ivan Fuentes

Thank you, i did it, I've been kind of busy at my job, but this weekend i'm
going to be working in the project
El jun 14, 2013 11:01 PM, "Raphael Bircher"  escribió:

> Hi
>
> Am 15.06.13 05:43, schrieb Ivan Fuentes:
>
>> I know i followed all the instructuctions...I could fix that error,
>> Now i got this one:
>>
>> bundling of dictionaries is disabled.
>>
> This one is not a error, you should be able to continue
>
> Greetings Raphael
>
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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, RA Stehmann
 wrote:
> Hi Rob,
>
> I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly.
>
> I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a product of the
> ASF but distributed by the "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..".
>
> But on the other hand the "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.." isn't
> any old third party.
>

We need to be fair.  Treating one 3rd party special is not fair.

> It's a charitable german entity supporting Free office software. It's
> still supporting Apache OpenOffice. The computer an the monitor at our
> Fosdem stand were provided by "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..".
>
> Disclaimer: I'm no member of that club, but know persons who are.
>
> So IMO it's ok to put that news in the news line of the homepage, making
> clear, who's the distributor of that product.
>

I'd be much happier if the German community listened to what I am
saying and took steps to address the full issue. IMHO you need to add
a page that gives equal access to all 3rd party ports and
distributions, and not just favor a single one with a news
announcement.

If you then give announcements of updates to these distributions,
whenever they occur, and do such announcements fairly, not for just a
single 3rd party, then this might be OK.   So if you really want to
move this forward I'd highly recommend creating and maintaining a
German version of the porting page:
http://www.openoffice.org/porting/

-Rob

> Regards
> Michael
>

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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Peter Junge  wrote:
> On 6/21/2013 9:59 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
>>
>>
 What is the problem?

>>>
>>> The CD is not from the Apache OpenOffice project.  It was not reviewed
>>> and approved for release by the project.  It is a 3rd party product.
>>> The website says it is from "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..":
>>
>>
>> No, this is absolutely *not* true!
>>
>> The "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.." is NOT the creator of the
>> PrOOo-box, but that's us (Detlef, Jan and I) three members of the
>> AOO-Community in Germany.
>>
>> You can see my entry here:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory+of+Volunteers
>>
>> and I can gladly Jan and Detlef ask to register there.
>>
>> The "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V. is the *only* one who pays us
>> the hosting of the Box (850 euros per year).
>>
>> *We would be pleased if the Apache paid. Apache wants to do that?*
>
>
> As far as I understand the Apache way: Apache products must be hosted by
> Apache infrastructure(*), but as the PrOOo-Box certainly contains also
> non-Apache products it cannot be hosted at Apache. Seems a Catch-22 to me.
> Does someone has any good idea how to fix this? It would certainly be a good
> thing to continue the PrOOo-Box within the AOO community.
>

Do you have a list of what non-Apache products are included?

There may be something possible here.

The AOO install sets, for example, include non-Apache components.  But
we had to carefully review them for license requirements, and document
these licenses and required notices, etc.  And this was all decided by
a public vote of the PMC.

So this may be possible.  But it must start with a proposal and
discussion on the dev list.  So it is good to start this discussion
now.

-Rob


> (*) Apache strictly requires to avoid community fragmentation like it had
> happened with OOo.
>
> Best regards
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>> But these are still 3rd party distributions.
>>
>>
>> No, this is the Box of german Members of the AOO-Community!
>>
>>
>> But that is not the problem, because the question is a Others, namely how
>> we can make local work on AOO when we can not even provide information users
>> need?
>>
>> A notice in a news-teaser is anyway only a temporary entry. What is the
>> problem?
>>
>>
>> Rob, you have, tell me here on the list, the following:
>>
>> * it's okay to get involved locally for AOO and Apache welcomes such
>> activities
>>
>> * I should self make a choice
>>
>>
>> However, I live in Germany, and here I know the OpenOffice users for more
>> than 8 years, and I know what users need for assistance.
>> And we all have to do something otherwise AOO lost in Germany. Sorry, but
>> that *is* the truth.
>>
>>
>>> So we are fair and we don't give special prominence to any single 3rd
>>> party distribution.
>>
>>
>> But that is *not* what is needed.
>>
>> There shall be *no* permanent link, but only a *temporary* news-teaser.
>> This teaser is automatically replaced by someone else, as soon as there are
>> new news.
>>
>> What is the problem?
>>
>>
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Jörg
>>
>>
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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Jörg Schmidt  wrote:
> Hello,
>
>> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
>
>> > What is the problem?
>> >
>>
>> The CD is not from the Apache OpenOffice project.  It was not reviewed
>> and approved for release by the project.  It is a 3rd party product.
>> The website says it is from "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..":
>
> No, this is absolutely *not* true!
>
> The "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.." is NOT the creator of the 
> PrOOo-box, but that's us (Detlef, Jan and I) three members of the 
> AOO-Community in Germany.
>
> You can see my entry here:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory+of+Volunteers
>
> and I can gladly Jan and Detlef ask to register there.
>

I know who you are.  That is not the issue here.


> The "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V. is the *only* one who pays us the 
> hosting of the Box (850 euros per year).
>
> *We would be pleased if the Apache paid. Apache wants to do that?*
>
>> But these are still 3rd party distributions.
>
> No, this is the Box of german Members of the AOO-Community!
>

And "Members of the AOO-Community" are not the same as the "Apache
OpenOffice project".  So they are third parties.  Otherwise we run
into absurdities, like "Members of IBM" (who are also member of the
project) getting together asking to host links to Symphony on the
www.openoffice.org homepage.


>
> But that is not the problem, because the question is a Others, namely how we 
> can make local work on AOO when we can not even provide information users 
> need?
>
> A notice in a news-teaser is anyway only a temporary entry. What is the 
> problem?
>

I'm sorry what I said was not clear.  Maybe someone else can explain it better.

>
> Rob, you have, tell me here on the list, the following:
>
> * it's okay to get involved locally for AOO and Apache welcomes such 
> activities
>
> * I should self make a choice
>
>
> However, I live in Germany, and here I know the OpenOffice users for more 
> than 8 years, and I know what users need for assistance.
> And we all have to do something otherwise AOO lost in Germany. Sorry, but 
> that *is* the truth.
>

This is all fine.  We just need to be clear what is a product of
Apache, and what is done by 3rd parties, even 3rd parties who are also
members of the project.  And for 3rd parties we must treat their
products specially.And one area we need to be careful about is how
we advertise 3rd party products on the website.

>
>> So we are fair and we don't give special prominence to any single 3rd
>> party distribution.
>
> But that is *not* what is needed.
>
> There shall be *no* permanent link, but only a *temporary* news-teaser. This 
> teaser is automatically replaced by someone else, as soon as there are new 
> news.
>
> What is the problem?
>

Advertising 3rd party products on the homepage.

-Rob

>
>
> Greetings,
> Jörg
>
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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread RA Stehmann

Hi Rob,

I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly.

I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a product of the
ASF but distributed by the "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..".

But on the other hand the "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.." isn't
any old third party.

It's a charitable german entity supporting Free office software. It's
still supporting Apache OpenOffice. The computer an the monitor at our
Fosdem stand were provided by "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..".

Disclaimer: I'm no member of that club, but know persons who are.

So IMO it's ok to put that news in the news line of the homepage, making
clear, who's the distributor of that product.

Regards
Michael



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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Peter Junge


On 6/21/2013 9:59 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote:

Hello,


From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]



What is the problem?



The CD is not from the Apache OpenOffice project.  It was not reviewed
and approved for release by the project.  It is a 3rd party product.
The website says it is from "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..":


No, this is absolutely *not* true!

The "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.." is NOT the creator of the 
PrOOo-box, but that's us (Detlef, Jan and I) three members of the AOO-Community in 
Germany.

You can see my entry here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory+of+Volunteers

and I can gladly Jan and Detlef ask to register there.

The "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V. is the *only* one who pays us the 
hosting of the Box (850 euros per year).

*We would be pleased if the Apache paid. Apache wants to do that?*


As far as I understand the Apache way: Apache products must be hosted by 
Apache infrastructure(*), but as the PrOOo-Box certainly contains also 
non-Apache products it cannot be hosted at Apache. Seems a Catch-22 to 
me. Does someone has any good idea how to fix this? It would certainly 
be a good thing to continue the PrOOo-Box within the AOO community.


(*) Apache strictly requires to avoid community fragmentation like it 
had happened with OOo.


Best regards
Peter









But these are still 3rd party distributions.


No, this is the Box of german Members of the AOO-Community!


But that is not the problem, because the question is a Others, namely how we 
can make local work on AOO when we can not even provide information users need?

A notice in a news-teaser is anyway only a temporary entry. What is the problem?


Rob, you have, tell me here on the list, the following:

* it's okay to get involved locally for AOO and Apache welcomes such activities

* I should self make a choice


However, I live in Germany, and here I know the OpenOffice users for more than 
8 years, and I know what users need for assistance.
And we all have to do something otherwise AOO lost in Germany. Sorry, but that 
*is* the truth.



So we are fair and we don't give special prominence to any single 3rd
party distribution.


But that is *not* what is needed.

There shall be *no* permanent link, but only a *temporary* news-teaser. This 
teaser is automatically replaced by someone else, as soon as there are new news.

What is the problem?



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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

Hello,

> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] 

> > What is the problem?
> >
> 
> The CD is not from the Apache OpenOffice project.  It was not reviewed
> and approved for release by the project.  It is a 3rd party product.
> The website says it is from "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..":

No, this is absolutely *not* true! 

The "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.." is NOT the creator of the 
PrOOo-box, but that's us (Detlef, Jan and I) three members of the AOO-Community 
in Germany.

You can see my entry here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory+of+Volunteers

and I can gladly Jan and Detlef ask to register there.

The "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V. is the *only* one who pays us the 
hosting of the Box (850 euros per year).

*We would be pleased if the Apache paid. Apache wants to do that?*

> But these are still 3rd party distributions.

No, this is the Box of german Members of the AOO-Community!


But that is not the problem, because the question is a Others, namely how we 
can make local work on AOO when we can not even provide information users need?

A notice in a news-teaser is anyway only a temporary entry. What is the problem?


Rob, you have, tell me here on the list, the following:

* it's okay to get involved locally for AOO and Apache welcomes such activities

* I should self make a choice


However, I live in Germany, and here I know the OpenOffice users for more than 
8 years, and I know what users need for assistance.
And we all have to do something otherwise AOO lost in Germany. Sorry, but that 
*is* the truth.


> So we are fair and we don't give special prominence to any single 3rd
> party distribution.

But that is *not* what is needed. 

There shall be *no* permanent link, but only a *temporary* news-teaser. This 
teaser is automatically replaced by someone else, as soon as there are new 
news. 

What is the problem?



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[ANNOUNCEMENT] Javadoc HTML frame injection vulnerability and AOO SDK

We've published a security bulletin and patch for the Apache
OpenOffice 3.4.1 SDK.

Due to a flaw in JavaDoc generated API documentation, one of the files
in the 3.4.1 SDK is vulnerable to an HTML frame injection attack.

Details on the issue, and a patched HTML file, can be found here:

http://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2013-1571.html

Note: this impacts only installations of the SDK.  Normal end-user
installs of Apache OpenOffice are not impacted.

Regards,

Rob Weir
Apache OpenOffice Security Team

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[QA][Test Report] Weekly Status Update as of 20130621

2013-06-21 Thread Yuzhen Fan

Hi All,

We wrap up the AOO 4.0 Full Regression test this week, here is the weekly
update (6/17 - 6/21):

*Test execution:*
1. Testing of silent installation on Windows, it is passed in WinXP while
failed in Win7
Bug 122560 - msiexec installation only possible with parameter "/i"

2.  Full/Final Regression test
We have assigned 1804 (last week 1732) text executions to about 20
volunteers, and completed about 64% in execution (1150 test executions
done). We will retest the failed/blocked test executions as the defects get
fixed

*Defect summary:*
1. 4.0.0 release blocker candidate defects have been reviewed done, results
from Hamburg team and Beijing QA team have been combined by Oliver(thanks)
- 15 proposed release blocker
2. Silent installation defect (Bug 122560 - msiexec installation only
possible with parameter "/i") is opened recently, it's a critical problem
that AOO does not allow administrators to deploy AOO as they need - propose
to add it in release block list
*
Issues & quality highlight:*
1. The problem of silent installation on Windows is not a new problem to
4.0, it is seen in a 3.4.1
2. The triage of bugs for AOO 4.0.0 release blockers is ongoing with a
proposed list
3. QAs are reminded to retest the failed/blocked test executions as the
defects get fixed
*
Volunteer status: *
1. No new volunteers(total 20 so far) on test execution work, 3 person ask
for more as they have completed their assignment
2. No new volunteers(total 6 so far) on defect work, the work on confirming
defects is closed for now, as we have identified the show stopper issues
for AOO 4.0
3. No volunteers on Base/Draw exploration test, we have execution gap here
*
Plan for next week:*
1. Prepare test env for Base exploration test - Platform (VM for RHEL) and
Database (DB2, ..)
2. Work with volunteers to verify defects with severity as blocker or
critical (total 84)
3. Work with development to prioritize critical defects as 4.0.0 release
blockers
4. Retest the failed/blocked test executions as the defects get fixed

Thanks you all for effort this week, let's continue and make progress next
week!

Regards,
Yu Zhen

Re: PROPOSE Release Blocker: Re: Problem with Search function on 4.0

2013/6/21 Andre Fischer 

> On 20.06.2013 21:33, RGB ES wrote:
>
>> 2013/6/20 Rob Weir 
>>
>>  On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 3:04 PM, RGB ES  wrote:
>>>
 2013/6/20 Hagar Delest 

  Confirmed on:
> AOO400m1(Build:9700)
> 2013-05-07 14:38:38 (Tue, 07 May 2013) - Linux x86_64
>
> NB: same with the Find toolbar.
>
>  Indeed. I filled this issue:

 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122567

 This is a really problematic issue, IMO.

>>>
> This is a duplicate of bug 122880, which already has a request for release
> blocker flag.  That bug has also already a proposed patch.


Good to know! (about the patch, I mean: confirm my poor skills on searching
bugzilla issues is a bad new for me... ;)

Regards
Ricardo



>
>
> -Andre
>
>
>  I've set the "Release Blocker ?"  flag.
>>>
>>>  +1.
>>
>> Ricardo
>>
>>
>>
>>  -Rob
>>>
>>>  Regards
 Ricardo



  Hagar
>
>
> Le 20/06/2013 20:32, RGB ES a écrit :
>
>
>   I need someone to confirm a problem before doing a report.
>
>> Open a new Writer document and type
>>
>> Text, text, TEXT
>>
>> Now press Ctrl-F to activate the search tool. Be sure that "match
>>
> case" is
>>>
 NOT selected and search for "text": the tool will only find the second
>> word, ignoring the first and third ones as if "match case" were
>>
> selected.
>>>
 This in on the ES build:
>>
>> AOO400m2(Build:9701)  -  Rev. 1493305
>> 2013-06-15 03:58:54 (Sat, 15 Jun 2013) - Linux x86_64
>>
>> Regards
>> Ricardo
>>
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Re: Triage for AOO 4.0.0 Release Blockers


On 20.06.2013 17:09, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

On 06.06.2013 13:54, Yuzhen Fan wrote:

Hi All,

Here is the list of identified candidates[1]/[2] which are proposed to
be 4.0.0 release blockers. Please indicate your selections for release
blockers by giving 1 vote to 1 bug (the vote field is beside the
importance field, in a bug form). We hope to get the vote score this
week, any bugs you think most critical to you, please bring out and
let's discuss.

[1]
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=4.0.0_release_blocker%3F&sharer_id=249289&list_id=64740 


[2] Also attach the file for the list
(AOO4.0.0_release_blocker_candidates.ods)



Armin, Jürgen, Andre and myself reviewed in the last days the list of 
issues which had been requested for release blocker (release blocker 
flag = '?') and are not solved.


We propose the following issues as release blockers [1]:
- 120250
- 120443 (actually 121772 - 120443 is a dup. of this one)
- 120513
- 120559
- 121008
- 121143
- 121256


121256 can also be removed because it got fixed in the meantime.


- 121435
- 121479
- 121751
- 121925
- 121968
- 121977
- 122163
- 122300

Any objections to mark these issues as release blocker?

[1] 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=120250%20120443%20120513%20120559%20121008%20121143%20121256%20121435%20121479%20121751%20121925%20121968%20121977%20122163%20122300%20121772&list_id=68303



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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Jörg Schmidt  wrote:
> Hello Rob,
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 7:28 PM
>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; Jörg Schmidt
>> Subject: Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Jörg Schmidt
>>  wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > So far we had no one who takes care of updating the web
>> pages in the German community.
>> > Meanwhile, a new volunteer has, with Piotr, found that
>> makes this work. However, Piotr needs help commit himself so
>> far that he is not a committer.
>> >
>>
>> There was a discussion on this patch on the dev list.  I would have
>> cc'de Piotr but he didn't put his full name or contact information in
>> the patch comment.
>
> Piotr I will say that he should imagine on the dev list.
> Ok?
>

Thanks.

>> There was a concern over the link to the PrOOo-Box website.   Some of
>> us (including me) were concerned about putting advertisements like
>> that on an NL homepage.  As a non-profit we need to be fair and not
>> promote one 3rd party over another.
>
> Rob, that's not to understand the PrOOo box is the OpenOffice CD of the 
> German community for over 8 years. The deutschgen users know this CD.
>
> Always all content and changes in PrOOo box in the community were discussed, 
> the content of PrOOo of the community always was approved.
>
> We are also very happy to have taken into account all information of Apache, 
> for example, currently a request by Andrea Pescetti and tradema...@apache.org.
>

This isn't a trademark issue.

> What is the problem?
>

The CD is not from the Apache OpenOffice project.  It was not reviewed
and approved for release by the project.  It is a 3rd party product.
The website says it is from "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..":

http://www.prooo-box.org/

Of course, this doesn't mean it is a bad thing.  Personally I think it
is wonderful that this exists.  Just like I'm happy to see winPenPack
version of AOO.  But these are still 3rd party distributions.

And since they are third party distributions, from other
organizations, we need to be careful in how we refer to them on our
website.  The practice we've adopted for this is to list such
distributions (and ports) on a special page:

http://www.openoffice.org/porting/

The ensures fairness.  Everyone wants placement on the front page of
the website.  We get requests (to the private list) from companies on
a regular basis begging us to "partner" with them and looking for a
mention on the website.  We refuse them every time.

So a good solution would be to have a page that mentions all 3rd party
distributions of AOO and has a disclaimer like we have on the /porting
page:

"The following list of third-party party ports and distributions is
made available as a service to the community. The Apache OpenOffice
project does not officially endorse or maintain these packages"

So we are fair and we don't give special prominence to any single 3rd
party distribution.  We don't have favorites or "special relations"
with 3rd parties.

But once we have a page that lists all 3rd party distributions, then
we can promote that page on the home page.

Another solution would be to create the CD (the ISO image) as an
official publication of the project, and have it be reviewed and
approved by the PMC.  That would require additional work, reviewing
the license and notice of the additional material, checking in the
source of the artwork, etc.  But if approved for release it would get
far greater attention, and could be linked to right from our main
download page.

> Where is _this_ discussion? I could not find anything.
>
>
>
> AND let me say clearly, there is no special link to PrOOo box, there is only 
> one news-Note!
>
> AND ...
>
> there are MANY, MANY other links to external resources [1], how else should 
> do the website?
>
> The PrOOo box is essential for us in Germany, without the PrOOo box, we can 
> not effectively work for end-users because they expect to make a full CD, 
> created by project members.
>
> [1]
> for example:
> http://www.openoffice.org/de/foren.html
>

This isn't the de homepage.  Material on the homepage has special
prominence and is seen as being official.

> and the majority of these links is NOT run by project members - the 
> PrOOo-box, however, is made for more than 8 years of project members from 
> OpenOffice, in the past by members of OOo and current members of the German 
> AOO community!
>

winPenPack is old 8 years old.  But we do not link to it from our homepage.

In any case I hope the issue is clear here and no one turns this into
another "Rob is oppressing the masses" argument.

Regards,

-Rob

>
>> I understand enough German to review patches for the de NL page, but
>> it would be better, of course, to have a native speaker.
>
> That's a good idea, I will contact you directly Oliver.
>
> (I had hoped would help the Raph

4.0.0_release_blocker canceled: [Bug 122435] CRASH at first launch

2013-06-21 Thread bugzilla

Oliver-Rainer Wittmann  has canceled fanyuz...@gmail.com's
request for 4.0.0_release_blocker:
Bug 122435: CRASH at first launch
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122435


--- Additional Comments from Oliver-Rainer Wittmann 
I could not reproduce the defect in current snapshot - AOO400m2(Build:9701) -
Rev. 1491860; 2013-06-11 18:35:44 (Di, 11 Jun 2013)

--> status back to unconfirmed
--> removing release blocker request flag

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4.0.0_release_blocker granted: [Bug 121880] Find and Replace fails unless case is matched

2013-06-21 Thread bugzilla

j...@apache.org has granted fanyuz...@gmail.com's request for
4.0.0_release_blocker:
Bug 121880: Find and Replace fails unless case is matched
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121880


--- Additional Comments from j...@apache.org
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Re: Triage for AOO 4.0.0 Release Blockers


On 20.06.2013 17:09, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

On 06.06.2013 13:54, Yuzhen Fan wrote:

Hi All,

Here is the list of identified candidates[1]/[2] which are proposed to
be 4.0.0 release blockers. Please indicate your selections for release
blockers by giving 1 vote to 1 bug (the vote field is beside the
importance field, in a bug form). We hope to get the vote score this
week, any bugs you think most critical to you, please bring out and
let's discuss.

[1]
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=4.0.0_release_blocker%3F&sharer_id=249289&list_id=64740 


[2] Also attach the file for the list
(AOO4.0.0_release_blocker_candidates.ods)



Armin, Jürgen, Andre and myself reviewed in the last days the list of 
issues which had been requested for release blocker (release blocker 
flag = '?') and are not solved.


We propose the following issues as release blockers [1]:
- 120250


Bug 120250 can be removed from this list, it is now fixed.

-Andre


- 120443 (actually 121772 - 120443 is a dup. of this one)
- 120513
- 120559
- 121008
- 121143
- 121256
- 121435
- 121479
- 121751
- 121925
- 121968
- 121977
- 122163
- 122300

Any objections to mark these issues as release blocker?

[1] 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=120250%20120443%20120513%20120559%20121008%20121143%20121256%20121435%20121479%20121751%20121925%20121968%20121977%20122163%20122300%20121772&list_id=68303



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Re: "Insert" command

Hello Juergen,

the decription of "insert" some what makes it clear:

This command inserts a new content. It commits the process of
 // creating a new content via executing the command "createNewContent"
 // and initializing it via setting properties, afterwards.
 // The command is not called on the content which created the new
 // content, because the new object already knows where it is to be
 // inserted (i.e. Calling createNewContent with the content type for a
 // message on a News Group creates a content which internally belongs
 // to the Outbox. Calling "insert" on that message will result in
 // posting the article to the appropriate News Group). Not calling
 // "insert" for the new content, i.e. because the user cancels writing
 // a new message, simply discards the new object. No extra call to
 // "delete" is necessary.

But what is not clear is suppose there were more than one call to
createNewContent. and only one call to insert.

whether all the created content must be committed or only a particular
content must be committed. how to decide that?/?




On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Rajath Shashidhara <
rajaths.raja...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Juergen,
>
> If I have to create new content, where do I obtain the properties of the
> content. InsertCommandArgument2 has no attribute to store the content
> Properties.
>
> For example to insert a folder - what is its "Title" ?
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>
>> On 6/21/13 9:16 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> > On 6/21/13 9:09 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
>> >> Hello Juergen,
>> >>
>> >> I mean if "getPropertyValues" is requested for non-existing content
>> what is
>> >> the exception that must be thrown?
>> >
>> > I have to check the code of another UCP to say it exactly, I can't
>> > remember for sure...
>>
>> first guess InteractiveIOException but as mentioned before I have to
>> check the code ...
>>
>> >
>> > But the UCP handles or communicate errors via exceptions, don't ask me
>> > why. Have you checked the exceptions and error codes (enums) on
>> >
>> http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/ucb/module-ix.html
>> ?
>> >
>> > Juergen
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>> jogischm...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 6/21/13 8:05 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
>>  Hello,
>> 
>>  The explanation for "insert" command is not clear to me.
>> 
>>  If I call "insert" for a document, then I'll have to set the
>> InputStream
>> >>> to
>>  to existing document. What happens If I call "insert" for a folder?
>> >>>
>> >>> you create a folder
>> >>>
>> 
>>  Also, if the object specified by path doesnt exist on the repository,
>> >>> what
>>  kind of error should be raised? I mean the XContentIdentifer points
>> to a
>>  location that doesnt exist, what kind of exception must be thrown?
>> >>>
>> >>> you should create it and only in case of an error you handle the error
>> >>> appropriately and return back to the UCB.
>> >>>
>> >>> In general you can open, edit and save document and folders, can
>> create
>> >>> new document and can delete document, rename document/folder, basic
>> file
>> >>> operations and all should be supported.
>> >>>
>> >>> Juergen
>> >>>
>> >>>
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Re: "Insert" command

Hello Juergen,

If I have to create new content, where do I obtain the properties of the
content. InsertCommandArgument2 has no attribute to store the content
Properties.

For example to insert a folder - what is its "Title" ?


On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

> On 6/21/13 9:16 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> > On 6/21/13 9:09 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
> >> Hello Juergen,
> >>
> >> I mean if "getPropertyValues" is requested for non-existing content
> what is
> >> the exception that must be thrown?
> >
> > I have to check the code of another UCP to say it exactly, I can't
> > remember for sure...
>
> first guess InteractiveIOException but as mentioned before I have to
> check the code ...
>
> >
> > But the UCP handles or communicate errors via exceptions, don't ask me
> > why. Have you checked the exceptions and error codes (enums) on
> >
> http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/ucb/module-ix.html
> ?
> >
> > Juergen
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Jürgen Schmidt  >wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 6/21/13 8:05 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
>  Hello,
> 
>  The explanation for "insert" command is not clear to me.
> 
>  If I call "insert" for a document, then I'll have to set the
> InputStream
> >>> to
>  to existing document. What happens If I call "insert" for a folder?
> >>>
> >>> you create a folder
> >>>
> 
>  Also, if the object specified by path doesnt exist on the repository,
> >>> what
>  kind of error should be raised? I mean the XContentIdentifer points
> to a
>  location that doesnt exist, what kind of exception must be thrown?
> >>>
> >>> you should create it and only in case of an error you handle the error
> >>> appropriately and return back to the UCB.
> >>>
> >>> In general you can open, edit and save document and folders, can create
> >>> new document and can delete document, rename document/folder, basic
> file
> >>> operations and all should be supported.
> >>>
> >>> Juergen
> >>>
> >>>
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Pilani

Re: Triage for AOO 4.0.0 Release Blockers

On 21.06.2013 08:57, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 6/20/13 8:01 PM, Edwin Sharp wrote:

Yes.
please allow to share the following objections:
1. in general, bugs shouldn't be rated

I disagree here and you always rate issues starting with setting a
priority. And as always you can't fix them all with a fix number of
developers. It simply doesn't work. That means you have to prioritize
and that is quite normal.

2. most are crashes - "release blocker" can be other than crash - i.e. copy
chart from Calc into Writer results in chart area without curve. this is a huge bug that
doesn't involve a crash

exactly and we have defined some criteria for issues, crashes, data loss
and security issues have always high priority. Regressions are also very
important especially when often used functionality is broken.

It is documented in the wiki but I haven't the reference in place yet,
have to look for it.

3. with all the respect to Norwegian users, print dialog too wide is a
negligible problem

not for this specific user group and the fix is already available.

4. there should be a documented evidence to the bug evaluation process, based
on approved SOP

I am not sure if I understand you here

5. the general public has no declared release date - no need to rush as there
is no commitment to fulfill

no but the project have committed to a release date and I believe the
majority of the community support the new release. You have to set a
date and have define what is important for this date. You can always do
more and can fix more issues but that won't work very well.

6. "minor" bugs should also get attention and be targeted

definitely but not short in front of a release. And of course nobody
prevent anybody from fixing such issues. We have a lot of them, many are
probably not longer valid and can be closed, other are not easy to fix
and so on. A good start would be of course to simply check older issues
if they are still valid or not.

7. the judgment of introducing the sidebar with so many pending bugs should be
justified to demonstrate openness

as far as I know we haven't pending bugs here. Don't mix this up with
improvement or feature requests. Maybe I don't understand you and you
can explain it again

8. RTF is rarely used today - no reason for two appearances in the list

RTF is as far as I known relevant for Ms interoperability in general and
important for other MS filters as well. Even the pure format is not used
often the functionality is important. If somebody knows more please
correct me.

9. Are there no "critical" bugs in Math, Draw and Base?

probably yes and probably many other critical bugs in other areas that
are not detected yet or not proposed as showstopper

I have just make a quick check how many bugs belong to which area.
Bugzilla is currently down for its daily maintenance (or whatever) so
there may be errors.

Writer, 8 bugs: 120250, 120513, 121143, 121435, 121479, 121751, 121925,
121977

Calc, 1 bug: 121008
Impress, 2 bugs: 121256, 120559

General, 4 bugs: 120443, 121968, 122163, 122300

So, half of the bugs where found in Writer. These numbers are not
unexpected. Writer is the application that is used by most of our users
(but I don't have the numbers to prove it, does anybody else?). Math,
Draw and Base are our least used applications. I would just have
expected a few more bugs for Calc. But the total number of bugs is not
very large and a statistical analysis not really valid.

-Andre

10. Are there enough volunteers to treat these "release blockers" on time?

we hope we can fix them all but volunteers are never enough ;-)

If you think that other issue should be showstopper as well, please
propose them on the dev list and we can discuss them. That's the way how
we want to handle it

Further discussion should take place on the dev list

Juergen

Thank you

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013, at 18:09, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,
Any objections to mark these issues as release blocker?

[1]
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=120250%20120443%20120513%20120559%20121008%20121143%20121256%20121435%20121479%20121751%20121925%20121968%20121977%20122163%20122300%20121772&list_id=68303

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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

Hello Rob, 

> -Original Message-
> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 7:28 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; Jörg Schmidt
> Subject: Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites
> 
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Jörg Schmidt 
>  wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > So far we had no one who takes care of updating the web 
> pages in the German community.
> > Meanwhile, a new volunteer has, with Piotr, found that 
> makes this work. However, Piotr needs help commit himself so 
> far that he is not a committer.
> >
> 
> There was a discussion on this patch on the dev list.  I would have
> cc'de Piotr but he didn't put his full name or contact information in
> the patch comment.

Piotr I will say that he should imagine on the dev list.
Ok?

> There was a concern over the link to the PrOOo-Box website.   Some of
> us (including me) were concerned about putting advertisements like
> that on an NL homepage.  As a non-profit we need to be fair and not
> promote one 3rd party over another.

Rob, that's not to understand the PrOOo box is the OpenOffice CD of the German 
community for over 8 years. The deutschgen users know this CD.

Always all content and changes in PrOOo box in the community were discussed, 
the content of PrOOo of the community always was approved.

We are also very happy to have taken into account all information of Apache, 
for example, currently a request by Andrea Pescetti and tradema...@apache.org.

What is the problem?

Where is _this_ discussion? I could not find anything.

AND let me say clearly, there is no special link to PrOOo box, there is only 
one news-Note!

AND ...

there are MANY, MANY other links to external resources [1], how else should do 
the website?

The PrOOo box is essential for us in Germany, without the PrOOo box, we can not 
effectively work for end-users because they expect to make a full CD, created 
by project members.

[1]
for example:
http://www.openoffice.org/de/foren.html

and the majority of these links is NOT run by project members - the PrOOo-box, 
however, is made for more than 8 years of project members from OpenOffice, in 
the past by members of OOo and current members of the German AOO community!

> I understand enough German to review patches for the de NL page, but
> it would be better, of course, to have a native speaker.

That's a good idea, I will contact you directly Oliver.

(I had hoped would help the Raphael, which was also the suggestion of Marcus 
(on the German list), but unfortunately, Raphael seems to have no interest.)

Greetings,
Jörg

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Re: Where to find images for splash screen, about box, etc.?

2013-06-21 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann


Hi,

On 11.06.2013 12:56, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

I just want to mention issue 122331 [1].
It is about a missing logo/image in the first visible dialog on the
Windows installation.

[1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122331

Best regards, Oliver.

On 11.06.2013 10:38, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 6/11/13 9:58 AM, Andre Fischer wrote:

On 10.06.2013 19:15, Rob Weir wrote:

Where in the SVN tree can I find the images used for these three areas
of OpenOffice where the logo is displayed:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Application+And+Launcher



We're trying to determine the dimensions and formats needed for the
updated logo.


Splash Screen:
 main/default_images/introabout/intro.png

Start Screen:
 There are two parts, left side and right side.  These exist in both
regular and high-contrast version as well as regular and right-to-left.
That makes eight images in total:
 main/default_images/framework/res/backing.png  (left
side,  regular,   left-to-right)
 main/default_images/framework/res/backing_right.png(right
side, regular,   left-to-right)
 main/default_images/framework/res/backing_hc.png   (left side,
high contrast, left-to-right)
 main/default_images/framework/res/backing_right_hc.png   (right
side, high contrast, left-to-right)
main/default_images/framework/res/backing_rtl_left.png (left side,
regular,   right-to-left)
main/default_images/framework/res/backing_rtl_right.png (right side,
regular,   right-to-left)
main/default_images/framework/res/backing_rtl_left_hc.png (left side,
high contrast, right-to-left)
main/default_images/framework/res/backing_rtl_right_hc.png (right side,
high contrast, right-to-left)

 The space between the left and right sides is filled with the
images
but these are basically empty (just background and shadow) and probably
will not have to be modified.


The shadow is very important here and is not seen directly, at least I
missed it the first time I modified the image.



main/default_images/framework/res/backing_space.png (center, regular)
main/default_images/framework/res/backing_space_hc.png (center, high
contrast)


About Screen:
 main/default_images/introabout/about.png


Other:
Some other images that I stumbled upon while searching for those
above.

The current logo as 256x256 png:
 main/default_images/introabout/logo.png

A really old logo (6 frames of an animation):
 main/default_images/sfx2/res/an01.png   ...an06.png



Some more images used for the Windows setup or Mac dmg

main/instsetoo_native/res/nologoinstall.bmp

main/instsetoo_native/inc_openoffice/windows/msi_templates/Binary/Banner.bmp

main/instsetoo_native/inc_openoffice/windows/msi_templates/Binary/Image.bmp


main/instsetoo_native/inc_ooolangpack/windows/msi_templates/Binary/Banner.bmp

main/instsetoo_native/inc_ooolangpack/windows/msi_templates/Binary/Image.bmp


main/instsetoo_native/inc_sdkoo/windows/msi_templates/Binary/Banner.bmp
main/instsetoo_native/inc_sdkoo/windows/msi_templates/Binary/Image.bmp

main/setup_native/source/mac/ooo/osxdndinstall.png
main/setup_native/source/mac/ooo/osxdndinstall_nologo.png
main/setup_native/source/mac/ooo/osxdndinstall_lang.png
main/setup_native/source/mac/ooo3_installer.icns

main/setup_native/source/mac/sdk/osxdndinstall.png

Especially the setup_native Mac images need later on some further
tweaking of the DS_Store files that I will do.




While working on issue 122331 I found the following images:
main/setup_native/source/win32/nsis/ooobanner.bmp
main/setup_native/source/win32/nsis/ooobitmap.bmp
main/setup_native/source/win32/nsis/ooosetup.ico
main/setup_native/source/win32/nsis/ooosdkbanner.bmp
main/setup_native/source/win32/nsis/ooosdkbitmap.bmp
main/setup_native/source/win32/nsis/urebanner.bmp
main/setup_native/source/win32/nsis/urebitmap.bmp

There are used in the different Windows installers.

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Re: Triage for AOO 4.0.0 Release Blockers

On 21.06.2013 08:57, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 6/20/13 8:01 PM, Edwin Sharp wrote:

Yes.
please allow to share the following objections:
1. in general, bugs shouldn't be rated

2. most are crashes - "release blocker" can be other than crash - i.e. copy
chart from Calc into Writer results in chart area without curve. this is a huge bug that
doesn't involve a crash

It is documented in the wiki but I haven't the reference in place yet,
have to look for it.

3. with all the respect to Norwegian users, print dialog too wide is a
negligible problem

not for this specific user group and the fix is already available.

4. there should be a documented evidence to the bug evaluation process, based
on approved SOP

I am not sure if I understand you here

5. the general public has no declared release date - no need to rush as there
is no commitment to fulfill

6. "minor" bugs should also get attention and be targeted

7. the judgment of introducing the sidebar with so many pending bugs should be
justified to demonstrate openness

I don't understand the second part of the sentence.

I have divided the bugs regarding the sidebar into three categories. For
each category exists one meta issue:

1. Bugs that have to be fixed for the 4.0 release are covered by issue
121420 (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121420)

At the moment there are no open bugs blocking it.

2. Bugs that should be addressed after the 4.0 release are marked as
blockers of issue 122364
(https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122364)
These are bugs that don't have a big impact on the majority of users or
would require a tremendous amount of work to fix them. There are six
bugs in this category.

3. Requested enhancements form the third category described by issue
122257 (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122257). There
are 18 feature requests or enhancements.

As said above, only bugs in the first category will be fixed for the 4.0
release. At the moment there are no such open bugs.

-Andre

as far as I know we haven't pending bugs here. Don't mix this up with
improvement or feature requests. Maybe I don't understand you and you
can explain it again

8. RTF is rarely used today - no reason for two appearances in the list

9. Are there no "critical" bugs in Math, Draw and Base?

probably yes and probably many other critical bugs in other areas that
are not detected yet or not proposed as showstopper

10. Are there enough volunteers to treat these "release blockers" on time?

we hope we can fix them all but volunteers are never enough ;-)

If you think that other issue should be showstopper as well, please
propose them on the dev list and we can discuss them. That's the way how
we want to handle it

Further discussion should take place on the dev list

Juergen

Thank you

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Hi,
Any objections to mark these issues as release blocker?

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Re: "Insert" command

2013-06-21 Thread Jürgen Schmidt

On 6/21/13 9:16 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 6/21/13 9:09 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
>> Hello Juergen,
>>
>> I mean if "getPropertyValues" is requested for non-existing content what is
>> the exception that must be thrown?
> 
> I have to check the code of another UCP to say it exactly, I can't
> remember for sure...

first guess InteractiveIOException but as mentioned before I have to
check the code ...

> 
> But the UCP handles or communicate errors via exceptions, don't ask me
> why. Have you checked the exceptions and error codes (enums) on
> http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/ucb/module-ix.html?
> 
> Juergen
> 
> 
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Jürgen Schmidt 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/21/13 8:05 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
 Hello,

 The explanation for "insert" command is not clear to me.

 If I call "insert" for a document, then I'll have to set the InputStream
>>> to
 to existing document. What happens If I call "insert" for a folder?
>>>
>>> you create a folder
>>>

 Also, if the object specified by path doesnt exist on the repository,
>>> what
 kind of error should be raised? I mean the XContentIdentifer points to a
 location that doesnt exist, what kind of exception must be thrown?
>>>
>>> you should create it and only in case of an error you handle the error
>>> appropriately and return back to the UCB.
>>>
>>> In general you can open, edit and save document and folders, can create
>>> new document and can delete document, rename document/folder, basic file
>>> operations and all should be supported.
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
>>>
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Re: Triage for AOO 4.0.0 Release Blockers

2013-06-21 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 21.06.2013 08:57, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 6/20/13 8:01 PM, Edwin Sharp wrote:

Yes. please allow to share the following objections: 1. in general,
bugs shouldn't be rated

2. most are crashes - "release blocker" can be other than crash -
i.e. copy chart from Calc into Writer results in chart area without
curve. this is a huge bug that doesn't involve a crash

exactly and we have defined some criteria for issues, crashes, data
loss and security issues have always high priority. Regressions are
also very important especially when often used functionality is
broken.

It is documented in the wiki but I haven't the reference in place
yet, have to look for it.

3. with all the respect to Norwegian users, print dialog too wide
is a negligible problem

not for this specific user group and the fix is already available.

4. there should be a documented evidence to the bug evaluation
process, based on approved SOP

I am not sure if I understand you here

5. the general public has no declared release date - no need to
rush as there is no commitment to fulfill

no but the project have committed to a release date and I believe
the majority of the community support the new release. You have to
set a date and have define what is important for this date. You can
always do more and can fix more issues but that won't work very
well.

6. "minor" bugs should also get attention and be targeted

definitely but not short in front of a release. And of course nobody
prevent anybody from fixing such issues. We have a lot of them, many
are probably not longer valid and can be closed, other are not easy
to fix and so on. A good start would be of course to simply check
older issues if they are still valid or not.

7. the judgment of introducing the sidebar with so many pending
bugs should be justified to demonstrate openness

as far as I know we haven't pending bugs here. Don't mix this up
with improvement or feature requests. Maybe I don't understand you
and you can explain it again

8. RTF is rarely used today - no reason for two appearances in the
list

RTF is as far as I known relevant for Ms interoperability in general
and important for other MS filters as well. Even the pure format is
not used often the functionality is important. If somebody knows more
please correct me.

Just some more background on the RTF filter:
The RTF format is used on copy-and-paste actions between OpenOffice
applications and other applications.
For example, issue 120023 is caused by a defect in the RTF filter.

Best regards, Oliver.

9. Are there no "critical" bugs in Math, Draw and Base?

probably yes and probably many other critical bugs in other areas
that are not detected yet or not proposed as showstopper

10. Are there enough volunteers to treat these "release blockers"
on time?

we hope we can fix them all but volunteers are never enough ;-)

If you think that other issue should be showstopper as well, please
propose them on the dev list and we can discuss them. That's the way
how we want to handle it

Further discussion should take place on the dev list

Juergen

Thank you

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013, at 18:09, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi, Any objections to mark these issues as release blocker?

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Re: "Insert" command

2013-06-21 Thread Jürgen Schmidt

On 6/21/13 9:09 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
> Hello Juergen,
> 
> I mean if "getPropertyValues" is requested for non-existing content what is
> the exception that must be thrown?

I have to check the code of another UCP to say it exactly, I can't
remember for sure...

But the UCP handles or communicate errors via exceptions, don't ask me
why. Have you checked the exceptions and error codes (enums) on
http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/ucb/module-ix.html?

Juergen


> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> 
>> On 6/21/13 8:05 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> The explanation for "insert" command is not clear to me.
>>>
>>> If I call "insert" for a document, then I'll have to set the InputStream
>> to
>>> to existing document. What happens If I call "insert" for a folder?
>>
>> you create a folder
>>
>>>
>>> Also, if the object specified by path doesnt exist on the repository,
>> what
>>> kind of error should be raised? I mean the XContentIdentifer points to a
>>> location that doesnt exist, what kind of exception must be thrown?
>>
>> you should create it and only in case of an error you handle the error
>> appropriately and return back to the UCB.
>>
>> In general you can open, edit and save document and folders, can create
>> new document and can delete document, rename document/folder, basic file
>> operations and all should be supported.
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
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Re: "Insert" command

Hello Juergen,

I mean if "getPropertyValues" is requested for non-existing content what is
the exception that must be thrown?


On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

> On 6/21/13 8:05 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > The explanation for "insert" command is not clear to me.
> >
> > If I call "insert" for a document, then I'll have to set the InputStream
> to
> > to existing document. What happens If I call "insert" for a folder?
>
> you create a folder
>
> >
> > Also, if the object specified by path doesnt exist on the repository,
> what
> > kind of error should be raised? I mean the XContentIdentifer points to a
> > location that doesnt exist, what kind of exception must be thrown?
>
> you should create it and only in case of an error you handle the error
> appropriately and return back to the UCB.
>
> In general you can open, edit and save document and folders, can create
> new document and can delete document, rename document/folder, basic file
> operations and all should be supported.
>
> Juergen
>
>
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Re: Problem with Search function on 4.0


On 20.06.2013 21:04, RGB ES wrote:

2013/6/20 Hagar Delest 


Confirmed on:
AOO400m1(Build:9700)
2013-05-07 14:38:38 (Tue, 07 May 2013) - Linux x86_64

NB: same with the Find toolbar.


Indeed. I filled this issue:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122567

This is a really problematic issue, IMO.


I said this in another thread already but want to make sure that you 
don't miss it: this is a duplicate of the already existing bug 121880.  
That bug does already have a patch and requested release blocker flag.


-Andre



Regards
Ricardo




Hagar


Le 20/06/2013 20:32, RGB ES a écrit :


  I need someone to confirm a problem before doing a report.

Open a new Writer document and type

Text, text, TEXT

Now press Ctrl-F to activate the search tool. Be sure that "match case" is
NOT selected and search for "text": the tool will only find the second
word, ignoring the first and third ones as if "match case" were selected.

This in on the ES build:

AOO400m2(Build:9701)  -  Rev. 1493305
2013-06-15 03:58:54 (Sat, 15 Jun 2013) - Linux x86_64

Regards
Ricardo



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