Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

2014-03-20 Thread Josh S
Hello,

My name is Josh and I live in Seattle, WA.

I am interested in getting as much QA experience as possible as quickly as
possible.

The reason for this is that I am moving  into a QA position at work and
want to get up to speed and be an effective member of my team.

I have completed the first course of the UW Java Dev classes and also done
some simplistic programming in Python and practiced in a program called
Raptor.

Not sure how this process goes exactly, but I am eager to help and a quick
learner.

Hope to be of help to someone and get some experience under my belt soon!

Thanks


stupid program

2014-03-20 Thread Jenifer Watkins
I hate Open Office—I have tried to fix it, I have a Mac OSX 10.9.1 and I know 
OO has a bug and I have tried to fix it, got to the library and deleted the 
folder, but still can’t shut down OO and, therefore, can’t update any other 
application.  I have looked all over the internet, have spent hours trying to 
get rid of this travesty, and I think this is totally irresponsible of this 
company, free or not, to NOT fix this easily.  This makes Windows look like 
child’s play—at least you can uninstall programs…..am very disappointed with 
Apache and OO.  It is probably going to cost me money to get my computer 
back….Jenifer Watkins
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Extensions "wish list" placementt?

2014-03-20 Thread Kay Schenk
Every once in a while a topic arises on this list and gets a response like
"that might be a good idea for an extension". And, we have a fair number of
folks who are interested in helping with development as well. So, I'm
wondering a few things --

* Is is a good idea to steer new developers into extension development
maybe as an introductory step?

* and, assuming we can track down some of proposed extensions, where is a
good place to record these for future reference?

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framesets on the web server

2014-03-20 Thread Kay Schenk
Does anyone know off-hand if framesets are allowed for web page display on
the web server? I have just uploaded an area using frames, and well, it
doesn't work as I expected. If not, I'll retool. Thanks.

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Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-20 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Andrea,

I am only commenting on a Foundation policy regarding advertising builds. 
Infrastructure is shared and while the impact of 1000s of users downloading a 
nightly build may seem small it has a possible negative influence on the 150 
other projects and 50 podlings that share this infrastructure.

If you want guidance or clearance on an exception to the policy then I think 
you know where to go. Infrastructure will need to agree and the board must not 
object.

Best Regards,
Dave

On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:22 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

> Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> This means, normal users go to:
>> www.openoffice.org/download/
>> Power users, dev's, qa's, etc. should be pointed to:
>> openoffice.apache.org/developer-faqs.html
>> So, putting text from Andrea's webpage proposal into the webpage Kay has
>> found (again ;-) ) could be the golden way.
> 
> They are two improvements in two different directions. Both good (as it would 
> be good to add text to the ci.apache.org page; some of us, but not me, do 
> have access to it).
> 
> I see no reasons against doing both (pending resolution of the -1 by Dave; 
> but I hope this can be withdrawn after the new explanations).
> 
> Regards,
>  Andrea.
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Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-20 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

> On 3/20/14 3:13 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> > Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> >>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/devbuilds.html
> >> Development continues on trunk and completely new unrelated problems can
> >> come up here.
> >
> > I don't want to divert the discussion, but wouldn't it make sense to
> > have daily builds both for AOO410 and for trunk? Sure, this means more
> > effort and more resources, but even if a daily build only fixes those
> > couple bugs that may have been approved as stoppers the day before, it's
> > already quite useful to volunteers who don't build OpenOffice themselves.
>
> sure that would make sense
>
> >
> >> For the release only the aoo410 branch is relevant. Well I have moved
> >> yesterday the SNAPSHOT tag on a proper version of the aoo410 branch and
> >> the next snapshot build comes closer to what we want release. But the
> >> SNAPSHOT build from the bots is Windows only.
> >
> > OK, so we are starting to have Windows (and Linux, right?) builds that
> > are intermediate steps between 4.1.0-Beta and 4.1.0. These do not
> > require extra effort, and these are the ones that should be very visible
> > to our volunteers and prospective volunteers if we want to get the
> > maximum QA coverage.
>
> no Linux from the bots, we have only a windows bot building the SNAPSHOT
> as far as I know
>
> Juergen
>

We have a 32 bit Linux SNAPSHOT, and a windows 7 SNAPSHOT which builds once
a week on Sunday at 7:00A (not sure about timezone).

The 4.10 tag is also building once a week on Sunday.


>
> >
> >> I hope you see my point and we should first work on the basics.
> >
> > I can edit the page to keep only builds that are from the AOO410 branch.
> > Remember, I see this as a targeted effort to deliver great quality in
> > 4.1.0. So I would make the page visible again when a new release is
> > approaching, to show what we will have available at that time.
> >
> > Regards,
> >   Andrea.
> >
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4.1.0_release_blocker requested: [Issue 124375] Active optional hyphens invisible for the NuevaStd font in exported PDF

2014-03-20 Thread bugzilla
j...@apache.org has asked  for 4.1.0_release_blocker:
Issue 124375: Active optional hyphens invisible for the NuevaStd font in
exported PDF
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124375

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Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-20 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/20/14 3:13 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/devbuilds.html
>> Development continues on trunk and completely new unrelated problems can
>> come up here.
> 
> I don't want to divert the discussion, but wouldn't it make sense to
> have daily builds both for AOO410 and for trunk? Sure, this means more
> effort and more resources, but even if a daily build only fixes those
> couple bugs that may have been approved as stoppers the day before, it's
> already quite useful to volunteers who don't build OpenOffice themselves.

sure that would make sense

> 
>> For the release only the aoo410 branch is relevant. Well I have moved
>> yesterday the SNAPSHOT tag on a proper version of the aoo410 branch and
>> the next snapshot build comes closer to what we want release. But the
>> SNAPSHOT build from the bots is Windows only.
> 
> OK, so we are starting to have Windows (and Linux, right?) builds that
> are intermediate steps between 4.1.0-Beta and 4.1.0. These do not
> require extra effort, and these are the ones that should be very visible
> to our volunteers and prospective volunteers if we want to get the
> maximum QA coverage.

no Linux from the bots, we have only a windows bot building the SNAPSHOT
as far as I know

Juergen

> 
>> I hope you see my point and we should first work on the basics.
> 
> I can edit the page to keep only builds that are from the AOO410 branch.
> Remember, I see this as a targeted effort to deliver great quality in
> 4.1.0. So I would make the page visible again when a new release is
> approaching, to show what we will have available at that time.
> 
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
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Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/devbuilds.html

Development continues on trunk and completely new unrelated problems can
come up here.


I don't want to divert the discussion, but wouldn't it make sense to 
have daily builds both for AOO410 and for trunk? Sure, this means more 
effort and more resources, but even if a daily build only fixes those 
couple bugs that may have been approved as stoppers the day before, it's 
already quite useful to volunteers who don't build OpenOffice themselves.



For the release only the aoo410 branch is relevant. Well I have moved
yesterday the SNAPSHOT tag on a proper version of the aoo410 branch and
the next snapshot build comes closer to what we want release. But the
SNAPSHOT build from the bots is Windows only.


OK, so we are starting to have Windows (and Linux, right?) builds that 
are intermediate steps between 4.1.0-Beta and 4.1.0. These do not 
require extra effort, and these are the ones that should be very visible 
to our volunteers and prospective volunteers if we want to get the 
maximum QA coverage.



I hope you see my point and we should first work on the basics.


I can edit the page to keep only builds that are from the AOO410 branch. 
Remember, I see this as a targeted effort to deliver great quality in 
4.1.0. So I would make the page visible again when a new release is 
approaching, to show what we will have available at that time.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-20 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/20/14 8:59 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> which builds exactly do you want to promote here and with what
>> explanation?
>> - build bots are fine, need no or only little explanation
>> - manually built snapshot/milestones
>> -- please no further page where entries have to be edited manually as
>> well
> 
> Whatever is useful to our community. Anyway, the draft is online at
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/devbuilds.html
> and I think it's rather clear if one reads all of it.

I have read it and I see not how it can help for the release. Feedback
on nightly builds from trunk does not help us really at the moment.
Development continues on trunk and completely new unrelated problems can
come up here.

For the release only the aoo410 branch is relevant. Well I have moved
yesterday the SNAPSHOT tag on a proper version of the aoo410 branch and
the next snapshot build comes closer to what we want release. But the
SNAPSHOT build from the bots is Windows only.

I hope you see my point and we should first work on the basics.

Juergen



> 
>> Again somebody should continue to work on build bots that are identical
>> with the build release machines that we can use this builds directly.
> 
> This is a unrelated problem, and does not apply to this release, even
> though I hope we can make some steps forward here too and indeed align
> the buildbots with the release baseline for a future release.
> 
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
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Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

which builds exactly do you want to promote here and with what explanation?
- build bots are fine, need no or only little explanation
- manually built snapshot/milestones
-- please no further page where entries have to be edited manually as well


Whatever is useful to our community. Anyway, the draft is online at
http://www.openoffice.org/download/devbuilds.html
and I think it's rather clear if one reads all of it.


Again somebody should continue to work on build bots that are identical
with the build release machines that we can use this builds directly.


This is a unrelated problem, and does not apply to this release, even 
though I hope we can make some steps forward here too and indeed align 
the buildbots with the release baseline for a future release.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [CWiki] Account Whitelisting

2014-03-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Sandhya Sivakumar wrote:

I have been volunteering in AOO in and out for a year.I wanted to add my
name to the list of volunteers.


Sure, please add it yourself, you now have the necessary rights and can 
edit pages. If you lost your CWiki password, you can get a new one at 
your hotmail.com address (at least, it seems that the CWiki account is 
linked to that one).


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-20 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/20/14 1:22 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> This means, normal users go to:
>> www.openoffice.org/download/
>> Power users, dev's, qa's, etc. should be pointed to:
>> openoffice.apache.org/developer-faqs.html
>> So, putting text from Andrea's webpage proposal into the webpage Kay has
>> found (again ;-) ) could be the golden way.
> 
> They are two improvements in two different directions. Both good (as it
> would be good to add text to the ci.apache.org page; some of us, but not
> me, do have access to it).
> 
> I see no reasons against doing both (pending resolution of the -1 by
> Dave; but I hope this can be withdrawn after the new explanations).

which builds exactly do you want to promote here and with what explanation?

- build bots are fine, need no or only little explanation
- manually built snapshot/milestones
-- please no further page where entries have to be edited manually as well

Again somebody should continue to work on build bots that are identical
with the build release machines that we can use this builds directly.

Different configuration switches can trigger release, beta or dev builds

Juergen

> 
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
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