Re: Summary

2015-03-14 Thread jan i 
On Saturday, March 14, 2015, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:

> He Clearly didn't read our disclaimer
> So he has no stand. And there is no agreement from our side about his
> confidentiality warning.
>
> I say in good fate we delete his email from our server and any additional
> inquiries to have them with the respective carriers like gmane.
> I will also suggest to add a warning on our subscription emails about
> dismiss any confidential statement

Well he might not read the email, byt it seems you did not read our policy,
that I povided a link to.

Apache nearly never changes the mail archives, simply because it does not
help anything. In this case the user is not even complaining about our nail
archive (which are private). "we" in this would be infra, and they follow
policy.

rgds
jan i



>  On Mar 14, 2015 5:41 PM, "Grampa Renato, GB" <
> renato.gra...@prysmiangroup.com > wrote:
>
> > Thank you Jan,
> >
> > European laws should protect me from the spread of my emails, differently
> > from US.
> >
> > Clearly I submitted my message in good faith to the recipient assuming
> > that it remained a bilateral correspondence only.
> > I haven't seen indications that the message would have been disseminated
> > to the World in this way, despite the confidentiality note.
> >
> > Nevertheless there must be a tool to discriminate emails from making them
> > public when inappropriate, like in this case.
> >
> > Thank you for any other suggestion you could provide
> > Renato
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Email sent via mobile service
> >
> > From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org ]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 07:12 PM
> > To: Grampa Renato, GB
> > Cc: jan i >; dev <
> dev@openoffice.apache.org >
> > Subject: Re: Summary
> >
> >
> >
> > On 14 March 2015 at 18:32, Grampa Renato, GB <
> > renato.gra...@prysmiangroup.com  renato.gra...@prysmiangroup.com >>
> > wrote:
> > Jan,
> > Thanks for the emails.
> > I’ll not comments the methods and the policies adopted by the owner.
> > I am not sure who you see as "owner".
> >
> > Apache has a public policy:
> > http://www.apache.org/foundation/public-archives.html
> >
> >
> > I just would like to find a way to remove my message from the web.
> > Who should I contact?
> > you should contact all mail archive owners who are subscribed to this
> list
> > (you found one of them, but there are many like e.g.
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openoffice.apache.org/ ).
> >
> > What’s the owner address?
> > There are NO owner, there are many and none of them are controlled by
> > apache. Apache merely receives your mail and redistributes it according
> to
> > the subscriber list (which on this list is around 500 addresses).
> >
> > What you need to do is search the web to see where you email appear,
> check
> > the URL with whois and write to these companies.
> >
> > Please do remember all those who have received your email is "intended
> > recipients".
> >
> > I can only advice to be careful when you write to a public mailing
> > address, it is practically impossible to remove a mail once it has being
> > multiplied.
> >
> > Rgds
> > jan i
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > RG
> >
> >
> > From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org  j...@apache.org >]
> > Sent: 14 March 2015 17:38
> > To: dev; Grampa Renato, GB
> > Subject: Summary
> >
> > Hi again
> > Now I have forwarded all mails to you on this thread.
> > As you can see the address you have mailed have many subscribers, who are
> > all indeed "intended recipients".
> > If you have a problem with the mail, you need to write to all mail
> > archives (which apache do not control), all personal subscribers (which
> > apache do not control) and ask all these entities to remove your mail.
> > Rgds
> > jan I.
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE
> >
> > This message and its attachments (if any) may contain confidential,
> > proprietary or legally privileged information and it for the use of the
> > intended recipient(s). No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost
> by
> > any incorrect transmission.
> >
> > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby
> > notified that you must not use, disseminate, copy it in any form or take
> > any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error,
> > please, delete it (and any copies of it) and kindly inform the sender of
> > this e-mail by replying or going to www.prysmiangroup.com<
> > http://www.prysmiangroup.com/> on "contact us".
> >
> > All liability for viruses is excluded to the fullest extent permitted by
> > law.
> >
> >
>


-- 
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Re: Summary

2015-03-14 Thread Andrew Pitonyak 
You sent an email to a public email list. If you do not like what a recipient 
does with it then you need to figure out how to make that recipient stop. Off 
hand that sounds like an impossible task; ever heard of the Streisand effect? 
You may be able to do this one recipient at a time, but you need to decide how 
much time and money you want to throw at it... But the more you do so the less 
likely it is to be effective.

On Mar 14, 2015 3:21 PM, "Grampa Renato, GB"  
wrote:
>
> Thank you Jan, 
>
> European laws should protect me from the spread of my emails, differently 
> from US. 
>
> Clearly I submitted my message in good faith to the recipient assuming that 
> it remained a bilateral correspondence only. 
> I haven't seen indications that the message would have been disseminated to 
> the World in this way, despite the confidentiality note. 
>
> Nevertheless there must be a tool to discriminate emails from making them 
> public when inappropriate, like in this case. 
>
> Thank you for any other suggestion you could provide 
> Renato 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Email sent via mobile service 
>
> From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] 
> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 07:12 PM 
> To: Grampa Renato, GB 
> Cc: jan i ; dev  
> Subject: Re: Summary 
>
>
>
> On 14 March 2015 at 18:32, Grampa Renato, GB 
> mailto:renato.gra...@prysmiangroup.com>> 
> wrote: 
> Jan, 
> Thanks for the emails. 
> I’ll not comments the methods and the policies adopted by the owner. 
> I am not sure who you see as "owner". 
>
> Apache has a public policy: 
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/public-archives.html 
>
>
> I just would like to find a way to remove my message from the web. 
> Who should I contact? 
> you should contact all mail archive owners who are subscribed to this list 
> (you found one of them, but there are many like e.g. 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openoffice.apache.org/ ). 
>
> What’s the owner address? 
> There are NO owner, there are many and none of them are controlled by apache. 
> Apache merely receives your mail and redistributes it according to the 
> subscriber list (which on this list is around 500 addresses). 
>
> What you need to do is search the web to see where you email appear, check 
> the URL with whois and write to these companies. 
>
> Please do remember all those who have received your email is "intended 
> recipients". 
>
> I can only advice to be careful when you write to a public mailing address, 
> it is practically impossible to remove a mail once it has being multiplied. 
>
> Rgds 
> jan i 
>
>
> Thanks 
> RG 
>
>
> From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] 
> Sent: 14 March 2015 17:38 
> To: dev; Grampa Renato, GB 
> Subject: Summary 
>
> Hi again 
> Now I have forwarded all mails to you on this thread. 
> As you can see the address you have mailed have many subscribers, who are all 
> indeed "intended recipients". 
> If you have a problem with the mail, you need to write to all mail archives 
> (which apache do not control), all personal subscribers (which apache do not 
> control) and ask all these entities to remove your mail. 
> Rgds 
> jan I. 
>
>
>
>  
>
>
> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE 
>
> This message and its attachments (if any) may contain confidential, 
> proprietary or legally privileged information and it for the use of the 
> intended recipient(s). No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by 
> any incorrect transmission. 
>
> If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified 
> that you must not use, disseminate, copy it in any form or take any action in 
> reliance on it. If you have received this message in error, please, delete it 
> (and any copies of it) and kindly inform the sender of this e-mail by 
> replying or going to www.prysmiangroup.com on 
> "contact us". 
>
> All liability for viruses is excluded to the fullest extent permitted by law. 
>

Re: Summary

2015-03-14 Thread Andrew Pitonyak 
Take a look at what wikipedia has to say. It looks like in the EU email 
disclaimers are useless. No idea how accurate that is.

On Mar 14, 2015 3:21 PM, "Grampa Renato, GB"  
wrote:
>
> Thank you Jan, 
>
> European laws should protect me from the spread of my emails, differently 
> from US. 
>
> Clearly I submitted my message in good faith to the recipient assuming that 
> it remained a bilateral correspondence only. 
> I haven't seen indications that the message would have been disseminated to 
> the World in this way, despite the confidentiality note. 
>
> Nevertheless there must be a tool to discriminate emails from making them 
> public when inappropriate, like in this case. 
>
> Thank you for any other suggestion you could provide 
> Renato 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Email sent via mobile service 
>
> From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] 
> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 07:12 PM 
> To: Grampa Renato, GB 
> Cc: jan i ; dev  
> Subject: Re: Summary 
>
>
>
> On 14 March 2015 at 18:32, Grampa Renato, GB 
> mailto:renato.gra...@prysmiangroup.com>> 
> wrote: 
> Jan, 
> Thanks for the emails. 
> I’ll not comments the methods and the policies adopted by the owner. 
> I am not sure who you see as "owner". 
>
> Apache has a public policy: 
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/public-archives.html 
>
>
> I just would like to find a way to remove my message from the web. 
> Who should I contact? 
> you should contact all mail archive owners who are subscribed to this list 
> (you found one of them, but there are many like e.g. 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openoffice.apache.org/ ). 
>
> What’s the owner address? 
> There are NO owner, there are many and none of them are controlled by apache. 
> Apache merely receives your mail and redistributes it according to the 
> subscriber list (which on this list is around 500 addresses). 
>
> What you need to do is search the web to see where you email appear, check 
> the URL with whois and write to these companies. 
>
> Please do remember all those who have received your email is "intended 
> recipients". 
>
> I can only advice to be careful when you write to a public mailing address, 
> it is practically impossible to remove a mail once it has being multiplied. 
>
> Rgds 
> jan i 
>
>
> Thanks 
> RG 
>
>
> From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] 
> Sent: 14 March 2015 17:38 
> To: dev; Grampa Renato, GB 
> Subject: Summary 
>
> Hi again 
> Now I have forwarded all mails to you on this thread. 
> As you can see the address you have mailed have many subscribers, who are all 
> indeed "intended recipients". 
> If you have a problem with the mail, you need to write to all mail archives 
> (which apache do not control), all personal subscribers (which apache do not 
> control) and ask all these entities to remove your mail. 
> Rgds 
> jan I. 
>
>
>
>  
>
>
> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE 
>
> This message and its attachments (if any) may contain confidential, 
> proprietary or legally privileged information and it for the use of the 
> intended recipient(s). No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by 
> any incorrect transmission. 
>
> If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified 
> that you must not use, disseminate, copy it in any form or take any action in 
> reliance on it. If you have received this message in error, please, delete it 
> (and any copies of it) and kindly inform the sender of this e-mail by 
> replying or going to www.prysmiangroup.com on 
> "contact us". 
>
> All liability for viruses is excluded to the fullest extent permitted by law. 
>

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Re: Summary

2015-03-14 Thread jonathon 
On 14/03/15 19:21, Grampa Renato, GB wrote:

> European laws should protect me from the spread of my emails, differently 
> from US.

That might help with archives in Europe, or organizations who have a
presence in Europe, and archives outside of Europe.

It won't help with archives outside of Europe, run by organizations with
no presence within Europe.

> Clearly I submitted my message in good faith to the recipient assuming that 
> it remained a bilateral correspondence only.

At this point, it is blatantly obvious that you had no idea who, or what
you were sending the message to. It is equally obvious that you still
have no idea what you are sending your messages to --- a mailing list
--- and who those recipients are --- people and organizations that are
scattered across the globe. At least one list-remailer is, or at least
used to be subscribed to this list, so a comprehensive list of who has,
in theory, if not in practice, a copy of your messages is going to be
fairly difficult to determine.

Some people are emailing you directly, because they figured that you
were not subscribed to the mailing list. Other people have not emailed
you directly, because they thought/assumed you were subscribed to the
mailing list. Regardless, that doesn't change the basic equation, which
is that email sent to a list, goes to _everybody_ that is subscribed to
the list. That includes bots that automatically archive the list
messages, and the bots that automatically forward messages to their list
subscribers, and the bots that automatically configure the messages for
a new-reader, and the other bots that do other probably unexpected, and
unanticipated things with email. (I don't think that any of the
MailingList2Twitter bots have found this mailing list, _yet_. The
operative word is "yet".)




(A couple of months ago, I read about an outfit that was trying to
integrate mailing-list, web-forum, and all of the various social media
networks into one setting, and have every message that originated in
one, to be blasted to the others, as fully threaded conversations.)

> I haven't seen indications that the message would have been disseminated to 
> the World in this way,

That is the way mailing lists work. Send to one address, and the
software there sends it to all the list subscribers.
Humans step in, only to "fix" something, if the software can't
automatically send the email to list subscribers.
Usually, but not always, that "fix" is to approve an email --- make sure
that it is not spam. Sometimes, but not always, the human looks at the
content, to ensure that the subject matter is related to the focus of
the list.

> despite the confidentiality note.

The "confidentiality boilerplate" is meaningless jargon. E-mail is the
functional equivalent of sending a post card through the post office.

> Nevertheless there must be a tool to discriminate emails from making them 
> public when inappropriate, like in this case.

Just how is anybody supposed to know that it is inappropriate to
distribute an email submitted to a public list, when the content of the
message is congruent with the focus of the list?

> Thank you for any other suggestion you could provide

Are you familiar with _The Streisand Effect_?  If not, I strongly
suggest that you familiarize yourself with it.

I currently see four messages from you, this month. All of those will be
archived by the same outfits that archived the one you are requesting
removal of.

jonathon



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Re: Summary

2015-03-14 Thread Alexandro Colorado 
He Clearly didn't read our disclaimer
So he has no stand. And there is no agreement from our side about his
confidentiality warning.

I say in good fate we delete his email from our server and any additional
inquiries to have them with the respective carriers like gmane.
I will also suggest to add a warning on our subscription emails about
dismiss any confidential statement
 On Mar 14, 2015 5:41 PM, "Grampa Renato, GB" <
renato.gra...@prysmiangroup.com> wrote:

> Thank you Jan,
>
> European laws should protect me from the spread of my emails, differently
> from US.
>
> Clearly I submitted my message in good faith to the recipient assuming
> that it remained a bilateral correspondence only.
> I haven't seen indications that the message would have been disseminated
> to the World in this way, despite the confidentiality note.
>
> Nevertheless there must be a tool to discriminate emails from making them
> public when inappropriate, like in this case.
>
> Thank you for any other suggestion you could provide
> Renato
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Email sent via mobile service
>
> From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org]
> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 07:12 PM
> To: Grampa Renato, GB
> Cc: jan i ; dev 
> Subject: Re: Summary
>
>
>
> On 14 March 2015 at 18:32, Grampa Renato, GB <
> renato.gra...@prysmiangroup.com>
> wrote:
> Jan,
> Thanks for the emails.
> I’ll not comments the methods and the policies adopted by the owner.
> I am not sure who you see as "owner".
>
> Apache has a public policy:
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/public-archives.html
>
>
> I just would like to find a way to remove my message from the web.
> Who should I contact?
> you should contact all mail archive owners who are subscribed to this list
> (you found one of them, but there are many like e.g.
> http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openoffice.apache.org/ ).
>
> What’s the owner address?
> There are NO owner, there are many and none of them are controlled by
> apache. Apache merely receives your mail and redistributes it according to
> the subscriber list (which on this list is around 500 addresses).
>
> What you need to do is search the web to see where you email appear, check
> the URL with whois and write to these companies.
>
> Please do remember all those who have received your email is "intended
> recipients".
>
> I can only advice to be careful when you write to a public mailing
> address, it is practically impossible to remove a mail once it has being
> multiplied.
>
> Rgds
> jan i
>
>
> Thanks
> RG
>
>
> From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org]
> Sent: 14 March 2015 17:38
> To: dev; Grampa Renato, GB
> Subject: Summary
>
> Hi again
> Now I have forwarded all mails to you on this thread.
> As you can see the address you have mailed have many subscribers, who are
> all indeed "intended recipients".
> If you have a problem with the mail, you need to write to all mail
> archives (which apache do not control), all personal subscribers (which
> apache do not control) and ask all these entities to remove your mail.
> Rgds
> jan I.
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE
>
> This message and its attachments (if any) may contain confidential,
> proprietary or legally privileged information and it for the use of the
> intended recipient(s). No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by
> any incorrect transmission.
>
> If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby
> notified that you must not use, disseminate, copy it in any form or take
> any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error,
> please, delete it (and any copies of it) and kindly inform the sender of
> this e-mail by replying or going to www.prysmiangroup.com<
> http://www.prysmiangroup.com/> on "contact us".
>
> All liability for viruses is excluded to the fullest extent permitted by
> law.
>
>

Re: Summary

2015-03-14 Thread Grampa Renato, GB 
Thank you Jan,

European laws should protect me from the spread of my emails, differently from 
US.

Clearly I submitted my message in good faith to the recipient assuming that it 
remained a bilateral correspondence only.
I haven't seen indications that the message would have been disseminated to the 
World in this way, despite the confidentiality note.

Nevertheless there must be a tool to discriminate emails from making them 
public when inappropriate, like in this case.

Thank you for any other suggestion you could provide
Renato







Email sent via mobile service

From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org]
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 07:12 PM
To: Grampa Renato, GB
Cc: jan i ; dev 
Subject: Re: Summary



On 14 March 2015 at 18:32, Grampa Renato, GB 
mailto:renato.gra...@prysmiangroup.com>> wrote:
Jan,
Thanks for the emails.
I’ll not comments the methods and the policies adopted by the owner.
I am not sure who you see as "owner".

Apache has a public policy:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/public-archives.html


I just would like to find a way to remove my message from the web.
Who should I contact?
you should contact all mail archive owners who are subscribed to this list (you 
found one of them, but there are many like e.g. 
http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openoffice.apache.org/ ).

What’s the owner address?
There are NO owner, there are many and none of them are controlled by apache. 
Apache merely receives your mail and redistributes it according to the 
subscriber list (which on this list is around 500 addresses).

What you need to do is search the web to see where you email appear, check the 
URL with whois and write to these companies.

Please do remember all those who have received your email is "intended 
recipients".

I can only advice to be careful when you write to a public mailing address, it 
is practically impossible to remove a mail once it has being multiplied.

Rgds
jan i


Thanks
RG


From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org]
Sent: 14 March 2015 17:38
To: dev; Grampa Renato, GB
Subject: Summary

Hi again
Now I have forwarded all mails to you on this thread.
As you can see the address you have mailed have many subscribers, who are all 
indeed "intended recipients".
If you have a problem with the mail, you need to write to all mail archives 
(which apache do not control), all personal subscribers (which apache do not 
control) and ask all these entities to remove your mail.
Rgds
jan I.






CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE

This message and its attachments (if any) may contain confidential, proprietary 
or legally privileged information and it for the use of the intended 
recipient(s). No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any 
incorrect transmission.

If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified 
that you must not use, disseminate, copy it in any form or take any action in 
reliance on it. If you have received this message in error, please, delete it 
(and any copies of it) and kindly inform the sender of this e-mail by replying 
or going to www.prysmiangroup.com on "contact 
us".

All liability for viruses is excluded to the fullest extent permitted by law.

Re: Need help on bookmark writter

2015-03-14 Thread Howard Morris (aka Col Boogie) 
Sorry all, I have been out of town.
From what I read on some of the requests, is that you want for different 
users to enter the document at different points.  I am assuming you are 
converting the document to html. The way to do that is to give an ‘id’ to every 
entry point. So George Goble world use demo.html#George_Goble and Betty Grable 
would use demo.html#Betty_Grable, etc. I have my own javascript that can add a 
table of contents to an html document. I am also working on an upgrade of the 
Open Office outputting an html file which I can try putting in that code when I 
detect a table of contents in the original document.

Howard Morris

RE: Some old OOo SVN dumps, of use to anyone?

2015-03-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton 
I received the SDCard with the 150GB SVN dump from Rob in yesterday's postal 
delivery.
 
Herbert Duerr has also provided some tips on using the Zipped git repo that he 
created.

I will set up a notebook for keeping track of everything I (attempt to) do.  It 
will be interesting to watch that SVN dump load into a local FSFS SVN that I 
will create.

I am taking my time and will probably not have any further report until the end 
of April.

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Rob Weir [mailto:r...@robweir.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 11:09
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Spam (8.03):Re: Some old OOo SVN dumps, of use to anyone?

On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 4:55 AM, Thorsten Behrens
 wrote:
> Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Simon Phipps  wrote:
>> > I agree with this -- it's history for every derivative of OO.o, not just
>> > AOO.
[ ... ]
>
> sharing the responsibility for preserving the code history of the
> former OpenOffice.org project, TDF would be happy to help keeping
> those legacy repos publicly available for posterity.
>
> It is indeed of great help for ongoing development, to be able to
> re-trace the history of individual code changes.
>

This is good to know.  We have now several offers to host/preserve the
data.  First step, for me at least, is to get a copy of the dump of to
Dennis.   He's volunteered to take a closer look and compare to what
Herbert has.   If it ends up what I have is important then we can
discuss the best way to distribute it further.

[ ... ]


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RE: Summary

2015-03-14 Thread Grampa Renato, GB 
Jan,
Thanks for the emails.
I’ll not comments the methods and the policies adopted by the owner.

I just would like to find a way to remove my message from the web.
Who should I contact?
What’s the owner address?

Thanks
RG


From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org]
Sent: 14 March 2015 17:38
To: dev; Grampa Renato, GB
Subject: Summary

Hi again
Now I have forwarded all mails to you on this thread.
As you can see the address you have mailed have many subscribers, who are all 
indeed "intended recipients".
If you have a problem with the mail, you need to write to all mail archives 
(which apache do not control), all personal subscribers (which apache do not 
control) and ask all these entities to remove your mail.
Rgds
jan I.






CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE

This message and its attachments (if any) may contain confidential, proprietary 
or legally privileged information and it for the use of the intended 
recipient(s). No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any 
incorrect transmission.

If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified 
that you must not use, disseminate, copy it in any form or take any action in 
reliance on it. If you have received this message in error, please, delete it 
(and any copies of it) and kindly inform the sender of this e-mail by replying 
or going to www.prysmiangroup.com on "contact 
us".

All liability for viruses is excluded to the fullest extent permitted by law.

Re: Summary

2015-03-14 Thread jan i 
On 14 March 2015 at 18:32, Grampa Renato, GB <
renato.gra...@prysmiangroup.com> wrote:

>   Jan,
>
> Thanks for the emails.
>
> I’ll not comments the methods and the policies adopted by the owner.
>
I am not sure who you see as "owner".

Apache has a public policy:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/public-archives.html


>
> I just would like to find a way to remove my message from the web.
>
> Who should I contact?
>
you should contact all mail archive owners who are subscribed to this list
(you found one of them, but there are many like e.g.
http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openoffice.apache.org/ ).


>  What’s the owner address?
>
There are NO owner, there are many and none of them are controlled by
apache. Apache merely receives your mail and redistributes it according to
the subscriber list (which on this list is around 500 addresses).

What you need to do is search the web to see where you email appear, check
the URL with whois and write to these companies.

Please do remember all those who have received your email is "intended
recipients".

I can only advice to be careful when you write to a public mailing address,
it is practically impossible to remove a mail once it has being multiplied.

Rgds
jan i


>
>
> Thanks
>
> RG
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org]
> *Sent:* 14 March 2015 17:38
> *To:* dev; Grampa Renato, GB
> *Subject:* Summary
>
>
>
> Hi again
>
> Now I have forwarded all mails to you on this thread.
>
> As you can see the address you have mailed have many subscribers, who are
> all indeed "intended recipients".
>
> If you have a problem with the mail, you need to write to all mail
> archives (which apache do not control), all personal subscribers (which
> apache do not control) and ask all these entities to remove your mail.
>
> Rgds
>
> jan I.
>
>
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Re: Aranese spell checker

2015-03-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti 

On 07/03/2015 Javier wrote:

My name is Javier Torres and I am working in a spell aranese spell checker
http://www.occitans.com/archivos/programas/aranes_v1.0.0_alfa.oxt but I have a litle 
problem the language "Aranese" is not included in the language list.
Can anybody help me?


OpenOffice has a hardcoded list of supported languages (to be clear: 
those are the languages that you can use as document languages in Format 
- Character).


Document languages, due to interoperability concerns, are not something 
we can define freely on our own.


Does Aranese have a ISO 639-1, ISO 639-2 or ISO 639-3 code? I find 
conflicting information online. If it does have an ISO code, we can 
include it as a document language in the next release (and your 
dictionary will work in future versions of OpenOffice). Otherwise there 
are kludges and workarounds that can be applied, but it's better if you 
can provide an ISO code.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Open Office Writer Problems

2015-03-14 Thread Hagar Delest 

Forwarded to non-subscribed OP.

Hagar


Le 09/03/2015 10:12, FR web forum a écrit :

A very large proportion of spellcheck problems in OpenOffice are cured by
deleting or renaming the User Profile.
Details about it are given in:
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=12426

If this does not work, please bring your problem at the support Forum first.

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De: "Joe Stewart" 
À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Envoyé: Samedi 7 Mars 2015 15:27:42
Objet: Open Office Writer Problems

Hi,
I have used Open Office 4.1.1 for a long time without any problems. However it 
is misbehaving on two fronts.
1. The spell check is not checking misspelled words but is checking every word 
and not suggesting any solutions.
2. When I type the word th e the auto correct changes the word to to.
Any suggestions.
Joe Stewart 

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Summary

2015-03-14 Thread jan i 
Hi again

Now I have forwarded all mails to you on this thread.

As you can see the address you have mailed have many subscribers, who are
all indeed "intended recipients".

If you have a problem with the mail, you need to write to all mail archives
(which apache do not control), all personal subscribers (which apache do
not control) and ask all these entities to remove your mail.

Rgds
jan I.

Fwd: Breach of confidentiality

2015-03-14 Thread jan i 
Seems you have missed most of the mails on this thread, so now I will
forward them all to you.

Just by reading the replied it should be clear to you, that when writing to
a public mailing list, mails are in fact public.

As you yourself write "it for the use of the intended recipient(s)" and
nothing else has happened here. The mailing archive you refer to are
subscribed to the list, and therefore an "intended recipent".

Rgds
jan I.

Ps. info to dev@ I do not copy dev@ on the following mails but only forward
directly to Renato.



-- Forwarded message --
From: jan i 
Date: 11 March 2015 at 20:02
Subject: Re: Breach of confidentiality
To: dev 




On 11 March 2015 at 19:38, Grampa Renato, GB <
renato.gra...@prysmiangroup.com> wrote:

> Sirs,
>
> You have made public one of my message without my authorization.
>
Actually we (being the Apache Software Foundation) have not made anything
public. You write (and worte) to a public mailing list, that automatically
distribute your mail to all subscribers of that list as per normal policy.

Some of the subscribers are Mail archive servers, which we do not own nor
control. You list one example of such a server.


>
> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.openoffice.devel/18648
>
> I highlight that the message contained a Confidentiality Notice that you
> have deliberately and blatantly breached.
>
> You are put on notice that intend to take legal actions against your
> organisation for this issue and for all direct and indirect damages you
> have caused.
>
We take due note of your statement, and advice you to write to the owners
of the mailing list archives instead.

>
> I ask you to remove immediately the message from the web and cancel it
> from your records by c.o.b. 16 March 2015.
>
You need to contact the mail archive owner, you mail was, in full
accordance with normal mailing list policy, sent to all subscribers.


Rgds
jan i.

>
> I await your confirmation before the above deadline.
>
> regards
> Renato Grampa
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
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Re: Fwd: Re: Breach of confidentiality

2015-03-14 Thread Max Merbald 

Renato,

the mail address to which you wrote is that of a mailinglist which can
be subscribed, and the mails written to this mailinglist are sent to the
people who subscribed to the list. Also, the mails are archived online.
Maybe you should have done a bit of research before yelling at the list
or even before writing to it. The Openoffice folks responsible for the
list did not do anything wrong. So why should they have to "proceed" in
any way? It was your mistake, not theirs.

Max

(sorry, I've got to send this mail via another mail address  as both 
Renato's mail server as well as that of the mailinglist seem to think 
that the IP of my SMTP mail server has ended up on a spam list which is 
VERY inconvenient)


Am 14.03.2015 um 12:47 schrieb Grampa Renato, GB:

Thank you Hagar,

I'm not sure what you mean exactly with subscription to a lest and how this 
could help in removing my messages from the web.

Please clarify how you guys intend to proceed.

Thank you
Renato Grampa

Email sent via mobile service

From: Hagar Delest [mailto:hagar.del...@laposte.net]
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 11:59 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org 
Cc: Grampa Renato, GB
Subject: Fwd: Re: Breach of confidentiality

Forwarded to OP.
Renato, you're not subscribed to the list, you may have missed other replies.

Hagar


 Message transféré 
Sujet : Re: Breach of confidentiality
Date :  Wed, 11 Mar 2015 20:02:52 +0100
De :jan i 
Répondre à :dev@openoffice.apache.org
Pour :  dev 



On 11 March 2015 at 19:38, Grampa Renato, GB <
renato.gra...@prysmiangroup.com> wrote:


Sirs,

You have made public one of my message without my authorization.


Actually we (being the Apache Software Foundation) have not made anything
public. You write (and worte) to a public mailing list, that automatically
distribute your mail to all subscribers of that list as per normal policy.

Some of the subscribers are Mail archive servers, which we do not own nor
control. You list one example of such a server.



http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.openoffice.devel/18648

I highlight that the message contained a Confidentiality Notice that you
have deliberately and blatantly breached.

You are put on notice that intend to take legal actions against your
organisation for this issue and for all direct and indirect damages you
have caused.


We take due note of your statement, and advice you to write to the owners
of the mailing list archives instead.


I ask you to remove immediately the message from the web and cancel it
from your records by c.o.b. 16 March 2015.


You need to contact the mail archive owner, you mail was, in full
accordance with normal mailing list policy, sent to all subscribers.


Rgds
jan i.


I await your confirmation before the above deadline.

regards
Renato Grampa







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Re: Fwd: Re: Breach of confidentiality

2015-03-14 Thread Grampa Renato, GB 
Thank you Hagar,

I'm not sure what you mean exactly with subscription to a lest and how this 
could help in removing my messages from the web.

Please clarify how you guys intend to proceed.

Thank you
Renato Grampa

Email sent via mobile service

From: Hagar Delest [mailto:hagar.del...@laposte.net]
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 11:59 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org 
Cc: Grampa Renato, GB
Subject: Fwd: Re: Breach of confidentiality

Forwarded to OP.
Renato, you're not subscribed to the list, you may have missed other replies.

Hagar


 Message transféré 
Sujet : Re: Breach of confidentiality
Date :  Wed, 11 Mar 2015 20:02:52 +0100
De :jan i 
Répondre à :dev@openoffice.apache.org
Pour :  dev 



On 11 March 2015 at 19:38, Grampa Renato, GB <
renato.gra...@prysmiangroup.com> wrote:

> Sirs,
>
> You have made public one of my message without my authorization.
>
Actually we (being the Apache Software Foundation) have not made anything
public. You write (and worte) to a public mailing list, that automatically
distribute your mail to all subscribers of that list as per normal policy.

Some of the subscribers are Mail archive servers, which we do not own nor
control. You list one example of such a server.


>
> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.openoffice.devel/18648
>
> I highlight that the message contained a Confidentiality Notice that you
> have deliberately and blatantly breached.
>
> You are put on notice that intend to take legal actions against your
> organisation for this issue and for all direct and indirect damages you
> have caused.
>
We take due note of your statement, and advice you to write to the owners
of the mailing list archives instead.

>
> I ask you to remove immediately the message from the web and cancel it
> from your records by c.o.b. 16 March 2015.
>
You need to contact the mail archive owner, you mail was, in full
accordance with normal mailing list policy, sent to all subscribers.


Rgds
jan i.

>
> I await your confirmation before the above deadline.
>
> regards
> Renato Grampa
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
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>
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> www.prysmiangroup.com<
> http://www.prysmiangroup.com/> on "contact us".
>
> All liability for viruses is excluded to the fullest extent permitted by
> law.
>










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Re: Office Application BoF @ OSTC, Beijing 2015/3/28

2015-03-14 Thread imacat 
Dear Peter,

Peter Junge on 2015/03/14 15:50 said:
> Hi Imacat,
> thanks a lot for proposing the Office Apps BoF. You can certainly count
> me in. Is the venue and time finally confirmed yet? I would also like to
> announce the BoF on the Beijing LUG website because some people who are
> or were involved in AOO, LO, OOo and RedOffice are frequently checking it.

Yes, it's confirmed.  The time is 12:20-13:40 and the venue is the
speaker's lunch room.  The staff in OSTC will announce it in the
conference, too.  Ross shall join us.  Please help us announce it at
BLUG and encourage BLUG members to come.  Many thanks. ^_^

> 
> /Peter
> 
> On 12/03/15 19:16, imacat wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>>  Is there anybody that will attend to OSTC 2015, Beijing at the end
>> of this month (3/28)?
>>
>>  I would like to call for a BoF on Office Application at the noon of
>> OSTC.  We may have some talks and know each other, and have some small
>> discussion about the development of OpenOffice in the future.  Ross
>> Gardler, one of the board of directors of ASF, will join us in the
>> event.  And we are still asking for more guests, maybe from MS OOXML.
>> So if you are interested in the development of OpenOffice, or simply
>> want to know more friends in the community, please reply and let us know
>> so we can arrange the venue. ^_^
>>
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Re: [CWiki] Account Whitelisting

2015-03-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti 

On 13/03/2015 nisha murali wrote:

My username : nisha.murali103My name: Nisha Murali
Request you to kindly whitelist my account. Regards,Nisha Murali


Welcome! Whitelisted.

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Re: Office Application BoF @ OSTC, Beijing 2015/3/28

2015-03-14 Thread Peter Junge 

Hi Imacat,

thanks a lot for proposing the Office Apps BoF. You can certainly count 
me in. Is the venue and time finally confirmed yet? I would also like to 
announce the BoF on the Beijing LUG website because some people who are 
or were involved in AOO, LO, OOo and RedOffice are frequently checking it.


/Peter

On 12/03/15 19:16, imacat wrote:

Dear all,

 Is there anybody that will attend to OSTC 2015, Beijing at the end
of this month (3/28)?

 I would like to call for a BoF on Office Application at the noon of
OSTC.  We may have some talks and know each other, and have some small
discussion about the development of OpenOffice in the future.  Ross
Gardler, one of the board of directors of ASF, will join us in the
event.  And we are still asking for more guests, maybe from MS OOXML.
So if you are interested in the development of OpenOffice, or simply
want to know more friends in the community, please reply and let us know
so we can arrange the venue. ^_^



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