Broken Download Link
Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64bit Build 10586 Problem Description: Download link takes me to sourceforge, which then takes me to the mirror redirect, which takes me to the sourceforge "Please wait 5 seconds for download to start" page, which sends me back to the mirror redirect in a loop. Copied data: *Problem description* *Exchange this text to describe the problem (What does not work? What do you expect?)**Browser variables**Values*navigator.appCodeName Mozillanavigator.appName Netscapenavigator.appVersion 5.0 (Windows)navigator.platform Win32navigator.oscpu Windows NT 10.0; WOW64navigator.cpuClass undefinednavigator.product Geckonavigator.productSub 20100101navigator.vendor navigator.vendorSub navigator.language en-USnavigator.browserLanguage undefinednavigator.userLanguage undefinednavigator.systemLanguage undefinednavigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0Debian / Ubuntu / IceWeasel ?No / No / No*Stable Release* *JavaScript functions/variables**Values*Language ISO code en-USLanguage ISO code (from select box) en-USRelease matrix platform position (full) 11Release matrix platform position (lp) 12Release matrix platform array data y,134Release matrix language array data en-US,English (US),English (US),y,download/index.htmlUI platform name Windows (EXE)UI platform name (not supported) Platform (short) win32URL platform name (full) Win_x86_installURL platform name (lp) Win_x86_langpackURL platform name (from select box) win32Version (from select box) 4.1.2File name (full) Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.2_Win_x86_install_en-US.exeFile name (lp) Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.2_Win_x86_langpack_en-US.exeFile extension .exeFile size (full) (MByte) 134File size (lp) (MByte) 18Release info Milestone AOO412m3 | Build ID 9782 | SVN r1709699 | Released 2015-10-28Download file link (full) http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.2/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.2_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe/downloadDownload file link (lp) http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.2/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.2_Win_x86_langpack_en-US.exe/downloadChecksum file link (full) (here for MD5) http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.2/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.2_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe.md5Checksum file link (lp) (here for MD5) http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.2/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.2_Win_x86_langpack_en-US.exe.md5Base URL to Sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.2/binaries/Base URL to Apache Archive http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.2getLinkSelection() (download URL) undefinedisLanguageSupported() (true/false) ? trueShow the sub-box (true/false) ? trueGeneral error (true/false) ? false
Re: Basic editor and key-words
Hello FR web, When I write a Basic program, some words are blue to show me that are reserved. But much are missing and display in green (like LBound or UBound). Where these key-words are stored? There is a difference between reserved words and (predefined) function names. This belongs to ALL programming languages. -- Option Explicit Sub Main Dim lBound As Integer Dim uBound As Integer lBound = 0 uBound = 2 Dim a( lBound To uBound ) As Integer Dim i As Integer For i = lBound To uBound a( i ) = 10 * i + 5 Next i For i = LBound( a ) To UBound( a ) print a( i ), Next i End Sub -- LBound and UBound are not reserved words. Regards, Mathias - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.
Are you sure "Spell checker does not work" is the most appropriate title for this problem? On 12/30/2015 2:41 PM, Marcus wrote: Maybe you both haven't seen my previous mail in this thread yet. Therefore here an explicit pointer to the new issue: ;-) https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126762 Marcus Am 12/30/2015 11:15 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: Thanks for the information. Please consider adding it to the appropriate Bugzilla issue, once we have one set up. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.
Maybe you both haven't seen my previous mail in this thread yet. Therefore here an explicit pointer to the new issue: ;-) https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126762 Marcus Am 12/30/2015 11:15 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: Thanks for the information. Please consider adding it to the appropriate Bugzilla issue, once we have one set up. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.
Thanks for the information. Please consider adding it to the appropriate Bugzilla issue, once we have one set up. Fortunately, the current objective is to fix the bug, not recreate it. Recreating a bug is a very desirable and useful tool towards fixing it, but not always essential. Sometimes it is easier to fix a bug that is hard to reproduce by a combination of collecting problem reports and code analysis. This **may** be one of those cases. How completely have the dangerous features been disabled? It looks to me as though the user can still turn them on. Patricia On 12/30/2015 11:33 AM, toki wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 30/12/2015 02:33, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Is there a Bugzilla # on this? I don't know. I've forgotten who told me about it, but the consensus was that it was easier to work around it, by ensuring that both "Save AutoReceovery Information" and "Always create backup copy" are unchecked, than trying to recreate the situation in which the bug is usually triggered. jonathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWhDF2AAoJEKG7hs8nSMR77fAP/iqhGVetlkFWcWU+Nqn6sty0 7q9kjQo6LQLVSTcXJKwM1yfjRm/UvDY+lt8XpNMRVyH4iOw2Su9cGvcV3nkperMv z8f3JmfUZJsBtqmwDAa3U8kcF8/C1wpWHPVeF3TK750kzGTdij5zAi/yQ2CwiiPi VpiTyLRsq34ICaXyxnbaTWVm8it+p7AOlC5cnXH/sqUeiHNJj/M6zu3xp1zeG5gM co4xcg8JUIjoUFyBJhGzWeWb4B9zBtNT69GfsZ0u6lRzxQGLZQ2tAtNAGzwi/dzr qMOGN/UVjx3b86DjbIJ6a1WmfUUeM5TIbyLhUPAP5apQJpkcH2NRvYDitQJeRz2d sg/SUmFPCAunUYlnie+JYilMdvbCGOXctzseU1QgWJcA0dMf/daWjRcgaSmmNPvr wdz1Zkx6QnwVhOzO6dGgTqvwoaRMH1mcavnxqHlDXdzPDci/jXh35GJjPV76J968 XtzbPohFPkQRrRkkBb6s2fslbBqscbJWdX0h5iQB2MlL4VcXLi9ZuErJK9nHbTq2 33dUg6qpgVT+HAvsTAiJXpV4PsJ6r61Ey2hYZnnKlhayOvXXZZ3P3UjndFE+4Lw1 GkYkQ/5KNB7+Nn++jTnMgIbNUskUU2XyBNZu/isEukEougDdl7bkDw+7XaVyPwwH gpCNrokVzlW/Hw10oPPg =uGdG -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Building on WIndows, revisited
My progress got stopped by a combination of Christmas preparations, work towards an Apache River release, and extreme discouragement. Each time I solved a problem, another one cropped up, and I was not confident in all the decisions I had made along the way. I expect to have more time for OO over the next few months. I think a clean, repeatable build process would be very useful in attracting and keeping developers. I have Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 installations, as well as a couple of Linux boxes, so along with your Windows 10 we should be able to cover most of the ground. Before we get too deeply into this, I would like to understand why we are using a 32-bit Cygwin-based process. On 12/30/2015 1:48 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Patricia, I've been meaning to ping you about progress on building AOO on Windows. As much as I don't want to go through the whole POSIX/Cygwin route and also find a way to use Visual Studio Express 2008 on my Windows 10 system (which is already dedicated to Visual Studio 2015 Community Edition), I think this is acute in order to find a better way to build native code on Windows for Windows and smooth the on-ramp for new developers. I am willing to do that, but I need buddies to work through it with. I do document and trouble-shoot well. What can we do together to get a clean, repeatable build process that can then be improved? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 19:45 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy. +1 This may be a good project for me to participate in, along with people who know AOO internals. I have a lot of practical experience with tracking down and fixing extremely obscure intermittent bugs in operating systems and prototypes of cache coherent multiprocessor servers, so I'm not scared of them. Now getting AOO to build on Windows 8.1.. Patricia [ ... ] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Building on WIndows, revisited
Patricia, I've been meaning to ping you about progress on building AOO on Windows. As much as I don't want to go through the whole POSIX/Cygwin route and also find a way to use Visual Studio Express 2008 on my Windows 10 system (which is already dedicated to Visual Studio 2015 Community Edition), I think this is acute in order to find a better way to build native code on Windows for Windows and smooth the on-ramp for new developers. I am willing to do that, but I need buddies to work through it with. I do document and trouble-shoot well. What can we do together to get a clean, repeatable build process that can then be improved? - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 19:45 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto > backup copy. > > +1 > > This may be a good project for me to participate in, along with people > who know AOO internals. I have a lot of practical experience with > tracking down and fixing extremely obscure intermittent bugs in > operating systems and prototypes of cache coherent multiprocessor > servers, so I'm not scared of them. > > Now getting AOO to build on Windows 8.1.. > > Patricia > [ ... ] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 30/12/2015 02:33, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Is there a Bugzilla # on this? I don't know. I've forgotten who told me about it, but the consensus was that it was easier to work around it, by ensuring that both "Save AutoReceovery Information" and "Always create backup copy" are unchecked, than trying to recreate the situation in which the bug is usually triggered. jonathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWhDF2AAoJEKG7hs8nSMR77fAP/iqhGVetlkFWcWU+Nqn6sty0 7q9kjQo6LQLVSTcXJKwM1yfjRm/UvDY+lt8XpNMRVyH4iOw2Su9cGvcV3nkperMv z8f3JmfUZJsBtqmwDAa3U8kcF8/C1wpWHPVeF3TK750kzGTdij5zAi/yQ2CwiiPi VpiTyLRsq34ICaXyxnbaTWVm8it+p7AOlC5cnXH/sqUeiHNJj/M6zu3xp1zeG5gM co4xcg8JUIjoUFyBJhGzWeWb4B9zBtNT69GfsZ0u6lRzxQGLZQ2tAtNAGzwi/dzr qMOGN/UVjx3b86DjbIJ6a1WmfUUeM5TIbyLhUPAP5apQJpkcH2NRvYDitQJeRz2d sg/SUmFPCAunUYlnie+JYilMdvbCGOXctzseU1QgWJcA0dMf/daWjRcgaSmmNPvr wdz1Zkx6QnwVhOzO6dGgTqvwoaRMH1mcavnxqHlDXdzPDci/jXh35GJjPV76J968 XtzbPohFPkQRrRkkBb6s2fslbBqscbJWdX0h5iQB2MlL4VcXLi9ZuErJK9nHbTq2 33dUg6qpgVT+HAvsTAiJXpV4PsJ6r61Ey2hYZnnKlhayOvXXZZ3P3UjndFE+4Lw1 GkYkQ/5KNB7+Nn++jTnMgIbNUskUU2XyBNZu/isEukEougDdl7bkDw+7XaVyPwwH gpCNrokVzlW/Hw10oPPg =uGdG -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Spellcheck and backup problems [was: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 30/12/2015 16:59, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > If not, it could cause an automatic installation of a reduced mode/pri vate SVN installation, which would maintain backups of previous versions of the OO data files in use. My suggestion would be to add that functionality to OOSVN. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/ooosvn. For most use-cases, I'm not convinced that SVN is an appropriate standard backup. What I am convinced of, is that configuring, and using SVN is beyond the skill set of the majority of AOO users. jonathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWhC/CAAoJEKG7hs8nSMR7TK0P/AzwPGVJHKcD8TRcMePP1LBb 6j8r0mMLIvZEP/+D/wJf5wFrjGJxkDyIxtv0G4u3Ru4cLD2u9jf9d2sqposbXbxx lCBnq6za4pmlxT1+itiI3tY+F91boEIdEx/6Z9gep1f71QV6w8EuLRiMMn7Itj+V h+uL4Hitvr9BbQXd0A2MBaJ02cqsKb5IWMbiuBP2ibHG3Zixm+0M5O1/b+kM671U 5wC4RSxvJ+cUREZQbnRsjJa2ftHjHMR5IdTAoii8j1k24QyI5MjXvoXZKp1asehm SpB4qeRcGSJvu63E0Yn+IsGttOyf4a0NCmgnAZUeeJjPu/FSQiscyLSGvJORLwY1 ddCNQB9HDmQSegLfN0DF8IJVGNrUFFDjSD4kusiw/dZEMkYx7Ti3H/ZpLhOmAMH2 bGAS/VY6/YK1qUliG2JYQ+jKZlxjmLnLqZQZnRkwvk06EamekeezRTs/4C0wrfpP +ygKajFiNtIbpHxXd7hjjeGGZ/1KjeOQrAqkZj+VbDsadHN9O+RSyIYB5UEhtBnZ aqQkl1Tu5y/CAwX2djFfs+axaPGy20VqHw2t0reZtG4Sm7Tl9CkbOkzGye9bIAmf JTvlDFiUN3oek3ij7FX/HRROShl5E2pwezEJtxIeJyattAK4xQKtGI6m8EEUG9ri l1QA++mpV91jd1eJEq/0 =ZhIJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Spellcheck and backup problems [was: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.
I want to re-emphasize that there is a difference between creating a backup and performing automatic periodic backups (which for speed, are often into an auto-backup/-recovery format somewhere). We need to dig into this and also not that, usually, creating a backup is trivial and easy to tell when it fails (since it is typically by renaming the original once it is clear that the loaded original is being edited if not sooner). This can also allow locking to be handled better. Meanwhile, I am heartened by the excitement that is arising around these particularly-nasty usability issues. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie] > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 09:00 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Spellcheck and backup problems [was: Complaint Writer lost 36 > pages of my document with no auto backup copy. > > I have retitled this thread as it has developed to reflect more general > OO problems, arising from a user difficulty. > > One matter we are discussing is backup. the "automatic backup" link is > disabled by default. This may have been logical in days when disk space > was limited, but with modern giga/terabyte drives that no longer seems > a valid consideration. > > Blue sky thinking: Subversion/SVN backup is an Apache project. Would it > be possible to make future OO releases use this for backup. On > installation, OO could probe for an existing SVN setup and chain into > that if found. If not, it could cause an automatic installation of a > reduced mode/private SVN installation, which would maintain backups of > previous versions of the OO data files in use. (I have used SVN but at > an elementary level - as used in University of Bremen's > AuthorSupportTool project with which I am fiddling, so my suggestion > here may be utterly unreasonable). > > -- > Rory O'Farrell > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [LAZY CONSENSUS] Changes to local "code use" wording
On 12/29/2015 06:33 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >> -Original Message- From: Kay Schenk >> [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 >> 10:00 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [LAZY >> CONSENSUS] Changes to local "code use" wording >> >> >> >> On 12/29/2015 09:05 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >>> The TL;DR: >>> >>> Yes, the license page describes what must be reflected in >>> LICENSE and NOTICE files for 3rd party software, and >>> something about the software files too. >>> >>> It does not address how such software comes into a project's >>> hands. It is not about acceptance of such software. No >>> precedent about that should be read into the policy on how >>> to satisfy the third-party license and conditions for >>> notices. >>> >>> - Dennis >> >> If we go back to the acceptable licenses for distribution with >> ALv2 -- http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html >> >> Combined with the instructions for using these "acceptable" >> products/ portions, why is it not sufficient to accept that the >> code came into the project's hands by virtue of the license >> used for the software? In other words, if an author/developer >> licenses code with a particular license, is it not the >> intention of that developer to have the the product used in >> accordance with the license? And, if that is the case, why are >> any additional requests needed? > [orcmid] > > I suggest you ask this specific question on the dev@ > community.apache.org list or the general@ incubator.apache.org > list where you will find more about the notion of "willing > contribution." This gets asked regularly, even about using ALv2 > code from other Apache Projects. > > [ ... ] OK. I will do this. In my mind, licenses and copyrights are there to stand the test of time, and shouldn't be open to much "discussion". -- MzK “I appreciate failure. Failure means that an attempt was made, and a lesson can be learned. As long as we’re alive after the effort, there is a chance for success the next time around.” -- George Tekai, "Oh Myyy!" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Basic editor and key-words
On 30/12/2015 FR web forum wrote: When I write a Basic program, some words are blue to show me that are reserved. But much are missing and display in green (like LBound or UBound). Where these key-words are stored? Looks like they are here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/svtools/source/edit/syntaxhighlight.cxx?view=markup#l33 but I haven't tried to add one and rebuild; I can check further if useful. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Spellcheck and backup problems [was: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.
I have retitled this thread as it has developed to reflect more general OO problems, arising from a user difficulty. One matter we are discussing is backup. the "automatic backup" link is disabled by default. This may have been logical in days when disk space was limited, but with modern giga/terabyte drives that no longer seems a valid consideration. Blue sky thinking: Subversion/SVN backup is an Apache project. Would it be possible to make future OO releases use this for backup. On installation, OO could probe for an existing SVN setup and chain into that if found. If not, it could cause an automatic installation of a reduced mode/private SVN installation, which would maintain backups of previous versions of the OO data files in use. (I have used SVN but at an elementary level - as used in University of Bremen's AuthorSupportTool project with which I am fiddling, so my suggestion here may be utterly unreasonable). -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 17:29:22 +0100 Marcus wrote: > Am 12/30/2015 01:47 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: > > On 12/30/2015 2:10 AM, Marcus wrote: > >> Am 12/30/2015 04:44 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: > >>> +1 > >>> > >>> This may be a good project for me to participate in, along with people > >>> who know AOO internals. I have a lot of practical experience with > >>> tracking down and fixing extremely obscure intermittent bugs in > >>> operating systems and prototypes of cache coherent multiprocessor > >>> servers, so I'm not scared of them. > >>> > >>> Now getting AOO to build on Windows 8.1.. > >> > >> great, this is indeed one of our most anoying bugs. If there is a way to > >> fix it, please try to help here. I could think of changing the order of > >> files that get written on AOO shutdown. > > > > The first step is to gather together, in one place, all known > > information about the bug. Bugzilla seems like a good place to do that. > > > > As asked below, is there a Bugzilla # on this? If not, we should > > create one. If, as is often the case, there are multiple numbers, we > > should pick one to be the canonical repository for information about the > > bug. > > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121930 > > This is a the issue we are pointing to any new issue that looks like the > typical spellchecker issue. From the duplicate list you can see that > there are already 71. Wow! > > But of course we should create a new one to start from scratch with new > information. ;-) > > > Once we have a Bugzilla number, anyone who knows anything, from basic > > symptoms to theories for a fix, should record their knowledge there. > > I've created a new issue: > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126762 > > Rory can ask the forums user John_Ha to write down there his analysis so > far. Then we would have a good starting point. > > Marcus > > I will do so. Rory > > >>> On 12/29/2015 6:33 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > It sounds like that is what we should be working on, if we continue to > offer the option. > > Is there a Bugzilla # on this? > > > -Original Message- > > From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:08 > > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no > > auto > > backup copy. > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 26/12/2015 15:55, Bill M wrote: > > > >> I did find in options that in Options\Load Save\General “Always > >> create > > a > >> backup copy” was not checked. This should be checked by default. :( > > > > a) There is an extremely obscure, semi-inconsistently ir-reproducible > > bug in AOo, EO, and LibO that is triggered when "Always create backup > > copy" is checked. This bug both destroys data, and prevents the backup > > copy from being made. > > > > b) Manually saving the file is superior to automated backup, precisely > > one can save it to different folders, and thus rollback to earlier > > states is possible. (I'm deliberately ignoring OoSVN here.) > > > > jonathon > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.
Am 12/30/2015 01:47 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: On 12/30/2015 2:10 AM, Marcus wrote: Am 12/30/2015 04:44 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: +1 This may be a good project for me to participate in, along with people who know AOO internals. I have a lot of practical experience with tracking down and fixing extremely obscure intermittent bugs in operating systems and prototypes of cache coherent multiprocessor servers, so I'm not scared of them. Now getting AOO to build on Windows 8.1.. great, this is indeed one of our most anoying bugs. If there is a way to fix it, please try to help here. I could think of changing the order of files that get written on AOO shutdown. The first step is to gather together, in one place, all known information about the bug. Bugzilla seems like a good place to do that. As asked below, is there a Bugzilla # on this? If not, we should create one. If, as is often the case, there are multiple numbers, we should pick one to be the canonical repository for information about the bug. https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121930 This is a the issue we are pointing to any new issue that looks like the typical spellchecker issue. From the duplicate list you can see that there are already 71. Wow! But of course we should create a new one to start from scratch with new information. ;-) Once we have a Bugzilla number, anyone who knows anything, from basic symptoms to theories for a fix, should record their knowledge there. I've created a new issue: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126762 Rory can ask the forums user John_Ha to write down there his analysis so far. Then we would have a good starting point. Marcus On 12/29/2015 6:33 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: It sounds like that is what we should be working on, if we continue to offer the option. Is there a Bugzilla # on this? -Original Message- From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:08 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26/12/2015 15:55, Bill M wrote: I did find in options that in Options\Load Save\General “Always create a backup copy” was not checked. This should be checked by default. :( a) There is an extremely obscure, semi-inconsistently ir-reproducible bug in AOo, EO, and LibO that is triggered when "Always create backup copy" is checked. This bug both destroys data, and prevents the backup copy from being made. b) Manually saving the file is superior to automated backup, precisely one can save it to different folders, and thus rollback to earlier states is possible. (I'm deliberately ignoring OoSVN here.) jonathon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 17:12:14 +0100 Marcus wrote: > Am 12/30/2015 11:32 AM, schrieb Rory O'Farrell: > > On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 11:10:33 +0100 > > Marcus wrote: > > > >> Am 12/30/2015 04:44 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: > >>> +1 > >>> > >>> This may be a good project for me to participate in, along with people > >>> who know AOO internals. I have a lot of practical experience with > >>> tracking down and fixing extremely obscure intermittent bugs in > >>> operating systems and prototypes of cache coherent multiprocessor > >>> servers, so I'm not scared of them. > >>> > >>> Now getting AOO to build on Windows 8.1.. > >> > >> great, this is indeed one of our most anoying bugs. If there is a way to > >> fix it, please try to help here. I could think of changing the order of > >> files that get written on AOO shutdown. > >> > >> Marcus > > > > As I see it, because registrymodifications.xcu lists the "history" of > > OpenOffice's activity, it should (must?) be written as the last file in > > closedown. > > of course this needs to be analyzed in detail if it's possible to change > the order for file saving. > > > There are historic reasons (limited disk space?) for the automatic backup > > setting not to be checked; with modern disk sizes I doubt that this is now > > valid and we should change that setting to cause automatic backup by > > default in future releases. > > Limited disk space must be indeed an old reason we shouldn't take into > account nowadays. But as you wrote "reasons", do you know any more? > > Marcus > We forget how computers have speeded up since microcomputers were invented, with faster hard disk transfer, use of hardware and software write buffers, so in the distant past it might have been reasonable to omit "unnecessary" disk access to improve the response of OpenOffice, which has never been noted for lightning speed. But this is just a guess. Rory > > > >>> On 12/29/2015 6:33 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > It sounds like that is what we should be working on, if we continue to > offer the option. > > Is there a Bugzilla # on this? > > > -Original Message- > > From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:08 > > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto > > backup copy. > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 26/12/2015 15:55, Bill M wrote: > > > >> I did find in options that in Options\Load Save\General “Always create > > a > >> backup copy” was not checked. This should be checked by default. :( > > > > a) There is an extremely obscure, semi-inconsistently ir-reproducible > > bug in AOo, EO, and LibO that is triggered when "Always create backup > > copy" is checked. This bug both destroys data, and prevents the backup > > copy from being made. > > > > b) Manually saving the file is superior to automated backup, precisely > > one can save it to different folders, and thus rollback to earlier > > states is possible. (I'm deliberately ignoring OoSVN here.) > > > > jonathon > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.
Am 12/30/2015 11:32 AM, schrieb Rory O'Farrell: On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 11:10:33 +0100 Marcus wrote: Am 12/30/2015 04:44 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: +1 This may be a good project for me to participate in, along with people who know AOO internals. I have a lot of practical experience with tracking down and fixing extremely obscure intermittent bugs in operating systems and prototypes of cache coherent multiprocessor servers, so I'm not scared of them. Now getting AOO to build on Windows 8.1.. great, this is indeed one of our most anoying bugs. If there is a way to fix it, please try to help here. I could think of changing the order of files that get written on AOO shutdown. Marcus As I see it, because registrymodifications.xcu lists the "history" of OpenOffice's activity, it should (must?) be written as the last file in closedown. of course this needs to be analyzed in detail if it's possible to change the order for file saving. There are historic reasons (limited disk space?) for the automatic backup setting not to be checked; with modern disk sizes I doubt that this is now valid and we should change that setting to cause automatic backup by default in future releases. Limited disk space must be indeed an old reason we shouldn't take into account nowadays. But as you wrote "reasons", do you know any more? Marcus On 12/29/2015 6:33 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: It sounds like that is what we should be working on, if we continue to offer the option. Is there a Bugzilla # on this? -Original Message- From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:08 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26/12/2015 15:55, Bill M wrote: I did find in options that in Options\Load Save\General “Always create a backup copy” was not checked. This should be checked by default. :( a) There is an extremely obscure, semi-inconsistently ir-reproducible bug in AOo, EO, and LibO that is triggered when "Always create backup copy" is checked. This bug both destroys data, and prevents the backup copy from being made. b) Manually saving the file is superior to automated backup, precisely one can save it to different folders, and thus rollback to earlier states is possible. (I'm deliberately ignoring OoSVN here.) jonathon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Basic editor and key-words
Hello dev, When I write a Basic program, some words are blue to show me that are reserved. But much are missing and display in green (like LBound or UBound). Where these key-words are stored? Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
English Dictionaries updated - 1-JAN-2016
Hello! I have updated the English Dictionaries. The official release date was 1-JAN-2016 but everything has been ready for a week already. You can wait a few days until AOO triggers it, or download it now from the official site: http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice Also, I have updated all pages of the Proofing Tool GUI project: http://marcoagpinto.cidadevirtual.pt/proofingtoolgui.html This includes a new installation guide with new information and screenshots. The changes in this version are: - Updated en_GB (721 new words). Added 721 new words, including lots of Star Wars proper names. Even the Oxford Dictionaries have words such as "Jedi" and "lightsabre", so it was about time I added most of them. I wish everyone a Happy New Year! Kind regards from your friend and brother, >Marco A.G.Pinto --- --
Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.
On 12/30/2015 2:10 AM, Marcus wrote: Am 12/30/2015 04:44 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: +1 This may be a good project for me to participate in, along with people who know AOO internals. I have a lot of practical experience with tracking down and fixing extremely obscure intermittent bugs in operating systems and prototypes of cache coherent multiprocessor servers, so I'm not scared of them. Now getting AOO to build on Windows 8.1.. great, this is indeed one of our most anoying bugs. If there is a way to fix it, please try to help here. I could think of changing the order of files that get written on AOO shutdown. The first step is to gather together, in one place, all known information about the bug. Bugzilla seems like a good place to do that. As asked below, is there a Bugzilla # on this? If not, we should create one. If, as is often the case, there are multiple numbers, we should pick one to be the canonical repository for information about the bug. Once we have a Bugzilla number, anyone who knows anything, from basic symptoms to theories for a fix, should record their knowledge there. On 12/29/2015 6:33 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: It sounds like that is what we should be working on, if we continue to offer the option. Is there a Bugzilla # on this? -Original Message- From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:08 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26/12/2015 15:55, Bill M wrote: I did find in options that in Options\Load Save\General “Always create a backup copy” was not checked. This should be checked by default. :( a) There is an extremely obscure, semi-inconsistently ir-reproducible bug in AOo, EO, and LibO that is triggered when "Always create backup copy" is checked. This bug both destroys data, and prevents the backup copy from being made. b) Manually saving the file is superior to automated backup, precisely one can save it to different folders, and thus rollback to earlier states is possible. (I'm deliberately ignoring OoSVN here.) jonathon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 11:10:33 +0100 Marcus wrote: > Am 12/30/2015 04:44 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: > > +1 > > > > This may be a good project for me to participate in, along with people > > who know AOO internals. I have a lot of practical experience with > > tracking down and fixing extremely obscure intermittent bugs in > > operating systems and prototypes of cache coherent multiprocessor > > servers, so I'm not scared of them. > > > > Now getting AOO to build on Windows 8.1.. > > great, this is indeed one of our most anoying bugs. If there is a way to > fix it, please try to help here. I could think of changing the order of > files that get written on AOO shutdown. > > Marcus As I see it, because registrymodifications.xcu lists the "history" of OpenOffice's activity, it should (must?) be written as the last file in closedown. There are historic reasons (limited disk space?) for the automatic backup setting not to be checked; with modern disk sizes I doubt that this is now valid and we should change that setting to cause automatic backup by default in future releases. This is an aside, and I don't wish it to distract from the main problem: I have a particular case where I have to switch off the "automatic backup" setting. I have two NAS devices - an Iomega Home media device and a Buffalo Linkstation. I normally save my work in progress to the Buffalo; it will not save if the automatic backup is enabled. It will save to the Iomega no matter what the setting. As far as I can see, file access rights are identical for both devices and I just work around the problem by making manual timed/dated backups as part of my normal procedure. Rory > > > > On 12/29/2015 6:33 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > >> It sounds like that is what we should be working on, if we continue to > >> offer the option. > >> > >> Is there a Bugzilla # on this? > >> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] > >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:08 > >>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > >>> Subject: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto > >>> backup copy. > >>> > >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >>> Hash: SHA1 > >>> > >>> On 26/12/2015 15:55, Bill M wrote: > >>> > I did find in options that in Options\Load Save\General “Always create > >>> a > backup copy” was not checked. This should be checked by default. :( > >>> > >>> a) There is an extremely obscure, semi-inconsistently ir-reproducible > >>> bug in AOo, EO, and LibO that is triggered when "Always create backup > >>> copy" is checked. This bug both destroys data, and prevents the backup > >>> copy from being made. > >>> > >>> b) Manually saving the file is superior to automated backup, precisely > >>> one can save it to different folders, and thus rollback to earlier > >>> states is possible. (I'm deliberately ignoring OoSVN here.) > >>> > >>> jonathon > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.
Am 12/30/2015 04:44 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: +1 This may be a good project for me to participate in, along with people who know AOO internals. I have a lot of practical experience with tracking down and fixing extremely obscure intermittent bugs in operating systems and prototypes of cache coherent multiprocessor servers, so I'm not scared of them. Now getting AOO to build on Windows 8.1.. great, this is indeed one of our most anoying bugs. If there is a way to fix it, please try to help here. I could think of changing the order of files that get written on AOO shutdown. Marcus On 12/29/2015 6:33 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: It sounds like that is what we should be working on, if we continue to offer the option. Is there a Bugzilla # on this? -Original Message- From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:08 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26/12/2015 15:55, Bill M wrote: I did find in options that in Options\Load Save\General “Always create a backup copy” was not checked. This should be checked by default. :( a) There is an extremely obscure, semi-inconsistently ir-reproducible bug in AOo, EO, and LibO that is triggered when "Always create backup copy" is checked. This bug both destroys data, and prevents the backup copy from being made. b) Manually saving the file is superior to automated backup, precisely one can save it to different folders, and thus rollback to earlier states is possible. (I'm deliberately ignoring OoSVN here.) jonathon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.
Am 12/30/2015 04:58 AM, schrieb Rory O'Farrell: On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 19:44:45 -0800 Patricia Shanahan wrote: +1 This may be a good project for me to participate in, along with people who know AOO internals. I have a lot of practical experience with tracking down and fixing extremely obscure intermittent bugs in operating systems and prototypes of cache coherent multiprocessor servers, so I'm not scared of them. Now getting AOO to build on Windows 8.1.. Patricia A side effect of curing this problem may be an increase in time taken to Save OpenOffice files. In writing an OpenOffice ODF file the last component written to the user profile is file registrymodifications.xcu (work of Forum volunteer John_Ha - reference available if required). This file is frequently damaged by premature shutdown; damage to it is a reason for the frequently reported loss of spellchecking. John_Ha has also located possible reasons for oft-reported loss of illustrations. if this is true and someone has really identified the root cause and a fix for our "my spellchecker is broken" issue, then we have our first showstopper - regardless what version number is next. My 2 ct. Marcus On 12/29/2015 6:33 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: It sounds like that is what we should be working on, if we continue to offer the option. Is there a Bugzilla # on this? -Original Message- From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:08 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26/12/2015 15:55, Bill M wrote: I did find in options that in Options\Load Save\General “Always create a backup copy” was not checked. This should be checked by default. :( a) There is an extremely obscure, semi-inconsistently ir-reproducible bug in AOo, EO, and LibO that is triggered when "Always create backup copy" is checked. This bug both destroys data, and prevents the backup copy from being made. b) Manually saving the file is superior to automated backup, precisely one can save it to different folders, and thus rollback to earlier states is possible. (I'm deliberately ignoring OoSVN here.) jonathon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
