Re: Googletest download failures

[Don Lewis]

On 26 Aug, Kay Schenk wrote:
> All our buildbots are currently failing trying to download
> http://googletest.googlecode.com/files/gtest-1.7.0.zip
> 
> Does anyone know if this is now the correct download location?
> https://github.com/google/googletest/archive/master.zip
> 
> I didn't have any problems about a week ago so I'm wondering if this is
> recent.

I don't have any problems here with wget:

%wget http://googletest.googlecode.com/files/gtest-1.7.0.zip
--2016-08-26 22:44:15--  http://googletest.googlecode.com/files/gtest-1.7.0.zip
Resolving googletest.googlecode.com (googletest.googlecode.com)... 
2607:f8b0:400e:c03::52, 74.125.25.82
Connecting to googletest.googlecode.com 
(googletest.googlecode.com)|2607:f8b0:400e:c03::52|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 1164254 (1.1M) [application/zip]
Saving to: 'gtest-1.7.0.zip'

gtest-1.7.0.zip 100%[===>]   1.11M   484KB/sin 2.3s

2016-08-26 22:44:17 (484 KB/s) - 'gtest-1.7.0.zip' saved [1164254/1164254]


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Googletest download failures

[Kay Schenk]

All our buildbots are currently failing trying to download
http://googletest.googlecode.com/files/gtest-1.7.0.zip

Does anyone know if this is now the correct download location?
https://github.com/google/googletest/archive/master.zip

I didn't have any problems about a week ago so I'm wondering if this is
recent.
Thanks.
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 the best of the way things work out."
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Re: svn commit: r1757861 - /openoffice/trunk/main/configure.ac

[Kay Schenk]

On 08/26/2016 04:18 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> OK. I will investigate why this happened. Thanks.
> 
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Don Lewis  > wrote:
> 
> ... and hamcrest wasn't removed from set_soenv.in :
> 
> [snip]
> configure: writing config.status
> configure: creating ./config.status
> config.status: creating set_soenv
> config.status: creating Makefile
> Possible unintended interpolation of @HAMCREST_CORE_JAR in string at
> ./set_soenv line 1653.
> Global symbol "@HAMCREST_CORE_JAR" requires explicit package name
> (did you forget to declare "my @HAMCREST_CORE_JAR"?) at ./set_soenv
> line 1653.
> Execution of ./set_soenv aborted due to compilation errors.
> 

set_soenv should be fixed now. When I finish my build, I'll reapply your
nasm patch or you can. Sorry about that.

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Re: svn commit: r1757861 - /openoffice/trunk/main/configure.ac

[Kay Schenk]

OK. I will investigate why this happened. Thanks.

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Don Lewis  wrote:

> ... and hamcrest wasn't removed from set_soenv.in:
>
> [snip]
> configure: writing config.status
> configure: creating ./config.status
> config.status: creating set_soenv
> config.status: creating Makefile
> Possible unintended interpolation of @HAMCREST_CORE_JAR in string at
> ./set_soenv line 1653.
> Global symbol "@HAMCREST_CORE_JAR" requires explicit package name (did you
> forget to declare "my @HAMCREST_CORE_JAR"?) at ./set_soenv line 1653.
> Execution of ./set_soenv aborted due to compilation errors.
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.2: General Topics

[Kay Schenk]

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Andrea Pescetti 
wrote:

> Resending to 3 lists... I suggest to have a "canonical" reply-to to the
> dev list for the next messages. Andrea
>
> Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>
>> On 23/08/2016 Kay Schenk wrote:
>>
>>> WARNING: This is quite long!
>>>
>>
>> And the discussion was even longer, but I'll start with answering this
>> one.
>>
>> And I'll first note that:
>>
>> 1) Work is not starting now. We have years of code already committed and
>> not shown in previous releases.
>>
>> 2) Like for every release, we make plans but at a certain point we have
>> to cut the release and this "wishlist" is thus a tentative guideline.
>>
>> *PRIORITIES*
>>> 1. Update the localization.
>>> We've had quite a bit of work by the localization folks since the 4.1.1
>>> release. This was the last release, in 2014-08-21 to import localization
>>> updates. Currently, it seems we might also add 3 new languages: Uyghur,
>>> Sinhala, and Icelandic with the 4.2 release. This would include both UI
>>> translations and Help translations.
>>>
>>
>> Last translations import were done in 4.1.0 and not 4.1.1 (if I recall
>> correctly); but this is a minor detail. There are no new languages to be
>> expected in 4.2.0: we have new languages in Pootle, but I don't think
>> any of them is ready enough for being released (this may of course
>> improve with time). So in short 4.2.0 means that we can add strings to
>> the code, which means we can make them available to translators, which
>> in turn means we can (we have to) update all translations.
>>
>
​Ok, from what I saw in Pootle, it looked like at least were VERY close to
be added.​



>> We need volunteers to lead this endeavor. I, personally, don't know
>>> anything about this process.
>>>
>>
>> I'm slowly working on this but I still have something to find/learn.
>> I've sent the l10n list a mail sending that I'm planning to test a first
>> import in early September - just to test the process.
>>
>
​Great to hear this! I read through some old documentation on the wiki and
I didn't know if it still applied or not.
​


>
>> 2. Update Java requirement from Java 1.5 to *at least* Java 1.7
>>> I am rather adamant that we change our building requirement to Java 1.7
>>> for all platforms. I will be changing that in our Building Guide today.
>>>
>>
>> Is there a real reason for it?
>
>

Possible security issues. I can not imagine at this point in time that
ANYONE is really using java 1.5 as a default java installation.
I don't think this is a capricious change. Java 1.5 has been out of service
updates by anyone for I think at least 4  years. The EOL on it was Oct.,
2009. If we continually build with java 1.5, I would think our user base
would wonder what "issues" using this old Java might mean for their
security. Right now when I uild with java 1.8, and have enhancing messaging
for the java component builds, I get a lot of " is deprecated"
messages. Yes, we could fix this. I hope these deprecations are not leading
to further problems down the line.
Even Java 1.7 is dated and is EOL via Oracle. However, I am still getting
updates for it.

​


> I see this like saying (this is just an
>> example, not to be taken literally) "we drop support for Windows XP
>> since it's old and unsupported". In short: if we need work to drop Java
>> 1.5 then we have clear advantages in raising our requirement to 1.7,
>>
>
​So far, I haven't seen any. Most of us are building with either Java 1.7,
or Java 1.8. The Windows build switched to Java 7 at least 2 years ago if
I'm not mistaken. I have NO idea why this was not done with ALL our builds.
No additional work except to just use the newer versions. Everything still
works near as I can tell.

We can not in good conscience continue to supply software built with the
old outdated version of Java.
​


> otherwise we can simply drop the requirement saying "we won't explicitly
>> test compatibility with Java < 1.7"; but in that case we must provide
>> ways to obtain a compatible JRE for all the 4 supported platforms.
>>
>
​I think we're good. No worries.​



>> 3. Issues for inclusion
>>> We need to include submitted/tested patches since 4.0.x. This should not
>>> include UI changes which would need to undergo a much longer test period.
>>>
>>
>> The version number is not a detail. We call it 4.2.0 since UI changes
>> are allowed. On the other hand, we don't have to include all patches;
>> actually, seeing all the code that already went in, I would be more on
>> the conservative side here.
>>
>> Additionally, issue 127068, involving analytics on our source code would
>>> surely be worth investigating.
>>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127068
>>>
>>
>> These are automatically found defects, good for easy fixes but probably
>> not really important.
>>
>> I'd rather suggest that we give some attention to the 4.1.2 regressions,
>> especially this one (the only one so far):
>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126622
>>
>
​O

Re: svn commit: r1757861 - /openoffice/trunk/main/configure.ac

[Don Lewis]

... and hamcrest wasn't removed from set_soenv.in:

[snip]
configure: writing config.status
configure: creating ./config.status
config.status: creating set_soenv
config.status: creating Makefile
Possible unintended interpolation of @HAMCREST_CORE_JAR in string at 
./set_soenv line 1653.
Global symbol "@HAMCREST_CORE_JAR" requires explicit package name (did you 
forget to declare "my @HAMCREST_CORE_JAR"?) at ./set_soenv line 1653.
Execution of ./set_soenv aborted due to compilation errors.


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Re: svn commit: r1757861 - /openoffice/trunk/main/configure.ac

[Don Lewis]

On 26 Aug, ksch...@apache.org wrote:
> Author: kschenk
> Date: Fri Aug 26 14:49:44 2016
> New Revision: 1757861
> 
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1757861&view=rev
> Log:
> Put configure.ac back to r1755455 before junit, hamcrest vesion checks.
> Newere versions have not been reverted.
> 
> 
> Modified:
> openoffice/trunk/main/configure.ac
> 
> Modified: openoffice/trunk/main/configure.ac
> URL: 
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/configure.ac?rev=1757861&r1=1757860&r2=1757861&view=diff
> ==
> --- openoffice/trunk/main/configure.ac (original)
> +++ openoffice/trunk/main/configure.ac Fri Aug 26 14:49:44 2016
> @@ -680,17 +680,10 @@ AC_ARG_WITH(ant-home,
>  AC_ARG_WITH(junit,
>  [  --with-junitSpecifies the JUnit 4 jar file to use for 
> JUnit-based
>tests.  --without-junit disables those tests.  Not
> -  relevant in the --without-java case. The 
> --with-hamcrest-core
> -  option is also necessary.
> +  relevant in the --without-java case.
>  
>Usage: --with-junit=
>  ],,with_junit=yes)
> -AC_ARG_WITH(hamcrest-core,
> -[  --with-hamcrest-coreSpecifies the hamcrest-core 1.3 jar file to use 
> for
> -  JUnit-based tests.  --without-junit disables those
> -  tests.  Not relevant in the --without-java or
> -  --without-junit cases.
> -],,with_hamcrest_core=yes)
>  AC_ARG_WITH(perl-home,
>  [  --with-perl-homeIf you have installed the Perl 5 Distribution, on 
> your
>system, please supply the path here.
> @@ -870,12 +863,6 @@ AC_ARG_WITH(asm-home,
>  
>Usage: --with-asm-home=
>  ],,)
> -AC_ARG_WITH(nasm-home,
> -[  --with-nasm-homeFor Windows users, please supply the path for the
> -  nasm.exe assembler.
> -
> -  Usage: --with-nasm-home= directory>
> -],,)


The nasm stuff is needed is now needed for Windows builds ...


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Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.2: General Topics

[Andrea Pescetti]

Don Lewis wrote:

I forgot to mention that the PDF Import extension is somewhat
problematic to distribute.  It relies on poppler, which has a GPLv2
license.


Yes, this was the reason for removing the extension from the OpenOffice 
installers back at the time. We do bundle GPL dictionaries though, 
thanks to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-117 which took a 
long discussion but gave good results. If one is determined to bundle 
PDF Import again, then I would first try to obtain an opinion from legal 
to understand how much code must be rewritten/adapted.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.2: General Topics

[Andrea Pescetti]

Don Lewis wrote:

On 25 Aug, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Is there a real reason for it? ...
otherwise we can simply drop the requirement saying "we won't explicitly
test compatibility with Java < 1.7"; but in that case we must provide
ways to obtain a compatible JRE for all the 4 supported platforms.

In the experiments that I've done, it seems like if you build with a
certain Java version, the resulting executables won't work with an older
Java version on the machine where the installation is done.


I believe it's a bit more complex than that, as you build WITH Java 
version "A" FOR Java version "B". But without going into details, if 
this takes work and the only result is that we are compatible with fewer 
users, then we can probably have other priorities.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Attention: Courtney

[Patricia Shanahan]

Don't worry about all the e-mails. It's a bit like walking into the 
middle of a conversation. I would prefer to establish direct 
communication, not through the list, so that we can work out the best 
way for you to help at this point in time.


You should get two copies of this e-mail, one through the list and the 
other direct. Please let me know whether you get both.


On 8/26/2016 10:39 AM, courtneymc...@roadrunner.com wrote:

Hey Patricia! I'm sorry it took so long to reply. Your email got lost
in the river of emails this subscription sends me everyday! I hate to
say it but I think all of this is too advanced for me. I want to help
but. I just still got lost trying to understand the emails everyone
was sending.

 Patricia Shanahan  wrote:

Courtney,

I tried to reply directly to your email three days ago. Please
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Re: Attention: Courtney

[courtneymcgee]

I use @roadrunner.com its a time warner cable I believe. I wouldn't mind the 
emails so much if I was involved but I'm not contributing and not sure how to 
begin to. 
 JZA  wrote: 
> Is a mailing list, is the way it works, usually you can apply filters and
> thread views to follow conversations based on the title of the thread.
> You can also choose to remove the emails from your regular inbox so it
> doesnt interfere with your personal communication.
> I am not sure what email client you use, so this functionality might not
> work for every one. But at least Thunderbird, Gmail, Horde and Outlook
> clients provide such functionality. I suggest you google mailing list
> management + "your email client'.
> 
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:39 PM,  wrote:
> 
> > Hey Patricia! I'm sorry it took so long to reply. Your email got lost in
> > the river of emails this subscription sends me everyday! I hate to say it
> > but I think all of this is too advanced for me. I want to help but. I just
> > still got lost trying to understand the emails everyone was sending.
> >
> >  Patricia Shanahan  wrote:
> > > Courtney,
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Re: Attention: Courtney

[JZA]

Is a mailing list, is the way it works, usually you can apply filters and
thread views to follow conversations based on the title of the thread.
You can also choose to remove the emails from your regular inbox so it
doesnt interfere with your personal communication.
I am not sure what email client you use, so this functionality might not
work for every one. But at least Thunderbird, Gmail, Horde and Outlook
clients provide such functionality. I suggest you google mailing list
management + "your email client'.

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:39 PM,  wrote:

> Hey Patricia! I'm sorry it took so long to reply. Your email got lost in
> the river of emails this subscription sends me everyday! I hate to say it
> but I think all of this is too advanced for me. I want to help but. I just
> still got lost trying to understand the emails everyone was sending.
>
>  Patricia Shanahan  wrote:
> > Courtney,
> >
> > I tried to reply directly to your email three days ago. Please check
> > whether a message from me got caught in a spam filter etc.
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Re: Attention: Courtney

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Hey Patricia! I'm sorry it took so long to reply. Your email got lost in the 
river of emails this subscription sends me everyday! I hate to say it but I 
think all of this is too advanced for me. I want to help but. I just still got 
lost trying to understand the emails everyone was sending.

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RE: [PROPOSAL] General Availability of ApacheOpenOffice 4.1.2-patch1 Hotfixes

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

[BCC to PMC, FYI to L10N and QA.]

The 4.2.1-patch1 release repository is now populated with the only 
localizations that we have: English (en-US) and German (de) for all platforms 
plus the additional Nederland (nl) for Windows.  The localizations took until 
yesterday, 2016-08-25, to be completed.

Propagation to the archive site has begun and will probably not be complete for 
another 24 hours.  Meanwhile, an updated CVE-2016-1513 will be prepared.  The 
update will be posted when the archive is stable, along with notification to 
dev@ and users@.  Those actions will provide the general availability of the 
Hotfix.

While minor blemishes may remain, this material will be kept stable as is 
unless a serious defect is brought to our attention.  Cosmetic matters are 
appropriate to save for whenever we need to do this again.

One lesson: Localizations should not hold up release in the future.  
Localizations not available during the initial dev QA and review period should 
not stop the train.  Supplemental localizations are always possible.  That will 
likely always be the case when a hotfix is made available along with an initial 
vulnerability disclosure and advisory.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org]
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 15:02
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: [PROPOSAL] General Availability of ApacheOpenOffice 4.1.2-
> patch1 Hotfixes
> 
> [BCC PMC, FYI QA]
> 
> At this time, the preparation and dev@/qa@ confirmation of the AOO
> 4.1.2-patch1 Hotfixes has quieted.
> 
> I propose that the current binaries be placed into general availability.
> I am initiating lazy consensus to end not before Tuesday, 2016-08-
> 23T22:00Z.
> 
> MATERIALS TO BE AVAILABLE
> 
>  * The file hotfix.html at
>
>will be made available at
>
> 
>  * The directory folder
> patch1/binaries/>
>will be made available as a subdirectory of
>.
> 
> ANNOUNCEMENT OF AVAILABILITY
> 
>   * The CVE-2016-1513 advisory,
> ,
> will be reissued to include availability of the hotfix and
> refer users to the hotfix.html page in the archive 4.1.2-patch1
> location.
> 
>   * There will be an accompanying announcement on dev@, users@,
> and in the two bugzilla issues related to the defect that the
> hotfix applies to.
> 
> WHAT TO REVIEW
> 
> You can find everything to be made available by starting with the
> hotfix.html page at
>  patch1/hotfix.html>.
> 
> IGNORE the Source column.  The source release has already occurred, and
> those links will not be valid until deployment of hotfix.html to the
> archive location.
> 
> The README files are the next materials to examine.  There you can learn
> more about the hotfix for each of the four platforms: Windows, MacOSX,
> Linux32, and Linux64.  Follow any of the procedures that you want to
> verify.
> 
> 
>  - Dennis
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Line Spacing Comparison and Issues with Docx

[Nate Bellowe]

Sorry for the double email.

Also, I can provide more detailed data, but its big and not emailable.

From: Nate Bellowe [mailto:nath...@windward.net]
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:06 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: David Thielen 
Subject: Line Spacing Comparison and Issues with Docx

Hello! Sorry to intrude on your dev mailing list, this may seem a little off 
topic, but I have been banging my head on this forever, and I know you guys are 
the experts!  We can also all get some help out of this, perhaps!

I have been running into an issue that I know the developers of openOffice have 
likely faced before! I was wondering if the developers that have worked on this 
before would like to talk some about this, I'd really appreciate it!

Basically, I have some questions on how to calculate the line spacing between 
lines, when parsing and rendering a docx file.

My requirement is to exactly match Word, not necessarily the OOXML spec, in the 
spacing between lines in a simple paragraph.

In order to try to do this, I have built a tool to analyze the differences 
between my layout and Word's layout. To do so it does the following:

- First it generates a (or many) docx files.
- Next it creates pdfs from the docx files. It uses Word to render the docx to 
PDF, and my program to render the docx to PDF. "word.pdf", and "me.pdf"
- Then it analyzes the resulting PDFs for differences in layout.

So, my tool would say:

- Create a document "template.docx" with 1000 "a" characters in a single run of 
text with the same properties.
- Make a "word.pdf" and "me.pdf" from this docx
- Calculate info from the pdfs, in particular, calculating the line spacing in 
terms of the calculated leading between a lines ascent and the previous lines 
descent (our (Ascent + Descent) are identical-ish, so all that differs is the 
whitespace between lines). I often think of it as the lines whitespace...

This tool showed me that the leading varies greatly from font to font.

To depict this, I used the tool to make thousands of these comparisons, in 
particular generating for:

- For each font in system
- For "a", "y", and a mix of letters and spaces.
- For different font sizes.
- For different line spacing types (Single, One and a half, and Double)

I was hoping to find groupings, such as "this type of font has 1.3 times my 
calculation of leading".

I was able to conclude far less than I had hoped, and was wondering if you 
could help me further with the issue of calculating line spacing. I'm providing 
you with a file that is best downloaded and opened using the filters in the 
header row. Note that its not totally complete, there are missing entries, but 
I doubt they will be a problem for anyone, and I'm going to regenerate it soon 
but its pretty slow, so I'm finishing up some changes to it first.

Here is a comparison of the layout of our software, vs the layout of Word's for 
every font installed on my system, etc. (attached and linked)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzQpUdPjnJUUclRXVXFkaEh3Mms/view?usp=sharing

I'm not positive, but I believe the issue could be one of the following:

- Word is using a different process than we are to calculate the "leading" of a 
font. We don't parse the font files ourselves, instead rely on libraries to get 
font sizing information, and perhaps in the "world of font files" I am missing 
something, and word is parsing the fonts directly and differently.
- Word has some sort of lookup table that handles groups of fonts, or an 
algorithm, that scales a fonts leadings up or down based on some criteria I am 
unaware of.
- Word is using an additional criteria besides leading, ascent, and descent, to 
determine line spacing.

Please feel free to email me at 
nath...@windward.net

Thank you so much for your time!!

I know you guys aren't trying to emulate Word, (I very much enjoy Writer) but 
am sure you've had complaints of people opening documents made in Word that 
there friend sent them, and having major formatting differences, such as 
different pagination.

Microsoft is famous for having been both open and closed about this spec, and 
thus allowing its wide-spread adoption without proper competition, and I think 
that openness between communities trying to work with that is very helpful. 
We'd be happy to exchange information about quirks and things that differ from 
the spec that we find.

Re: Fwd: Re: Questions about buildbot internals

[Kay Schenk]

On 08/26/2016 04:22 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Kay Schenk wrote:
>> Do you really mean 16.04 LTS? Is there a buildbot setup with this? I
>> am NOT
>> a Ubuntu person.
> 
> Yes, I did mean 16.04 LTS. But I see that end of life for 14.04
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases is April 2019, so 5 years and not 3 as
> it was for earlier Ubuntu LTS versions. This means 14.04 is OK.
> 
> That said, if our focus is on making a release then we simply need
> working buildbots. The current setup (pending the dependency fixes) can
> be satisfactory too. As a rule of thumb, the newer a (Linux) buildbot
> is, the less compatible produced builds are - which means they can be
> tested by fewer people.
> 
> Regards,
>   Andrea.

Just now I replaced configure.ac with and older version before the
specific junit and hamcrest version checking. Hopefully this will get
our current buildbots rolling again.

The major problem with newer buildbots using Ubuntu is the glibc version
is newer compared to what is used in our "baseline" Linux, which is
CentOS5, or even, as I discovered CentOS7. SO, I can't test the builds
using my CentOS 6.8, for example. Newer end user Linux systems would
probably not have problems.

The good thing about moving to the Ubuntu 14.04 buildbots was our
capability to install what we needed basically directly vs putting in
Jira tix to infra.

I'm hoping the buildbots will run OK this evening.

ps. I think Windows is building --without-junit, so we have an
inconsistency there.



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Re: Forums not working?

[Andrea Pescetti]

JZA wrote:

Well the issue is actually on the forums.openoffice.org doing a google
search to the direct site worked:
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/
but typing the url will forward it to the project pages, like this:
forums.openoffice.org -> http://www.openoffice.org/projects/forums/
So I guess is just some small quirk of the site.


I think it's just a typo on your side. forum not forums. 
forum.openoffice.org is correctly redirected, forums does not exist and 
thus you get our "last attempt" redirect which does not succeed because 
the URL is typed in a wrong way.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Fwd: Re: Questions about buildbot internals

[Andrea Pescetti]

Kay Schenk wrote:

Do you really mean 16.04 LTS? Is there a buildbot setup with this? I am NOT
a Ubuntu person.


Yes, I did mean 16.04 LTS. But I see that end of life for 14.04 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases is April 2019, so 5 years and not 3 as 
it was for earlier Ubuntu LTS versions. This means 14.04 is OK.


That said, if our focus is on making a release then we simply need 
working buildbots. The current setup (pending the dependency fixes) can 
be satisfactory too. As a rule of thumb, the newer a (Linux) buildbot 
is, the less compatible produced builds are - which means they can be 
tested by fewer people.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Forums not working?

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 02:21:56 -0500
JZA  wrote:

> Well the issue is actually on the forums.openoffice.org doing a google
> search to the direct site worked:
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/
> but typing the url will forward it to the project pages, like this:
> forums.openoffice.org -> http://www.openoffice.org/projects/forums/
> 
> So I guess is just some small quirk of the site.


Both methods work correctly for me (just now tested).  As a Moderator on the 
en-Forum I have a shortcut to the Forum on my bookmarks toolbar, which I 
usually use for connection

RoryOF
> 
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 1:46 AM, Andrea Pescetti 
> wrote:
> 
> > JZA wrote:
> >
> >> Wonder if there is something wrong wtih the forums?
> >>
> >
> > Everything works correctly for me at
> > https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewforum.php?f=7
> > and no outage notifications were sent. I also see a recent message posted
> > by you, so I assume this is fixed.
> >
> > Regards,
> >   Andrea.
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Re: Forums not working?

[JZA]

Well the issue is actually on the forums.openoffice.org doing a google
search to the direct site worked:
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/
but typing the url will forward it to the project pages, like this:
forums.openoffice.org -> http://www.openoffice.org/projects/forums/

So I guess is just some small quirk of the site.

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 1:46 AM, Andrea Pescetti 
wrote:

> JZA wrote:
>
>> Wonder if there is something wrong wtih the forums?
>>
>
> Everything works correctly for me at
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewforum.php?f=7
> and no outage notifications were sent. I also see a recent message posted
> by you, so I assume this is fixed.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
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