Re: Time for our first 4.2.0 beta?
Hi Jim, Am 15.02.19 um 13:33 schrieb Jim Jagielski: > Just trying to keep the momentum going ;) Definitely! And I would be the last person not wanting to release AOO 4.2.0 (beta)! ;-) Regards, Matthias > >> On Feb 14, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Matthias Seidel >> wrote: >> >> Hi Jim, >> >> IMO, the situation hasn't changed so much. >> >> We should at least fix issue 125129 [1] before we release a (public) >> beta. I have seen that Damjan is investigating... >> >> Then we need time to inform translators on l10n@ before we can export >> the latest translations from Pootle. >> At the moment most of them are at 98% for the UI but the SDF files still >> need to be updated in source. >> >> Regards, >> >>Matthias >> >> [1] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125129 >> >> >> Am 14.02.19 um 17:45 schrieb Jim Jagielski: >>> Time for another ping... what does everyone think? Time? >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> >>> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Time for our first 4.2.0 beta?
HEllo Pedro Am 15.02.19 um 11:56 schrieb Pedro Lino: > >> On February 14, 2019 at 4:45 PM Jim Jagielski wrote: >> >> >> Time for another ping... what does everyone think? Time? > > How does a Beta version install on Linux?* Is it installed in parallel to the > Stable version (like on Windows)? Under Linux (here: Debian) it is possible to install several versions (stale and betas and des) side-by-side. The requerement is to install the desktop-integration only one time. Then ist is possible to take the directory openoffice4 under /opt into a drectory you create yourself. For example, at this time I have 6 Versions in parallel. In former time I hat more than 10 or so. > > If not then I believe the update problem should be fixed *before* releasing > the Beta > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127774 I never used the update function > > Regards, > Pedro > > * I was going to test a previous Beta instead of asking, but the archive for > the only Beta does not contain any binaries > http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.0-beta/binaries/en-US/ Kind regards -- Mechtilde Stehmann ## Apache OpenOffice ## Freie Office Suite für Linux, MacOSX, Windows ## Debian Developer ## PGP encryption welcome ## F0E3 7F3D C87A 4998 2899 39E7 F287 7BBA 141A AD7F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Time for our first 4.2.0 beta?
Just trying to keep the momentum going ;) > On Feb 14, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Matthias Seidel > wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > IMO, the situation hasn't changed so much. > > We should at least fix issue 125129 [1] before we release a (public) > beta. I have seen that Damjan is investigating... > > Then we need time to inform translators on l10n@ before we can export > the latest translations from Pootle. > At the moment most of them are at 98% for the UI but the SDF files still > need to be updated in source. > > Regards, > >Matthias > > [1] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125129 > > > Am 14.02.19 um 17:45 schrieb Jim Jagielski: >> Time for another ping... what does everyone think? Time? >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Time for our first 4.2.0 beta?
Hi Rory, Keith, all > On February 15, 2019 at 11:32 AM "Keith N. McKenna" < > keith.mcke...@comcast.net mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net > wrote: > > > On 2/15/2019 6:03 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > > > > On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 10:56:25 + (WET) Pedro Lino > > < pedro.l...@mailbox.org mailto:pedro.l...@mailbox.org > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On February 14, 2019 at 4:45 PM > > > Jim Jagielski < j...@jagunet.com mailto:j...@jagunet.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Time for another ping... what does everyone think? Time? > > > > > > > > > > > How does a Beta version install on > > > > Linux?* Is it installed in > > > parallel to the Stable version (like on Windows)? > > > > > > > > > > I always found a Beta overwrote the current version. > > > > > Thanks! Then I believe Bug 127774 should be fixed in advance > See the How To at > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Run_OOo_versions_parallel for running > multiple versions in parallel. There is a warning at the top of the page > about possible incompatibilities, but I have used the process defined > there on Windows 7 professional on 4.x versions in the past with no > problems. > If you find any problems in the Linux instructions please let me know so > the page can be updated. > The question was how the Beta is installed by default (manual parallel installation is indeed possible on both OSes) Regards, Pedro > >> > >> If not then I believe the update problem should be fixed *before* > >> releasing the Beta > >> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127774 > >> > >> Regards, Pedro > >> > >> * I was going to test a previous Beta instead of asking, but the > >> archive for the only Beta does not contain any binaries > >> http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.0-beta/binaries/en-US/ > >> > >> > >> > - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > mailto:dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For > >> additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > mailto:dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
Re: Time for our first 4.2.0 beta?
On 2/15/2019 6:03 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 10:56:25 + (WET) Pedro Lino > wrote: > >> >>> On February 14, 2019 at 4:45 PM Jim Jagielski >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Time for another ping... what does everyone think? Time? >> >> How does a Beta version install on Linux?* Is it installed in >> parallel to the Stable version (like on Windows)? > > > I always found a Beta overwrote the current version. > > Rory > See the How To at https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Run_OOo_versions_parallel for running multiple versions in parallel. There is a warning at the top of the page about possible incompatibilities, but I have used the process defined there on Windows 7 professional on 4.x versions in the past with no problems. If you find any problems in the Linux instructions please let me know so the page can be updated. Regards Keith >> >> If not then I believe the update problem should be fixed *before* >> releasing the Beta >> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127774 >> >> Regards, Pedro >> >> * I was going to test a previous Beta instead of asking, but the >> archive for the only Beta does not contain any binaries >> http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.0-beta/binaries/en-US/ >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For >> additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> > > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Time for our first 4.2.0 beta?
On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 10:56:25 + (WET) Pedro Lino wrote: > > > On February 14, 2019 at 4:45 PM Jim Jagielski wrote: > > > > > > Time for another ping... what does everyone think? Time? > > How does a Beta version install on Linux?* Is it installed in parallel to the > Stable version (like on Windows)? I always found a Beta overwrote the current version. Rory > > If not then I believe the update problem should be fixed *before* releasing > the Beta > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127774 > > Regards, > Pedro > > * I was going to test a previous Beta instead of asking, but the archive for > the only Beta does not contain any binaries > http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.0-beta/binaries/en-US/ > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Time for our first 4.2.0 beta?
> On February 14, 2019 at 4:45 PM Jim Jagielski wrote: > > > Time for another ping... what does everyone think? Time? How does a Beta version install on Linux?* Is it installed in parallel to the Stable version (like on Windows)? If not then I believe the update problem should be fixed *before* releasing the Beta https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127774 Regards, Pedro * I was going to test a previous Beta instead of asking, but the archive for the only Beta does not contain any binaries http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.0-beta/binaries/en-US/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Time for our first 4.2.0 beta?
On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 11:55:32 +0200 Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > Bug 125129 looks like a wild goose chase and requires considerable > understanding of the framework layer, but I'll try continue when I have > time. A quick experiment with Writer in 4.2.0 shows me that one cannot insert a background fill (Area tab) when making a frame, but one can subsequently select the frame and then insert the background. Also, the Frame toolbar does not show onscreen for me, so I am unable to attempt Linking frames, whether empty or with background fill. Using /View /Toolbars : Frame turns off the Formatting toolbar, but does not display the Frame toolbar. I am reasonably sure the Frame toolbar is not anywhere on my desktop (several monitors in use - checked it is not hidden behind anything). (I am using AOO420m1(Build:9800) - Rev. 1851640 2019-01-19 15:48:21 (Sat, 19 Jan 2019) - Linux x86_64 [Apache OpenOffice Test Development Build] running on Xubuntu 18.04.02 64 bit) I don't currently use Frames in any of my works in progress, so this is not a matter of any urgency for me. I am of course ready to try any interim version (whether public or private) to examine any change in this or other problems. -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Time for our first 4.2.0 beta?
Bug 125129 looks like a wild goose chase and requires considerable understanding of the framework layer, but I'll try continue when I have time. My own release checklist would include: 1. Library audit. 1.1 Did we lose or gain any public symbols in our libraries since the 4.1.0? Gbuild requires explicit export instead of exporting everything and then possibly controlling visibility with a .map file, so it's very possible. 1.2 Did ELF symbol versions on *nix platforms change? The older gbuild modules probably did, as I didn't understand the meaning of .map files back then. 1.3 Are the same libraries with the same names available in both 4.1.0 and 4.2.0? 2. Base: 2.1 Complete the Java SDBC driver framework, used by both the new SDBC-JDBC bridge and the Postgres SDBC driver. 2.2 Audit the new SDBC-JDBC bridge in Java against the old C++ one, fix any differences. 2.3 Complete the Postgres SDBC driver; still needs views, users, groups, etc. 2.4 Complete the integration of the Postgres SDBC driver into the Base UI forms (like MySQL already is). 3. Crashreporter 3.1 Get it working again. 3.2 Bug reported in UI form (instead of submitted to some now obsolete server), which can be copied/pasted or attached to Bugzilla. 4. Testing 4.1 Run all available tests (unit tests, smoketest, module integration tests, bvt, fvt, etc.) against 4.1.0 and 4.2.0, find and fix any regressions. Damjan On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 1:25 AM Matthias Seidel wrote: > Hi Jim, > > IMO, the situation hasn't changed so much. > > We should at least fix issue 125129 [1] before we release a (public) > beta. I have seen that Damjan is investigating... > > Then we need time to inform translators on l10n@ before we can export > the latest translations from Pootle. > At the moment most of them are at 98% for the UI but the SDF files still > need to be updated in source. > > Regards, > >Matthias > > [1] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125129 > > > Am 14.02.19 um 17:45 schrieb Jim Jagielski: > > Time for another ping... what does everyone think? Time? > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > >
