Introducing myself

2014-07-09 Thread Peter Kelly
Hi everyone, I've been following OpenOffice and ODF's evolution for quite some time now, and am interested in getting involved in the community, as I think there's some areas I could contribute to. I've previously had many discussions about this with Louis Suárez-Potts, who suggested I

OOXML documentation

2014-07-24 Thread Peter Kelly
Hi, I've begun writing up some documentation on the OOXML file format on the wiki: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/OOXML The new content is that linked to from the first section, currently limited to a description of the packaging format, extensibility features, and a brief introduction to

Re: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread Peter Kelly
On 2 Aug 2014, at 9:24 pm, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: The Support that is done is to receieve OOXML not to produce them, the discussion issue would be to support legacy formats like .doc or .xls. I still dont see a point to generate OOXML and most people dont care as long as

Re: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread Peter Kelly
On 3 Aug 2014, at 1:57 am, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: I too am on peter fast rolling waggon :-) but I am also confused. @peter maybe you could explain a couple of things, for non-document specialists: 1) Following your thought, with biderectional editors. Why would a editor have a home

Re: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread Peter Kelly
On 3 Aug 2014, at 3:05 am, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: In line with the sketch that Peter Kelley provides below, I am personally very sympathetic to the idea of having an internal model that can tolerate difference in format between input and output while preserving in

Change tracking versioning (was Re: OOXML)

2014-08-03 Thread Peter Kelly
On 3 Aug 2014, at 3:05 am, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: In line with the sketch that Peter Kelley provides below, I am personally very sympathetic to the idea of having an internal model that can tolerate difference in format between input and output while preserving in

Re: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread Peter Kelly
On 3 Aug 2014, at 6:52 pm, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: Peter Kelly schrieb: There's two ways to view a format: (1) as a way of encoding information for storage or transmission, and (2) as an in-memory data structure used by the editor at runtime. In some programs

Re: About debugging tokenizer of writerfilter

2014-08-08 Thread Peter Kelly
While I'm not familiar with the current filter implementation, the error you've run into does't look like it's the reason for your document not being processed correctly; the message indicates to me that it's not even getting to the point of being able to load the module necessary to do the

Why is it so hard to make a Java program appear native?

2014-08-11 Thread Peter Kelly
An interesting discussion I came across today: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/08/why-is-it-so-hard-to-make-a-java-program-appear-native/ (and yes I realise OO doesn't use Java for it's UI, but the points raised apply to all cross-platform UI toolkits). Question: To what

Re: Why is it so hard to make a Java program appear native?

2014-08-11 Thread Peter Kelly
On 11 Aug 2014, at 3:42 pm, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Question: To what extent is the OO UI frontend code separate from the backend editing, file format handling, and rendering code? I'm thinking in particular here of mobile - which demands a completely different approach to

Re: Why is it so hard to make a Java program appear native?

2014-08-11 Thread Peter Kelly
On 11 Aug 2014, at 3:14 pm, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/08/14 09:59, Peter Kelly wrote: An interesting discussion I came across today: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/08/why-is-it-so-hard-to-make-a-java-program-appear-native/ (and yes I realise OO

Re: how can I get source code of openoffice using git?

2014-08-12 Thread Peter Kelly
On 13 Aug 2014, at 8:26 am, wpzhonghuan wpzhongh...@gmail.com wrote: I sorry to send this email to ask the method that getting the source code using git, I have little idea about SVN. Hoping to get your reply. https://github.com/apache/openoffice -- Dr. Peter M. Kelly Founder, UX

DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

2014-08-15 Thread Peter Kelly
Those of you interested in OOXML may want to have a look at my own implementation of (a subset of) the spec, which is part of a library I've just made available as open source (license is ASLv2): https://github.com/uxproductivity/DocFormats I started working on this around two years ago as

Re: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

2014-08-15 Thread Peter Kelly
On 16 Aug 2014, at 5:26 am, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 15/08/2014 Peter Kelly wrote: Those of you interested in OOXML may want to have a look at my own implementation of (a subset of) the spec, which is part of a library I've just made available as open source (license

Re: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

2014-08-15 Thread Peter Kelly
On 16 Aug 2014, at 5:26 am, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Does this mean that $ dfutil/dfutil filename.docx filename.html $ dfutil/dfutil filename.html filename2.docx should produce a filename2.docx that is quite similar to filename.docx? It is failing rather badly (invalid

Re: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

2014-08-16 Thread Peter Kelly
On 16 Aug 2014, at 12:55 pm, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: I've also been fixing (or breaking, who knows!) some documentation on my clone (my fork as Github likes to call it) but I'll submit a pull request only when basic things work. I've just merged in your changes and also

Re: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

2014-08-16 Thread Peter Kelly
and requested for signed e-mail -Original Message- From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 01:10 To: dev Subject: Re: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation On 16 August 2014 03:50, Peter Kelly kelly...@gmail.com wrote: [ ... ] Now, onto

Re: Unofficial photos ApacheCon EU 2014

2014-11-23 Thread Peter Kelly
On 23 Nov 2014, at 10:38 am, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: It's Louis on the right, Peter Kelly at the podium, Steve Hathaway (see https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Capstone_2013_Client_Requirements_Document ) in the audience, and I think the hands on the left are Svante

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rejecting Quick Office Pro messages

2014-12-03 Thread Peter Kelly
On 3 Dec 2014, at 9:15 am, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: On 02 Dec2014, at 21:05, jonathon toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/12/14 00:01, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: The ® name for them is “Quickoffice®-Pro”. That is the name of the software. I've seen three or four