Re: Opengrok index upate issue

[Peter Kovacs]

I indexed with the wrong path.

Sorry.

Am 20.08.24 um 16:20 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

Am 16.08.24 um 22:13 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
i fear the issue remains. i am pretty sure it is the ownership of the 
folders.

Confirmed, the automatic re-indexing does not seem to work.


I am playing a bit around and updated the index today manually. there 
are still messages in the log.


Furthermore, the branches (trunk, AOO42X, AOO41X) are gone now, there 
are only sub-directories to choose now.


Regards,

   Matthias




Am 15.08.24 um 09:04 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

That fixed it, thank you!

"Last Index update Wed Aug 14 22:18:29 UTC 2024"

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 15.08.24 um 00:44 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

I fixed now ownership issues after syncing trunk manually.

next change i hope it works. i struggle a bit figuring out what is 
going on. but this was an warning in the tomcat log.


Am 15.08.24 um 00:20 schrieb Peter Kovacs:


Am 14.08.24 um 17:07 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

Am 14.08.24 um 00:48 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hi Matthias,

I updated now all git repos on the machine and added some config 
exclusion.


i hope this leads to an indexing of trunk. I check wednesday 
after work.


Dick has fixed a typo today (great find!) and after that commit I 
would have expected OpenGrok to re-index at 3 PM (UTC)...


So I think the connection between OpenGrok and our GitHub repo is 
broken.


no issues on the manual side. there is something else broken

maybe the sync script



Regards,

   Matthias



all the best

peter

Am 12.08.24 um 22:52 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

Am 12.08.24 um 22:48 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hi Matthias,


Am 12.08.24 um 22:43 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

Am 12.08.24 um 22:35 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hi all,

could not find the thread.

so I have updated the index manually.

Thanks!


can someone check if the status of git is fine and check if 
the index is now updating regulary?
The Index should update some time after something is 
committed on GitHub.

i see. thanks for the hint.


I check, but just in case i forget, help me, please.


It looks like the Index is up to date, but the Git revision 
is not. Things I already fixed in trunk are still visible.

can you check the AOO2xx branch, i updated that manually.

AOO42X seems to be up to date!


Maybe the connection to GitHub is the main problem?
i guess there is an issue with ownership on the machine. i 
check tomorrow.


Thanks!



Regards,

   Matthias




all the best

peter

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Re: Opengrok index upate issue

[Peter kovacs]

Ohh no. 
They worked on Saturday. I switched some permissions around in hope to fix it.
I check asap.

All the best
Peter

Am 20. August 2024 16:20:49 MESZ schrieb Matthias Seidel 
:
>Hi Peter,
>
>Am 16.08.24 um 22:13 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>> i fear the issue remains. i am pretty sure it is the ownership of the 
>> folders.
>Confirmed, the automatic re-indexing does not seem to work.
>> 
>> I am playing a bit around and updated the index today manually. there are 
>> still messages in the log.
>
>Furthermore, the branches (trunk, AOO42X, AOO41X) are gone now, there are only 
>sub-directories to choose now.
>
>Regards,
>
>   Matthias
>
>> 
>> 
>> Am 15.08.24 um 09:04 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> 
>>> That fixed it, thank you!
>>> 
>>> "Last Index update Wed Aug 14 22:18:29 UTC 2024"
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>>    Matthias
>>> 
>>> Am 15.08.24 um 00:44 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>>> I fixed now ownership issues after syncing trunk manually.
>>>> 
>>>> next change i hope it works. i struggle a bit figuring out what is going 
>>>> on. but this was an warning in the tomcat log.
>>>> 
>>>> Am 15.08.24 um 00:20 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 14.08.24 um 17:07 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 14.08.24 um 00:48 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>>>>>> Hi Matthias,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I updated now all git repos on the machine and added some config 
>>>>>>> exclusion.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> i hope this leads to an indexing of trunk. I check wednesday after work.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dick has fixed a typo today (great find!) and after that commit I would 
>>>>>> have expected OpenGrok to re-index at 3 PM (UTC)...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So I think the connection between OpenGrok and our GitHub repo is broken.
>>>>> 
>>>>> no issues on the manual side. there is something else broken
>>>>> 
>>>>> maybe the sync script
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>    Matthias
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> all the best
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> peter
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Am 12.08.24 um 22:52 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Am 12.08.24 um 22:48 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Matthias,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Am 12.08.24 um 22:43 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Am 12.08.24 um 22:35 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> could not find the thread.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> so I have updated the index manually.
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> can someone check if the status of git is fine and check if the 
>>>>>>>>>>> index is now updating regulary?
>>>>>>>>>> The Index should update some time after something is committed on 
>>>>>>>>>> GitHub.
>>>>>>>>> i see. thanks for the hint.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I check, but just in case i forget, help me, please.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It looks like the Index is up to date, but the Git revision is not. 
>>>>>>>>>> Things I already fixed in trunk are still visible.
>>>>>>>>> can you check the AOO2xx branch, i updated that manually.
>>>>>>>> AOO42X seems to be up to date!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe the connection to GitHub is the main problem?
>>>>>>>>> i guess there is an issue with ownership on the machine. i check 
>>>>>>>>> tomorrow.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>    Matthias
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> all the best
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> peter
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://opengrok.openoffice.org/
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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Re: Opengrok index upate issue

[Peter Kovacs]

i fear the issue remains. i am pretty sure it is the ownership of the 
folders.


I am playing a bit around and updated the index today manually. there 
are still messages in the log.



Am 15.08.24 um 09:04 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

That fixed it, thank you!

"Last Index update Wed Aug 14 22:18:29 UTC 2024"

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 15.08.24 um 00:44 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

I fixed now ownership issues after syncing trunk manually.

next change i hope it works. i struggle a bit figuring out what is 
going on. but this was an warning in the tomcat log.


Am 15.08.24 um 00:20 schrieb Peter Kovacs:


Am 14.08.24 um 17:07 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

Am 14.08.24 um 00:48 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hi Matthias,

I updated now all git repos on the machine and added some config 
exclusion.


i hope this leads to an indexing of trunk. I check wednesday after 
work.


Dick has fixed a typo today (great find!) and after that commit I 
would have expected OpenGrok to re-index at 3 PM (UTC)...


So I think the connection between OpenGrok and our GitHub repo is 
broken.


no issues on the manual side. there is something else broken

maybe the sync script



Regards,

   Matthias



all the best

peter

Am 12.08.24 um 22:52 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

Am 12.08.24 um 22:48 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hi Matthias,


Am 12.08.24 um 22:43 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

Am 12.08.24 um 22:35 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hi all,

could not find the thread.

so I have updated the index manually.

Thanks!


can someone check if the status of git is fine and check if 
the index is now updating regulary?
The Index should update some time after something is committed 
on GitHub.

i see. thanks for the hint.


I check, but just in case i forget, help me, please.


It looks like the Index is up to date, but the Git revision is 
not. Things I already fixed in trunk are still visible.

can you check the AOO2xx branch, i updated that manually.

AOO42X seems to be up to date!


Maybe the connection to GitHub is the main problem?
i guess there is an issue with ownership on the machine. i check 
tomorrow.


Thanks!



Regards,

   Matthias




all the best

peter

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Re: Opengrok index upate issue

[Peter Kovacs]

I fixed now ownership issues after syncing trunk manually.

next change i hope it works. i struggle a bit figuring out what is going 
on. but this was an warning in the tomcat log.


Am 15.08.24 um 00:20 schrieb Peter Kovacs:


Am 14.08.24 um 17:07 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

Am 14.08.24 um 00:48 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hi Matthias,

I updated now all git repos on the machine and added some config 
exclusion.


i hope this leads to an indexing of trunk. I check wednesday after 
work.


Dick has fixed a typo today (great find!) and after that commit I 
would have expected OpenGrok to re-index at 3 PM (UTC)...


So I think the connection between OpenGrok and our GitHub repo is 
broken.


no issues on the manual side. there is something else broken

maybe the sync script



Regards,

   Matthias



all the best

peter

Am 12.08.24 um 22:52 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

Am 12.08.24 um 22:48 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hi Matthias,


Am 12.08.24 um 22:43 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

Am 12.08.24 um 22:35 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hi all,

could not find the thread.

so I have updated the index manually.

Thanks!


can someone check if the status of git is fine and check if the 
index is now updating regulary?
The Index should update some time after something is committed on 
GitHub.

i see. thanks for the hint.


I check, but just in case i forget, help me, please.


It looks like the Index is up to date, but the Git revision is 
not. Things I already fixed in trunk are still visible.

can you check the AOO2xx branch, i updated that manually.

AOO42X seems to be up to date!


Maybe the connection to GitHub is the main problem?
i guess there is an issue with ownership on the machine. i check 
tomorrow.


Thanks!



Regards,

   Matthias




all the best

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Re: Opengrok index upate issue

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 14.08.24 um 17:07 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

Am 14.08.24 um 00:48 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hi Matthias,

I updated now all git repos on the machine and added some config 
exclusion.


i hope this leads to an indexing of trunk. I check wednesday after work.


Dick has fixed a typo today (great find!) and after that commit I 
would have expected OpenGrok to re-index at 3 PM (UTC)...


So I think the connection between OpenGrok and our GitHub repo is broken.


no issues on the manual side. there is something else broken

maybe the sync script



Regards,

   Matthias



all the best

peter

Am 12.08.24 um 22:52 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

Am 12.08.24 um 22:48 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hi Matthias,


Am 12.08.24 um 22:43 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

Am 12.08.24 um 22:35 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hi all,

could not find the thread.

so I have updated the index manually.

Thanks!


can someone check if the status of git is fine and check if the 
index is now updating regulary?
The Index should update some time after something is committed on 
GitHub.

i see. thanks for the hint.


I check, but just in case i forget, help me, please.


It looks like the Index is up to date, but the Git revision is 
not. Things I already fixed in trunk are still visible.

can you check the AOO2xx branch, i updated that manually.

AOO42X seems to be up to date!


Maybe the connection to GitHub is the main problem?
i guess there is an issue with ownership on the machine. i check 
tomorrow.


Thanks!



Regards,

   Matthias




all the best

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updating the translation process

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello all.

as you all know the translation process is stuck. Let me sum up the 
process, issue and my proposed solution.


the basics

We still use a SDF- definition file for our UI elements. The main 
benefit is that it is small. The larger po-files are used by pootle.


This makes it necessary that we convert the Sdf file into a po-file and 
vice versa.


the pootle team still maintains a converter tool, which can do the job.

we have a script that automates the process. the script uses a git repo 
to counter errors.



What issues do we currently have?

- the translation tool is needs a newer python version, and the version 
available in the distribution does not work


- the process with git is a local safety measure.

- the script uses pootle installed tools, for extraction.

- pootle is out of maintenance using a out dated version of django and 
python 2



As you see we have different issues that block this topic.

The po file format is used by other open source translation tools so we 
can easily switch. This is why i would like to switch the translation 
tool at the end.


first i would like to get the conversion process running. I think it 
would be best if we build the conversion in github.


for this we need another translation repository.

the idea would be that

1) nighties exports sdf on build bot

2) nighties pushes the export to github. i think on a sdf branch

3) trigger creates the conversion to po file and pushes the changes into 
a po branch. (using actions)


4) translation service pulls the po branch and imports it.


This differs a bit from the current process, which does not is working 
locally and involves fetch from nighties and then local build. With the 
issue of meeting requirements on the server.


any ideas, concerns or questions?

all the best

peter


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Re: Opengrok index upate issue

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Matthias,

I updated now all git repos on the machine and added some config exclusion.

i hope this leads to an indexing of trunk. I check wednesday after work.

all the best

peter

Am 12.08.24 um 22:52 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

Am 12.08.24 um 22:48 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hi Matthias,


Am 12.08.24 um 22:43 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

Am 12.08.24 um 22:35 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hi all,

could not find the thread.

so I have updated the index manually.

Thanks!


can someone check if the status of git is fine and check if the 
index is now updating regulary?
The Index should update some time after something is committed on 
GitHub.

i see. thanks for the hint.


I check, but just in case i forget, help me, please.


It looks like the Index is up to date, but the Git revision is not. 
Things I already fixed in trunk are still visible.

can you check the AOO2xx branch, i updated that manually.

AOO42X seems to be up to date!


Maybe the connection to GitHub is the main problem?
i guess there is an issue with ownership on the machine. i check 
tomorrow.


Thanks!



Regards,

   Matthias




all the best

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Re: Opengrok index upate issue

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Matthias,


Am 12.08.24 um 22:43 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

Am 12.08.24 um 22:35 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hi all,

could not find the thread.

so I have updated the index manually.

Thanks!


can someone check if the status of git is fine and check if the index 
is now updating regulary?

The Index should update some time after something is committed on GitHub.

i see. thanks for the hint.


I check, but just in case i forget, help me, please.


It looks like the Index is up to date, but the Git revision is not. 
Things I already fixed in trunk are still visible.

can you check the AOO2xx branch, i updated that manually.


Maybe the connection to GitHub is the main problem?

i guess there is an issue with ownership on the machine. i check tomorrow.


Regards,

   Matthias




all the best

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Opengrok index upate issue

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi all,

could not find the thread.

so I have updated the index manually.

can someone check if the status of git is fine and check if the index is 
now updating regulary?


I check, but just in case i forget, help me, please.


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Re: Integrating OpenOffice into a Web-Based Application

[Peter kovacs]

Hi Ian,

The only Open Source attempt i am aware of is LibreOffice Online (discontinued) 
and only office.
In case of LibreOffice Online you can check out Collaboras code publication as 
Dave mentioned, but this is to my knowledge not really open Source, because 
otherwise TDF would not have discontinued libreOffice online. But I have not 
followed the details. My understanding might be wrong.

I am not a fan of the Approach of putting AOO on a server and believe it is 
save. AOO is not made for a server usage. It is made to be easily extended on a 
desktop system. Once the GUI is exploitable through the web you have a security 
nightmare to distinguish valid from illegit changes to the system. There are a 
lot of things to be thought about.

@collaboration
Collaboration is maybe thought of an independent module. maybe exchanging 
changes through a matrix channel. This is something AOO could support as a 
desktop app and you have less dependencies on a web GUI for example.
Also if combined with a git document versioning there could be ways to support 
users collaboration Ina n easier way.

@web GUI approach
None the less a web UI could be done by implementing a new interface. Basically 
you need to extend the GUI classes. If I would have to design. That I think the 
best approach would be to write a J2EE frontend with HTML5.
You can check out in the code how gtk, qt, windows and Mac UI are implemented 
and you add one with a J2EE approach

Another approach is to check out the GUI less mode that AOO has, there are 
GitHub Repos on the web that work with this as an interface. But the GUI less 
approach is not made to scale. Using this would mean to spin up a new AOO insta 
CE for each user. How those communicate I don't know.

My 2 cents
Peter

Am 2. August 2024 07:42:43 MESZ schrieb "石 尹賢" :
>Dear OpenOffice team,
>I am writing to inquire about the feasibility of integrating OpenOffice into a 
>web-based system.
>We are aiming to develop a platform that allows users to edit and save 
>spreadsheets similar to offline Microsoft Excel, but with the added benefits 
>of online collaboration and centralized data storage. While Google 
>Spreadsheets offers these functionalities, we have concerns regarding data 
>confidentiality.
>Our proposed system would:
>
>  *   Provide a user-friendly interface: Mimicking the familiar experience of 
> using offline Excel.
>  *   Enable real-time collaboration: Multiple users can edit the same 
> spreadsheet simultaneously.
>  *   Offer secure cloud storage: Protecting sensitive data from unauthorized 
> access.
>
>Specifically, we would like to know if it is possible to:
>
>  1.  Embed OpenOffice into a web application: Are there any existing examples 
> or tutorials that could guide us in this process?
>  2.  Customize the saved file format: Can we modify OpenOffice to save data 
> in a format that is more suitable for our database (e.g., PostgreSQL)? 
> Ideally, we would like to break down the spreadsheet data into individual 
> records for better organization and querying.
>
>Key considerations for us include:
>
>  *   Performance: The system should be responsive and handle large datasets 
> efficiently.
>  *   Security: We need to ensure that data is encrypted both in transit and 
> at rest.
>  *   Scalability: The system should be able to accommodate a growing number 
> of users and data.
>
>We believe that OpenOffice, with its powerful features and open-source nature, 
>would be an ideal foundation for our project. Any insights or guidance you can 
>provide would be greatly appreciated.
>Thank you for your time and consideration.
>Sincerely,
>Ian Shih

Re: MIME types for WMF/EMF

[Peter kovacs]

Sorry for the top posting.
But +1 from my side too.

Am 3. März 2024 11:53:20 MEZ schrieb Arrigo Marchiori :
>Dear All,
>
>On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 02:08:24PM +0100, Marcus wrote:
>
>> Am 22.02.24 um 20:41 schrieb Pedro Lino:
>> > > On 02/22/2024 4:01 PM WET Damjan Jovanovic  wrote:
>> > 
>> > > Should we change the MIME types to "image/wmf" and "image/emf"? We would
>> > > presumably also keep aliases like "image/x-wmf" and "image/x-emf". 
>> > > Inkscape
>> > > can paste "image/x-emf". Should we keep the existing MIME types as 
>> > > aliases
>> > > too, so we can copy and paste to and from LibreOffice?
>> > 
>> > +1 on changing  the MIME types to improve compatibility with Inkscape and 
>> > other programs.
>> > I'm not sure LO still uses the same types. In my experience copying from 
>> > LO to AOO usually doesn't work that well (at least under Windows)
>> 
>> +1 to change MIME types and keep the aliases.
>
>+1 for me too.
>
>Best regards,
>-- 
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Re: Pootle Server Update

[Peter kovacs]

Hi all,
Getting the translation integration running and migrating to a different we 
frontend are in my opinion 2 different things.
I have planed to look into the translation tomorrow. But I am still unsure how 
that works out.

I want to open a hotbox repository for translations.
And the check if we can optimize the process there a bit.

All the best
Peter


Am 17. Februar 2024 11:44:32 MEZ schrieb Matthias Seidel 
:
>Hi All,
>
>Any news on this one? What is the status of the translation process?
>
>Without a working translation we are unable to do a new release. I think we 
>should start NOW if we ever want to do release AOO 4.2.0 (I still assume that 
>we want to do that).
>
>Regards,
>
>   Matthias
>
>Am 01.11.23 um 19:37 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> The OpenOffice project wishes to update the Pootle server 
>> (translate.Apache.org) that we share to translation software that is 
>> maintained. Pootle development stopped over four years ago.
>> 
>> Please let OpenOffice know if you still use the service and if you do would 
>> you like to cooperate on the upgrade?
>> 
>> For OpenOffice,
>> Dave
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: AOO will have a booth at Chemnitzer Linux-Tage 2024

[Peter kovacs]

I forgot the posters on froscom. Sadly I am busy on 16th and 17th March.
Let me check if I can get into the Ruhr Gebiet before this date. I can 
hopefully clarify tomorrow.
If not I send it per post.

All the best
Peter

Am 17. Februar 2024 12:23:59 MEZ schrieb Matthias Seidel 
:
>Hi,
>
>Am 09.02.24 um 12:48 schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> we will have a booth at Chemnitzer Linux-Tage 2024 again.
>> 
>> Date is the 16th and 17th of March 2024 and the place is Chemnitz in Germany.
>Great!
>> 
>> Helpers are welcome.
>
>I will not be able to attend.
>
>But I have sent new AOO posters to Peter last year (for FROScon).
>
>Did he hand over them to you? We should NOT use the old (totally outdated) 
>posters anymore...
>
>Regards,
>
>   Matthias
>
>> 
>> You will find more about this great event at
>> 
>> https://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2024/en
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 

Status peter & help for facebook

[Peter kovacs]

Hello all,

I am currently very occupied with work and have not much energy left for AOO. I 
hope for improvement but I do not know when this will occur.

I check the Facebook page from time to time. And answer comments. I did even 
write a short heads up for 4.1.15

Arrigo wanted to help, but I lack the admin rights in order to add him, and 
Facebook support was not really helpful. 
Can someone ask on @Members for help to sort the Facebook page out? We need 
someone from Facebook to enable us again to manage the page.

Thanks and all the best
Peter

Feedback from facebook

[Peter kovacs]

Hello all,

A message from Facebook:
> Sadly that verygood application that work well 
> have only few people following.
>
> even me... I using Apache OpenOffice for several > years. but just wanna find 
> the open office page in > facebook today.
>
> Thank you for everybody in the Open Office team 
> that still working , still developing for people ^^

All the best 
peter

Re: Developer - Interested in Helping

[Peter kovacs]

Hello Derek,

Welcome to Apache OpenOffice Projekt. Any volunteer is welcome to help.

You can create Pull request through GitHub. After some time of successful 
participation we will grant you committer rights.

Coding. Our codebase is not modern, we work with GCC++98 standard.
A switch to c++11 is not in scope at this moment.
Please note the Projekt still officially supports windowsXP and an old MacOS  
lion (I think) version.

There are currently 2 main coding initiatives ongoing:
1) eliminate 4.2.0 regression issues, and get 4.2.0 release ready.
2) replace the build environment with Scon. The current build environment is 
fragile.

Other topics I have noted done in the wishlist on confluence, which is public.

I hope this helps. If you need specific urls I can provide them later. 
Currently I am not at a computer.
If there is something you need just ask or open a discussion with the headline 
accordingly.

Welcome!
All the best
Peter

Am 26. November 2023 00:22:48 MEZ schrieb Derek :
>   Hello,
>
> 
>
>   I am interested in helping with the development of Open Office. 
> I have a tremendous amount of experience with coding in C#, and I am familiar 
> with C++. I am very good at finding ways to make code more efficient as well. 
> Recently, I brought an API that was taking ~10-15 minutes to run down to ~1-3 
> seconds for a client. I’m not exaggerating on that either. 😊
>
> 
>
>   If it matters, I am a native English speaker and I am fluent in 
> Spanish as well.
>
> 
>
>   Anyway, I would like to know about volunteering to help with 
> coding tasks. Thank you!
>
> 
>
>   Derek Jenkins
>

Re: Add Mongolian to Pootle?

[Peter kovacs]

I am sorry. For my lack of participation.
Just a short summary.
I have noted the todos on the wishlist in confluence but maybe it is to rough.

We use for migrating between Po files and SDF the translation kit from pootle. 
It is an own independand package. The latest version uses an newer Python 
Version then available on the server.
So we need to move to the latest python /translation kit version.

However pootle itself needs python 2.7 and is not developed anymore. This means 
it has an old Django version. We should look into replacing pootle. However we 
have a lot of strings and text and Multifile setup. So this might be not as 
easy as it sounds.

I have tried to create a docker image to become more independand from the 
machine and encapsolule the Po to SDF conversion. But that needs to be tested. 
On the server I have installed podman to run the docker image. But you need to 
run in interactive mode.

Also maybe we need to check if we open up a gitbox repository for the 
translation files. Since the changes are checked in in a git repository.

In mechtilde home folder you find the scripts we used  so far. There is also 
the repository.
I think I copied the repository also to the /x folder.

I have a local documentation of mechtildes scripts.  I have to move this into 
confluence. That Todo may be missing.

I hope this quick summary helps. All the best
Peter


Am 11. Oktober 2023 19:02:58 MESZ schrieb Matthias Seidel 
:
>Hi Dave,
>
>Am 11.10.23 um 18:59 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2023, at 1:56 PM, Matthias Seidel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Pedro,
>>> 
 Am 11.10.23 um 13:14 schrieb Pedro Lino:
 Hi Matthias
 
 Yes, of course.
 If there are people willing to contribute, there is no reason not to 
 include it.
 Let me know if my help is useful :)
>>> Well, I only asked, since I am not able to do it... ;-)
>>> 
>>> And I am not really sure if we can do it at the moment, since the server 
>>> needs attention.
>> Please describe what attention the server needs either here or on sysadmin@ 
>> so that someone (likely me) can take the needed action.
>
>Peter and Mechtilde know better than me (even if I have administrative rights 
>in Pootle).
>
>All I know is that we are not able to provide new SDF files.
>
>Regards,
>
>   Matthias
>
>> 
>> Best,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Matthias
>>> 
 Best,
 Pedro
 
>> On 10/10/2023 2:09 PM WEST Matthias Seidel  
>> wrote:
>   Hi All,
> 
> I see a lot of activity at the Mongolian dictionary.
> 
> Should we add Mongolian to Pootle to enable translation?
> 
> We could try to import some strings from our source:
> 
> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/tree/trunk/extras/l10n/source/mn
> 
> Regards,
> 
>  Matthias
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Re: 4.2.0 release blockers

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 01.10.23 um 13:44 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:

Hi

So for 4.2.0, presumably we need to fix the bugs with 4.2.0_release_blocker
flags:
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?f1=flagtypes.name&list_id=251353&o1=substring&query_format=advanced&resolution=---&v1=4.2.0_release_blocker
of which there is 6:

For 127731, I found the problem yesterday (Microsoft's damned side-by-side
assemblies), and am building AOO with my fix now, if all goes well it
should be committed later today or tomorrow.
127783 needs testing on several platforms to isolate the bug, now that
Arrigo's ppt branch was merged.
127861 will probably need bisecting.
128094 is probably a packaging bug and needs testing and might need
bisecting.

sadly I suck with c++ debuggers.

127154 and 127966 need to be looked at by a Mac developer.


please note we have 2 project MacMinis. A intel and a m1 based system.

they are based in the US, the plan has been to set them up as build 
bots. (still on this topic)


However in meanwhile i found out that you are not able to build on the 
new processors for intel.


But the intel one is available to all who do not own a apple device but 
need to test or develop something for AOO.



All the best.



Regards
Damjan



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Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice in the news

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 27.09.23 um 17:14 schrieb Brian Proffitt:

Since the marketing list was closes earlier this year, I'll toss this here.

As I am sure some of you are no doubt aware, there was yet-another
call for the ASF to drop your project that made a brief blip in the
media cycle earlier this week:
https://rocket9labs.com/post/its-time-to-let-go-apache-software-foundation/
You find a lot of people who have strong believes in this direction. But 
at the same time they lack a lot of individual knowledge.


Variations of this argument has been repeatedly made over the course
of OpenOffice's tenure within the ASF, and while M&P has no plans to
respond to this article or any others along these lines, I would be
remiss if I didn't recommend to the PMC that some sort of response
from the project itself (either through a statement, future roadmap, a
new release, etc.) would be a good idea.
What do you suggest? We do not have a clear way forward. I have put 
together a Whishlist [1], which is the closest thing I am aware of to a 
roadmap.


The fact of the matter is that because of its download popularity, the
status of OpenOffice has a very strong perceptual effect on the rest
of the ASF. So, if OpenOffice is perceived as a "dead" project, that
potentially propagates the myth that ASF is a place where projects go
to die.


Imho you fight windmills. The OpenLetter is the starting point, of this 
chapter.


Usually all rants start there. Whoever tackles this needs to be a envoy 
and a diplomat. The gambit is the TDF. Only if the TDF publicly support 
the ASF and AOO, the situation will improve.


This does not mean that we merge. However I would like to see a merge 
for multiple reasons.



Again, this is just a recommendation. As long as OpenOffice abides by
the governance of the ASF, you are free to make your own choices. Let
me know if you need assistance in addressing this issue, happy to
volunteer some time to it.


I do not believe that the PMC can do anything. What would give us 
leverage is if we can get the code under control (release 4.2 , new 
build environment).


 We need to do improvements in the code, and align together that we 
focus on the right tasks.


But if you have suggestions what we can communicate I am willing to 
hear. I mean I owe you all a report from Froscon. I am so sorry I did 
not find the time and muse yet to finish my report.


I wanted to start also some clothes discussion for next year.

One thing is, i am currently the only one who can post on facebook. 
since i currently dont use it, there is no one. but I lack authority to 
bring volunteers in. someone needs to talk to FB. I dont know what to do 
here.



All the best

Peter


[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Wishlist



Peace,
BKP

Brian Proffitt
VP, Marketing & Publicity

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Re: facebook

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 22.08.23 um 22:59 schrieb Peter Kovacs:


Am 22.08.23 um 21:50 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:

Hello All,

I am sorry for chiming in very late.

On Tue, Jul 04, 2023 at 02:36:21PM +0200, Matthias Seidel wrote:


Hi Peter, All,

Am 02.07.23 um 17:35 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Am 02.07.23 um 16:03 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

Am 19.06.23 um 22:57 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hello all,


I have not logged into Facebook for quite some time. Can someone 
take

over?

Can it be shared?
it should be able, but sadly it seems i am not an admin or i fail to 
read the guide...


I am no Facebook expert, but I was pulled into a sort of ``business''
account and now I can choose whether to impersonate myself or that
business.

This sort of sharing allows many people to cooperate in managing a
Facebook account.

Is it already so? Could we just share this burden instead of moving it
from a single person to another?

yes, i need your account and can add you.


If we have no volunteer for Facebook, we should shut that profile 
down

sooner or later...

+1
That said, we should not remove the account, but simply state that 
it is

not maintained actively.

Plus we should redirect users that look for help to our other 
resources...

+1

Sending ``canned'' replies to Facebook queries such as ``Write to the
dev@ mailing lists or to the forums'' could be a group effort.

What do you think?

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Re: facebook

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 22.08.23 um 21:50 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:

Hello All,

I am sorry for chiming in very late.

On Tue, Jul 04, 2023 at 02:36:21PM +0200, Matthias Seidel wrote:


Hi Peter, All,

Am 02.07.23 um 17:35 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Am 02.07.23 um 16:03 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

Am 19.06.23 um 22:57 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hello all,


I have not logged into Facebook for quite some time. Can someone take
over?

Can it be shared?

I am no Facebook expert, but I was pulled into a sort of ``business''
account and now I can choose whether to impersonate myself or that
business.

This sort of sharing allows many people to cooperate in managing a
Facebook account.

Is it already so? Could we just share this burden instead of moving it
from a single person to another?

yes, i need your account and can add you.



If we have no volunteer for Facebook, we should shut that profile down
sooner or later...

+1

That said, we should not remove the account, but simply state that it is
not maintained actively.

Plus we should redirect users that look for help to our other resources...

+1

Sending ``canned'' replies to Facebook queries such as ``Write to the
dev@ mailing lists or to the forums'' could be a group effort.

What do you think?

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Re: AOO Discord server

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello all,

sorry for the late response.

we do have a slack and irc channel. Since we use twitter & facebook I 
see no generic issue to open a discord server.


However we need then people to care. Who would help moderate the server?


all the best

Peter

Am 10.03.23 um 17:14 schrieb Xavier Verbrèghe:

Hello,
I don't think it's disturbing. Indeed, OpenStreetMap and Wikipedia (and
other Wikimedia projects) have their discord server (in English and French).
Regards
Manjiro5

Le jeu. 9 mars 2023 à 10:30, Bidouille  a écrit :


Discord is under proprietary license
seeming contradiction no?

- Mail original -

De: "Xavier Verbrèghe" 
À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Envoyé: Mercredi 8 Mars 2023 17:24:51
Objet: AOO Discord server

Hello, I would like to know if AOO has a Discord server .
Thanks in advance

Regards,
Manjiro5


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Re: sot module build failures with recent gcc

[Peter Kovacs]

hello Don,

were you able to look into this, or the freeBsd volunteer.

I can try to put together a report for gcc if you still like that to be 
done.



all the best

peter

Am 01.04.23 um 20:12 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:

Hello Don, All,

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 11:58:06PM -0700, Don Lewis wrote:


A FreeBSD user is trying to unbreak the ppc64 build and ran into an
issue with the sot module.  I dig into it pretty deeply and it looks to
me like a gcc bug.  It's reproducable in amd64.  It seems to affect
gcc10, gcc11, and gcc12 builds.  The build failure does not happen with
gcc9.

It is not limited to FreeBSD.  I get the same failure on Debian
bullseye:
  cc --version
cc (Debian 10.2.1-6) 10.2.1 20210110
Copyright (C) 2020 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

[ build LNK ] Library/libsot.so
/usr/bin/ld: 
/home/dl/aoo/openoffice/main/solver/4111/unxlngx6.pro/workdir/CxxObject/sot/source/sdstor/ucbstorage.o:
 in function `UCBStorage_Impl::Init()':
ucbstorage.cxx:(.text+0x72b4): undefined reference to `non-virtual thunk to 
cppu::WeakImplHelper1::acquire()'
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status


The problem appears to be that gcc is getting confused when compiling
line 1884 of ucbstorage.cxx.  It ends up trying to call the thunk to the
acquire() method of a non-existent class.  That thunk isn't defined, so
the linker bombs on the undefined symbol.

I reproduced it with OpenSUSE Linux Leap 15.4, using the provided gcc-10.

However, the problem seems to be at line 1879:


com::sun::star::uno::Reference < ::com::sun::star::io::XInputStream > 
xInputStream( pHelper );

It seems to compile if we split it as follows:


com::sun::star::uno::Reference < ::com::sun::star::io::XInputStream > 
xInputStream;
xInputStream = pHelper;

This _should_ work as it is how method
Reference UCBStorageStream_Impl::GetXInputStream()
does: it returns an instance of Reference on which
it calls calls operator= with a OInputStreamWrapper

I have no idea how to test this, though.

Can you please verify if the above restores compilation?

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Re: Small regression in trunk/AOO42X

[Peter Kovacs]

I could not find a change within the files that define the message.

I am not sure what the cause could be anyone with Ideas?

Maybe some option had been added? Could this be the issue here?

Am 28.07.23 um 21:05 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi All,

We have a small regression in trunk/AOO42X.

If AOO opens a file that was saved in e.g. ODF 1.3 then we get a warning
message. See:

https://github.com/apache/openoffice/blob/trunk/main/uui/source/newerverwarn.cxx

AOO41X:

https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/NewerVersionWarning%20-%20AOO41X.png

Trunk/AOO42X:

https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/NewerVersionWarning%20-%20Trunk+AOO42X.png

Obviously, the small graphic is missing.

The module "uui" was ported to gbuild with:

https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/ab743807b799a9a7cae9159a43d3e8cd39b0ba97

The "missing" graphic is here:

https://github.com/apache/openoffice/blob/trunk/main/default_images/res/versionwarning.png

Where does gbuild expect the graphic to be?

Maybe we can fix that issue together...

Regards,

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dependency tool

[Peter Kovacs]

just wanted to note:

I tried today a dependency graph to create something automatic. this one 
is written in python so easy to start of with.


https://github.com/pvigier/dependency-graph


it took all day and it did not finish. lets see if there is something else


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Re: issues with building nss

[Peter Kovacs]

Ok, I solved the issue for now by commenting lines out in Werror.mk :

line 98 - 104:

  # ifeq ($(NSS_ENABLE_WERROR),1)
  WARNING_CFLAGS += -Werror
   # else
  # Old versions of gcc (< 4.8) don't support #pragma diagnostic in 
functions.
  # Use this to disable use of that #pragma and the warnings it 
suppresses.

   #   WARNING_CFLAGS += -DNSS_NO_GCC48
   # endif

Next question is how to set NSS_ENABLE_WERROR in our configuration in 
order to enhance build ability on various systems.


Am 27.07.23 um 00:33 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hi all,


I have an issue building nss. does anyone know what todo with this error?


../../../../pr/src/io/pripv6.c:135:14:error: variable 'rv' set but not 
used [-Werror=unused-but-set-variable]

 135 | PRStatus rv;
 | ^~
../../../../pr/src/io/pripv6.c:In function 'Ipv6ToIpv4SocketAcceptRead':
../../../../pr/src/io/pripv6.c:173:14:error: variable 'rv' set but not 
used [-Werror=unused-but-set-variable]

 173 | PRStatus rv;
 | ^~


I have set :

export CFLAGS='-Wno-unused-variable -Wno-stringop-truncation 
-Wno-unused-but-set-variable'
export CXXFLAGS='--std=gnu++98 -Wno-unused-variable 
-Wno-stringop-truncation -Wno-unused-but-set-variable'



I build with

Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS

thanks for any ideas

all the best

peter



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issues with building nss

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi all,


I have an issue building nss. does anyone know what todo with this error?


../../../../pr/src/io/pripv6.c:135:14:error: variable 'rv' set but not 
used [-Werror=unused-but-set-variable]

 135 | PRStatus rv;
 | ^~
../../../../pr/src/io/pripv6.c:In function 'Ipv6ToIpv4SocketAcceptRead':
../../../../pr/src/io/pripv6.c:173:14:error: variable 'rv' set but not 
used [-Werror=unused-but-set-variable]

 173 | PRStatus rv;
 | ^~


I have set :

export CFLAGS='-Wno-unused-variable -Wno-stringop-truncation 
-Wno-unused-but-set-variable'
export CXXFLAGS='--std=gnu++98 -Wno-unused-variable 
-Wno-stringop-truncation -Wno-unused-but-set-variable'



I build with

Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS

thanks for any ideas

all the best

peter

Re: doc file made Word hang

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello Regina,

Thank you for the link. Since the plcbteChpx refers to data Objects, do 
you have a reference file to inspect?


All the best

Peter

Am 25.07.23 um 18:31 schrieb Regina Henschel:
I was told by an employee of Microsoft, that OpenOffice produces a 
file which made Word hang. Word deals with the hang in the meantime, 
nevertheless OpenOffice should not produce such file. The problem in 
the doc file was described to me as:


Word expects that every character of text in the document has some 
record of character level formatting in plcbteChpx as detailed in the 
DOC file spec here: 
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/openspecs/office_file_formats/ms-doc/ccd7b486-7881-484c-a137-51170af7cc22 
 Unfortunately, the plcbteChpx ends a few characters shy of the end of 
the document, leaving the final paragraph marker without any data, 
possibly the section mark character as well.


Kind regards,
Regina


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Re: Experience using WSL2 on Windows

[Peter Kovacs]

[1] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/tutorials/gui-apps

Am 22.06.23 um 10:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi,

Am 22.06.23 um 08:14 schrieb DurgaPrasad Potnuru:

Hi Keith
Bit curious. WSL2 is command line, how would you be checking the desktop
app on the same?

WSL2 is capable to run graphical Linux applications.

At least simple ones, like gedit or gtkhash run on my Windows 10. I
would be curious if AOO would even start...


according to Microsoft documendtation you can run gimp. see [1]

worth a try




But for real testing I recommend virtual machines with standard Linux
distributions.

Regards,

    Matthias


On Thu, 22 Jun, 2023, 1:35 am Keith N. McKenna, 
wrote:


I have been considering WSL2 on a Windows 11 system to be able to better
contribute to the QA process by having a Linux version of AOO to run
Bugzilla entries against as well as my Windows system.

If anyone has any experience with WSL I would be interested in hearing
about any pros and cons anyone has had with it

Regards
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FrOSCon 2023.

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello All,


Free Software and Open Source are topics at the FrOSCon. The event will 
come about from the 5th to the 6th of August.
Apache OpenOffice will be present as an exhibitor. If you visit FrOSCon, 
stop by for a meetup.
We hope to have something exciting to tell. I am looking forward to 
writing a blog post.



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Re: facebook

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 02.07.23 um 16:03 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

Am 19.06.23 um 22:57 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hello all,


I have not logged into Facebook for quite some time. Can someone take
over?

If we have no volunteer for Facebook, we should shut that profile down
sooner or later...

+1


Regards,

    Matthias



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Re: Experience using WSL2 on Windows

[Peter Kovacs]

this is just a shot in the blue.

maybe we could apply for some support through Azure.

https://opensource.microsoft.com/azure-credits/#credits-overview

that could provide us a win remote test instance that can be used when 
needed.


All the best

Peter


Am 22.06.23 um 21:24 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:

Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi,

Am 22.06.23 um 08:14 schrieb DurgaPrasad Potnuru:

Hi Keith
Bit curious. WSL2 is command line, how would you be checking the 
desktop

app on the same?


WSL2 is capable to run graphical Linux applications.

At least simple ones, like gedit or gtkhash run on my Windows 10. I
would be curious if AOO would even start...

But for real testing I recommend virtual machines with standard Linux
distributions.

Regards,

    Matthias



Thanks all. I was afraid that might be the answer. Unfortunately I do 
not have the drive capacity at this point to set-up a VM.


Regards
Keith



On Thu, 22 Jun, 2023, 1:35 am Keith N. McKenna, 


wrote:

I have been considering WSL2 on a Windows 11 system to be able to 
better

contribute to the QA process by having a Linux version of AOO to run
Bugzilla entries against as well as my Windows system.

If anyone has any experience with WSL I would be interested in hearing
about any pros and cons anyone has had with it

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facebook

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello all,


I have not logged into Facebook for quite some time. Can someone take over?


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Re: Icons proposal

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I wonder what the steps are to get the icons bundled or to bundle it 
into an extension?


Does anyone Know? If so it would be great to know what the next steps 
are, to get this into AOO.



Am 15.04.23 um 19:00 schrieb Xavier Verbrèghe:

Sorry Dave and Bidouille for my anger ;-)

Le sam. 15 avr. 2023 à 18:59, Xavier Verbrèghe <
corentin.verbreg...@gmail.com> a écrit :


Sorry for my outburst, do you think that despite the fact that there is a
slight resemblance to the icons of LO, these would be good icons? Have a
nice day
Regards,
Manjiro5

Le jeu. 13 avr. 2023 à 21:42, Dave Fisher  a
écrit :


Xavier,

Thank you for your proposed icons. I’m sorry that your response to a live
discussion about them has caused you to claim that AOO is dead.

All the best,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 13, 2023, at 7:02 AM, Xavier Verbrèghe <

corentin.verbreg...@gmail.com> wrote:

At least LibreOffice is not dead unlike AOO and its dated appearance

has

finished it. LO used AOO and not the other way around, so we can change.
Furthermore, LO and AOO will not be confused because it is absurd to

have

the 2 software on your computer. I understand your attachment to the AOO
from a decade ago


Le jeu. 13 avr. 2023 à 15:13, Dave  a écrit :




On 10/04/2023 19:56, Xavier Verbreghe wrote:
Hi, I wanted to show you the icons I made to potentially replace the

AOO

base icons in the future.

I made icons for software (Writer, Base, Draw, Math, Impress, Calc),

but

also for different filetypes.

Could you take a look and tell me what you think?

I am making an icon pack for the interior of the different software.

Here’s the link to see my proposal :


https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zaocgHeB30J5J-IGLnXAEPdeGKc075Iz?usp=sharing

Thank you.

Regards,
Manjiro5
Corentin VERBREGHE

Possible user confusion. Icons look very like LO with gulls added.

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Re: Buildbot config - svn or git?

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Am 15.06.23 um 19:07 schrieb Marcus:

Am 15.06.23 um 10:36 schrieb Pedro Lino:
On 06/15/2023 9:30 AM WEST Matthias Seidel 
 wrote:

Thanks to Peter our Linux buildbots are functional again.


Thanks Peter!

But the buildbot configuration is still on SVN.

I would prefer it on Git. Opinions?


+1
Yes, that would make sense.


yes, let's move it to Git,


l have updated 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Whishlist with the 
tasks and the steps I see.


Any steps I missed?



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Re: blog migration

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Am 11.06.23 um 17:56 schrieb Marcus:

Am 11.06.23 um 15:59 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Thanks!

Is anyone comfortable with an URL like:

https://openoffice.apache.org/blogpage(.html)

Or should we rename it to "blog" or "blogs"?

In the end this is the URL we will advertise and now would be the best
moment to make a decision.


even when it is indeed a single page where all blog articles are, I 
prefer to use just "blog". It's shorter and well known as common name 
for such content.


I have not an opinion. The change is prepared on branch preview/renameblog.

We would need another ticket for infra to change the redirects


All the best

Peter



Marcus




Am 11.06.23 um 07:16 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

FYI after some discussion is slack a ticket for Infra was opened.

the forwarding is now fixed, you may need to empty your cache.

Am 10.06.23 um 21:02 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Sorry:

https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/

Am 10.06.23 um 20:58 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi,

Am 10.06.23 um 20:38 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

I have put this in the ticket.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-24222

Am 10.06.23 um 20:17 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:

Dear All,

the "Blog" link at the top-right corner of the homepage links to:
https://blogs.apache.org/ooo/
that is not valid.

It should have been:

https://blogs.apache.org/OOo

I fixed that now, but the redirection is a bit wrong (see ticket).

When it works we can of course use the "new" URL directly on our 
page.


Regards,

 Matthias


I think that the correct URL should rather be:
https://openoffice.apache.org/blogpage.html

I made a "git grep blogs.apache.org" and this URL appears in a 
_lot_

of files; for this reason I refrained to try fixing this myself.

I also suggest to make:
https://openoffice.apache.org/blog/
redirect to the above, correct URL
(or maybe, make _this_ the correct URL, as it looks easier to 
type).


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Re: blog migration

[Peter Kovacs]

FYI after some discussion is slack a ticket for Infra was opened.

the forwarding is now fixed, you may need to empty your cache.

Am 10.06.23 um 21:02 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Sorry:

https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/

Am 10.06.23 um 20:58 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi,

Am 10.06.23 um 20:38 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

I have put this in the ticket.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-24222

Am 10.06.23 um 20:17 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:

Dear All,

the "Blog" link at the top-right corner of the homepage links to:
https://blogs.apache.org/ooo/
that is not valid.

It should have been:

https://blogs.apache.org/OOo

I fixed that now, but the redirection is a bit wrong (see ticket).

When it works we can of course use the "new" URL directly on our page.

Regards,

    Matthias


I think that the correct URL should rather be:
https://openoffice.apache.org/blogpage.html

I made a "git grep blogs.apache.org" and this URL appears in a _lot_
of files; for this reason I refrained to try fixing this myself.

I also suggest to make:
https://openoffice.apache.org/blog/
redirect to the above, correct URL
(or maybe, make _this_ the correct URL, as it looks easier to type).

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Re: blog migration

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I have put this in the ticket. 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-24222


Am 10.06.23 um 20:17 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:

Dear All,

the "Blog" link at the top-right corner of the homepage links to:
https://blogs.apache.org/ooo/
that is not valid.

I think that the correct URL should rather be:
https://openoffice.apache.org/blogpage.html

I made a "git grep blogs.apache.org" and this URL appears in a _lot_
of files; for this reason I refrained to try fixing this myself.

I also suggest to make:
https://openoffice.apache.org/blog/
redirect to the above, correct URL
(or maybe, make _this_ the correct URL, as it looks easier to type).

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Re: [discussion] looking for Contributor "campaign"

[Peter Kovacs]

I found out today I forgot a topic. In order to move forward i created a 
"whishlist" of things on my mind.


currently no prioritization included. And if you feel a topic is missing 
add it. so we get a better picture. Also some points are generic, to be 
refined or improved.


so feel free to ask or enhance the list.


Am 29.05.23 um 10:35 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

memo to myself: update internal python to version 3.x

Am 29.05.23 um 09:48 schrieb Peter Kovacs:


Am 28.05.23 um 21:03 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:

Hello Matthias, All,

On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 01:34:56PM +0200, Matthias Seidel wrote:


Hi All,

Apart from the major task to write a Readme... ;-)

  - We had some files encoded with CRLF, maybe there are still others?
  - We have a lot of mixed indentation (spaces+tabs) that produce
warnings with newer compilers.
  - We still have a big amount of German comments that need to be 
translated.

  - We have a vim modeline in some files, shouldn't we use them more?
  - ...

I really don't know where to stop here!

Before we talk about a timeline, let's do the basic tasks... A
"cleaner" source code may also attract volunteers/developers.

What do others think?

I like the Idea to utilize GitHub for this.

IMHO, the highest hurdle for new contributors, today, is our build
system, especially under Windows.


true!

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Re: blog migration

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Am 09.06.23 um 10:59 schrieb DurgaPrasad Potnuru:

Awesome, will get started on it and will confirm


l have fixed the picture issue by now. Can you rewrite the guide at:

https://openoffice.apache.org/website-local.html

This would be awesome!



On Fri, 9 Jun, 2023, 2:08 am Peter Kovacs,  wrote:


cool! DurgaPrasad Potnuru,


All you need is a github account. And a local git installation. I use
Codium (a variation of Visual Code) as an editor. but you can use others.


fork the Project https://github.com/apache/openoffice-project - on the
page top right you see a button "Fork"

then clone the project to your machine. git clone

switch to the branch missing-pictures and continue editing.


lf you want to check the results offline you can follow guide
https://infra.apache.org/asf-pelican-local.html. (the script will clone
the site ) But the setup does only work on mac and Linux.

Once done with your work, sync with your fork. On github create a merge
request back to apache missing-pictures branch. A button should apear
automaticly, just check for the right branch.



All the best

Peter



Am 08.06.23 um 15:25 schrieb DurgaPrasad Potnuru:

Hello Peter
Happy to pitch in

Which aspect can we help with.
What are the access needed for the same.



On Thu, 8 Jun, 2023, 2:28 pm Peter Kovacs,  wrote:


Okay, that was not smart. For some reason I missed that a lot of
pictures referenced to the blog.

I have started to fix this on branch
https://openoffice-missing-pictures.staged.apache.org/blogpage.html

you can preview the results here:
https://openoffice-missing-pictures.staged.apache.org/


and I could use some help.

I save the pictures from:


https://web.archive.org/web/20170119032007/https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/

into content/images/blog

rename to blogname_picturetitle.filetype

change the link to "../images/blog/blogname_picturetitle.filetype"


2 articles have been fixed. 50 mill downloads and 1 year developer

If someone wants to help, Please answer here.

All the best

Peter

Am 08.06.23 um 09:03 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Ahh yes, I messed up a little. let me check.

Am 07.06.23 um 20:32 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi all,

Sorry for the confusion, I looked into /blog, not on /blogpage.html.

But I think the page does not build...

Regards,

  Matthias

Am 07.06.23 um 20:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi All,

Am 06.06.23 um 19:24 schrieb Marcus:

Am 02.06.23 um 23:05 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

The roller migration can be reviewed at [1].

Please, have a look through the page if something broke that I
missed. Or Other things we need to look at.

 All pages where moved into a page sub folder. In folder blogs

all

our blog post can be found.

that's great news! Thanks a lot for the migration. :-)


Open Points fron my side:

# FAQ - Blog needs to be rewritten

I don't see a FAQ that needs to be rewritten. However, it's just the
same step as you would edit another webpage.

Ooops, I just edited a few external links and now the blog looks a

bit

"different"

I edited in /blog, should I edit in /blog_entry ?

Regards,

  Matthias


# figure out how we can automate the Announcement part in General
about

Yes, could be done. But it's no big deal to do it manually. It's

just

- copy & paste the old text+links
- exchange a few data
- and that's it ;-)


# fixate the banner and menu on top without overlap effect

I don't see a different behavior when I open / close the Project

menu

- compared with the other menu items.

Another point:
The separator line and the "Continue Reading" link are differently
positioned for every blog item. It depends how long the blog text

is.

So, the text length could be fixed. Let's see.

Marcus




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Re: blog migration

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Am 09.06.23 um 12:52 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
If you have questions, please ask. That will help extending the 
documentation maybe.


you can checkout [1], too.


okay, forgot the link,

[1] https://openoffice.apache.org/website-local.html

but it is totaly outdated. So we need to write a new one. Perfect. :)




All the best

Peter


Am 09.06.23 um 10:59 schrieb DurgaPrasad Potnuru:

Awesome, will get started on it and will confirm

On Fri, 9 Jun, 2023, 2:08 am Peter Kovacs,  wrote:


cool! DurgaPrasad Potnuru,


All you need is a github account. And a local git installation. I use
Codium (a variation of Visual Code) as an editor. but you can use 
others.



fork the Project https://github.com/apache/openoffice-project - on the
page top right you see a button "Fork"

then clone the project to your machine. git clone

switch to the branch missing-pictures and continue editing.


lf you want to check the results offline you can follow guide
https://infra.apache.org/asf-pelican-local.html. (the script will clone
the site ) But the setup does only work on mac and Linux.

Once done with your work, sync with your fork. On github create a merge
request back to apache missing-pictures branch. A button should apear
automaticly, just check for the right branch.



All the best

Peter



Am 08.06.23 um 15:25 schrieb DurgaPrasad Potnuru:

Hello Peter
Happy to pitch in

Which aspect can we help with.
What are the access needed for the same.



On Thu, 8 Jun, 2023, 2:28 pm Peter Kovacs,  wrote:


Okay, that was not smart. For some reason I missed that a lot of
pictures referenced to the blog.

I have started to fix this on branch
https://openoffice-missing-pictures.staged.apache.org/blogpage.html

you can preview the results here:
https://openoffice-missing-pictures.staged.apache.org/


and I could use some help.

I save the pictures from:

https://web.archive.org/web/20170119032007/https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ 


into content/images/blog

rename to blogname_picturetitle.filetype

change the link to "../images/blog/blogname_picturetitle.filetype"


2 articles have been fixed. 50 mill downloads and 1 year developer

If someone wants to help, Please answer here.

All the best

Peter

Am 08.06.23 um 09:03 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Ahh yes, I messed up a little. let me check.

Am 07.06.23 um 20:32 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi all,

Sorry for the confusion, I looked into /blog, not on 
/blogpage.html.


But I think the page does not build...

Regards,

  Matthias

Am 07.06.23 um 20:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi All,

Am 06.06.23 um 19:24 schrieb Marcus:

Am 02.06.23 um 23:05 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

The roller migration can be reviewed at [1].

Please, have a look through the page if something broke that I
missed. Or Other things we need to look at.

 All pages where moved into a page sub folder. In folder 
blogs

all

our blog post can be found.

that's great news! Thanks a lot for the migration. :-)


Open Points fron my side:

# FAQ - Blog needs to be rewritten
I don't see a FAQ that needs to be rewritten. However, it's 
just the

same step as you would edit another webpage.

Ooops, I just edited a few external links and now the blog looks a

bit

"different"

I edited in /blog, should I edit in /blog_entry ?

Regards,

  Matthias

# figure out how we can automate the Announcement part in 
General

about

Yes, could be done. But it's no big deal to do it manually. It's

just

- copy & paste the old text+links
- exchange a few data
- and that's it ;-)


# fixate the banner and menu on top without overlap effect

I don't see a different behavior when I open / close the Project

menu

- compared with the other menu items.

Another point:
The separator line and the "Continue Reading" link are 
differently

positioned for every blog item. It depends how long the blog text

is.

So, the text length could be fixed. Let's see.

Marcus




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If you have questions, please ask. That will help extending the 
documentation maybe.


you can checkout [1], too.


All the best

Peter


Am 09.06.23 um 10:59 schrieb DurgaPrasad Potnuru:

Awesome, will get started on it and will confirm

On Fri, 9 Jun, 2023, 2:08 am Peter Kovacs,  wrote:


cool! DurgaPrasad Potnuru,


All you need is a github account. And a local git installation. I use
Codium (a variation of Visual Code) as an editor. but you can use others.


fork the Project https://github.com/apache/openoffice-project - on the
page top right you see a button "Fork"

then clone the project to your machine. git clone

switch to the branch missing-pictures and continue editing.


lf you want to check the results offline you can follow guide
https://infra.apache.org/asf-pelican-local.html. (the script will clone
the site ) But the setup does only work on mac and Linux.

Once done with your work, sync with your fork. On github create a merge
request back to apache missing-pictures branch. A button should apear
automaticly, just check for the right branch.



All the best

Peter



Am 08.06.23 um 15:25 schrieb DurgaPrasad Potnuru:

Hello Peter
Happy to pitch in

Which aspect can we help with.
What are the access needed for the same.



On Thu, 8 Jun, 2023, 2:28 pm Peter Kovacs,  wrote:


Okay, that was not smart. For some reason I missed that a lot of
pictures referenced to the blog.

I have started to fix this on branch
https://openoffice-missing-pictures.staged.apache.org/blogpage.html

you can preview the results here:
https://openoffice-missing-pictures.staged.apache.org/


and I could use some help.

I save the pictures from:


https://web.archive.org/web/20170119032007/https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/

into content/images/blog

rename to blogname_picturetitle.filetype

change the link to "../images/blog/blogname_picturetitle.filetype"


2 articles have been fixed. 50 mill downloads and 1 year developer

If someone wants to help, Please answer here.

All the best

Peter

Am 08.06.23 um 09:03 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Ahh yes, I messed up a little. let me check.

Am 07.06.23 um 20:32 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi all,

Sorry for the confusion, I looked into /blog, not on /blogpage.html.

But I think the page does not build...

Regards,

  Matthias

Am 07.06.23 um 20:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi All,

Am 06.06.23 um 19:24 schrieb Marcus:

Am 02.06.23 um 23:05 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

The roller migration can be reviewed at [1].

Please, have a look through the page if something broke that I
missed. Or Other things we need to look at.

 All pages where moved into a page sub folder. In folder blogs

all

our blog post can be found.

that's great news! Thanks a lot for the migration. :-)


Open Points fron my side:

# FAQ - Blog needs to be rewritten

I don't see a FAQ that needs to be rewritten. However, it's just the
same step as you would edit another webpage.

Ooops, I just edited a few external links and now the blog looks a

bit

"different"

I edited in /blog, should I edit in /blog_entry ?

Regards,

  Matthias


# figure out how we can automate the Announcement part in General
about

Yes, could be done. But it's no big deal to do it manually. It's

just

- copy & paste the old text+links
- exchange a few data
- and that's it ;-)


# fixate the banner and menu on top without overlap effect

I don't see a different behavior when I open / close the Project

menu

- compared with the other menu items.

Another point:
The separator line and the "Continue Reading" link are differently
positioned for every blog item. It depends how long the blog text

is.

So, the text length could be fixed. Let's see.

Marcus




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Re: blog migration

[Peter Kovacs]

cool! DurgaPrasad Potnuru,


All you need is a github account. And a local git installation. I use 
Codium (a variation of Visual Code) as an editor. but you can use others.



fork the Project https://github.com/apache/openoffice-project - on the 
page top right you see a button "Fork"


then clone the project to your machine.     git clone

switch to the branch missing-pictures and continue editing.


lf you want to check the results offline you can follow guide 
https://infra.apache.org/asf-pelican-local.html. (the script will clone 
the site ) But the setup does only work on mac and Linux.


Once done with your work, sync with your fork. On github create a merge 
request back to apache missing-pictures branch. A button should apear   
automaticly, just check for the right branch.




All the best

Peter



Am 08.06.23 um 15:25 schrieb DurgaPrasad Potnuru:

Hello Peter
Happy to pitch in

Which aspect can we help with.
What are the access needed for the same.



On Thu, 8 Jun, 2023, 2:28 pm Peter Kovacs,  wrote:


Okay, that was not smart. For some reason I missed that a lot of
pictures referenced to the blog.

I have started to fix this on branch
https://openoffice-missing-pictures.staged.apache.org/blogpage.html

you can preview the results here:
https://openoffice-missing-pictures.staged.apache.org/


and I could use some help.

I save the pictures from:
https://web.archive.org/web/20170119032007/https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/
into content/images/blog

rename to blogname_picturetitle.filetype

change the link to "../images/blog/blogname_picturetitle.filetype"


2 articles have been fixed. 50 mill downloads and 1 year developer

If someone wants to help, Please answer here.

All the best

Peter

Am 08.06.23 um 09:03 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Ahh yes, I messed up a little. let me check.

Am 07.06.23 um 20:32 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi all,

Sorry for the confusion, I looked into /blog, not on /blogpage.html.

But I think the page does not build...

Regards,

 Matthias

Am 07.06.23 um 20:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi All,

Am 06.06.23 um 19:24 schrieb Marcus:

Am 02.06.23 um 23:05 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

The roller migration can be reviewed at [1].

Please, have a look through the page if something broke that I
missed. Or Other things we need to look at.

All pages where moved into a page sub folder. In folder blogs all
our blog post can be found.

that's great news! Thanks a lot for the migration. :-)


Open Points fron my side:

# FAQ - Blog needs to be rewritten

I don't see a FAQ that needs to be rewritten. However, it's just the
same step as you would edit another webpage.

Ooops, I just edited a few external links and now the blog looks a bit
"different"

I edited in /blog, should I edit in /blog_entry ?

Regards,

 Matthias


# figure out how we can automate the Announcement part in General
about

Yes, could be done. But it's no big deal to do it manually. It's just
- copy & paste the old text+links
- exchange a few data
- and that's it ;-)


# fixate the banner and menu on top without overlap effect

I don't see a different behavior when I open / close the Project menu
- compared with the other menu items.

Another point:
The separator line and the "Continue Reading" link are differently
positioned for every blog item. It depends how long the blog text is.
So, the text length could be fixed. Let's see.

Marcus


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Re: blog migration

[Peter Kovacs]

Short update: There are 24 articles left to fix. I have fixed another 8.

I will continue tomorrow.


Am 08.06.23 um 10:58 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
Okay, that was not smart. For some reason I missed that a lot of 
pictures referenced to the blog.


I have started to fix this on branch 
https://openoffice-missing-pictures.staged.apache.org/blogpage.html


you can preview the results here: 
https://openoffice-missing-pictures.staged.apache.org/



and I could use some help.

I save the pictures from: 
https://web.archive.org/web/20170119032007/https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ 
into content/images/blog


rename to blogname_picturetitle.filetype

change the link to "../images/blog/blogname_picturetitle.filetype"


2 articles have been fixed. 50 mill downloads and 1 year developer

If someone wants to help, Please answer here.

All the best

Peter

Am 08.06.23 um 09:03 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Ahh yes, I messed up a little. let me check.

Am 07.06.23 um 20:32 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi all,

Sorry for the confusion, I looked into /blog, not on /blogpage.html.

But I think the page does not build...

Regards,

    Matthias

Am 07.06.23 um 20:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi All,

Am 06.06.23 um 19:24 schrieb Marcus:

Am 02.06.23 um 23:05 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

The roller migration can be reviewed at [1].

Please, have a look through the page if something broke that I
missed. Or Other things we need to look at.

   All pages where moved into a page sub folder. In folder blogs all
our blog post can be found.

that's great news! Thanks a lot for the migration. :-)


Open Points fron my side:

# FAQ - Blog needs to be rewritten

I don't see a FAQ that needs to be rewritten. However, it's just the
same step as you would edit another webpage.

Ooops, I just edited a few external links and now the blog looks a bit
"different"

I edited in /blog, should I edit in /blog_entry ?

Regards,

    Matthias

# figure out how we can automate the Announcement part in General 
about

Yes, could be done. But it's no big deal to do it manually. It's just
- copy & paste the old text+links
- exchange a few data
- and that's it ;-)


# fixate the banner and menu on top without overlap effect

I don't see a different behavior when I open / close the Project menu
- compared with the other menu items.

Another point:
The separator line and the "Continue Reading" link are differently
positioned for every blog item. It depends how long the blog text is.
So, the text length could be fixed. Let's see.

Marcus


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Re: blog migration

[Peter Kovacs]

Okay, that was not smart. For some reason I missed that a lot of 
pictures referenced to the blog.


I have started to fix this on branch 
https://openoffice-missing-pictures.staged.apache.org/blogpage.html


you can preview the results here: 
https://openoffice-missing-pictures.staged.apache.org/



and I could use some help.

I save the pictures from: 
https://web.archive.org/web/20170119032007/https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ 
into content/images/blog


rename to blogname_picturetitle.filetype

change the link to "../images/blog/blogname_picturetitle.filetype"


2 articles have been fixed. 50 mill downloads and 1 year developer

If someone wants to help, Please answer here.

All the best

Peter

Am 08.06.23 um 09:03 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Ahh yes, I messed up a little. let me check.

Am 07.06.23 um 20:32 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi all,

Sorry for the confusion, I looked into /blog, not on /blogpage.html.

But I think the page does not build...

Regards,

    Matthias

Am 07.06.23 um 20:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi All,

Am 06.06.23 um 19:24 schrieb Marcus:

Am 02.06.23 um 23:05 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

The roller migration can be reviewed at [1].

Please, have a look through the page if something broke that I
missed. Or Other things we need to look at.

   All pages where moved into a page sub folder. In folder blogs all
our blog post can be found.

that's great news! Thanks a lot for the migration. :-)


Open Points fron my side:

# FAQ - Blog needs to be rewritten

I don't see a FAQ that needs to be rewritten. However, it's just the
same step as you would edit another webpage.

Ooops, I just edited a few external links and now the blog looks a bit
"different"

I edited in /blog, should I edit in /blog_entry ?

Regards,

    Matthias

# figure out how we can automate the Announcement part in General 
about

Yes, could be done. But it's no big deal to do it manually. It's just
- copy & paste the old text+links
- exchange a few data
- and that's it ;-)


# fixate the banner and menu on top without overlap effect

I don't see a different behavior when I open / close the Project menu
- compared with the other menu items.

Another point:
The separator line and the "Continue Reading" link are differently
positioned for every blog item. It depends how long the blog text is.
So, the text length could be fixed. Let's see.

Marcus


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Re: blog migration

[Peter Kovacs]

Ahh yes, I messed up a little. let me check.

Am 07.06.23 um 20:32 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi all,

Sorry for the confusion, I looked into /blog, not on /blogpage.html.

But I think the page does not build...

Regards,

    Matthias

Am 07.06.23 um 20:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi All,

Am 06.06.23 um 19:24 schrieb Marcus:

Am 02.06.23 um 23:05 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

The roller migration can be reviewed at [1].

Please, have a look through the page if something broke that I
missed. Or Other things we need to look at.

   All pages where moved into a page sub folder. In folder blogs all
our blog post can be found.

that's great news! Thanks a lot for the migration. :-)


Open Points fron my side:

# FAQ - Blog needs to be rewritten

I don't see a FAQ that needs to be rewritten. However, it's just the
same step as you would edit another webpage.

Ooops, I just edited a few external links and now the blog looks a bit
"different"

I edited in /blog, should I edit in /blog_entry ?

Regards,

    Matthias


# figure out how we can automate the Announcement part in General about

Yes, could be done. But it's no big deal to do it manually. It's just
- copy & paste the old text+links
- exchange a few data
- and that's it ;-)


# fixate the banner and menu on top without overlap effect

I don't see a different behavior when I open / close the Project menu
- compared with the other menu items.

Another point:
The separator line and the "Continue Reading" link are differently
positioned for every blog item. It depends how long the blog text is.
So, the text length could be fixed. Let's see.

Marcus


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Re: blog migration

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 07.06.23 um 20:32 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi all,

Sorry for the confusion, I looked into /blog, not on /blogpage.html.

The blog is a dynamical page. What do you want to add?


But I think the page does not build...

Regards,

    Matthias

Am 07.06.23 um 20:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi All,

Am 06.06.23 um 19:24 schrieb Marcus:

Am 02.06.23 um 23:05 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

The roller migration can be reviewed at [1].

Please, have a look through the page if something broke that I
missed. Or Other things we need to look at.

   All pages where moved into a page sub folder. In folder blogs all
our blog post can be found.

that's great news! Thanks a lot for the migration. :-)


Open Points fron my side:

# FAQ - Blog needs to be rewritten

I don't see a FAQ that needs to be rewritten. However, it's just the
same step as you would edit another webpage.

Ooops, I just edited a few external links and now the blog looks a bit
"different"

I edited in /blog, should I edit in /blog_entry ?

Regards,

    Matthias


# figure out how we can automate the Announcement part in General about

Yes, could be done. But it's no big deal to do it manually. It's just
- copy & paste the old text+links
- exchange a few data
- and that's it ;-)


# fixate the banner and menu on top without overlap effect

I don't see a different behavior when I open / close the Project menu
- compared with the other menu items.

Another point:
The separator line and the "Continue Reading" link are differently
positioned for every blog item. It depends how long the blog text is.
So, the text length could be fixed. Let's see.

Marcus


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Re: blog migration

[Peter Kovacs]

I have merged the migration.

please, notify if we missed something.

Am 04.06.23 um 10:33 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

I will merge tonight.

Am 03.06.23 um 06:39 schrieb Dave Fisher:


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 2, 2023, at 9:10 PM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:



Am 03.06.23 um 01:42 schrieb Dave Fisher:
Excellent work! Thank you!

Drew and Chris helped a lot. They deserve our thanks.

Btw, I missed Daniel Geino. I am sorry.

As always the ASF Infrastructure is first class.

+1 :)



Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 2, 2023, at 2:10 PM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:

Hi all,


The roller migration can be reviewed at [1].

Please, have a look through the page if something broke that I 
missed. Or Other things we need to look at.


  All pages where moved into a page sub folder. In folder blogs 
all our blog post can be found.



Open Points fron my side:

# FAQ - Blog needs to be rewritten

https://openoffice-blog-migration.staged.apache.org/pmc-faqs.html

Correct? This can follow on separately.
yes. I made the list so it becomes easier to construct a project 
backlog or similar (see other thread looking for Contributor 
"campaign"​).

I agree there are many updates that would help the project.

Maybe start creating GitHub issues in OpenOffice-project?


I would prefer Bugzilla, despite it kind of sucks. My experiment with 
Jira lead to more confusion then it actual helped.


And I think it is better to look at Bugzilla. we should add a Product 
for OpenOffice-project.


All the best

Peter



Best,
Dave
# figure out how we can automate the Announcement part in General 
about


# fixate the banner and menu on top without overlap effect

I didn’t see any problems on my iPhone browser.

+1 to publish!

Best,
Dave

All the best

Peter


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Re: Fwd: Install AOO via winget on Windows 10/11

[Peter Kovacs]

Maybe this would be good in a installation guide?

Am 04.06.23 um 10:58 schrieb Matthias Seidel:


Re-send



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Betreff:Install AOO via winget on Windows 10/11
Datum:  Sat, 3 Jun 2023 20:32:10 +0200
Von:Matthias Seidel 
An: dev@openoffice.apache.org 



Hi,

FYI, I recently learned about using "winget".

This is Microsofts commandline package manager for Windows 10/11.

While the OpenOffice package information is still showing 4.1.13 [1] one
can always install the latest version from msstore:

winget install XP89J5462CMGJD

If you want to install AOO in a different language simply add the
locale, e.g.:

winget install XP89J5462CMGJD --locale en-US

BTW: We have 38 of our 41 locales available in msstore (missing are:
ast, ca-XV, ca-XR).

For detailed info about AOO use:

winget show XP89J5462CMGJD

Regards,

   Matthias

[1]
https://github.com/microsoft/winget-pkgs/tree/master/manifests/a/Apache/OpenOffice

Re: blog migration

[Peter Kovacs]

I will merge tonight.

Am 03.06.23 um 06:39 schrieb Dave Fisher:


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 2, 2023, at 9:10 PM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:



Am 03.06.23 um 01:42 schrieb Dave Fisher:
Excellent work! Thank you!

Drew and Chris helped a lot. They deserve our thanks.

As always the ASF Infrastructure is first class.

+1 :)



Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 2, 2023, at 2:10 PM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:

Hi all,


The roller migration can be reviewed at [1].

Please, have a look through the page if something broke that I missed. Or Other 
things we need to look at.

  All pages where moved into a page sub folder. In folder blogs all our blog 
post can be found.


Open Points fron my side:

# FAQ - Blog needs to be rewritten

https://openoffice-blog-migration.staged.apache.org/pmc-faqs.html

Correct? This can follow on separately.

yes. I made the list so it becomes easier to construct a project backlog or similar (see 
other thread looking for Contributor "campaign"​).

I agree there are many updates that would help the project.

Maybe start creating GitHub issues in OpenOffice-project?


I would prefer Bugzilla, despite it kind of sucks. My experiment with 
Jira lead to more confusion then it actual helped.


And I think it is better to look at Bugzilla. we should add a Product 
for OpenOffice-project.


All the best

Peter



Best,
Dave

# figure out how we can automate the Announcement part in General about

# fixate the banner and menu on top without overlap effect

I didn’t see any problems on my iPhone browser.

+1 to publish!

Best,
Dave

All the best

Peter


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Re: blog migration

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 03.06.23 um 01:42 schrieb Dave Fisher:

Excellent work! Thank you!

Drew and Chris helped a lot. They deserve our thanks.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 2, 2023, at 2:10 PM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:

Hi all,


The roller migration can be reviewed at [1].

Please, have a look through the page if something broke that I missed. Or Other 
things we need to look at.

  All pages where moved into a page sub folder. In folder blogs all our blog 
post can be found.


Open Points fron my side:

# FAQ - Blog needs to be rewritten

https://openoffice-blog-migration.staged.apache.org/pmc-faqs.html

Correct? This can follow on separately.


yes. I made the list so it becomes easier to construct a project backlog 
or similar (see other thread looking for Contributor "campaign"​).



# figure out how we can automate the Announcement part in General about

# fixate the banner and menu on top without overlap effect

I didn’t see any problems on my iPhone browser.

+1 to publish!

Best,
Dave


All the best

Peter


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blog migration

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi all,


The roller migration can be reviewed at [1].

Please, have a look through the page if something broke that I missed. 
Or Other things we need to look at.


 All pages where moved into a page sub folder. In folder blogs all our 
blog post can be found.



Open Points fron my side:

# FAQ - Blog needs to be rewritten

# figure out how we can automate the Announcement part in General about

# fixate the banner and menu on top without overlap effect


All the best

Peter


[1]https://openoffice-blog-migration.staged.apache.org/index.html


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Re: [discussion] looking for Contributor "campaign"

[Peter Kovacs]

memo to myself: update internal python to version 3.x

Am 29.05.23 um 09:48 schrieb Peter Kovacs:


Am 28.05.23 um 21:03 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:

Hello Matthias, All,

On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 01:34:56PM +0200, Matthias Seidel wrote:


Hi All,

Apart from the major task to write a Readme... ;-)

  - We had some files encoded with CRLF, maybe there are still others?
  - We have a lot of mixed indentation (spaces+tabs) that produce
warnings with newer compilers.
  - We still have a big amount of German comments that need to be 
translated.

  - We have a vim modeline in some files, shouldn't we use them more?
  - ...

I really don't know where to stop here!

Before we talk about a timeline, let's do the basic tasks... A
"cleaner" source code may also attract volunteers/developers.

What do others think?

I like the Idea to utilize GitHub for this.

IMHO, the highest hurdle for new contributors, today, is our build
system, especially under Windows.


true!

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Re: [discussion] looking for Contributor "campaign"

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Am 28.05.23 um 21:03 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:

Hello Matthias, All,

On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 01:34:56PM +0200, Matthias Seidel wrote:


Hi All,

Apart from the major task to write a Readme... ;-)

  - We had some files encoded with CRLF, maybe there are still others?
  - We have a lot of mixed indentation (spaces+tabs) that produce
warnings with newer compilers.
  - We still have a big amount of German comments that need to be translated.
  - We have a vim modeline in some files, shouldn't we use them more?
  - ...

I really don't know where to stop here!

Before we talk about a timeline, let's do the basic tasks...  A
"cleaner" source code may also attract volunteers/developers.

What do others think?

I like the Idea to utilize GitHub for this.

IMHO, the highest hurdle for new contributors, today, is our build
system, especially under Windows.


true!

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Re: Executable flag

[Peter Kovacs]

Agreed does not feel right.

Am 25.05.23 um 16:08 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi all,

By accident I found two cxx files that had the executable flag set. I
think that does not make sense.
But there were lot more and I removed their flags now with 2 commits.

Some are still left, do the files in /extras/source/gallery need to be
executable?

Our source really needs more maintenance...

Regards,

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Re: [discussion] looking for Contributor "campaign"

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi All,

Am 23.05.23 um 23:43 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Arrigo,

Am 23.05.23 um 22:27 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:

Hello Matthias, All,

On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 05:01:36PM +0200, Matthias Seidel wrote:


Hi all,

Am 20.05.23 um 12:17 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Am 20.05.23 um 10:10 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:

Hello All,

On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 10:49:53PM +0200, Matthias Seidel wrote:


Hi Peter,

[...]

After all, we are here to maintain and develop OpenOffice...

Isn't the "Help Wanted" page already a good list?
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Help+Wanted

It is not in the form of a roadmap, but it already contains a lot of
content, well structured.

I did not have this page on my mind. I have various points not noted,
and I would not rate the difficulties of those.

The difficulty rating is a way to help newcomers understand what kind
of task they should start with.

Tasks whose difficulty is hardly estimated could go into an "Undecided
difficulty" list... ;-)


For example Damjan has written a patch, for getting rid of expat. but
we need to implement a small part. However

the patch is on the list but not as PR or in code.

This sounds ``very challenging'' to me ;-)


Damjan wrote he did the hard part. So why do you estimate very challenging?

I assume because it is unclear what needs to be exactly done. At least 
this is my issue most of the time.


If we could note what is the topic to work on, and how it needs to be 
resolved it becomes much easier, even if the plan has flaws.


Also i keep loosing track what we need to finish. Or what issues can be 
combined.


[...]

...and just because we are discussing README.md I would appreciate if
someone added it to the AOO41X and AOO42X branches! They are worth at
least a minimal description...

also +1

I added a short description at least for AOO41X now.

Thank you!

While re-reading my own paragraph above, I think it sounded
polemical. This was not my intention, I apologize. My intention was to
ask for something I did not think I could do very well.

No problem!

In fact I always wanted to add a Readme and never really did it.

But I have no idea for AOO42X, this is our "AOO Forever" branch. ;-)

Maybe someone else has an idea?

i hope i find time soon :(


Regards,

    Matthias


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Re: [discussion] looking for Contributor "campaign"

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 20.05.23 um 10:10 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:

Hello All,

On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 10:49:53PM +0200, Matthias Seidel wrote:


Hi Peter,

[...]


After all, we are here to maintain and develop OpenOffice...

Isn't the "Help Wanted" page already a good list?
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Help+Wanted

It is not in the form of a roadmap, but it already contains a lot of
content, well structured.


I did not have this page on my mind. I have various points not noted, 
and I would not rate the difficulties of those.


For example Damjan has written a patch, for getting rid of expat. but we 
need to implement a small part. However


the patch is on the list but not as PR or in code.




What do you think?

A "Contributing" paragraph in README.md with a link to the above page
could already be a step forward.

this is a good idea.


Then, we could focus on making that page better, more up to date, in
tabular form etc.

...and just because we are discussing README.md I would appreciate if
someone added it to the AOO41X and AOO42X branches! They are worth at
least a minimal description...

also +1


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Re: [www] Website Development

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello Rizwan,

Thank you for taking interest in the OpenOffice Project.

We are not really organized in an industrial way. We are volunteers 
working on this project for the public welfare.


However we have always need for volunteers. One main difference is that 
we do not use hierarchical structures unlike common in industry.


We move by consent and meritocracy principles.


You know best how your skills are used. It is up to you how you engage.

 I see following topics in web sphere, without any priority applied:

 * robot.txt for mediawiki, forum (maybe better title is outtakes
   mediawiki & forum)
 * migration pootle
 * update mediawiki
 * migration blog to pelican
 * update opengrok
 * migration to container based services (actually I see that as part
   of above points)
 * we need to do something with the extension page
 * forum maintenance

anyone has more points web related?


All the best

Peter

Am 13.05.23 um 08:46 schrieb rizwan riaz:

Hey Everyone!

I wanted to take a moment to express my enthusiasm for joining the
OpenOffice developers community and contributing to shaping the OpenOffice
website. As an undergraduate university student expected to graduate next
year, I am eager to gain real-world experience that can complement my
academic knowledge and help me grow in the industry.

I bring a range of skills to the table that I believe could be valuable for
the OpenOffice project. I am proficient in *HTML5, CSS3, TailwindCSS,
JavaScript, Python, and C++*. Additionally, I have hands-on experience
building websites using *Django, Django Rest, and ReactJS*. I have taken
the initiative to create various projects and have showcased them on my
GitHub profile:https://github.com/iamrizwan077.

Joining the OpenOffice developers community would provide me with an
incredible opportunity to contribute to an open-source project and
collaborate with talented individuals who share a passion for software
development. I am excited to contribute my skills and knowledge to enhance
the OpenOffice website and make it even more user-friendly and functional.

I am confident that working with the OpenOffice developers community will
not only help me gain invaluable industry experience but also provide me
with the chance to learn from experienced developers and improve my
abilities in a collaborative environment.

Thank you for considering my application. I look forward to the possibility
of joining the OpenOffice developers community and making a meaningful
contribution to the project.

Best regards,

Rizwan

Re: gtest build error

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 30.04.23 um 13:40 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

Am 30.04.23 um 12:19 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hi All,

As suspekted adding GTEST_ in front fixes my setup.

What does that mean?

Do we need to change something in our code or is it just a configuration
issue?


It depends...

If Googletest is build with the option

  -DGTEST_DONT_DEFINE_FOO=1

our build will fail, because TEST Macro will change name to GTEST_TEST, in 
order to avoid overlap with other testsuites.
If build without the option our build works.

I guess that distributors likely will activate this option. In case we want to 
integrate we might run into issues, depending on distributor.



Regards,

    Matthias


All the best


Am 29.04.23 um 09:26 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hi all.

Build fails with:

main/sal/qa/rtl/crc32/rtl_crc32.cxx:72:1:error: expected constructor,
destructor, or type conversion before '(' token

   72 | TEST_F(test, rtl_crc32_002_1)

I have installed gtest using official ubuntu package

the readme says:

### Avoiding Macro Name Clashes

In C++, macros don't obey namespaces. Therefore two libraries that
both define a
macro of the same name will clash if you `#include` both definitions.
In case a
GoogleTest macro clashes with another library, you can force
GoogleTest to
rename its macro to avoid the conflict.

Specifically, if both GoogleTest and some other code define macro
FOO, you can
add

    -DGTEST_DONT_DEFINE_FOO=1

to the compiler flags to tell GoogleTest to change the macro's name
from `FOO`
to `GTEST_FOO`. Currently `FOO` can be `FAIL`, `SUCCEED`, or `TEST`. For
example, with `-DGTEST_DONT_DEFINE_TEST=1`, you'll need to write

    GTEST_TEST(SomeTest, DoesThis) { ... }

instead of

    TEST(SomeTest, DoesThis) { ... }

in order to define a test.

--

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should we make a change if so?


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Re: gtest build error

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi All,

As suspekted adding GTEST_ in front fixes my setup.

All the best


Am 29.04.23 um 09:26 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hi all.

Build fails with:

main/sal/qa/rtl/crc32/rtl_crc32.cxx:72:1:error: expected constructor, 
destructor, or type conversion before '(' token


  72 | TEST_F(test, rtl_crc32_002_1)

I have installed gtest using official ubuntu package

the readme says:

### Avoiding Macro Name Clashes

In C++, macros don't obey namespaces. Therefore two libraries that 
both define a
macro of the same name will clash if you `#include` both definitions. 
In case a
GoogleTest macro clashes with another library, you can force 
GoogleTest to

rename its macro to avoid the conflict.

Specifically, if both GoogleTest and some other code define macro FOO, 
you can

add

   -DGTEST_DONT_DEFINE_FOO=1

to the compiler flags to tell GoogleTest to change the macro's name 
from `FOO`

to `GTEST_FOO`. Currently `FOO` can be `FAIL`, `SUCCEED`, or `TEST`. For
example, with `-DGTEST_DONT_DEFINE_TEST=1`, you'll need to write

   GTEST_TEST(SomeTest, DoesThis) { ... }

instead of

   TEST(SomeTest, DoesThis) { ... }

in order to define a test.

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gtest build error

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi all.

Build fails with:

main/sal/qa/rtl/crc32/rtl_crc32.cxx:72:1:error: expected constructor, 
destructor, or type conversion before '(' token


  72 | TEST_F(test, rtl_crc32_002_1)

I have installed gtest using official ubuntu package

the readme says:

### Avoiding Macro Name Clashes

In C++, macros don't obey namespaces. Therefore two libraries that both 
define a
macro of the same name will clash if you `#include` both definitions. In 
case a

GoogleTest macro clashes with another library, you can force GoogleTest to
rename its macro to avoid the conflict.

Specifically, if both GoogleTest and some other code define macro FOO, 
you can

add

   -DGTEST_DONT_DEFINE_FOO=1

to the compiler flags to tell GoogleTest to change the macro's name from 
`FOO`

to `GTEST_FOO`. Currently `FOO` can be `FAIL`, `SUCCEED`, or `TEST`. For
example, with `-DGTEST_DONT_DEFINE_TEST=1`, you'll need to write

   GTEST_TEST(SomeTest, DoesThis) { ... }

instead of

   TEST(SomeTest, DoesThis) { ... }

in order to define a test.

--

can this cause my issue?

should we make a change if so?

datedif (was: Contribution/recruitment!)

[Peter Kovacs]

I uploaded the current progress.


Am 31.03.23 um 08:48 schrieb Bidouille:

Hello Peter
Any news for this DATEDIFF PR?
:-)

- Mail original -

De: "Peter Kovacs" 
À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Envoyé: Dimanche 23 Octobre 2022 12:22:20
Objet: Re: Contribution/recruitment!


Am 22.10.22 um 11:57 schrieb Bidouille:

I don't know why
But Datediff exists in Basic

strange.

So link to a function in Calc should be possible :-)
Maybe the OP could have a look on this hack

I wrote an implementation based on the LO one. After I have done some
testing I will open a PR.


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De: "Matthias Seidel" 
À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Envoyé: Samedi 15 Octobre 2022 18:48:21
Objet: Re: Contribution/recruitment!

If this is an "easy hack" why is the issue open for 17 years?

:-D

Am 15.10.22 um 13:18 schrieb Bidouille:

You have many easy hacks...
A good start to you would be have DATEDIFF function in Calc:
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=49467
:-)


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De: "medo medo" 
À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Envoyé: Samedi 15 Octobre 2022 00:38:24
Objet: Re: Contribution/recruitment!

Hello,I am trying to contribute to OpenOffice but I am totally
lost,
and not sure where to get started.I am willing to code in
C++.Thanks,Ahmed.

  On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 10:51:03 PM GMT+2, Peter Kovacs
   wrote:
   
   
Welcome Ahmed,


We can use your interest in PHP and also C++. From my point of
view
you
decide where to dive into.

If you want to look at OpenOffice directly, I suggest you start
with
building OpenOffice on your favourite plattform.

We help you with that.

The second Option is to help with our add ons. We need to check
if
some
of our wikimedia modules run with the latest Wikimedia.

If so, that would be great.

As Dave said. If you need anything, just ask. :-)


I am looking forward of hearing of you.

All the best

Peter

Am 16.05.22 um 18:27 schrieb medo medo:

Hello,I am Ahmed Aboubakr from Cairo, Egypt.I am interested in
contributing to Openoffice project.
I am not sure where should I get started.Thanks,Ahmed.


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Re: Changes proposal for the future AOO 5.0.0

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 22.04.23 um 16:41 schrieb Corentin Verbrèghe:

Hello,
I think that making my proposal an extension of AOO is a bad idea, I rather
thought that it should be part of the software because the problem of an
extension is that it does not install automatically.


This is a question of distribution. Languages are an extension too. We 
offer preinstalled versions.


So why remove this ability from your suggestion?

How do we handle installations that are disconnected or have a slow 
connection?


And How can we Change Extensions that they are more accessible to users?


  Moreover, this could
improve the gallery to make it much more interesting and complete, with an
almost infinite choice of images, illustrations, icons and even audio files
available for everyone. The fact that it is not an extension will make AOO
more interesting and useful compared to before and other software such as
LibreOffice.

I agree the feature will improve the gallery.

Regards
Manjiro5

Le sam. 22 avr. 2023 à 12:52, Matthias Seidel 
a écrit :


Hi Peter, Xavier,

Am 22.04.23 um 09:03 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hi Xavier,

I like the idea! But I would like this to be an extension.

Yes, an extension would be the better way.

It could be released independent from any AOO version. Honestly, we are
struggling for years to get 4.2.0 out. :-(


And we need to think about how we enable users to use extensions and
fix some bugs around the issue.

There are issues for AOO41X on macOS, I think. Personally I cannot even
install a new dictionary...

Regards,

Matthias



all the best

peter

Am 21.04.23 um 10:24 schrieb Xavier Verbrèghe:

Hello, I wanted to share with you my idea that I just had for the next
major version of AOO (which will also have new icons ;-) ). I propose to
modify the OpenOffice Gallery in order to add a tab titled "Import from
Wikimedia Commons", this would make it possible to use images from
Wikimedia Commons while still being on AOO, so there will be no need to
download the image for it to be imported into the document. This could
improve the interest of AOO compared to other office suites such as LO.
What do you think ? I'm aware that it's not going to be super simple
but if
you're ok, I'll try to contact Wikimedia Commons developers. And for the
problem of copyvios, it would be possible to add a banner where it is
written to have to put the name of the author, the license (CC or
other),
and the source and where it is proposed to copy the sitography.

Regards.
Manjiro5


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[discussion] looking for Contributor "campaign"

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi all,

I came across

https://dev.to/opensauced/whos-looking-for-open-source-contributors-week-38-16e9

And it got me thinking. I would like to advertise for help. But so far 
our on boarding quota is really bad, since we relay on the volunteers 
long term motivation.


so i would like to call for help on specific tasks. These tasks are 
promoted in a contribute.md file. I would like to break down tasks in 
small steps so volunteer engagement is quickly achieved.


And i would like to build feature roadmaps. So we can promote them, and 
become more structured. Of course this approach is to be seen as an 
addition on how we engage today.



What do you think?

All the best

Peter


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Re: Changes proposal for the future AOO 5.0.0

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Xavier,

I like the idea! But I would like this to be an extension.

And we need to think about how we enable users to use extensions and fix 
some bugs around the issue.



all the best

peter

Am 21.04.23 um 10:24 schrieb Xavier Verbrèghe:

Hello, I wanted to share with you my idea that I just had for the next
major version of AOO (which will also have new icons ;-) ). I propose to
modify the OpenOffice Gallery in order to add a tab titled "Import from
Wikimedia Commons", this would make it possible to use images from
Wikimedia Commons while still being on AOO, so there will be no need to
download the image for it to be imported into the document. This could
improve the interest of AOO compared to other office suites such as LO.
What do you think ? I'm aware that it's not going to be super simple but if
you're ok, I'll try to contact Wikimedia Commons developers. And for the
problem of copyvios, it would be possible to add a banner where it is
written to have to put the name of the author, the license (CC or other),
and the source and where it is proposed to copy the sitography.

Regards.
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Re: scons-build branch

[Peter kovacs]

Hello Yury

You can build more or less every module on its own. If there is a dependency 
module then you need the inc header files and the module binary to link against.
At least this is my understanding on the build architecture.

I hope I have time soon to look into build utility again. Since the topic has 
more challenges.

All the best
Peter

Am 18. April 2023 06:49:03 MESZ schrieb Yury Tarasievich 
:
>On 16/04/2023 16:21, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
>> I just pushed some commits to the scons-build branch, in which I am
>> attempting to write _from scratch_ the SConscripts to build some
>> modules.
>...
>> The only module that _seems_ to build is xml2cmp, but only under Linux
>> so far.
>
>Is it because of modules dependencies, would you say, or because toolchain and 
>codebase are out of sync w/r to language features used and similar issues?
>
>Last time I looked at that branch, the transition of build descriptions to 
>scons hadn't been completed. Can you even build AOO modules one by one, aren't 
>they all inter-dependent?
>
>-Yury
>
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Re: A Message from the Board to PMC members

[Peter kovacs]

Hi Matthias,

What do you suggest?
I do not see in the mail calls for action in this regard. And the status quo is 
that we will not Push anyone out or define some sort of activity requirement.

All the best
Peter

Am 4. April 2023 17:13:02 MESZ schrieb Matthias Seidel 
:
>Hi All,
>
>time to start a discussion about our dormant PMC members?
>
>Regards,
>
>   Matthias
>
>Am 29.03.23 um 14:42 schrieb Rich Bowen:
>> Dear Apache Project Management Committee (PMC) members,
>>
>> The Board wants to take just a moment of your time to communicate a few
>> things that seem to have been forgotten by a number of PMC members,
>> across the Foundation, over the past few years.  Please note that this
>> is being sent to all projects - yours has not been singled out.
>>
>> The Project Management Committee (PMC) as a whole[1] is tasked with the
>> oversight, health, and sustainability of the project. The PMC members
>> are responsible collectively, and individually, for ensuring that the
>> project operates in a way that is in line with ASF philosophy, and in a
>> way that serves the developers and users of the project.
>>
>> The PMC Chair is not the project leader, in any sense. It is the person
>> who files board reports and makes sure they are delivered on time. It
>> is the secretary for the project, and the project’s  ambassador to the
>> Board of Directors. The VP title is given as an artifact of US
>> corporate law, and not because the PMC Chair has any special powers. If
>> you are treating your PMC Chair as the project lead, or granting them
>> any other special powers or privileges, you need to be aware that
>> that’s not the intent of the Chair role. The Chair is a PMC member peer
>> with a few extra duties.
>>
>> Every PMC member has an equal voice in deliberations. Each has one
>> vote. Each has veto power. Every vote weighs the same. It is not only
>> your right, but it is your obligation, to use that vote for the good of
>> the project and its users, not to appease the Chair, your employer, or
>> any other voice in the project. 
>>
>> Every PMC member can, and should, nominate new committers, and new PMC
>> members. This is not the sole domain of the PMC Chair. This might be
>> your most important responsibility to the project, as succession
>> planning is the path to sustainability.
>>
>> Every PMC member can, and should, respond when the Board sends email to
>> your private list. You should not wait for the PMC Chair to respond.
>> The Board views the entire PMC as responsible for the project, not just
>> one member.
>>
>> Every PMC member should be subscribed to the private@ mailing list. If
>> you are not, then you are neglecting your duty of oversight. If you no
>> longer wish to be responsible for oversight of the project, you should
>> resign your PMC seat, not merely drop off of the private@ list and
>> ignore it. You can determine which PMC members are not subscribed to
>> your private list by looking at your PMC roster at
>> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/committee/  Names with an asterisk (*)
>> next to them are not subscribed to the list. We encourage you to take a
>> moment to contact them with this information.
>>
>> Thank you for your attention to these matters, and thank you for
>> keeping our projects healthy.
>>
>> Rich, for The Board of Directors
>>
>> [1] https://apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#pmc-members
>>
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Re: Contribution/recruitment!

[Peter kovacs]

I did implement the feature, but it is still untested. However it did compile. 
So I try to prepare a PR so maybe someone else can test. 
I hope I can prepare this weekend.

Am 31. März 2023 08:48:00 MESZ schrieb Bidouille :
>Hello Peter
>Any news for this DATEDIFF PR?
>:-)
>
>- Mail original -
>> De: "Peter Kovacs" 
>> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Envoyé: Dimanche 23 Octobre 2022 12:22:20
>> Objet: Re: Contribution/recruitment!
>> 
>> 
>> Am 22.10.22 um 11:57 schrieb Bidouille:
>> > I don't know why
>> > But Datediff exists in Basic
>> strange.
>> > So link to a function in Calc should be possible :-)
>> > Maybe the OP could have a look on this hack
>> 
>> I wrote an implementation based on the LO one. After I have done some
>> testing I will open a PR.
>> 
>> > - Mail original -
>> >> De: "Matthias Seidel" 
>> >> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> >> Envoyé: Samedi 15 Octobre 2022 18:48:21
>> >> Objet: Re: Contribution/recruitment!
>> >>
>> >> If this is an "easy hack" why is the issue open for 17 years?
>> >>
>> >> :-D
>> >>
>> >> Am 15.10.22 um 13:18 schrieb Bidouille:
>> >>> You have many easy hacks...
>> >>> A good start to you would be have DATEDIFF function in Calc:
>> >>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=49467
>> >>> :-)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> - Mail original -
>> >>>> De: "medo medo" 
>> >>>> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> >>>> Envoyé: Samedi 15 Octobre 2022 00:38:24
>> >>>> Objet: Re: Contribution/recruitment!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hello,I am trying to contribute to OpenOffice but I am totally
>> >>>> lost,
>> >>>> and not sure where to get started.I am willing to code in
>> >>>> C++.Thanks,Ahmed.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 10:51:03 PM GMT+2, Peter Kovacs
>> >>>>   wrote:
>> >>>>   
>> >>>>   
>> >>>> Welcome Ahmed,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We can use your interest in PHP and also C++. From my point of
>> >>>> view
>> >>>> you
>> >>>> decide where to dive into.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you want to look at OpenOffice directly, I suggest you start
>> >>>> with
>> >>>> building OpenOffice on your favourite plattform.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We help you with that.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The second Option is to help with our add ons. We need to check
>> >>>> if
>> >>>> some
>> >>>> of our wikimedia modules run with the latest Wikimedia.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If so, that would be great.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> As Dave said. If you need anything, just ask. :-)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I am looking forward of hearing of you.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> All the best
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Peter
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Am 16.05.22 um 18:27 schrieb medo medo:
>> >>>>> Hello,I am Ahmed Aboubakr from Cairo, Egypt.I am interested in
>> >>>>> contributing to Openoffice project.
>> >>>>> I am not sure where should I get started.Thanks,Ahmed.
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Re: "Open Office" in Australia

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi David,

Open Offices do not necessarily refer to a Software Office Suite. I 
would assume from the webpage they offer focuses on office space.


HTH

Peter

Am 25.03.23 um 08:51 schrieb David Robley:
Just came across this - https://openoffice.com.au/ Are they 
encroaching on AOO in any way, such as name?



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Re: Hello from CSA Prepstar

[Peter Kovacs]

I get a geo block. Can you post am example?

Am 15.03.23 um 01:56 schrieb M B:



Dear OpenOffice Deverlopers.

I'm needing a way to make this delimit by css brackets.

https://www.maxpreps.com/al/football/st ... YXI9MTE%3d

When I try to import the above player information their CSS code brackets seem 
to go unseen by the OO installation during importing. So the problem is that 
the name of the school should be in the same row right after the name of the 
player and we wanted to ask for someones help with this please.

We'd like a quote for helping us import the above maxpreps.com link into 
OpenOffice Calc by keeping the players data in single row upon import with 
delimiter like CSS brackets please.  Thanks.

I reached out to the forum with the same question first:  
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109625

Regards,


Michael B.
760-821-9060





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Re: extension manager not working in 4.1.14

[Peter kovacs]

Hi,

What OS do you use?

All the best
Peter

Am 28. Februar 2023 02:53:10 MEZ schrieb Ed Knolinski :
>Hi,
>I downloaded and installed OpenOffice 4.1.14 and now the extension manager is 
>not working.
>I will probably go back to 4.1.13 until you get the problem fixed.
>
>Ed Knolinski
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release AOO 4.1.14-RC1 as GA

[Peter Kovacs]

The Release Candidate is good for production/GA:

   [x] yes / +1

   [ ] no / -1

My vote is based on

   [x] binding (member of PMC)

   [ ] I have built and tested the RC from source on platform [ ]

   [x] I have tested the binary RC on platform [macOS 13.2.1]

I have tested sample fixes. No showstoppers found.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Release AOO 4.1.14-RC1 as GA

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 20.02.23 um 00:15 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

Am 19.02.23 um 23:59 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Am 19.02.23 um 23:44 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

This should not be in [VOTE] but in [DISCUSS], we should keep the
thread "clean".


I voted no because i was unsure if the wild shot is correct

Sorry, your vote was in a "comment" area. I didn't realize that.

my mistake. I was lazy.

I installed the X64 version of Adoptium JAVA 11 on our M1 machine and
could open the file without problem.

So this would be something for the Release Notes, macOS section?


yes I have managed to work around the issue by executing the following
steps. (other guides faild)

sudo softwareupdate --install-rosetta
brew tap adoptopenjdk/openjdk && brew install --cask adoptopenjdk8
browse Add java to
/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/adoptopenjdk-8.jdk/Contents/bin

Isn't Rosetta installed as default? I didn't have to do all this, it
just worked.

I had no java installed. Most java guides I found lead to the behavior.

I wound like to test more. is it possible to wait until wednesday?

Maybe. But personally I don't think this is a release blocker.

I agree, but I want to check a little more. I am late to the party. :)


Regards,

    Matthias


all the best


Regards,

    Matthias

Am 19.02.23 um 23:21 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hi all,

I am sorry. May be I found something.


The Release Candidate is good for production/GA:

     [ ] yes / +1

     [x] no / -1

My vote is based on

     [x] binding (member of PMC)

     [ ] I have built and tested the RC from source on platform [ ]

     [x] I have tested the binary RC on platform [Mac M2 Ventura]

This vote will be open for 7 days to allow for sufficient time
for testing, review, and voting.


I am not able to load the file from issue 81233.

1) Download file

2) open file with AOO RC1

3) java missing (ok, installing tamruin Java - the former Adopt
Variant.)

4) Preference shows the Version

5) File load fails as if no java is there

6) on close i get a crash report


note: the Java version is a Silicon compiled variant. I suspect it
is incompatible with our bridge.

I hope I have more soon.

All the best


https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=81233

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Re: [DISCUSS] Release AOO 4.1.14-RC1 as GA

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 19.02.23 um 23:44 schrieb Matthias Seidel:


Hi Peter,

This should not be in [VOTE] but in [DISCUSS], we should keep the 
thread "clean".



I voted no because i was unsure if the wild shot is correct


I installed the X64 version of Adoptium JAVA 11 on our M1 machine and 
could open the file without problem.


So this would be something for the Release Notes, macOS section?

yes I have managed to work around the issue by executing the following 
steps. (other guides faild)


sudo softwareupdate --install-rosetta
brew tap adoptopenjdk/openjdk && brew install --cask adoptopenjdk8
browse Add java to 
/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/adoptopenjdk-8.jdk/Contents/bin

I wound like to test more. is it possible to wait until wednesday?

all the best


Regards,

   Matthias

Am 19.02.23 um 23:21 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hi all,

I am sorry. May be I found something.


The Release Candidate is good for production/GA:

    [ ] yes / +1

    [x] no / -1

My vote is based on

    [x] binding (member of PMC)

    [ ] I have built and tested the RC from source on platform [ ]

    [x] I have tested the binary RC on platform [Mac M2 Ventura]

This vote will be open for 7 days to allow for sufficient time
for testing, review, and voting.



I am not able to load the file from issue 81233.

1) Download file

2) open file with AOO RC1

3) java missing (ok, installing tamruin Java - the former Adopt 
Variant.)


4) Preference shows the Version

5) File load fails as if no java is there

6) on close i get a crash report


note: the Java version is a Silicon compiled variant. I suspect it is 
incompatible with our bridge.


I hope I have more soon.

All the best


https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=81233

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Re: [VOTE] Release AOO 4.1.14-RC1 as GA

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi all,

I am sorry. May be I found something.


The Release Candidate is good for production/GA:

[ ] yes / +1

[x] no / -1

My vote is based on

[x] binding (member of PMC)

[ ] I have built and tested the RC from source on platform [ ]

[x] I have tested the binary RC on platform [Mac M2 Ventura]

This vote will be open for 7 days to allow for sufficient time
for testing, review, and voting.



I am not able to load the file from issue 81233.

1) Download file

2) open file with AOO RC1

3) java missing (ok, installing tamruin Java - the former Adopt Variant.)

4) Preference shows the Version

5) File load fails as if no java is there

6) on close i get a crash report


note: the Java version is a Silicon compiled variant. I suspect it is 
incompatible with our bridge.


I hope I have more soon.

All the best


https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=81233


crash.odt
Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text

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Re: Testing AOO on macOS

[Peter Kovacs]

I can click on "Text document" to open a new document with a local mac.

i check later with the remote.


Am 19.02.23 um 10:45 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:

Dear All,

for some reason, our Catalina-based macMini shared instance is giving
me problems when testing AOO.

Buttons do not seem to behave properly.

For example: once AOO opens, I cannot click on "Text document" to open
a new document. My clicks seem to be ignored.

The menus work: I can click File -> New and have a new document.

I believe that these problems are given by the remote control program
I am using. I would be grateful if anyone with a ``physical'' mac in
their hands -- or other users of our shared macMini as well -- could
confirm that the UI of the current RC is working as expected.

Thank you in advance and best regards,


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Re: Debug oo Calc

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Stephan,

You wrote to the dev mailing list.

Am 08.02.23 um 22:53 schrieb Stephan Telgenkamp - HOT Sports + Toys:

Hello Team,

Happy user of the OpenOffice Suite.

Now my oo Calc is giving problems.
It hangs on making the backup.

Is there a manual to debug this ?


I do not get what you are doing. can you write more details?

1 Operating System

2 Order of action steps you execute

3 How big is your calc file?


thanks



Kind regards,
Stephan Telgenkamp
HOT Sports + Toys
Celsiusstraat 18b
1704 RW HEERHUGOWAARD
+31(0)72-5743193
http://www.hotgames.nl 


Bezoek ons / Visit us / Visitez nous / Besuchen Sie uns : 
Spielwarenmesse Hal 10.0 I-14


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Re: AOO 4.1.14

[Peter Kovacs]

hope it is not to bad :(

Best recovery to you!

Am 07.02.23 um 15:09 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Carl,

Am 07.02.23 um 14:52 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi All,

On 2/7/23 4:48 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi all,

I think it is time for the next release.

I have created the Release Schedule [1] for AOO 4.1.14 now. Please join!

Regards,

  Matthias

[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.14



I volunteered for QA and announcements.

Thanks!

After all the time avoiding it I am now Corona positive...

However, I may still be able to do basic work.

Regards,

    Matthias


Best regards,

Carl


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Organise Icon themes (was: Problem with DAEMON)

[Peter Kovacs]

Good morning all,


On Wiki and webpage I found following resources:

[1] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Icon_style_history

[2] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Icon_Design

[3] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Icon_Themes

[4] https://www.openoffice.org/ui/

We should create a resource for Manjiro5s proposals.
Wiki seems a good space for new stuff. However I would like to reduce 
the fragmantation we currently face.


@Manjiro5
Do you have a wiki account?

All the best
Peter

 Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
Betreff:Re: Problem with DAEMON
Datum:  Mon, 6 Feb 2023 06:57:50 +0100
Von:Xavier Verbrèghe 
An: Peter Kovacs 



Hello,
I think that this is the fact that I put a Google Drive link which 
stopped sending the email.


Regards.
Manjiro5

Le sam. 4 févr. 2023 à 16:48, Peter Kovacs  a écrit :

   hi Manjiro5,

   the mail arrived.

   all the best

   Peter

   @all

   Maybe it is best to upload icons to the wiki?



   Am 04.02.23 um 15:53 schrieb Xavier Verbrèghe:
> Hello, I can no longer send emails to the list, no one receives
   them and
> DAEMON sends me a message saying that it no longer works. How to
   remedy
> this and so that I can propose a new wordmark for OpenOffice?
> Regards.
> Manjiro5
>

Re: Problem with DAEMON

[Peter Kovacs]

hi Manjiro5,

the mail arrived.

all the best

Peter

@all

Maybe it is best to upload icons to the wiki?



Am 04.02.23 um 15:53 schrieb Xavier Verbrèghe:

Hello, I can no longer send emails to the list, no one receives them and
DAEMON sends me a message saying that it no longer works. How to remedy
this and so that I can propose a new wordmark for OpenOffice?
Regards.
Manjiro5



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Re: 41X fails to build in Ubuntu 18.04 (was Re: Fails to build on Pop!_OS 18.04)

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 24.01.23 um 22:21 schrieb Pedro Lino:

On 01/24/2023 7:48 PM WET Damjan Jovanovic  wrote:
Can you please run:
find /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64 | grep jawt

/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/lib/amd64/libjawt.so
/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/libjawt.so


strange. I have:

/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/lib/amd64/libjawt.so
/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/include/jawt.h
/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/include/linux/jawt_md.h
/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/libjawt.so


  

And what is your SOLARINC environment variable set to? After "source
LinuxX86-64Env.Set.sh", run "echo $SOLARINC" and post the results.

Let's see all of it, eg. is
-I/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/include/linux there?

-I. -I/source/openoffice/main/solver/4114/unxlngx6.pro/inc/stl 
-I/source/openoffice/main/solver/4114/unxlngx6.pro/inc/external 
-I/source/openoffice/main/solver/4114/unxlngx6.pro/inc 
-I/source/openoffice/main/solenv/unxlngx6/inc 
-I/source/openoffice/main/solenv/inc -I/source/openoffice/main/res 
-I/source/openoffice/main/solenv/inc/Xp31 
-I/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/include 
-I/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/include/linux 
-I/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/include/native_threads/include 
-I/usr/include
  
Thanks!

Pedro

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Re: Fails to build on Pop!_OS 18.04

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 23.01.23 um 11:54 schrieb Pedro Lino:

Hi Peter


On 01/23/2023 9:27 AM WET Peter Kovacs  wrote:

Unfortunately I can no longer build 41X in 18.04

Compiling: beans/native/unix/com_sun_star_comp_beans_LocalOfficeWindow.c
com_sun_star_comp_beans_LocalOfficeWindow.c:35:10: fatal error: jawt_md.h: No 
such file or directory
   #include "jawt_md.h"
^~~
compilation terminated.
dmake:  Error code 1, while making 
'../../unxlngx6.pro/slo/com_sun_star_comp_beans_LocalOfficeWindow.obj'

the file should be in /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64

can you check and post the path please?

The path to Java is
--with-jdk-home=/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64


yes, but it looks on disk like the following?

ls /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64
ASSEMBLY_EXCEPTION  bin  docs  include  jre  lib  man  src.zip 
THIRD_PARTY_README




Thanks!
Pedro

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Re: Fails to build on Pop!_OS 18.04

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 22.01.23 um 12:36 schrieb Pedro Lino:

Hi all

I have given up on Pop!_OS 18.04 because it is no longer supported while Ubuntu 
18.04 still is

Unfortunately I can no longer build 41X in 18.04

Compiling: beans/native/unix/com_sun_star_comp_beans_LocalOfficeWindow.c
com_sun_star_comp_beans_LocalOfficeWindow.c:35:10: fatal error: jawt_md.h: No 
such file or directory
  #include "jawt_md.h"
   ^~~
compilation terminated.
dmake:  Error code 1, while making 
'../../unxlngx6.pro/slo/com_sun_star_comp_beans_LocalOfficeWindow.obj'


the file should be in /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64

can you check and post the path please?



I'm using the same configure command I have used with success for all previous 
41X builds

Is this a known regression? Or is it simply my problem?

Thanks!
Pedro

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Re: Nightly Builds

[Peter kovacs]

The output from git --log can be filtered to a since date. If we use the last 
build date then we can check if there are entries.
Maybe some other switches would help.

Am 21. Januar 2023 15:03:02 MEZ schrieb Matthias Seidel 
:
>Hi Gavin,
>
>Am 21.01.23 um 13:33 schrieb Gavin McDonald:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> The nightly builds at https://ci2.apache.org/#/builders/58 are using up
>> much unnecessary
>> disk space on the nightlies.apache.org server.
>>
>> Currently Openoffice alone is using more than 1TB - all due to these
>> nightly builds.
>> Over 600GB are the linux64 snapshots and the rest are the linsnap* ones.
>>
>> Many many of these snapshots are identical to previous ones, but because
>> the date of the build is included then they are just repeated each day.
>> Even if no commits for weeks there is multi GB tars and debs being uploaded
>> each day.
>>
>> This seems a waste.
>>
>> Not only this, but no snapshots are being cleaned up, we have snapshots
>> dating back nearly a year just sitting there.
>>
>> Lets clean this up and be smarter going forwards.
>>
>> I would like to see these nightlies changed :-
>>
>> 1. Change to run weekly instead of daily.
>> 2. Instead of, or in addition to 1, build and upload by commit trigger.
>
>Just to clarify:
>
>I think the logic should be: Look every day (night) if there was a code
>change. If yes, do a build, otherwise skip.
>
>I don't want to trigger a build with every single commit... ;-)
>
>Regards,
>
>   Matthias
>
>> 3. Clean up snapshots older than 1 month.
>>
>> Thoughts please
>>
>

Re: Buildbot problems

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 15.01.23 um 07:12 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:

Hi

I am trying to get all the buildbots working again, but there are many
problems...

1. All the Windows buildbots are failing in "./configure" with:
configure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub

This could be due to \r\n line endings or a BOM on main/config.sub, but
I've checked and it uses neither in Git, so I have no idea what's wrong.
How do we retrieve config.log from the buildbot?


maybe autoconf is missing? the win bots will fail anyways because of 
wrong awk.




2. Git-based projects are supposed to use
https://github.com/apache/infrastructure-bb2 instead of the SVN-based
https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/buildbot2 that we use.
They're different repositories, not different links to the same repository.


I have updated the links in build column.


3. The "puppet" links on
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Buildbot+info are
dead. In the table on that page, all the "Build", "Host VM", and "Logs"
links are dead.

It turns out that for "Logs", the link should be, for instance:
https://nightlies.apache.org/openoffice/buildlogs/linux64*/log/log/*
unxlngx6.pro.build.html
instead of:
https://nightlies.apache.org/openoffice/buildlogs/linux64*/log/*
unxlngx6.pro.build.html
probably because the buildbot's openoffice.py file does:
'mkdir' , '-p' , 'log/logarch/log'
'cp -fv log/*.html log/logarch/log'
mkdir -p buildlogs/linux64/log && cp -rp log/logarch/* buildlogs/linux64/log
so that's why we end up with the .../log/log/... in the path.
Ideas?

no idea.


4. On https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Buildbot, the "Buildbot
Configuration File" link was dead, but I was able to fix it to use the new
link. The link to the "overview" probably goes to the wrong page (shouldn't
it be the "Waterfall View" page on ci2.apache.org?).

5. On https://nightlies.apache.org/openoffice/ all the "Build Logs" links
are dead. Many/all of the SDK links are dead.


I am not sure but i think the sdks were deactivated.

we can add them anytime if needed.



Please help?

Thank you
Damjan



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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Maintenance Window on Forums and Wiki

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 11.01.23 um 16:42 schrieb casa...@email.it:

I was hoping that the opportunity was good to fix the registration form of the 
Italian forum, but it was not so.
 From the Italian forum it seems you don't care about anyone...


@casalva The maintenance have been triggered by infra. Wrong people.

@Andrea / @Dave: can i help? I have time on Mondays, but need some 
starting help.




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Re: ByteString vs Strbuf vs OString

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 07.01.23 um 10:32 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:

On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 9:51 AM Peter Kovacs  wrote:


Hi all,


I have an emotional issue and I need some help.

I think the classes mentioned in subject are all crap. They are all ugly
and I do not want to use any of them.

I would like to remove them. And replace them with


   std::basic_stringstream


   std::string


But this is a huge and fundamental change. What I would like to do is to
hollow out the classes we use, one by one, until everything is using std
classes or can cast to. Then remove the now obsolete classes within the
code.

any objections?



Hi

Please leave them alone. They all have their purpose, and they work in very
specific ways to accomplish their tasks.


I did not think about java integration. Good point!



The main/tools String with its 16 bit length, saves space for the large
number of strings in Calc cells.


I am not sure what you mean. mnLen is sal_Int32 and Sal_char is 8 bit.

rtl/strbuf uses almost the same data structure. Maybe I miss something?



The main/sal OString and OUString are 32 bit and copy-on-write, like Java's
java.lang.String. Also UNO serializes to and from OUString for C++.

I do agree that string type changes will be necessary in some cases. For
example if we want to increase our 16 bit limit on maximum paragraph size
to 32 bits, we will probably have to change the tools String to a longer
string type.

The real crap classes that should be replaced ASAP are the 16 bit main/svl
PTRARR, which I replaced in 2 places in
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/164, but which is used in another
53 places (
http://opengrok.openoffice.org/search?project=trunk&full=SV_DECL_PTRARR&defs=&refs=&path=&hist=&type=&si=full).
Many 16 bit limits come from that class. And I now discovered another 22
usages of SV_DECL_PTRARR_SORT. The problem is, that has many knock-on
effects, as is clear from the size of my PR.

I have look on those. Thanks.


We also have a bunch of primitive pre-STL main/tools classes like Container
and List, written around 1994 and generally not very good at anything,
including performance.

I'll have a look on those, too.


Yes, the way C++ is used in OpenOffice is unusual and foreign to everyone.
But eventually it makes sense. Start with one of the more recently
developed modules, like the OOXML filter in main/oox, or the Base
application in main/dbaccess, which were written closer to 2010 and are
much cleaner, easier to read and understand, use STL containers, etc. I've
been improving that OOXML filter lately and could help you get started.


Thanks for your feedback!

All the best

Peter


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Re: Marketing Mailing List

[Peter Kovacs]

+1 in favor

Am 07.01.23 um 17:31 schrieb Dave:

The marketing mailing list has a deteriorating level of usefulness.
Since 2014 there have been 330 posts, the majority of which had very
little to do with the "marketing" the software or promotion of the project:
 Year Posts
 2014  211
 2015   40
 2016   43
 2017   21
 20184
 20192
 20203
 20213
 20223
Total 330

Apart from the small flurry of activity in 2014 just before Rob Weir
retired from the project. the mailing list has served almost no useful
purpose, other than to attract a steady 24/7 stream of spam posts.

Since the project doesn't engage in any marketing activity and those few
events at which we attend are normally discussed on the dev list, I
propose that, unless any member of the project can offer any clear and
fully justifiable reason for doing otherwise, we shut down the "spam
bait" marketing list.

Dave

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ByteString vs Strbuf vs OString

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi all,


I have an emotional issue and I need some help.

I think the classes mentioned in subject are all crap. They are all ugly 
and I do not want to use any of them.


I would like to remove them. And replace them with


 std::basic_stringstream


 std::string


But this is a huge and fundamental change. What I would like to do is to 
hollow out the classes we use, one by one, until everything is using std 
classes or can cast to. Then remove the now obsolete classes within the 
code.


any objections?


All the best

Peter

Re: Fwd: Bug in Calc - Search and Substitute.

[Peter Kovacs]

hello Mauro,

Am 04.01.23 um 16:11 schrieb Mauro (GMail):

Hallo Peter,
I'm sorry you didn't see my problem... it's very unpleasant!

makes it more difficult to hunt the issue.

And I've seen it from a lot of version.
😊

Sorry, I forgot the AOO version, so I add the graphic card too.
- PC: HP Working Station ZBook with Intel HD Graphics 530 and his 
monitor 1600x900.

- OS: Win10.
- Monitor 2: Extension Philips 272B connected to NVidia Quadro M1000M.
- AOO 4.1.13, but my problem is present from a lot of version, I don't 
know from when.

What about Java?


Thank you and best regards,


you are welcome

peter


Mauro.


Peter Kovacs ha scritto il 02/01/2023 alle 22:37:


Hi all,

I tested the report today.

My system differs slightly.

I tested with

- AOO 4.1.12

- win 11

- 2x ASUS screens with AMD GPU

- OpenJDK is installed


I have no issues.

@mauro

What Version of AOO do you use?

Do you have Java 32bit installed?


All the best

Peter

Am 28.12.22 um 14:30 schrieb Matthias Seidel:


Hi all,

FYI

Can anyone confirm/test?

Regards,

   Matthias



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Datum: Wed, 28 Dec 2022 11:50:18 +0100
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Good morning,
I'd like to evidence a bug in Calc.

The base system information are:
- PC: HP Working Station ZBook
- OS: Win10.
- Monitor:
   - Monitor 1: HP Working Station ZBook
   - Monitor 2: Extension Philips 272B

The conditions are:
1) _Use Calc in monitor 2_.
2) Press Ctrl-F to open the Search and Substitute Box.
_Leave the Search and Substitute Box on Monitor 1._
3) Click on More Option Button.
 The Search and Substitute Box disappear, it's no more visible.

The only system to view again the Search and Substitute Box is:
- disconnect the Monitor 2
- open the Search and Substitute Box again.

This bug is present for a long time now and very old version.
😉

Hope to help you, best regards,
Mauro Francioni.

Bologna - Italia.




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Re: Fails to build on Pop!_OS 18.04

[Peter Kovacs]

did you configure --with-jdk-home=

?

Am 04.01.23 um 20:35 schrieb Pedro Lino:

On 01/04/2023 12:33 PM WET Damjan Jovanovic  wrote:

  
On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 1:47 PM Pedro Lino 

wrote:


Hi all

I'm testing a UEFI compatible Linux OS named Pop!_OS
Compiling 41X fails on bean with messages

WARNING(S):
Some modules contain old output trees! Please check: bean

=
Building module bean
=

Entering /source/openoffice/main/bean/com/sun/star/comp/beans


Entering /source/openoffice/main/bean/native/unix

Compiling: beans/native/unix/com_sun_star_comp_beans_LocalOfficeWindow.c
com_sun_star_comp_beans_LocalOfficeWindow.c:35:10: fatal error: jawt_md.h:
No such file or directory
  #include "jawt_md.h"
   ^~~
compilation terminated.
dmake:  Error code 1, while making '../../
unxlngx6.pro/slo/com_sun_star_comp_beans_LocalOfficeWindow.obj'


Any tips/instructions that a non-dev can follow?

Thanks!

Pedro



Hi Pedro

What Java version do you have installed?

Regard
Damjan

Hi Damjan

openjdk version "1.8.0_352"

Thanks!
Pedro

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Re: Fwd: Bug in Calc - Search and Substitute.

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi all,

I tested the report today.

My system differs slightly.

I tested with

- AOO 4.1.12

- win 11

- 2x ASUS screens with AMD GPU

- OpenJDK is installed


I have no issues.

@mauro

What Version of AOO do you use?

Do you have Java 32bit installed?


All the best

Peter

Am 28.12.22 um 14:30 schrieb Matthias Seidel:


Hi all,

FYI

Can anyone confirm/test?

Regards,

   Matthias



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Datum:  Wed, 28 Dec 2022 11:50:18 +0100
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An: us...@openoffice.apache.org



Good morning,
I'd like to evidence a bug in Calc.

The base system information are:
- PC: HP Working Station ZBook
- OS: Win10.
- Monitor:
   - Monitor 1: HP Working Station ZBook
   - Monitor 2: Extension Philips 272B

The conditions are:
1) _Use Calc in monitor 2_.
2) Press Ctrl-F to open the Search and Substitute Box.
_Leave the Search and Substitute Box on Monitor 1._
3) Click on More Option Button.
 The Search and Substitute Box disappear, it's no more visible.

The only system to view again the Search and Substitute Box is:
- disconnect the Monitor 2
- open the Search and Substitute Box again.

This bug is present for a long time now and very old version.
😉

Hope to help you, best regards,
Mauro Francioni.

Bologna - Italia.

Re: Happy...

[Peter Kovacs]

Happy new Year !

I am looking forward on this year, i hope it will be an exiting one.

Peter

Am 01.01.23 um 19:39 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

...new year! ;-)

Matthias




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Re: Managed build on Ubuntu 22.04 but I had to change some stuff.

[Peter Kovacs]

Thanks Yuri,


Am 31.12.22 um 07:36 schrieb Yury Tarasievich:

On 30/12/2022 22:44, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> I managed to Build AOO trunk on Ubuntu 22.04.
> The build has been rough and with a lot of Issues.

FWIW, I'm using for a year and a half the AOO trunk built from source 
in C++11 mode, with GCC 10 through 12 (Slackware current). I believe 
I've posted the patch here, and it still works (allows building in my 
configuration).

I check for the patch.


However, in recent such builds 'macro security' button (Options- 
OpenOffice - Security dialog) stopped responding, and macros in Java 
and Python stopped being launched (first try gives warning about 
'document containing macros', subsequent tries do nothing).
What GUI Do you use? Have you opened a BZ report for this? We might need 
to investigate.


-Yury

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Re: Managed build on Ubuntu 22.04 but I had to change some stuff.

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 30.12.22 um 20:52 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Peter,

What version of make do you use?


Ahh thanks. Ubuntu uses 4.3 which you said already reported as not an issue.

I will have to look at different systems.



Regards,

    Matthias

Am 30.12.22 um 20:44 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hello all,

I managed to Build AOO trunk on Ubuntu 22.04. The build has been rough
and with a lot of Issues.

I would like to write the issues here for documentation.

1, 2 and 3 are Issues on the old dependencies we build. All other
Issues was on our Code as far as I understand.

1) CoinMP

1.1) dmake builds with C17 standard

I have seen a lot of warnings that register is not allowed to use with
C++17 Standard.

(I worked around from building the Library directly and then use dmake
in order to continue.)

1.2) Macro Variable not set.

In the file CoinFinite.cpp  the following code has not worked through:

[...]

#ifdef HAVE_CFLOAT
# include 

[...]

I was not able to figure out how to fix this. I did just add the
include line again without the ifdef condition.

2)SQLite

I had to do 3 Adjustments.

2.1) in one line is follort by an assert statement, which triggers a
error in g++.

workaround: Added a linebreak

2.2) A warning that a Pointer is returned.

See following discussion:

https://sqlite.org/forum/info/eadcdb7058803d20

In fact I added following Change:

https://www.sqlite.org/src/vdiff?branch=cgo-warning-workaround&dc=20

Just be carefull with line 143. Just add pAllocated =

3) Boost

I had to change the file

main/solver/450/unxlngx6/inc/boost/mpl/assert.hpp

I ended up changing and commenting out:

//template< typename Pred >(Pred::assert_arg( void (*)(Pred), typename
assert_arg_pred::type ));
//template< typename Pred >(boost::mpl::not_::assert_not_arg(
void (*)(Pred), typename assert_arg_pred_not::type ));

I am not sure if this is a local issue, or if this is in general. The
lines look odd. (it is line 186 if you want to have a look.)


4) osl mutex

main/sal/osl/unx/mutex.c

I commented out the following code:
#if defined LINUX /* bad hack /
int pthread_mutexattr_setkind_np(pthread_mutexattr_t *, int);
#define pthread_mutexattr_settype pthread_mutexattr_setkind_np
#define PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE_NP
#endif


Not sure what the background is, but it compiled afterwards.

5)  CUI

main/cui/Library_cui.mk

I had this issue before. And I am not able to figure out what the
issue is exactly. Maybe my version number is wrong.

$(eval $(call gb_Library_add_defs,cui,
-DBUILD_VER_STRING="$(BUILD_VER_STRING)" ))

So I skipped the line for now:

My line:

--with-build-version="aoo4ever-$(date +"%Y-%m-%d %H:%M") - $(uname
-sm)\n ${GitHash}"

I will have a look if I can change something in order to improve this.


I had no other issues with the build. Especially the Issue Matthias
has reported did not appear.

I will keep looking on the Issues Matthias has reported. I assume this
is more a Windows Issue.

I hope this information is useful to some.

Have a good new years end party. :)

All the best

Peter





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Re: Profile Backup/Restore

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 30.12.22 um 20:46 schrieb Dave:

So AOO is incapable of, or prohibited from, spawning an external process?

So an AOO extension is not really an option and the very long standing
problem of our users data being destroyed by this issue continues on
unresolved, because we don't THINK it can be done instead of finding a
way to get it done.

I just threw an idea into the pot for consideration, I never claimed it
was in anyway a perfect, or even workable solution.


I do not see a technical Issue. AOO is loading a profile and can write 
one if no one exists.


It should not be a problem to write a export function, based on the code 
exists. And it should also be possible to load a profile from a 
different resource.


Also we should be able if we cant load the profile instead of crashing 
to default back to the profile we load when no profile exists. Which 
also should be an improvement.


I hope we will provide a solution within next year, as commented by Jon 
Ho the profile corruption is imho also an effect from the document 
corruption Issue. Which I hope to continue to look at in next year.


All the best

Peter



Best Regards
Dave

On 30/12/2022 18:49, Carl Marcum wrote:

I can understand using a standalone application but how can an extension
work if it depends on the office running?
As you said you check for it and close it first in yours.

Best regards,
Carl

On 12/30/22 8:39 AM, Moderator wrote:

Yes an extension would work, I wrote a free standing Windows exe in
PureBasicfor my own use.

You are correct in saying it is unwise to access a user profile while
AOO is running, which is why my code tests for a running instance of LO
and closes it first. Obviously I would not just close the program if the
code was not exclusively for my own personal use.

I have never developed an edition of the code for Linux or Apple,
because I have watched mailing list, forum complaints and bug reports
for over 10 years and the profile corruption issue seems to be mostly a
Windows issue.


On 30/12/2022 12:35, Bidouille wrote:

An extension will not work.
Because OpenOffice shoudn't be running to access on profile.


- Mail original -----

De: "Peter Kovacs"
À:dev@openoffice.apache.org
Envoyé: Vendredi 30 Décembre 2022 12:40:06
Objet: Re: Profile Backup/Restore

Hi Pedro,

Am 28.12.22 um 23:30 schrieb Pedro Lino:

Hi all

Thank you for the feedback.

I was not thinking of Profile corruption (although the solution for
some issues is resetting the profile which means that some part of
it was corrupted?)

It was more a tool to Backup a working profile and hopefully being
able to import it in another machine.

Having separate check boxes to import/export different parts of the
profile was my main idea (it could also be used as debugging tool
to pinpoint the problem when a corruption actually occurs)

Resetting a profile (as suggested repeatedly) solves some problems
but wastes a lot of time and effort that the user already had
accumulated in his profile.

As an example, it would be really useful to backup the personal
dictionary on one computer and being able to import (merge?) in
another.
I am aware that you can dig in to the profile structure and copy a
file. But a common user would not do that.

Can this be done with an extension?

sure we can create this as an extension. The Main issue is still we
need
to integrate the functionality.

All the best

Peter


Thanks!
Pedro


On 12/28/2022 9:34 PM WET Carl Marcum  wrote:

    Hi All,

On 12/28/22 2:53 PM, Peter kovacs wrote:

I am not sure which issue it is.
There is one script from Hana that resets the user profile. We
need to package it and make it execute by menue

I have the suspicion that the profile corruption is related to
the file corruption issue. On power fail, or sleep a file can
become corrupted when AOO tries to write in the same moment.
It is quite hard to create this.

All the best
Peter

Am 28. Dezember 2022 16:51:03 MEZ schrieb Damjan
Jovanovic:

Hi all

On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 4:55 PM Matthias
Seidel
wrote:


Hi Pedro,

Am 19.12.22 um 13:39 schrieb Pedro Lino:

Hi all

Is there any extension to Backup/Restore the contents of the
User

Profile?

I don't mean copy files but actually exporting and importing
the

contents?

If there isn't, is any of the developers on this mailing list
interested

in creating one?

I believe this would be a great contribution to all OpenOffice
users...

I volunteer to do any testing required!

I think this has been discussed several times in the last
years, but
nothing ever happened.

I am a bit concerned that this time you didn't even get a
reaction...


It's the festive season, many people aren't reading emails.



Personally, I would prefer an extension (OS independent), but I
could
imagine problems with copying/restoring the profile while AOO
is still
active.


Is the user profile only read at startup and written to at
shutdown or is it more dynamic than that?
If so 

Managed build on Ubuntu 22.04 but I had to change some stuff.

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello all,

I managed to Build AOO trunk on Ubuntu 22.04. The build has been rough 
and with a lot of Issues.


I would like to write the issues here for documentation.

1, 2 and 3 are Issues on the old dependencies we build. All other Issues 
was on our Code as far as I understand.


1) CoinMP

1.1) dmake builds with C17 standard

I have seen a lot of warnings that register is not allowed to use with 
C++17 Standard.


(I worked around from building the Library directly and then use dmake 
in order to continue.)


1.2) Macro Variable not set.

In the file CoinFinite.cpp  the following code has not worked through:

[...]

#ifdef HAVE_CFLOAT
# include 

[...]

I was not able to figure out how to fix this. I did just add the include 
line again without the ifdef condition.


2)SQLite

I had to do 3 Adjustments.

2.1) in one line is follort by an assert statement, which triggers a 
error in g++.


workaround: Added a linebreak

2.2) A warning that a Pointer is returned.

See following discussion:

https://sqlite.org/forum/info/eadcdb7058803d20

In fact I added following Change:

https://www.sqlite.org/src/vdiff?branch=cgo-warning-workaround&dc=20

Just be carefull with line 143. Just add pAllocated =

3) Boost

I had to change the file

main/solver/450/unxlngx6/inc/boost/mpl/assert.hpp

I ended up changing and commenting out:

//template< typename Pred >(Pred::assert_arg( void (*)(Pred), typename 
assert_arg_pred::type ));
//template< typename Pred >(boost::mpl::not_::assert_not_arg( void 
(*)(Pred), typename assert_arg_pred_not::type ));


I am not sure if this is a local issue, or if this is in general. The 
lines look odd. (it is line 186 if you want to have a look.)



4) osl mutex

main/sal/osl/unx/mutex.c

I commented out the following code:
#if defined LINUX /* bad hack /
int pthread_mutexattr_setkind_np(pthread_mutexattr_t *, int);
#define pthread_mutexattr_settype pthread_mutexattr_setkind_np
#define PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE_NP
#endif


Not sure what the background is, but it compiled afterwards.

5)  CUI

main/cui/Library_cui.mk

I had this issue before. And I am not able to figure out what the issue 
is exactly. Maybe my version number is wrong.


$(eval $(call gb_Library_add_defs,cui, 
-DBUILD_VER_STRING="$(BUILD_VER_STRING)" ))


So I skipped the line for now:

My line:

--with-build-version="aoo4ever-$(date +"%Y-%m-%d %H:%M") - $(uname 
-sm)\n ${GitHash}"


I will have a look if I can change something in order to improve this.


I had no other issues with the build. Especially the Issue Matthias has 
reported did not appear.


I will keep looking on the Issues Matthias has reported. I assume this 
is more a Windows Issue.


I hope this information is useful to some.

Have a good new years end party. :)

All the best

Peter

Re: Fwd: Bug in Calc - Search and Substitute.

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 30.12.22 um 19:00 schrieb Marcus:

Am 28.12.22 um 14:30 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

FYI
Can anyone confirm/test?


maybe a Linux-only issue. On my Linux system with 2 monitors no dialog 
boxes or document windows will disappear.


Do you mean Windows?

I can test Windows in the next days. I have 2 Monitors. I just was not 
at home the past days.




Marcus




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Good morning,
I'd like to evidence a bug in Calc.

The base system information are:
- PC: HP Working Station ZBook
- OS: Win10.
- Monitor:
    - Monitor 1: HP Working Station ZBook
    - Monitor 2: Extension Philips 272B

The conditions are:
1) _Use Calc in monitor 2_.
2) Press Ctrl-F to open the Search and Substitute Box.
_Leave the Search and Substitute Box on Monitor 1._
3) Click on More Option Button.
  The Search and Substitute Box disappear, it's no more visible.

The only system to view again the Search and Substitute Box is:
- disconnect the Monitor 2
- open the Search and Substitute Box again.

This bug is present for a long time now and very old version.



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Re: Profile Backup/Restore

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Pedro,

Am 28.12.22 um 23:30 schrieb Pedro Lino:

Hi all

Thank you for the feedback.

I was not thinking of Profile corruption (although the solution for some issues 
is resetting the profile which means that some part of it was corrupted?)

It was more a tool to Backup a working profile and hopefully being able to 
import it in another machine.

Having separate check boxes to import/export different parts of the profile was 
my main idea (it could also be used as debugging tool to pinpoint the problem 
when a corruption actually occurs)

Resetting a profile (as suggested repeatedly) solves some problems but wastes a 
lot of time and effort that the user already had accumulated in his profile.

As an example, it would be really useful to backup the personal dictionary on 
one computer and being able to import (merge?) in another.
I am aware that you can dig in to the profile structure and copy a file. But a 
common user would not do that.

Can this be done with an extension?


sure we can create this as an extension. The Main issue is still we need 
to integrate the functionality.


All the best

Peter



Thanks!
Pedro


On 12/28/2022 9:34 PM WET Carl Marcum  wrote:

  
Hi All,


On 12/28/22 2:53 PM, Peter kovacs wrote:

I am not sure which issue it is.
There is one script from Hana that resets the user profile. We need to package 
it and make it execute by menue

I have the suspicion that the profile corruption is related to the file 
corruption issue. On power fail, or sleep a file can become corrupted when AOO 
tries to write in the same moment.
It is quite hard to create this.

All the best
Peter

Am 28. Dezember 2022 16:51:03 MEZ schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:

Hi all

On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 4:55 PM Matthias Seidel
wrote:


Hi Pedro,

Am 19.12.22 um 13:39 schrieb Pedro Lino:

Hi all

Is there any extension to Backup/Restore the contents of the User

Profile?

I don't mean copy files but actually exporting and importing the

contents?

If there isn't, is any of the developers on this mailing list interested

in creating one?

I believe this would be a great contribution to all OpenOffice users...

I volunteer to do any testing required!

I think this has been discussed several times in the last years, but
nothing ever happened.

I am a bit concerned that this time you didn't even get a reaction...


It's the festive season, many people aren't reading emails.



Personally, I would prefer an extension (OS independent), but I could
imagine problems with copying/restoring the profile while AOO is still
active.


Is the user profile only read at startup and written to at shutdown or is it 
more dynamic than that?
If so that could be a problem for doing it during a session, especially the 
restore part.

Making a backup copy during the session is probably reasonable though.


If profile corruption is such a problem, why don't we fix it?

I've been using since Star Office and never once had a corrupt file or profile.
But I also never suspended a laptop with applications running either.

best regards,
Carl


Where are the bug reports?



Regards,

 Matthias


Thank you advance!

Best,
Pedro


Regards
Damjan

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Re: Profile Backup/Restore

[Peter Kovacs]

I think those are the Issues we need to look at:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126869

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126762


Am 28.12.22 um 16:51 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:

Hi all

On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 4:55 PM Matthias Seidel 
wrote:


Hi Pedro,

Am 19.12.22 um 13:39 schrieb Pedro Lino:

Hi all

Is there any extension to Backup/Restore the contents of the User

Profile?

I don't mean copy files but actually exporting and importing the

contents?

If there isn't, is any of the developers on this mailing list interested

in creating one?

I believe this would be a great contribution to all OpenOffice users...

I volunteer to do any testing required!

I think this has been discussed several times in the last years, but
nothing ever happened.

I am a bit concerned that this time you didn't even get a reaction...


It's the festive season, many people aren't reading emails.



Personally, I would prefer an extension (OS independent), but I could
imagine problems with copying/restoring the profile while AOO is still
active.



If profile corruption is such a problem, why don't we fix it?

Where are the bug reports?



Regards,

Matthias


Thank you advance!

Best,
Pedro




Regards
Damjan



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