Re: current OpenOffice Flyers

[Nancy K]

What do you think about adding a QR code to some of the links in the flyer?Free 
QR code generator: https://www.qr-code-generator.com/
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On Monday, October 15, 2018, 5:20:20 PM PDT, Carl Marcum 
 wrote:  
 
 I have an edited English version here:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WtZVmknkM-hE5OwVdCgHSHJ3gnic9Piz

Please review and update as needed.

Thanks,
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Re: [site] Donate via Amazon - update required

[Nancy K]

I see that   is listed twice with two different 
ap-button-(numbers). If I remove the first listing entirely the second 
continues to work on my firefox browser. Removepath;html body div#content 
div.right center div.ap-dw-container.ap-dark div.ap-dw-main 
div#ap-button-795162511.ap-dw-button
  Code:div class="ap-dw-main">Donatehttps://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/EP/offAmazonPayments/us/live/prod/image/donation/gold/medium/LwA.png";>
which leaves the second donation working and displayed larger:
Donatehttps://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/EP/offAmazonPayments/us/live/prod/image/donation/gold/medium/LwA.png";
 style="cursor:pointer;">

I tried to figure out the line number using a validator online - this should be 
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 From: Marcus 
 To: "dev@"  
Cc: Phil Steitz  
 Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:23 AM
 Subject: Re: [site] Donate via Amazon - update required
   
Am 06/27/2015 12:27 AM, schrieb Phil Steitz:
> On 6/26/15 3:00 PM, Marcus wrote:
>> Thanks for your hint.
>>
>> I've tried to update this on our webpage. However, it seems that
>> the ASP webpage uses some more code (CSS and/or JS) that is not
>> included in our page [1].
>>
>> If you have a fast idea how to get this fixed, it would be greatly
>> appreciated. Othwerwise I will simple delete the Amazon part - or
>> the complete webpage, let's see. ;-)
>
> Make sure to include this script reference at the top of the block:
>
>  src="https://static-na.payments-amazon.com/OffAmazonPayments/us/js/Widgets.jshttps://static-na.payments-amazon.com/OffAmazonPayments/us/js/Widgets.js>">
>
> If you just copy the lines starting there and ending with
> data-ap-payment-action="AuthorizeAndCapture"
>    >
> 
>
> from the source in [1] it should work.

OK, it's working now but the UI part is shown double. Only the bottom 
one (the smaller one) is working. Any idea?

[1] http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/donations.html

Thanks

Marcus



>> Am 06/25/2015 08:38 PM, schrieb Phil Steitz:
>>> Hello AOO ppl,
>>>
>>> Amazon has phased out the old "Amazon Simple Pay" that we used
>>> initially to enable donations to the ASF via Amazon.  The html
>>> snippet included on the AOO donate page [1] needs to be updated to
>>> match what is on the main ASF donations page [2].  It looks like the
>>> site is generated by the CMS.  I can try to update it if you all
>>> don't mind that (and the CMS lets me do it); or someone else can do
>>> it.  The new widget takes a little more space and is a little
>>> goofy-looking, so it would probably be best for someone with more UI
>>> skills than me to at least verify it.
>>>
>>> The donations using the old code will start failing soon so we need
>>> to get on this fairly quickly (as in the next couple of weeks).
>>> Sorry I did not give heads up sooner.  I did not realize that you
>>> were maintaining a separate donations page.
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.openoffice.org/donations.html
>>> [2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/contributing.html

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Re: [Discuss] Review and improve graphics memory handling

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  From: Nancy K 
 To: "dev@openoffice.apache.org"  
 Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 4:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [Discuss] Review and improve graphics memory handling
   
I am not sure if this is the same problem, but it might be since it has to do 
with graphics.
I tried to copy/paste (Ctrl V) the list of graphic images describing courses on 
this page onto a blank page in OpenOffice 4.1.1Writer :Best Online Courses | 
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My system: Running Win7 Professional 64 bit Operating SystemIntel Core i5-2400 
CPU 3.1 ghz; 4 GB RAM installed memory
Results after several attempts:1.Each attempt placed the outline boxes and 
links on the blank page in Writer. 2.Then as it tried to catch up placing the 
images into place AOO crashed. 3. Alert notice 'OpenOffice Document Recovery' 
pops up "Due to an unexpected error, OpenOffice crashed. All the files you were 
working on will  now be saved. The next time OpenOffice is launched, your files 
will be recovered automatically. The following files will be recovered: 
Untitled 1"4. Selecting OK gave me two scenarios    a. Non responsive after 
progress bar halfway through    b. Progress bar never started saving5. Closed 
and restarted Writer 6. Open Office Document Recovery failed7.  Clicking 'NEXT' 
to get the Error Report Tool opened up a blank page in Writer
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Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Discuss] Review and improve graphics memory handling





On 05/26/2015 01:19 AM, armin.le.gr...@me.com wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> it should be http://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125519 which is
> fixed and in master, would be a candidate for AOO412, too.
> 
> Sincerely,
> alg

OK. Thanks. This didn't seem to directly relate to just graphic images
(but overall size ) so I didn't find it.

> 
> On 26.05.2015 00:28, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>
>> On 05/25/2015 11:03 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>>> There are constant reports of images going missing in OO Writer.  The
>>> problem is not consistently reproducible, but is there nevertheless.
>>> A recent report suggests it might be memory related:
>>> 
>>>https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=41271&p=353246#p353246
>>>
>>>
>>>  It is also informative to move back along that thread for other
>>> instances of the problem.  I doubt that we can dismiss all
>>> occurrences of this problem as "finger trouble" (i.e., improper user
>>> usage).
>>>
>>> Might it be time to consider increasing the maximum memory allocation
>>> for graphics (currently 256 MB) and to review the memory management
>>> of the suggested compilers?  Also, in case the problem arises from
>>> background processing which has not completed on shut down of OO,
>>> ought a "please wait" flag be displayed, a flag specifically keyed to
>>> any such background process?
>>>
>>> In these days of large memory 256MB is a very small allocation.
>>> Having observed OO's use of memory with large text (not graphics)
>>> files I note that its allocation and consumption of memory is
>>> increasingly slower as the amount of memory used by it increases.  It
>>> is most certainly not linear - I have no accurate method of deciding
>>> if the increase in slowness is geometric or even exponential.
>>>
>> I found John Ha's analyses and comments back from Apr, 2014 very
>> informative. And, his final followup on Jun 7, 2014 certainly indicates
>> the problem stems from exceeding the graphic memory limits.
>>
>> I couldn't find an actual issue that directly related to this so I will
>> enter one, and reference this thread.  Maybe that will help raise
>> attention to it.
> 
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Re: [Discuss] Review and improve graphics memory handling

[Nancy K]

I am not sure if this is the same problem, but it might be since it has to do 
with graphics.
I tried to copy/paste (Ctrl V) the list of graphic images describing courses on 
this page onto a blank page in OpenOffice 4.1.1Writer :Best Online Courses | 
Udemy 
|   |
|   |   |   |   |   |
| Best Online Courses | UdemyUdemy is the world's largest destination for 
online courses. Browse the featured courses on Udemy and start learning a new 
skill today. |
|  |
| View on www.udemy.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |

My system: Running Win7 Professional 64 bit Operating SystemIntel Core i5-2400 
CPU 3.1 ghz; 4 GB RAM installed memory
Results after several attempts:1.Each attempt placed the outline boxes and 
links on the blank page in Writer. 2.Then as it tried to catch up placing the 
images into place AOO crashed. 3. Alert notice 'OpenOffice Document Recovery' 
pops up "Due to an unexpected error, OpenOffice crashed. All the files you were 
working on will  now be saved. The next time OpenOffice is launched, your files 
will be recovered automatically. The following files will be recovered: 
Untitled 1"4. Selecting OK gave me two scenarios    a. Non responsive after 
progress bar halfway through    b. Progress bar never started saving5. Closed 
and restarted Writer 6. Open Office Document Recovery failed7.  Clicking 'NEXT' 
to get the Error Report Tool opened up a blank page in Writer
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Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Discuss] Review and improve graphics memory handling



On 05/26/2015 01:19 AM, armin.le.gr...@me.com wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> it should be http://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125519 which is
> fixed and in master, would be a candidate for AOO412, too.
> 
> Sincerely,
> alg

OK. Thanks. This didn't seem to directly relate to just graphic images
(but overall size ) so I didn't find it.

> 
> On 26.05.2015 00:28, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>
>> On 05/25/2015 11:03 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>>> There are constant reports of images going missing in OO Writer.  The
>>> problem is not consistently reproducible, but is there nevertheless.
>>> A recent report suggests it might be memory related:
>>> 
>>>https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=41271&p=353246#p353246
>>>
>>>
>>>  It is also informative to move back along that thread for other
>>> instances of the problem.  I doubt that we can dismiss all
>>> occurrences of this problem as "finger trouble" (i.e., improper user
>>> usage).
>>>
>>> Might it be time to consider increasing the maximum memory allocation
>>> for graphics (currently 256 MB) and to review the memory management
>>> of the suggested compilers?  Also, in case the problem arises from
>>> background processing which has not completed on shut down of OO,
>>> ought a "please wait" flag be displayed, a flag specifically keyed to
>>> any such background process?
>>>
>>> In these days of large memory 256MB is a very small allocation.
>>> Having observed OO's use of memory with large text (not graphics)
>>> files I note that its allocation and consumption of memory is
>>> increasingly slower as the amount of memory used by it increases.  It
>>> is most certainly not linear - I have no accurate method of deciding
>>> if the increase in slowness is geometric or even exponential.
>>>
>> I found John Ha's analyses and comments back from Apr, 2014 very
>> informative. And, his final followup on Jun 7, 2014 certainly indicates
>> the problem stems from exceeding the graphic memory limits.
>>
>> I couldn't find an actual issue that directly related to this so I will
>> enter one, and reference this thread.  Maybe that will help raise
>> attention to it.
> 
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Re: Two current articles

[Nancy K]

Hi everyone, 
I just wanted to suggest that negative points made in these articles can be 
turned around and made into good public relations by addressing these points as 
separate blog posts. Several positive blog posts linking back to OpenOffice 
would be easier to read than one article addressing too many topics. 
I also noticed comments on these articles describing what people like and that 
is a peek into features some future customers might desire. Maybe that needs to 
be implemented, or maybe not. Maybe a feature people like can be the platform 
to something no one has thought to develop yet. I really believe in open source 
freedom to dream big.
I know that there are marketing volunteers and writing volunteers. At one time 
there was a usability/ui/ux start. Unlike coding jobs that can be done 
independently, what do you think about creating a way to work together on  some 
of the marketing/writing/usability/web design jobs? I can think of one way to 
do this - but I bet you can think of better ways. One beginning idea is to 
devote one page to addressing the facts that need to be presented, the ideas 
that need to be surveyed, the features that are desirable, anything else that 
can be used by the marketing team and the writers to post in blogs. Focusing on 
the things that can be accomplished and the direction that needs to be 
broadcast. I know that having this focused information would help me develop 
the infographics I still would like to create for this project. I would also 
like to work on any html5/css3/seo/web design and usability project and 
brainstorm on any marketing ideas. But I don't know what is needed - what the 
priority is. 
Ever since I started following the development list, I have seen an increase in 
downloads for every version that is developed. I have also seen amazing support 
between the developers. Obviously Apache Open Office developers are doing a lot 
of things right! I think this is a creative, fun and positive group with a lot 
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 From: Pedro Giffuni 
 To: OOo Apache  
 Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 7:05 PM
 Subject: Re: Two current articles
   
Hello;

I just wanted to mention that while it indeed appears that Apache
OpenOffice is over-going a crisis, you can rest assured that in
opensource there is no such thing as death.

We always knew that other projects would take our code and
won't give back, we always knew that there would be a dirty PR
game against us, and to be honest, none of that ever stopped
us from considering the idea of Apache OpenOffice as a TLP in
the ASF and it didn't stop us from doing code that we like.
That obviously hasn't stopped people from downloading the
code either.

To make this absolutely clear: the brand for "Apache OpenOffice"
cannot be assigned to a non-ASF project, it will stay here and we
are not merging with anyone else.

Apache OpenOffice, under an Apache License, will live on as long
as some one finds value in taking the code and use it for whatever
purpose they want. This was what we wanted to do and this is
what is still happening. The liberal licensing has already benefited
other Apache Projects, and that alone was a great reason to have
OpenOffice within the ASF.

This said, there is a crisis, but crisis is actually an opportunity to
change the way things are done. In a project where no one is
getting paid to do anything, crisis doesn't really mean much
of anything.

Concerning the lack of Release Manager, I took the chance to
check the Apache documentation about the role (it appears the
httpd case is as authoritative as it gets):

http://httpd.apache.org/dev/release.html

"The release is coordinated by a Release Manager (hereafter, abbreviated 
as RM). Since this job requires trust, coordination of the development 
community, and access to subversion, only committers to the project can 
be RM. However, there is no set RM, and more than one RM can be active 
at a time. Any committer may create a release candidate, provided that 
it is based on a releasable (non-vetoed) tag of our current subversion 
repository corresponding to the target version number."

Personally I wouldn't have the time to spend on this, and I feel better
writing small pieces of code (I am not as active as I used to but
now we have a new state-of-the-art random number generator
in Calc). I am pretty sure there are capable committers that have
the same time availability issue.

I would suggest that the PMC, as a team, takes over the
Release Management role. Any committer (and the PMC is full of
them) can do the tasks.

IMHO, at this time only reason for making a release is signing
the Windows binaries, so hopefully the task is not too big for
the PMC.

Pedro.




  

Infographic Re: Your stand proposal for Apache OpenOffice has been accepted

[Nancy K]

I would like to try to build an infographic of 15-20 or so Open Office facts in 
Illustrator (there are some other programs that are free with prebuilt icons if 
anyone else wants to try this -  piktochart.com, easel.ly.com and 
infogr.am.com). Is there a place (or do you have any) with fun or interesting 
facts already known that I could use? 
Thanks
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  From: Kay Schenk 
 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org 
 Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 4:14 PM
 Subject: Re: Your stand proposal for Apache OpenOffice has been accepted
   


On 01/12/2015 01:55 PM, Michal Hriň wrote:
> V Pondelok, 12. január 2015 o 22:18 +0100, Marcus napísal(a):
>> Am 01/12/2015 09:06 PM, schrieb Michal Hri:
>>> I had an idea .. What do you think ? :)
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16240171406/
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16265260892/
>>
>> thanks for making the pictures. The English one looks better for me.
>>
>> May I ask for 2 improvements? The sentence with "Liberating ..." should 
>> be a bit lower to get more space betweeen the gulls and text. Currently 
>> it's a bit overlapping. And I would use the word "Freeing" instead of 
>> "Liberating" - except an English native-speaker. ;-)
>>
> 
> Sorry, here
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16266021142/

very nice!

> 
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>>      Dňa pondelok, 12. január 2015 10:50 ,jan i  napísal:
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Monday, January 12, 2015, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
>>>
 On 30/12/2014 jan i wrote:

> On Tuesday, December 30, 2014, RA Stehmann wrote:
>
>> On 29.12.2014 22:11, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>
>>> The important things are:
>>> - decide WHAT to have (pins, roll-up?, other gadgets?); we can take time
>>> in the next few days for this
>>>
>> The roll-up is still existing, but if you want a special one for the "15
>> years" celebrations, it has to be purchased.
>> English flyers are existing, but if you need special ones for the "15
>> years" celebrations, they have to be produced.
>> We have also french and german flyers, but no dutch (and no italian or
>> spanish ones).
>> We have Apache feather stickers, OpenOffice.org lanyards and pins (retro
>> design ;-) ). And we have a few Apache cup warm keepers.
>> Sticker postcards have been running out.
>>
> How about sweat shirts with our logo, the feather and some 15year marker ?
>

 OK, so wrapping this up and since no-one volunteered for design...

 Stuff that we must have (and that we already have the design for) include:
 1) Pins: we already have the design at http://www.openoffice.org/
 marketing/art/galleries/logos/index.html ; can someone suggest a provider
 and take care of this?
 2) OpenOffice stickers: same? Or do we miss the design? I can't find
 anything, and probably the ones I saw still have the old logo.
 3) Apache stickers and possibly other materials: These probably are
 already arranged by Apache and will be delivered by Jan.

 "Nice to have" include (we need someone who designs this, and they will
 have to be dropped unless someone volunteers quickly):
 1) New roll-up with "15 years" design: if a volunteers designs it, we can
 have it too.
 2) New English leaflets with "15 years" design: same
 3) OpenOffice stickers if we need the design.
 4) Sweatshirts: I think it's a very nice idea, again the issue is with
 finding a provider.
>>>
>>> With only 2 weeks to go, I see it a bit unrealistic,  to make design, find
>>> a provider, agree on cost and get it delivered in time, but that is just my
>>> opinion.
>>>

 Budget is not an issue. It looks like the expense will be reasonable. We
 have funds that can cover these expenses.

    we should have the items produced in europe there are plenty of cheap
> places.
>

 Were you thinking about some website/company in particular?
>>>
>>> not anybody that can deliver overnight to a good price, to get the good
>>> prices you typically  need to allow 8-10 days delivery.
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  From: Michal Hriň 
 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org 
 Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 1:55 PM
 Subject: Re: Your stand proposal for Apache OpenOffice has been accepted
   
V Pondelok, 12. január 2015 o 22:18 +0100, Marcus napísal(a):
> Am 01/12/2015 09:06 PM, schrieb Michal Hri:
> > I had an idea .. What do you think ? :)
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16240171406/
> >
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16265260892/
> 
> thanks for making the pictures. The English one looks better for me.
> 
> May I ask for 2 improvements? The sentence with "Liberating ..." should 
> be a bit lower to get more space betweeen the gulls and text. Currently 
> it's a bit overlapping. And I would use the word "Freeing" instead of 
> "Liberating" - except an English native-speaker. ;-)
> 

Sorry, here

https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16266021142/

> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
> >      Dňa pondelok, 12. január 2015 10:50 ,jan i  napísal:
> >
> >
> >  On Monday, January 12, 2015, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> >
> >> On 30/12/2014 jan i wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tuesday, December 30, 2014, RA Stehmann wrote:
> >>>
>  On 29.12.2014 22:11, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> 
> > The important things are:
> > - decide WHAT to have (pins, roll-up?, other gadgets?); we can take time
> > in the next few days for this
> >
>  The roll-up is still existing, but if you want a special one for the "15
>  years" celebrations, it has to be purchased.
>  English flyers are existing, but if you need special ones for the "15
>  years" celebrations, they have to be produced.
>  We have also french and german flyers, but no dutch (and no italian or
>  spanish ones).
>  We have Apache feather stickers, OpenOffice.org lanyards and pins (retro
>  design ;-) ). And we have a few Apache cup warm keepers.
>  Sticker postcards have been running out.
> 
> >>> How about sweat shirts with our logo, the feather and some 15year marker ?
> >>>
> >>
> >> OK, so wrapping this up and since no-one volunteered for design...
> >>
> >> Stuff that we must have (and that we already have the design for) include:
> >> 1) Pins: we already have the design at http://www.openoffice.org/
> >> marketing/art/galleries/logos/index.html ; can someone suggest a provider
> >> and take care of this?
> >> 2) OpenOffice stickers: same? Or do we miss the design? I can't find
> >> anything, and probably the ones I saw still have the old logo.
> >> 3) Apache stickers and possibly other materials: These probably are
> >> already arranged by Apache and will be delivered by Jan.
> >>
> >> "Nice to have" include (we need someone who designs this, and they will
> >> have to be dropped unless someone volunteers quickly):
> >> 1) New roll-up with "15 years" design: if a volunteers designs it, we can
> >> have it too.
> >> 2) New English leaflets with "15 years" design: same
> >> 3) OpenOffice stickers if we need the design.
> >> 4) Sweatshirts: I think it's a very nice idea, again the issue is with
> >> finding a provider.
> >
> > With only 2 weeks to go, I see it a bit unrealistic,  to make design, find
> > a provider, agree on cost and get it delivered in time, but that is just my
> > opinion.
> >
> >>
> >> Budget is not an issue. It looks like the expense will be reasonable. We
> >> have funds that can cover these expenses.
> >>
> >>    we should have the items produced in europe there are plenty of cheap
> >>> places.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Were you thinking about some website/company in particular?
> >
> > not anybody that can deliver overnight to a good price, to get the good
> > prices you typically  need to allow 8-10 days delivery.
> 
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AOO Mention by Clark Howard

[Nancy K]

I wanted to bring to your attention that Clark Howard mentioned OpenOffice as 
an alternative to Microsoft in an article last friday posted on his website 
(link below). Clark Howard hosts a nationally syndicated radio show advocating 
ways for consumers to save money and stick to budgets. A search on his website 
shows he has mentioned and favored OpenOffice in many other articles from the 
past several years adding GoogleDocs when cloud computing began. 

http://www.clarkhoward.com/news/clark-howard/technology/free-microsoft-office-app-ios-and-android/nh3Rd/

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Re: ASF banner ads

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 I don't want to further delay all of your work, just wanted to play with this 
and show you. Look what happens if you add the divider above the event box - 
and push the text over to align with the text below. I just need to get it in 
line with the smaller birds of the right column. I couldn't get the divider 
birds to run across the width at the smaller scale - but it sure adds some 
possibilities. 

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 From: Marcus 
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: ASF banner ads
 

Am 09/12/2014 01:58 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
> Mathias Röllig wrote:
 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/index_asfcon.html
>
> Marcus' latest version looks much nicer than my earlier attempts; maybe
> we can add some text like changing the first line to "ApacheCon Europe
> 2014 - The official Apache conference" to make it clearer for visitors,
> but small fixes can be done at any time.

thanks, done. As long as it is not yet really online more changes are easy.

>> I think
>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/images/*
>> and
>> http://www.openoffice.org/images/*
>> will be merged.
>
> The "Publish" operation of the website makes the copy, indeed.
>
>> I suggest 2014-eu-234x60.png also copy to this directory or it should be
>> linked from there.This bypass the predefined adblock filter.
>
> This is being discusses on the community-dev list, see
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201409.mbox/browser
> but indeed we can use a local copy for both the banner on the home page
> and the one in the footer while the issue is being solved.

Done for the new event box. Will do later for the footer.


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Re: Fw: With links that didn't come through on the 1st message Fw: ASF banner ads

[Nancy K]

Definitely yours is a better solution - and the footer looks great too now that 
I understand! I misunderstood the importance, thanks for correcting this 
because my examples DO take over the page and that is not the impact needed.

 
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 From: Andrea Pescetti 
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org 
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: With links that didn't come through on the 1st message Fw: ASF 
banner ads
 

On 08/09/2014 Kay Schenk wrote:
> On 09/07/2014 05:33 PM, Nancy K wrote:
>> 4. Drop Shadow grey rounded corners  
>> https://www.diigo.com/item/image/bhs8/xgr7

Maybe something like this, but on the right column only? I had tried 
both the main text and the right column back at the time, but all I got 
was similar to what Marcus got, and it is too obtrusive (and it doesn't 
play well with optional elements on the home page, like the "This site 
is also available in Italian" note).

So a solution could be to keep it in the footer across the site, but to 
add a block with image, some text and rounded corners just above the 
"Recent blog posts" on the home page). In short: I was trying to place 
only the image and that didn't work, but wrapped in a div with a short 
text as per your latest proposals it will probably work better.

Remember, there is also a 125x125 image at 
http://www.apache.org/ads/ApacheCon/ if this can help.

> In FF 31.0, the ApacheConEU in the bottom left corner is not showing up
> at all! So thanks for these images, or I wouldn't have known it was
> there at all despite Andrea mentioning it. (yes, I do see it in the
> actual code however.)

Strange. Can some HTTP/HTTPS paranoid security measure get in the way? 
But feel definitely free to copy the image to the main site and server 
our "local" copy instead, in case this solves the problem.

> We normally use the Announcement banner -- the first blue line -- for
> announcements

That will need some rework sooner or later too. That space would be for 
project announcements, while ApacheCon is a foundation-wide event that 
we must surely promote, but not an announcement (I mean, this banner is 
supposed to stay there until ApacheCon, 17-21 November; so it shouldn't 
take over our announcements line).

Regards,



   Andrea.

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Fw: With links that didn't come through on the 1st message Fw: ASF banner ads

[Nancy K]

1. Centered Apachecon https://www.diigo.com/item/image/bhs8/7kqp 
2. Left aligned link https://www.diigo.com/item/image/bhs8/13sy


3. Yellow background rounded corners https://www.diigo.com/item/image/bhs8/ja60

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I was playing with this a bit in Firebug - just to add to the mix. I like the 
'news' of Apachecon above the fold with the thought that it could be an area 
for future meetings and announcements if desired. I am thinking that the bar 
across the width of the page makes it stand apart from the download buttons, 
but what do you think?

Visibility for CSS3 from caniuse.com:
Border radius (rounded corners) http://caniuse.com/#search=rounded corners

IE  9-11 supported;FF 30-35; Chrome 27-40;Safari 5.1-8; Opera 23-26; IOS Safari 
7.1-8;Android Browser 2.3-4.4.3; Chrome for Android 37

Box Shadow http://caniuse.com/#feat=css-boxshadow
IE 9-11; FF 30-35; Chrome 27-40; Safari 5.1-8; Opera 23-26p IOS Safari 7.1-8; 
Android Browser 4-4.4.3 with 2.3 partial support ; Chrome for Android 37

1.Centered announcement https://www.diigo.com/item/image/bhs8/7kqp 


Apache OpenOffice


http://apachecon.com/";>







2. Apachecon image aligned with left column text Apachecon left aligned | Diigo

  
 
Apachecon left aligned | Diigo
Apachecon left aligned Apachecon left aligned Clipped from: 
ooo-site.staging.apache.org/index_asfcon.html   
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Left aligned link https://www.diigo.com/item/image/bhs8/13sy
 

Apache OpenOffice


http://apachecon.com/";>
http://www.apache.org/ads/ApacheCon/2014-eu-234x60.png";>





http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe"; style="color: 
black; text-decoration: none;">
ApacheCon Europe, 2014 


3. Light yellow rounded radius background across page Apachecon light yellow 
bar | Diigo
Link: https://www.diigo.com/item/image/bhs8/ja60
 

  
 
Apachecon light yellow bar | Diigo
Apachecon light yellow bar Apachecon light yellow bar Clipped from: 
ooo-site.staging.apache.org/...index_asfcon.html   
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http://apachecon.com/"; target="_blank">
http://www.apache.org/ads/ApacheCon/2014-eu-234x60.png"; alt="Apache 
Software Foundation">






4. Light grey rounded radius like above - only with a drop shadow
Link: https://www.diigo.com/item/image/bhs8/xgr7 
Apachecon box shadow | Diigo

  
  
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http://www.apache.org/ads/ApacheCon/2014-eu-234x60.png"; alt="Apache 
Software Foundation">





http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe"; style="color: 
black; text-decoration: none;">



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 From: Kay Schenk 
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org 
Sent: Sunday, September 7, 2014 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: ASF banner ads
 



On 09/07/2014 02:56 PM, Marcus wrote:
> Am 09/07/2014 11:34 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>
>>
>> On 09/07/2014 03:45 AM, Marcus wrote:
>>> Am 08/30/2014 05:14 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>> On 25/08/2014 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/ads/
>>>>> The home page is already quite cluttered. But this could fit in the
>>>>>
 footer. We currently have a 203x61 feather on the right hand side
>>>>> in the
>>>>> footer. The logo Apache provides for ApacheCon would be 234x60, so
>>>>> quite
>>>>> similarly sized. We could accommodate it in the footer, to the left.
>>>>
>>>> I tried all the options discussed, but it didn't fit at all in the
&g

Re: ASF banner ads

[Nancy K]

I was playing with this a bit in Firebug - just to add to the mix. I like the 
'news' of Apachecon above the fold with the thought that it could be an area 
for future meetings and announcements if desired. I am thinking that the bar 
across the width of the page makes it stand apart from the download buttons, 
but what do you think?

Visibility for CSS3 from caniuse.com:
Border radius (rounded corners) http://caniuse.com/#search=rounded corners

IE  9-11 supported;FF 30-35; Chrome 27-40;Safari 5.1-8; Opera 23-26; IOS Safari 
7.1-8;Android Browser 2.3-4.4.3; Chrome for Android 37

Box Shadow http://caniuse.com/#feat=css-boxshadow
IE 9-11; FF 30-35; Chrome 27-40; Safari 5.1-8; Opera 23-26p IOS Safari 7.1-8; 
Android Browser 4-4.4.3 with 2.3 partial support ; Chrome for Android 37

1.Centered announcement https://www.diigo.com/item/image/bhs8/7kqp 


Apache OpenOffice


http://apachecon.com/";>







2. Apachecon image aligned with left column text Apachecon left aligned | Diigo

  
 
Apachecon left aligned | Diigo
Apachecon left aligned Apachecon left aligned Clipped from: 
ooo-site.staging.apache.org/index_asfcon.html   
View on www.diigo.com Preview by Yahoo  
  


Apache OpenOffice


http://apachecon.com/";>
http://www.apache.org/ads/ApacheCon/2014-eu-234x60.png";>





http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe"; style="color: 
black; text-decoration: none;">
ApacheCon Europe, 2014 


3. Light yellow rounded radius background across page Apachecon light yellow 
bar | Diigo


  
 
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ooo-site.staging.apache.org/...index_asfcon.html   
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http://www.apache.org/ads/ApacheCon/2014-eu-234x60.png"; alt="Apache 
Software Foundation">






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shadow | Diigo

  
 
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http://apachecon.com/"; target="_blank">
http://www.apache.org/ads/ApacheCon/2014-eu-234x60.png"; alt="Apache 
Software Foundation">





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 From: Kay Schenk 
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org 
Sent: Sunday, September 7, 2014 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: ASF banner ads
 



On 09/07/2014 02:56 PM, Marcus wrote:
> Am 09/07/2014 11:34 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>
>>
>> On 09/07/2014 03:45 AM, Marcus wrote:
>>> Am 08/30/2014 05:14 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
 On 25/08/2014 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> http://www.apache.org/ads/
> The home page is already quite cluttered. But this could fit in the
> footer. We currently have a 203x61 feather on the right hand side
> in the
> footer. The logo Apache provides for ApacheCon would be 234x60, so
> quite
> similarly sized. We could accommodate it in the footer, to the left.

 I tried all the options discussed, but it didn't fit at all in the
 header or in the download page (which in turn is already complex
 enough). So I implemented the above solution, and you'll see it in the
 site footer.

 If anyone can do better, just improve it, no problem. But it's
 important
 to have ApacheCon visible.
>>>
>>> the footer is actually looking good and the graphic fits pretty well
>>> (size and layout).
>>>
>>> However, it's on the bottom and for such temporary and visibility-needed
>>> things not the best location. Therefore I've created 2 test webpapges:
>>>
>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/index_asfcon.html
>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/index_asfcon.html
>>>
>>> Simple layout but it could be aligned more to the general page design.
>>>
>>> What do you all think?
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>
>> On both of these, what I see is that the notice is being partially
>> covered by the blue navigation areas.
>>
>> Generally, I think this notice would be better on the home page than
>> other pages.
>> Any chance we could relocate this to the bottom area maybe between the
>> W3C  button and the end of the right side navigation element?
> 
> I wanted to bring the attention to the top - away from the bottom.

I'm just wondering if the top is too busy already for this addition.

> 
> Sure, it would be possible to put it there. Do you still see an
> advantage to have it a few pixels higher than instead of leaving it in
> the footer?

I would need to see both versions before I could answer this I think. :/

Also, maybe see (random, I didn't look at all sites):
http://libcloud.apache.org/
http://maven.apache.org/

Re: First look at www.openoffice.org accesibility

[Nancy K]

I don't know if any of these links will help - 

Invisible content just for screen reader users:
http://webaim.org/techniques/css/invisiblecontent/#techniques

Cynthia Says for Section 508/WCAG2.0 (A thru AAA) accessibility (enter the url 
online):
http://www.cynthiasays.com/?

Colorblind tests (enter url online):
http://colorfilter.wickline.org/

html5 validator: 
html5.validator.nu


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 From: Rob Weir 
To: "dev@openoffice.apache.org"  
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: First look at www.openoffice.org accesibility
 

On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:

>
>
> In the meantime it's already online on www.oo.o. I've added a h1 tag and
> fixed the double-link problem.
>
> @Rob:
> Please can you test if this is now OK in the screen reader?
>
> Thanks
>
>

Here's the tool I used to check:

http://wave.webaim.org

The duplicate links problem is gone.  That's good news.

The error about the missing  is gone.  But now it gives an error
for the  with no content.

I wonder whether the "real" solution here is to make those main
options into 's and update the CSS accordingly?  If we use a
specific class for those headers we won't conflict with the 's on
other pages, which are styled differently.

The only other error we have on the home page (and the other templated
pages) is the lack of the language identifier, and it sounds like Dave
had a good solution there.

Regards,

-RobboR


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Re: Looking forward to 250 million users

[Nancy K]

I want to throw out an idea that might bring in new users. The open source 
android market and dependence on mobile technology are quickly increasing in 
the number of users. Why not have a mobile version Open Office suite ready for 
all android devices? I can't help but think of all of the PC's that are bought 
with MS programs already installed - and the people that are less technically 
inclined never change browsers or programs - especially if it will cost money 
to upgrade. If a device is produced with OpenOffice already in place, 
especially if it is optimized for mobile users - I think that would certainly 
introduce this software to a growing audience.

I am trying to think of ways that Open Office could be more mobile, and so far:
1. Voice to text could be utilized
2. Cloud storage for easier access between devices including mobile to PC
3. Slick interface that is easy to read, not a tiny version of the desktop 
format - but designed specifically for mobile usability

I started researching what android office suites are being used and came across 
a 2013 article by PC Magazine 
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2419589,00.asp
The 5 best android office suites they mention do not look that great - except 
maybe polaris office (the first example on their slide show: 
http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow_viewer/0,3253,l=311949&a=311948&po=1,00.asp )

I also came across AlwaysOnPC that does use OpenOffice 
http://www.alwaysonpc.com/aboutOpenOffice.php

The more I research, I see that all of the above are in place, just not all of 
them easily found without research and many in more than one 3rd party product 
not tied together - which most people will not do unless they are looking for a 
specific answer to a problem. Does this seem like a productive direction? I am 
still thinking about ways to help Open Office grow, and this was my first 
thought.


Nancy



 
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 From: Rob Weir 
To: "dev@openoffice.apache.org"  
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: Looking forward to 250 million users
 

On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Hagar Delest  wrote:
> Le 11/01/2014 15:37, Guy Waterval a écrit :
>
>> The downloads do not necessarily correspond to real users, as you said
>> before if I good remember, but it's a good indicator.
>> We should penetrate deeper into the Windows world, I have always the
>> impression that we are too much in the pool of former users of
>> OpenOffice.org.
>
> +1.
> Each time we upgrade, it's a new download but it doesn’t mean that there is
> a new user.
> Same when I upgrade my xubuntu distro: sometimes I don't download AOO again
> and sometime I download again the debs.
>

I wouldn't focus too much on the counting methodology, which is
imperfect.  Think of the question as:  How do we triple the number of
users of AOO?

On my blog last year [1] I discussed a model of market share based on
three factors:

1) Customer awareness == what % of the target market knows about your product

2) Customer motivation == what % of people who have hard of your
product have tried it

3) Customer satisfaction == what % of users who tried your product
continue to use it.

Market share is the product of these three factors.  Some needs to
hear of OpenOffice, try OpenOffice and continue using OpenOffice
before they are really a "user".

In the blog post I discussed one approach to estimating these factors
and came up with the following for OpenOffice:

Awareness = 30.7%

Motivation = 67.4%

Satisfaction = 77.8%

Given those figures I'd expect the greatest growth would come from
increasing awareness.  If fully 70% of internet users have not even
heard of OpenOffice, then that is our biggest opportunity for growth.
We could triple the number of users, if we tripled the number of users
who are aware of it.

Note:  I bet the most savvy computer users are already aware of
OpenOffice.  We need to reach out to the masses who know very little
about open source, people very unlike ourselves.  That's what makes
this challenging:  marketing to people not like us., supporting them,
writing documentation for them, and ultimately designing software for
them.

Regards,

-Rob


[1] 
http://www.robweir.com/blog/2013/10/the-power-of-brand-and-the-power-of-product-part-3.html

>
>
>> I think a solution would be to push the portable version, but
>> preconfigured
>> with templates and cliparts and some extensions preinstalled to avoid that
>> the user is confronted too fast with configurations issues.
>> Why not a portable version by language entirely preconfigured with
>> templates and cliparts that could be distributed on customized USB keys by
>> companies to their clients ? Everybody could have an office suite  ready
>> to
>> use on his/her USB key, lipstick tube, pocket knife, etc.  People could
>> use
>> their own free office suite on almost any compute