Re: [Vote] What should we do with the Why Compliance? page on the website
On 19/02/15 20:57, Rob Weir wrote: The page in question is here: http://www.openoffice.org/why/why_compliance.html Voting choices are: [ ] Leave the page as it is. [X] Make changes in that text parts where the facts are wrong or the tone does not fit or ASF rules were broken. [ ] Delete the entire page. Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: [Vote] What should we do with the Why Compliance? page on the website
-Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:r...@robweir.com] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:58 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: [Vote] What should we do with the Why Compliance? page on the website The page in question is here: http://www.openoffice.org/why/why_compliance.html Voting choices are: [ ] Leave the page as it is. [ ] Make changes in that text parts where the facts are wrong or the tone does not fit or ASF rules were broken. [X] Delete the entire page. The vote will last for 72-hours. All are welcome to vote. PMC votes are binding. Please put comments into the parallel [VOTE][DISCUSS] thread. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Vote] What should we do with the Why Compliance? page on the website
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote: The page in question is here: http://www.openoffice.org/why/why_compliance.html Voting choices are: [ ] Leave the page as it is. [X ] Make changes in that text parts where the facts are wrong or the tone does not fit or ASF rules were broken. [ ] Delete the entire page. The vote will last for 72-hours. All are welcome to vote. PMC votes are binding. Please put comments into the parallel [VOTE][DISCUSS] thread. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Vote] What should we do with the Why Compliance? page on the website
[X] Make changes in that text parts where the facts are wrong or the tone does not fit or ASF rules were broken. Marcus Am 02/19/2015 08:57 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: The page in question is here: http://www.openoffice.org/why/why_compliance.html Voting choices are: [ ] Leave the page as it is. [ ] Make changes in that text parts where the facts are wrong or the tone does not fit or ASF rules were broken. [ ] Delete the entire page. The vote will last for 72-hours. All are welcome to vote. PMC votes are binding. Please put comments into the parallel [VOTE][DISCUSS] thread. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Vote] What should we do with the Why Compliance? page on the website
Rob Weir wrote: The page in question is here: http://www.openoffice.org/why/why_compliance.html Voting choices are: [ ] Leave the page as it is. [ ] Make changes in that text parts where the facts are wrong or the tone does not fit or ASF rules were broken. [ ] Delete the entire page. The vote will last for 72-hours. All are welcome to vote. PMC votes are binding. Please put comments into the parallel [VOTE][DISCUSS] thread. [ ] Leave the page as it is. [X] Make changes in that text parts where the facts are wrong or the tone does not fit or ASF rules were broken. [ ] Delete the entire page. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [Vote] What should we do with the Why Compliance? page on the website
On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I favor the option proposed by Tim Williams. I think a good interim maneuver is to remove the sidebar link and then we can fuss about the page ad lib. I haven't checked on the notice that Marcus put up just yet. If that stays, it needs to ripple through the translations too. I too favor the option proposed by Tim If I have to cast a ballot on the [VOTE] as worded, it will be for deletion. I strongly believe voting is doing more damage than good. but given the choices, I would have to VOTE +1 for deleting the page. but please sleep on it, cancel the vote tomorrow, and make a wording together with Andrea that the PMC (this includes Jim and yourself) are happy with. rgds jan i - Dennis -Original Message- From: Tim Williams [mailto:william...@gmail.com javascript:;] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 09:53 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org javascript:; Subject: Re: Proposal to change or remove a web page that seems to cause unfruitful discussions. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:44 PM, jan i j...@apache.org javascript:; wrote: [ ... ] I simply do not see the need that AOO goes out alone, on confrontation course with ASF, to explain the difference in licenses seen specifically for our pow. We do not need this kind of pointing fingers. Let other projects use the license they believe in and let us use the license ASF believe in without telling we are better or even different than the others. fwiw, as a lurker here, that approach is much more consistent with the broader culture around here. Leave the provocative stuff to personal blogs and media. I think a good solution is to just delete the page and add a link to the faq[1] to your existing 'free' page[2] - I just don't see any value beyond what's already written between those two. Thanks, --tim [1] - http://www.apache.org/foundation/license-faq.html#WhatDoesItMEAN [2] - http://www.openoffice.org/why/why_free.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org javascript:; - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org javascript:; -- Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
Re: [Vote] What should we do with the Why Compliance? page on the website
On Feb 19, 2015, at 2:28 PM, jan i wrote: On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I favor the option proposed by Tim Williams. I think a good interim maneuver is to remove the sidebar link and then we can fuss about the page ad lib. I haven't checked on the notice that Marcus put up just yet. If that stays, it needs to ripple through the translations too. I too favor the option proposed by Tim If I have to cast a ballot on the [VOTE] as worded, it will be for deletion. I strongly believe voting is doing more damage than good. but given the choices, I would have to VOTE +1 for deleting the page. but please sleep on it, cancel the vote tomorrow, and make a wording together with Andrea that the PMC (this includes Jim and yourself) are happy with. +101 Regards, Dave rgds jan i - Dennis -Original Message- From: Tim Williams [mailto:william...@gmail.com javascript:;] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 09:53 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org javascript:; Subject: Re: Proposal to change or remove a web page that seems to cause unfruitful discussions. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:44 PM, jan i j...@apache.org javascript:; wrote: [ ... ] I simply do not see the need that AOO goes out alone, on confrontation course with ASF, to explain the difference in licenses seen specifically for our pow. We do not need this kind of pointing fingers. Let other projects use the license they believe in and let us use the license ASF believe in without telling we are better or even different than the others. fwiw, as a lurker here, that approach is much more consistent with the broader culture around here. Leave the provocative stuff to personal blogs and media. I think a good solution is to just delete the page and add a link to the faq[1] to your existing 'free' page[2] - I just don't see any value beyond what's already written between those two. Thanks, --tim [1] - http://www.apache.org/foundation/license-faq.html#WhatDoesItMEAN [2] - http://www.openoffice.org/why/why_free.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org javascript:; - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org javascript:; -- Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Vote] What should we do with the Why Compliance? page on the website
On 02/19/2015 11:57 AM, Rob Weir wrote: The page in question is here: http://www.openoffice.org/why/why_compliance.html Voting choices are: [ ] Leave the page as it is. [ ] Make changes in that text parts where the facts are wrong or the tone does not fit or ASF rules were broken. [ ] Delete the entire page. The vote will last for 72-hours. All are welcome to vote. PMC votes are binding. Please put comments into the parallel [VOTE][DISCUSS] thread. [ X] Make changes in that text parts where the facts are wrong or the tone does not fit or ASF rules were broken. -- - MzK An old horse for a long, hard road, a young pony for a quick ride. -- Texas Bix Bender - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Vote] What should we do with the Why Compliance? page on the website
Forgive my slipping a discussion on the vote thread with my +101. I have thought about things and I am going to cast the following vote: [X] delete the page. Why? It does not help the overall OpenOffice community to be making a strong argument over this issue at this point in time. it does not help to be parsing and discussing a range of possible language. In addition for end users it is FOSS regardless. This is the openoffice.org site. If we want nuance we can put it on the project site in a single language. Regards, Dave On Feb 19, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Feb 19, 2015, at 2:28 PM, jan i wrote: On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I favor the option proposed by Tim Williams. I think a good interim maneuver is to remove the sidebar link and then we can fuss about the page ad lib. I haven't checked on the notice that Marcus put up just yet. If that stays, it needs to ripple through the translations too. I too favor the option proposed by Tim If I have to cast a ballot on the [VOTE] as worded, it will be for deletion. I strongly believe voting is doing more damage than good. but given the choices, I would have to VOTE +1 for deleting the page. but please sleep on it, cancel the vote tomorrow, and make a wording together with Andrea that the PMC (this includes Jim and yourself) are happy with. +101 Regards, Dave rgds jan i - Dennis -Original Message- From: Tim Williams [mailto:william...@gmail.com javascript:;] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 09:53 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org javascript:; Subject: Re: Proposal to change or remove a web page that seems to cause unfruitful discussions. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:44 PM, jan i j...@apache.org javascript:; wrote: [ ... ] I simply do not see the need that AOO goes out alone, on confrontation course with ASF, to explain the difference in licenses seen specifically for our pow. We do not need this kind of pointing fingers. Let other projects use the license they believe in and let us use the license ASF believe in without telling we are better or even different than the others. fwiw, as a lurker here, that approach is much more consistent with the broader culture around here. Leave the provocative stuff to personal blogs and media. I think a good solution is to just delete the page and add a link to the faq[1] to your existing 'free' page[2] - I just don't see any value beyond what's already written between those two. Thanks, --tim [1] - http://www.apache.org/foundation/license-faq.html#WhatDoesItMEAN [2] - http://www.openoffice.org/why/why_free.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org javascript:; - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org javascript:; -- Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
