RE: Spellcheck and backup problems [was: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

I want to re-emphasize that there is a difference between creating a backup
and performing automatic periodic backups (which for speed, are often into
an auto-backup/-recovery format somewhere).

We need to dig into this and also not that, usually, creating a backup is
trivial and easy to tell when it fails (since it is typically by renaming
the original once it is clear that the loaded original is being edited if
not sooner).  This can also allow locking to be handled better.

Meanwhile, I am heartened by the excitement that is arising around these
particularly-nasty usability issues.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 09:00
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Spellcheck and backup problems [was: Complaint Writer lost 36
> pages of my document with no auto backup copy.
> 
> I have retitled this thread as it has developed to reflect more general
> OO problems, arising from a user difficulty.
> 
> One matter we are discussing is backup.  the "automatic backup" link is
> disabled by default.  This may have been logical in days when disk space
> was limited, but with modern giga/terabyte drives  that no longer seems
> a valid consideration.
> 
> Blue sky thinking: Subversion/SVN backup is an Apache project.  Would it
> be possible to make future OO releases use this for backup.  On
> installation, OO could probe for an existing SVN setup and chain into
> that if found.  If not, it could cause an automatic installation of a
> reduced mode/private SVN installation, which would maintain backups of
> previous versions of the OO data files in use.  (I have used SVN but at
> an elementary level - as used in University of Bremen's
> AuthorSupportTool project with which I am fiddling, so my suggestion
> here may be utterly unreasonable).
> 
> --
> Rory O'Farrell 
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Spellcheck and backup problems [was: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

[Rory O'Farrell]

I have retitled this thread as it has developed to reflect more general OO 
problems, arising from a user difficulty.

One matter we are discussing is backup.  the "automatic backup" link is 
disabled by default.  This may have been logical in days when disk space was 
limited, but with modern giga/terabyte drives  that no longer seems a valid 
consideration.

Blue sky thinking: Subversion/SVN backup is an Apache project.  Would it be 
possible to make future OO releases use this for backup.  On installation, OO 
could probe for an existing SVN setup and chain into that if found.  If not, it 
could cause an automatic installation of a reduced mode/private SVN 
installation, which would maintain backups of previous versions of the OO data 
files in use.  (I have used SVN but at an elementary level - as used in 
University of Bremen's AuthorSupportTool project with which I am fiddling, so 
my suggestion here may be utterly unreasonable).

-- 
Rory O'Farrell 

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Re: Spellcheck and backup problems [was: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

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On 30/12/2015 16:59, Rory O'Farrell wrote:

> If not, it could cause an automatic installation of a reduced mode/pri
vate SVN installation, which would maintain backups of previous versions
 of the OO data files in use.

My suggestion would be to add that functionality to OOSVN.
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/ooosvn.

For most use-cases, I'm not convinced that SVN is an appropriate
standard backup.  What I am convinced of, is that configuring, and using
SVN is beyond the skill set of the majority of AOO users.

jonathon
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