Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 24/11/2017 Patricia Shanahan wrote:

To answer Damjan's question "when are these 4.1.x releases going to
stop?", we need to continue with 4.1.x builds, and releases as needed,
at least until 4.2.0 development is complete.


This is correct but it misses a (probably taken for granted) detail: the 
focus is only on 4.2.0.


Future 4.1.x releases may happen only if we need to fix regressions or 
need to push a security fix. But no feature or "normal" bugfix work 
should happen on 4.1.x any longer.


If we agree on this, then we are probably all on the same page as for 
the roles of 4.1.x and 4.2.0.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-24 Thread Patricia Shanahan



On 11/24/2017 8:23 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:



On Nov 23, 2017, at 6:06 PM, Larry Gusaas  wrote:


There are serious regressions in 4.1.4 for Macs. The fix needs to be released 
now, not wait until 4.2.0



And at least 1 fix that address all platforms as well, so I do think a 4.1.5 
will
be required.

Also, as mentioned on a different thread, the move from 4.1.x to 4.2.x
will mean that some older platforms will likely need to be dropped
and/or deprecated. For example, CentOS 5 lacks GIO-2.0, which means
that it is no longer, afaict, a candidate for our community build server
setup (which is what 4.0 and 4.1 were built on). Also, OS X 10.7
will likely need to be deprecated for 4.2.0.

The long and short is that there are, and possible will be,
some AOO users that cannot move to 4.2.0 and so we should
make sure that our "final" 4.1.x build is as good and solid and as
stable as we can make it.


To answer Damjan's question "when are these 4.1.x releases going to 
stop?", we need to continue with 4.1.x builds, and releases as needed, 
at least until 4.2.0 development is complete.


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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-24 Thread Jim Jagielski

> On Nov 23, 2017, at 6:06 PM, Larry Gusaas  wrote:
> 
> 
> There are serious regressions in 4.1.4 for Macs. The fix needs to be released 
> now, not wait until 4.2.0
> 

And at least 1 fix that address all platforms as well, so I do think a 4.1.5 
will
be required.

Also, as mentioned on a different thread, the move from 4.1.x to 4.2.x
will mean that some older platforms will likely need to be dropped
and/or deprecated. For example, CentOS 5 lacks GIO-2.0, which means
that it is no longer, afaict, a candidate for our community build server
setup (which is what 4.0 and 4.1 were built on). Also, OS X 10.7
will likely need to be deprecated for 4.2.0.

The long and short is that there are, and possible will be,
some AOO users that cannot move to 4.2.0 and so we should
make sure that our "final" 4.1.x build is as good and solid and as
stable as we can make it.
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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-23 Thread Pedro Lino

> Let's test! ;-)
> 


It's a bit difficult since neither the OP nor joesch describe the steps to test 
DDE in https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127601

However if the idea is to load dde-test.odt and then Update the values so that 
the values in odt reflect a change in the ods, then I do not get a crash but 
the values are never updated under Windows 10 (see attached image).

In fact these values are not updated regardless of the AOO or LO version used 
under Windows 10...

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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-23 Thread Larry Gusaas



On 2017-11-23, 4:36 PM Kay Schenk wrote:

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:


We have regressions in 4.1.4. Until we get a fix out in either 4.2.0 or
4.1.5 we will continue to get bug reports. These will distract our
volunteers and impact our users.

We owe it to our users to be quick.

Regarding 4.2.0. What are the new features and is everything being worked
into trunk complete? If we were to decide to release it “quickly” what
needs to be done?


​I was happy that I could build 4.2 recently on Linux-32 without issue! WOO
HOO!

Re "new" features...there is quite a backlog of translations, including
items in the Help section that are now about 3 years in arrears until 4.2.0
is out. Likely many other improvements including the recent DB access
glitch that Damjen fixed. Timewise, I think there is a bit more to do for
4.2.0 but probably not much.

Like others, I'd like to see AOO move on to 4.2.0 rather than 4.1.5.


There are serious regressions in 4.1.4 for Macs. The fix needs to be released now, not wait 
until 4.2.0




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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-23 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

> We have regressions in 4.1.4. Until we get a fix out in either 4.2.0 or
> 4.1.5 we will continue to get bug reports. These will distract our
> volunteers and impact our users.
>
> We owe it to our users to be quick.
>
> Regarding 4.2.0. What are the new features and is everything being worked
> into trunk complete? If we were to decide to release it “quickly” what
> needs to be done?
>

​I was happy that I could build 4.2 recently on Linux-32 without issue! WOO
HOO!

Re "new" features...there is quite a backlog of translations, including
items in the Help section that are now about 3 years in arrears until 4.2.0
is out. Likely many other improvements including the recent DB access
glitch that Damjen fixed. Timewise, I think there is a bit more to do for
4.2.0 but probably not much.

Like others, I'd like to see AOO move on to 4.2.0 rather than 4.1.5.

​


>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:34 AM, Peter kovacs  wrote:
> >
> > I think to use 4.2.0 directly is causing less regression then to
> backport  a subset of fixes on the 4.1.x tree and then test for regressions.
> >
> > If the fix is indeed successfull with the build changes, we should
> release the new build, and go on.
> >
> >
> > Am 22. November 2017 13:05:14 MEZ schrieb Patricia Shanahan <
> p...@acm.org>:
> >> I see 4.1.5-dev as a device for testing whether a bug is due to a
> >> specific problem. That change is already checked in to the trunk.
> >>
> >> We still have to decide whether to go straight to 4.2.0. The upside is,
> >>
> >> as Damjam points out, that we need to get the general benefits of 4.2
> >> out in the field. The downside is that, because of more changes, 4.2.0
> >> has a higher risk of regression. Should 4.2.0 go through field
> >> beta-testing?
> >>
> >> Going to 4.2.0 would simplify my activities. Because of better debug
> >> building and on general principles, I do my debug and fixing in trunk.
> >> I
> >> then have to back port the fixes to the 4.1.x line.
> >>
> >> On 11/22/2017 2:37 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:
> >>> Thank you, but when are these 4.1.x releases going to stop?
> >>>
> >>> We have so much lined up for 4.2.0.
> >>>
> >>> Damjan
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Jim Jagielski 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
>  I have both macOS and Linux-64bit builds of 4.1.5-dev (HEAD on the
>  AOO415 branch) available for fun and games (and testing) at:
> 
>  http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
> 
>  I've built all langs but have just uploaded: de, en-US, es, fr
>  and ja (for now). Let me know if people want/need others
>  uploaded.
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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-23 Thread Matthias Seidel
Great!

Additionally I switched our Windows buildbot to branch 415:
https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/win41x/

My personal builds are still available here:
https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-415-Dev/

Let's test! ;-)


Am 23.11.2017 um 04:26 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> And in honor of the (US) Holiday, I am uploading to
>
> http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
>
> Windows builds for 4.1.5 (just the subset of langs).
>
> This not only allows for tests of 4.1.5 for Windows users
> but also that my Windows build setup is (finally) viable!
>
> Cheers!
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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-23 Thread Marcus

Am 23.11.2017 um 04:26 schrieb Jim Jagielski:

And in honor of the (US) Holiday, I am uploading to

 http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/

Windows builds for 4.1.5 (just the subset of langs).

This not only allows for tests of 4.1.5 for Windows users
but also that my Windows build setup is (finally) viable!


great to have another Windows builder here.

Happy holidays. :-)

Marcus


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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-22 Thread Jim Jagielski
And in honor of the (US) Holiday, I am uploading to

http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/

Windows builds for 4.1.5 (just the subset of langs).

This not only allows for tests of 4.1.5 for Windows users
but also that my Windows build setup is (finally) viable!

Cheers!

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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-22 Thread Marcus

Am 22.11.2017 um 21:00 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
I don't think we should wait for more development before releasing fixes 
for the 4.1.4 regressions. If 4.2.0 needs another month or so of 
development, I'm in favor of releasing 4.1.5 as soon as we can get the 
various bug reports checked against it.


we have already 3 reports with some higher impacts (at least thats what 
I've seen so far) that results in some "difficulties" from 4.1.4. IMHO 
it would not be good to say we will fix them with 4.2.0 when it's not 
sure when it will be ready.


On a side note, for those living outside the US, tomorrow is the US 
Thanksgiving Day. It starts what is, for many people, a four day 
weekend. Even today, some of us are involved in preparations - I need to 
arrange furniture to seat 14 for dinner tomorrow. Do not expect too much 
US open source involvement for a few days.


Thanks for this side note. Enjoy your (offline) time and have fun with 
your family.


Happy Thanksgiving :-)

Marcus




On 11/22/2017 9:36 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 6:48 PM, Dave Fisher  
wrote:




Regarding 4.2.0. What are the new features and is everything being 
worked

into trunk complete? If we were to decide to release it “quickly” what
needs to be done?



I don't recommend releasing 4.2.0 immediately; maybe in a month or 2 
after

my PostgreSQL driver and several other outstanding projects are complete.

I'll give you a summary of my own changes in trunk for the past year 
or so;
it's been a quiet year compared to the 2 years before it, and I've 
made at

least 365 total commits to trunk since AOO was an incubator project. You
can see why I want the improvements to get out there and people to use 
them:


Database connections through ODBC don't crash on 64 bit.
oowintool detects Java 8, and finds VC++ on Cygwin64.
Fixes for several fvt tests; they now pass.
Newer versions of JUnit work with Hamcrest for subsequent tests.
Database connections using JDBC now use the new driver rewritten in Java,
with tons of bug fixes and high reliability (Java doesn't corrupt memory,
reports exceptions instead of crashing).
New driver for the PostgreSQL database, supporting the advanced features
like relationships, views, keys, constraints, etc. (Development ongoing)
Buggy DXF files no longer crash AOO.
Various dependency improvements, eg. cairo and pixman are downloaded if
enabled and and system libraries aren't used.
Drop a dependency on ORbit which was last needed in 2003.
GIO instead of GnomeVFS (deprecated 9 years ago) is now the default 
backend

on GTK-based desktops.
Java's ComponentBase base class for UNO components now has 
isDisposed() and

checkDisposed() methods.
ComponentBase locking on disposal fix.
Require Apache Commons Lang for the build.
#i32546# - Java UnoRuntime.getUniqueKey/generateOid do not work reliably
Remove some incorrect API documentation for the
com.sun.star.sdbc.SQLException ErrorCode field.
We need the system Apache Commons Lang to be version 3.x.
Write a main/ant.properties file from main/set_soenv, which can be 
used in

Ant projects to work out settings, locations, and paths to dependencies
without getting them from a parent build tool (dmake/gbuild), which 
allows
Ant projects to build by themselves,  independently of AOO, and allows 
them

to be cleanly opened in (at least) Eclipse.
Remove the obsolete KDE address book SDBC driver, that only worked on KDE
3.2 - 3.6, which are obsolete since 9 years ago.
Update AnyConverter.toObject() to use Java 1.5+'s generics.
If called on an empty collection, don't let
OEnumerationByIndex.nextElement() call XIndexAccess.getByIndex() with an
invalid index, just like OEnumerationByName.nextElement() doesn't.
Fix some comment typos in javaunohelper's PropertySet.java,
Update javaunohelper's MultiTypeInterfaceContainer.java to use generics,
and fix performance bugs in getContainer() where O(n) iteration over all
keys was being done instead of an O(1) map.get(), and in
getContainedTypes() where iteration over keys and then n calls to 
map.get()

for the value was being done instead of iteration over entries.
Java boxing optimization and cleanups for l10ntools.
Use more efficient Java boxing in main/filter.
Use more efficient Java boxing for basic types in main/bean.
Add some Java performance optimizations with boxing of basic types: 
instead
of using "new ()", use .valueOf(), or better 
yet,

rely on autoboxing.
Add initial support for building AOO with Clang on Linux.
We need to pass "-DEBUG" to the linker on Windows for debugging to work.
When debug symbols are produced for C / C++ / Objective C, produce 
them for

Java too.
Add debug symbols to gbuild modules when any of --enable-debug,
--enable-symbols, or --enable-crashdump are passed to ./configure (just
like it already is for dmake modules), as opposed to the previous 
behaviour

of only doing it on --enable-debug.
Fix a FreeBSD regression in the gbuild gb_CPUDEFS variable 

Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-22 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I don't think we should wait for more development before releasing fixes 
for the 4.1.4 regressions. If 4.2.0 needs another month or so of 
development, I'm in favor of releasing 4.1.5 as soon as we can get the 
various bug reports checked against it.


On a side note, for those living outside the US, tomorrow is the US 
Thanksgiving Day. It starts what is, for many people, a four day 
weekend. Even today, some of us are involved in preparations - I need to 
arrange furniture to seat 14 for dinner tomorrow. Do not expect too much 
US open source involvement for a few days.


On 11/22/2017 9:36 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 6:48 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:



Regarding 4.2.0. What are the new features and is everything being worked
into trunk complete? If we were to decide to release it “quickly” what
needs to be done?



I don't recommend releasing 4.2.0 immediately; maybe in a month or 2 after
my PostgreSQL driver and several other outstanding projects are complete.

I'll give you a summary of my own changes in trunk for the past year or so;
it's been a quiet year compared to the 2 years before it, and I've made at
least 365 total commits to trunk since AOO was an incubator project. You
can see why I want the improvements to get out there and people to use them:

Database connections through ODBC don't crash on 64 bit.
oowintool detects Java 8, and finds VC++ on Cygwin64.
Fixes for several fvt tests; they now pass.
Newer versions of JUnit work with Hamcrest for subsequent tests.
Database connections using JDBC now use the new driver rewritten in Java,
with tons of bug fixes and high reliability (Java doesn't corrupt memory,
reports exceptions instead of crashing).
New driver for the PostgreSQL database, supporting the advanced features
like relationships, views, keys, constraints, etc. (Development ongoing)
Buggy DXF files no longer crash AOO.
Various dependency improvements, eg. cairo and pixman are downloaded if
enabled and and system libraries aren't used.
Drop a dependency on ORbit which was last needed in 2003.
GIO instead of GnomeVFS (deprecated 9 years ago) is now the default backend
on GTK-based desktops.
Java's ComponentBase base class for UNO components now has isDisposed() and
checkDisposed() methods.
ComponentBase locking on disposal fix.
Require Apache Commons Lang for the build.
#i32546# - Java UnoRuntime.getUniqueKey/generateOid do not work reliably
Remove some incorrect API documentation for the
com.sun.star.sdbc.SQLException ErrorCode field.
We need the system Apache Commons Lang to be version 3.x.
Write a main/ant.properties file from main/set_soenv, which can be used in
Ant projects to work out settings, locations, and paths to dependencies
without getting them from a parent build tool (dmake/gbuild), which allows
Ant projects to build by themselves,  independently of AOO, and allows them
to be cleanly opened in (at least) Eclipse.
Remove the obsolete KDE address book SDBC driver, that only worked on KDE
3.2 - 3.6, which are obsolete since 9 years ago.
Update AnyConverter.toObject() to use Java 1.5+'s generics.
If called on an empty collection, don't let
OEnumerationByIndex.nextElement() call XIndexAccess.getByIndex() with an
invalid index, just like OEnumerationByName.nextElement() doesn't.
Fix some comment typos in javaunohelper's PropertySet.java,
Update javaunohelper's MultiTypeInterfaceContainer.java to use generics,
and fix performance bugs in getContainer() where O(n) iteration over all
keys was being done instead of an O(1) map.get(), and in
getContainedTypes() where iteration over keys and then n calls to map.get()
for the value was being done instead of iteration over entries.
Java boxing optimization and cleanups for l10ntools.
Use more efficient Java boxing in main/filter.
Use more efficient Java boxing for basic types in main/bean.
Add some Java performance optimizations with boxing of basic types: instead
of using "new ()", use .valueOf(), or better yet,
rely on autoboxing.
Add initial support for building AOO with Clang on Linux.
We need to pass "-DEBUG" to the linker on Windows for debugging to work.
When debug symbols are produced for C / C++ / Objective C, produce them for
Java too.
Add debug symbols to gbuild modules when any of --enable-debug,
--enable-symbols, or --enable-crashdump are passed to ./configure (just
like it already is for dmake modules), as opposed to the previous behaviour
of only doing it on --enable-debug.
Fix a FreeBSD regression in the gbuild gb_CPUDEFS variable caused by
r1773166, where it was always set to POWERPC64 due to a swapped if-else.
Don't use the "archive" package format, which is to be extrated by
smoketest as a side effect, for the subsequent tests. The smoketest is
currently broken and won't do that, and the path is wrong anyway. Instead,
use the office instance from the "installed" package format for subsequent
tests, as it doesn't have to zipped up and unzipped, resulting in faster

Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-22 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 6:48 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

>
> Regarding 4.2.0. What are the new features and is everything being worked
> into trunk complete? If we were to decide to release it “quickly” what
> needs to be done?
>

I don't recommend releasing 4.2.0 immediately; maybe in a month or 2 after
my PostgreSQL driver and several other outstanding projects are complete.

I'll give you a summary of my own changes in trunk for the past year or so;
it's been a quiet year compared to the 2 years before it, and I've made at
least 365 total commits to trunk since AOO was an incubator project. You
can see why I want the improvements to get out there and people to use them:

Database connections through ODBC don't crash on 64 bit.
oowintool detects Java 8, and finds VC++ on Cygwin64.
Fixes for several fvt tests; they now pass.
Newer versions of JUnit work with Hamcrest for subsequent tests.
Database connections using JDBC now use the new driver rewritten in Java,
with tons of bug fixes and high reliability (Java doesn't corrupt memory,
reports exceptions instead of crashing).
New driver for the PostgreSQL database, supporting the advanced features
like relationships, views, keys, constraints, etc. (Development ongoing)
Buggy DXF files no longer crash AOO.
Various dependency improvements, eg. cairo and pixman are downloaded if
enabled and and system libraries aren't used.
Drop a dependency on ORbit which was last needed in 2003.
GIO instead of GnomeVFS (deprecated 9 years ago) is now the default backend
on GTK-based desktops.
Java's ComponentBase base class for UNO components now has isDisposed() and
checkDisposed() methods.
ComponentBase locking on disposal fix.
Require Apache Commons Lang for the build.
#i32546# - Java UnoRuntime.getUniqueKey/generateOid do not work reliably
Remove some incorrect API documentation for the
com.sun.star.sdbc.SQLException ErrorCode field.
We need the system Apache Commons Lang to be version 3.x.
Write a main/ant.properties file from main/set_soenv, which can be used in
Ant projects to work out settings, locations, and paths to dependencies
without getting them from a parent build tool (dmake/gbuild), which allows
Ant projects to build by themselves,  independently of AOO, and allows them
to be cleanly opened in (at least) Eclipse.
Remove the obsolete KDE address book SDBC driver, that only worked on KDE
3.2 - 3.6, which are obsolete since 9 years ago.
Update AnyConverter.toObject() to use Java 1.5+'s generics.
If called on an empty collection, don't let
OEnumerationByIndex.nextElement() call XIndexAccess.getByIndex() with an
invalid index, just like OEnumerationByName.nextElement() doesn't.
Fix some comment typos in javaunohelper's PropertySet.java,
Update javaunohelper's MultiTypeInterfaceContainer.java to use generics,
and fix performance bugs in getContainer() where O(n) iteration over all
keys was being done instead of an O(1) map.get(), and in
getContainedTypes() where iteration over keys and then n calls to map.get()
for the value was being done instead of iteration over entries.
Java boxing optimization and cleanups for l10ntools.
Use more efficient Java boxing in main/filter.
Use more efficient Java boxing for basic types in main/bean.
Add some Java performance optimizations with boxing of basic types: instead
of using "new ()", use .valueOf(), or better yet,
rely on autoboxing.
Add initial support for building AOO with Clang on Linux.
We need to pass "-DEBUG" to the linker on Windows for debugging to work.
When debug symbols are produced for C / C++ / Objective C, produce them for
Java too.
Add debug symbols to gbuild modules when any of --enable-debug,
--enable-symbols, or --enable-crashdump are passed to ./configure (just
like it already is for dmake modules), as opposed to the previous behaviour
of only doing it on --enable-debug.
Fix a FreeBSD regression in the gbuild gb_CPUDEFS variable caused by
r1773166, where it was always set to POWERPC64 due to a swapped if-else.
Don't use the "archive" package format, which is to be extrated by
smoketest as a side effect, for the subsequent tests. The smoketest is
currently broken and won't do that, and the path is wrong anyway. Instead,
use the office instance from the "installed" package format for subsequent
tests, as it doesn't have to zipped up and unzipped, resulting in faster
building and faster testing, and doesn't require a side effect.
Pass "-encoding UTF8" to javac, as some Java sources, particularly those
used in subsequent tests, contain special characters that are encoded in
UTF-8, and fail to compile without this option.
Correlate the Perl modules tested for in bulk with the Perl modules tested
for individually to be reported as missing, so that those reported as
missing are correct.
Add a main/sd subsequent test that wasn't hooked into the build.
Fix a configure.ac problem with hamcrest detection.
Fix a main/sw subsequent test.
Add a ./configure option for Hamcrest once again, this time 

Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-22 Thread Dave Fisher
We have regressions in 4.1.4. Until we get a fix out in either 4.2.0 or 4.1.5 
we will continue to get bug reports. These will distract our volunteers and 
impact our users.

We owe it to our users to be quick.

Regarding 4.2.0. What are the new features and is everything being worked into 
trunk complete? If we were to decide to release it “quickly” what needs to be 
done?

Regards,
Dave

> On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:34 AM, Peter kovacs  wrote:
> 
> I think to use 4.2.0 directly is causing less regression then to backport  a 
> subset of fixes on the 4.1.x tree and then test for regressions.
> 
> If the fix is indeed successfull with the build changes, we should release 
> the new build, and go on.
> 
> 
> Am 22. November 2017 13:05:14 MEZ schrieb Patricia Shanahan :
>> I see 4.1.5-dev as a device for testing whether a bug is due to a
>> specific problem. That change is already checked in to the trunk.
>> 
>> We still have to decide whether to go straight to 4.2.0. The upside is,
>> 
>> as Damjam points out, that we need to get the general benefits of 4.2
>> out in the field. The downside is that, because of more changes, 4.2.0
>> has a higher risk of regression. Should 4.2.0 go through field
>> beta-testing?
>> 
>> Going to 4.2.0 would simplify my activities. Because of better debug
>> building and on general principles, I do my debug and fixing in trunk.
>> I
>> then have to back port the fixes to the 4.1.x line.
>> 
>> On 11/22/2017 2:37 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:
>>> Thank you, but when are these 4.1.x releases going to stop?
>>> 
>>> We have so much lined up for 4.2.0.
>>> 
>>> Damjan
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Jim Jagielski 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 I have both macOS and Linux-64bit builds of 4.1.5-dev (HEAD on the
 AOO415 branch) available for fun and games (and testing) at:
 
 http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
 
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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-22 Thread Peter kovacs
I think to use 4.2.0 directly is causing less regression then to backport  a 
subset of fixes on the 4.1.x tree and then test for regressions.

If the fix is indeed successfull with the build changes, we should release the 
new build, and go on.


Am 22. November 2017 13:05:14 MEZ schrieb Patricia Shanahan :
>I see 4.1.5-dev as a device for testing whether a bug is due to a 
>specific problem. That change is already checked in to the trunk.
>
>We still have to decide whether to go straight to 4.2.0. The upside is,
>
>as Damjam points out, that we need to get the general benefits of 4.2 
>out in the field. The downside is that, because of more changes, 4.2.0 
>has a higher risk of regression. Should 4.2.0 go through field
>beta-testing?
>
>Going to 4.2.0 would simplify my activities. Because of better debug 
>building and on general principles, I do my debug and fixing in trunk.
>I 
>then have to back port the fixes to the 4.1.x line.
>
>On 11/22/2017 2:37 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:
>> Thank you, but when are these 4.1.x releases going to stop?
>> 
>> We have so much lined up for 4.2.0.
>> 
>> Damjan
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Jim Jagielski 
>wrote:
>> 
>>> I have both macOS and Linux-64bit builds of 4.1.5-dev (HEAD on the
>>> AOO415 branch) available for fun and games (and testing) at:
>>>
>>>  http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
>>>
>>> I've built all langs but have just uploaded: de, en-US, es, fr
>>> and ja (for now). Let me know if people want/need others
>>> uploaded.
>>>
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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-22 Thread Pedro Lino

> 
> > > 
> > > > > We have buildbots building 4.1.4 every week...
> > > 
> > > > > In my opinion that is a waste of electric power and computing 
> > > resources
> > 
> > > Well, it is important for the release process, but 4.1.4 is out 
> > now...
> 


Exactly my point.

If the idea is to test changes in the build environment with a known good 
source, it should be enough to run when/if the build environment is modified...

If this can not be controlled/detected then maybe create a env_test folder (and 
create the respective src, win, linux32 and linux64 folders inside it)


> We are building trunk daily/nightly and branch (4.1.4) on a weekly base.
> That could be easily switched to 4.1.5 although the naming of the bots
> wouldn't change. I could try to get more generic names for them in the
> future.
> 


Maybe rename the folders from Snapshot to Development? Both are 
daily/nightly/weekly builds except one is from Trunk and the other should be 
from the Development branch. E.g. win_trunk and win_dev ?


Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-22 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 22.11.2017 um 15:17 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> Hi Matthias, all
>
>
>> We have buildbots building 4.1.4 every week...
>>
>
> In my opinion that is a waste of electric power and computing resources

Well, it is important for the release process, but 4.1.4 is out now...

>
>
>> Would it make sense to switch them to 4.1.5?
>>
>
> That would make a little more sense...
>
> It should be enough to change the Snap buildbots that are currently still 
> building 4.1.2 snapshots on a daily basis (or so I assume since it is 
> impossible for Apache to details of the files but the page is built every day)
>
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/winsnap/
>
> and
>
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/linsnap/

Forget these pages, they are built by a useless script on Apache servers.

Currently all informations about our buildbots can be seen here:
https://www.openoffice.org/download/devbuilds.html

We are building trunk daily/nightly and branch (4.1.4) on a weekly base.
That could be easily switched to 4.1.5 although the naming of the bots
wouldn't change. I could try to get more generic names for them in the
future.

Regards, Matthias

>
>
> Regards,
>
> Pedro
>
>
>
>> Am 22.11.2017 um 13:31 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:
>>
>> > > What's the alternative to going to 4.2.0?
>>> I only test trunk. So it's 4.1.x that lacks testing from me.
>>>
>>> We also really should start running the various tests and comparing 
>>> results
>>> from trunk against 4.1's.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
>>>
>>> > > > I see 4.1.5-dev as a device for testing whether a bug is 
>>> due to a specific
 problem. That change is already checked in to the trunk.

 We still have to decide whether to go straight to 4.2.0. The 
 upside is, as
 Damjam points out, that we need to get the general benefits of 
 4.2 out in
 the field. The downside is that, because of more changes, 
 4.2.0 has a
 higher risk of regression. Should 4.2.0 go through field 
 beta-testing?

 Going to 4.2.0 would simplify my activities. Because of better 
 debug
 building and on general principles, I do my debug and fixing 
 in trunk. I
 then have to back port the fixes to the 4.1.x line.


 On 11/22/2017 2:37 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

 > > > > Thank you, but when are these 4.1.x releases going 
 to stop?
> We have so much lined up for 4.2.0.
>
> Damjan
>
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
> I have both macOS and Linux-64bit builds of 4.1.5-dev 
> (HEAD on the
>
> > > > > > AOO415 branch) available for fun and games 
> (and testing) at:
>> http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
>>
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>> en-US, es, fr
>> and ja (for now). Let me know if people want/need 
>> others
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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-22 Thread Pedro Lino
Hi Matthias, all


> We have buildbots building 4.1.4 every week...
> 


In my opinion that is a waste of electric power and computing resources


> Would it make sense to switch them to 4.1.5?
> 


That would make a little more sense...

It should be enough to change the Snap buildbots that are currently still 
building 4.1.2 snapshots on a daily basis (or so I assume since it is 
impossible for Apache to details of the files but the page is built every day)

https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/winsnap/

and

https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/linsnap/


Regards,

Pedro



> Am 22.11.2017 um 13:31 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:
> 
> > > What's the alternative to going to 4.2.0?
> > 
> > I only test trunk. So it's 4.1.x that lacks testing from me.
> > 
> > We also really should start running the various tests and comparing 
> > results
> > from trunk against 4.1's.
> > 
> > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> > 
> > > > > I see 4.1.5-dev as a device for testing whether a bug is 
> > due to a specific
> > > problem. That change is already checked in to the trunk.
> > > 
> > > We still have to decide whether to go straight to 4.2.0. The 
> > > upside is, as
> > > Damjam points out, that we need to get the general benefits 
> > > of 4.2 out in
> > > the field. The downside is that, because of more changes, 
> > > 4.2.0 has a
> > > higher risk of regression. Should 4.2.0 go through field 
> > > beta-testing?
> > > 
> > > Going to 4.2.0 would simplify my activities. Because of 
> > > better debug
> > > building and on general principles, I do my debug and fixing 
> > > in trunk. I
> > > then have to back port the fixes to the 4.1.x line.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 11/22/2017 2:37 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > > > Thank you, but when are these 4.1.x releases 
> > > going to stop?
> > > > 
> > > > We have so much lined up for 4.2.0.
> > > > 
> > > > Damjan
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I have both macOS and Linux-64bit builds of 4.1.5-dev 
> > > > (HEAD on the
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > > AOO415 branch) available for fun and 
> > > > games (and testing) at:
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
> > > > > 
> > > > > I've built all langs but have just uploaded: de, 
> > > > > en-US, es, fr
> > > > > and ja (for now). Let me know if people want/need 
> > > > > others
> > > > > uploaded.
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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-22 Thread Matthias Seidel
We have buildbots building 4.1.4 every week...

Would it make sense to switch them to 4.1.5?

Regards, Matthias


Am 22.11.2017 um 13:31 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:
> What's the alternative to going to 4.2.0?
>
> I only test trunk. So it's 4.1.x that lacks testing from me.
>
> We also really should start running the various tests and comparing results
> from trunk against 4.1's.
>
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Patricia Shanahan  wrote:
>
>> I see 4.1.5-dev as a device for testing whether a bug is due to a specific
>> problem. That change is already checked in to the trunk.
>>
>> We still have to decide whether to go straight to 4.2.0. The upside is, as
>> Damjam points out, that we need to get the general benefits of 4.2 out in
>> the field. The downside is that, because of more changes, 4.2.0 has a
>> higher risk of regression. Should 4.2.0 go through field beta-testing?
>>
>> Going to 4.2.0 would simplify my activities. Because of better debug
>> building and on general principles, I do my debug and fixing in trunk. I
>> then have to back port the fixes to the 4.1.x line.
>>
>>
>> On 11/22/2017 2:37 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you, but when are these 4.1.x releases going to stop?
>>>
>>> We have so much lined up for 4.2.0.
>>>
>>> Damjan
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>>
>>> I have both macOS and Linux-64bit builds of 4.1.5-dev (HEAD on the
 AOO415 branch) available for fun and games (and testing) at:

  http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/

 I've built all langs but have just uploaded: de, en-US, es, fr
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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-22 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
What's the alternative to going to 4.2.0?

I only test trunk. So it's 4.1.x that lacks testing from me.

We also really should start running the various tests and comparing results
from trunk against 4.1's.

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Patricia Shanahan  wrote:

> I see 4.1.5-dev as a device for testing whether a bug is due to a specific
> problem. That change is already checked in to the trunk.
>
> We still have to decide whether to go straight to 4.2.0. The upside is, as
> Damjam points out, that we need to get the general benefits of 4.2 out in
> the field. The downside is that, because of more changes, 4.2.0 has a
> higher risk of regression. Should 4.2.0 go through field beta-testing?
>
> Going to 4.2.0 would simplify my activities. Because of better debug
> building and on general principles, I do my debug and fixing in trunk. I
> then have to back port the fixes to the 4.1.x line.
>
>
> On 11/22/2017 2:37 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:
>
>> Thank you, but when are these 4.1.x releases going to stop?
>>
>> We have so much lined up for 4.2.0.
>>
>> Damjan
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>
>> I have both macOS and Linux-64bit builds of 4.1.5-dev (HEAD on the
>>> AOO415 branch) available for fun and games (and testing) at:
>>>
>>>  http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
>>>
>>> I've built all langs but have just uploaded: de, en-US, es, fr
>>> and ja (for now). Let me know if people want/need others
>>> uploaded.
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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-22 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I see 4.1.5-dev as a device for testing whether a bug is due to a 
specific problem. That change is already checked in to the trunk.


We still have to decide whether to go straight to 4.2.0. The upside is, 
as Damjam points out, that we need to get the general benefits of 4.2 
out in the field. The downside is that, because of more changes, 4.2.0 
has a higher risk of regression. Should 4.2.0 go through field beta-testing?


Going to 4.2.0 would simplify my activities. Because of better debug 
building and on general principles, I do my debug and fixing in trunk. I 
then have to back port the fixes to the 4.1.x line.


On 11/22/2017 2:37 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

Thank you, but when are these 4.1.x releases going to stop?

We have so much lined up for 4.2.0.

Damjan

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:


I have both macOS and Linux-64bit builds of 4.1.5-dev (HEAD on the
AOO415 branch) available for fun and games (and testing) at:

 http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/

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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-22 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
Thank you, but when are these 4.1.x releases going to stop?

We have so much lined up for 4.2.0.

Damjan

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:

> I have both macOS and Linux-64bit builds of 4.1.5-dev (HEAD on the
> AOO415 branch) available for fun and games (and testing) at:
>
> http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
>
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> and ja (for now). Let me know if people want/need others
> uploaded.
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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-21 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 21.11.2017 um 19:35 schrieb Dave Fisher:
> Hi -
>
> Both regressions are fixed in the new build.
>
> Also, it looks like all of the versioning has been changed correctly. At 
> least on the about box and readme files.

The update URL is still pointing to 4.1.4:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/AOO415/main/instsetoo_native/util/openoffice.lst

Windows builds are ready for testing:
https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-415-Dev/

Regards, Matthias

>
> I tried to test issue 127600 but I can’t understand what was done in the 
> first place.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>> On Nov 20, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Larry Gusaas  wrote:
>>
>> Database & spreadsheet regressions fixed.
>> Larry
>>
>> On 2017-11-20, 9:49 AM Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>> I have both macOS and Linux-64bit builds of 4.1.5-dev (HEAD on the
>>> AOO415 branch) available for fun and games (and testing) at:
>>>
>>> http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
>>>
>>> I've built all langs but have just uploaded: de, en-US, es, fr
>>> and ja (for now). Let me know if people want/need others
>>> uploaded.
>>>
>>> __
>>>
>>
>> --
>> _
>>
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>>
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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-21 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi -

Both regressions are fixed in the new build.

Also, it looks like all of the versioning has been changed correctly. At least 
on the about box and readme files.

I tried to test issue 127600 but I can’t understand what was done in the first 
place.

Regards,
Dave

> On Nov 20, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Larry Gusaas  wrote:
> 
> Database & spreadsheet regressions fixed.
> Larry
> 
> On 2017-11-20, 9:49 AM Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> I have both macOS and Linux-64bit builds of 4.1.5-dev (HEAD on the
>> AOO415 branch) available for fun and games (and testing) at:
>> 
>> http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
>> 
>> I've built all langs but have just uploaded: de, en-US, es, fr
>> and ja (for now). Let me know if people want/need others
>> uploaded.
>> 
>> __
>> 
> 
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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-20 Thread Larry Gusaas

Database & spreadsheet regressions fixed.
Larry

On 2017-11-20, 9:49 AM Jim Jagielski wrote:

I have both macOS and Linux-64bit builds of 4.1.5-dev (HEAD on the
AOO415 branch) available for fun and games (and testing) at:

 http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/

I've built all langs but have just uploaded: de, en-US, es, fr
and ja (for now). Let me know if people want/need others
uploaded.

__




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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-20 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 16:14:53 +
Rory O'Farrell  wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 11:07:49 -0500
> Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> > Permissions should be fixed now. Thx. and Sorry :)
> 
> Thanks, downloading now.
> 
> Rory

Now installed, opened and running.

Rory


> > 
> > > On Nov 20, 2017, at 11:01 AM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 10:49:24 -0500
> > > Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> > > 
> > >> I have both macOS and Linux-64bit builds of 4.1.5-dev (HEAD on the
> > >> AOO415 branch) available for fun and games (and testing) at:
> > >> 
> > >>http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
> > >> 
> > >> I've built all langs but have just uploaded: de, en-US, es, fr
> > >> and ja (for now). Let me know if people want/need others
> > >> uploaded.
> > >> 
> > > I'm getting "No permission message" when I attempt to access 
> > > http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/AOO-4.1.5-dev-20171120/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.5_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
> > > 
> > > I don't use many of the features of OO - merely Writer, simple (trivial) 
> > > Calc, and occasional Impress, but I will try 4.1.5 for my daily use.
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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-20 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 11:07:49 -0500
Jim Jagielski  wrote:

> Permissions should be fixed now. Thx. and Sorry :)

Thanks, downloading now.

Rory


> 
> > On Nov 20, 2017, at 11:01 AM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 10:49:24 -0500
> > Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> > 
> >> I have both macOS and Linux-64bit builds of 4.1.5-dev (HEAD on the
> >> AOO415 branch) available for fun and games (and testing) at:
> >> 
> >>http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
> >> 
> >> I've built all langs but have just uploaded: de, en-US, es, fr
> >> and ja (for now). Let me know if people want/need others
> >> uploaded.
> >> 
> > I'm getting "No permission message" when I attempt to access 
> > http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/AOO-4.1.5-dev-20171120/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.5_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
> > 
> > I don't use many of the features of OO - merely Writer, simple (trivial) 
> > Calc, and occasional Impress, but I will try 4.1.5 for my daily use.
> > 
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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-20 Thread Jim Jagielski
Permissions should be fixed now. Thx. and Sorry :)

> On Nov 20, 2017, at 11:01 AM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 10:49:24 -0500
> Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
>> I have both macOS and Linux-64bit builds of 4.1.5-dev (HEAD on the
>> AOO415 branch) available for fun and games (and testing) at:
>> 
>>http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
>> 
>> I've built all langs but have just uploaded: de, en-US, es, fr
>> and ja (for now). Let me know if people want/need others
>> uploaded.
>> 
> I'm getting "No permission message" when I attempt to access 
> http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/AOO-4.1.5-dev-20171120/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.5_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
> 
> I don't use many of the features of OO - merely Writer, simple (trivial) 
> Calc, and occasional Impress, but I will try 4.1.5 for my daily use.
> 
> -- 
> Rory O'Farrell 
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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-20 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 10:49:24 -0500
Jim Jagielski  wrote:

> I have both macOS and Linux-64bit builds of 4.1.5-dev (HEAD on the
> AOO415 branch) available for fun and games (and testing) at:
> 
> http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
> 
> I've built all langs but have just uploaded: de, en-US, es, fr
> and ja (for now). Let me know if people want/need others
> uploaded.
> 
I'm getting "No permission message" when I attempt to access 
http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/AOO-4.1.5-dev-20171120/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.5_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz

I don't use many of the features of OO - merely Writer, simple (trivial) Calc, 
and occasional Impress, but I will try 4.1.5 for my daily use.

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AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

2017-11-20 Thread Jim Jagielski
I have both macOS and Linux-64bit builds of 4.1.5-dev (HEAD on the
AOO415 branch) available for fun and games (and testing) at:

http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/

I've built all langs but have just uploaded: de, en-US, es, fr
and ja (for now). Let me know if people want/need others
uploaded.

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