Re: AOO mailing list subscription totals, and other tidbits

2014-11-13 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Jürgen Schmidt  wrote:
> On 12/11/14 20:19, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> jan i wrote:
>>> On 12 November 2014 15:38, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 It's sometimes very interesting and there are some more numbers
>>
>> Mailing list numbers are very good. The announce list, if I recall
>> correctly, used to have ~8000 subscribers, so this would be a 40-50%
>> increment. Also, mailing list numbers show that when we write here we
>> write to a much larger audience than the regular posters.
>>
>> Website numbers are different. Good traffic, but all of it is quite
>> focused (3 pages, 2 minutes, few recurring visitors in percentage).
>
> if the 3 pages are the same we can of course focus to use this entry
> points and make them as useful as possible.
>


And we do have the ability to put a banner message (with a hyperlink)
on all web pages at once.   So we can catch the website traffic if we
have a message we want to get out.

-Rob

> Juergen
>
>
> This
>> can probably be explained by the fact that website visitors are mostly
>> people who download or update OpenOffice and are not planning to get
>> involved (on the other side, active volunteers will often use other
>> resources). Still, it's a potential that we can exploit.
>>
>> More numbers are coming next week as promised... But in general they
>> reinforce the idea that Apache OpenOffice is now a mature project with
>> good internal dynamics (even though I still see many fields where we
>> need help and mentoring) and that this is a good moment to change pace
>> and perspective, and use our full potential. More in one week at ApacheCon.
>>
>>> apacheCON is in less than a week away, tuesday will have a official AOO
>>> meeting for everybody (except timewasters according to some)
>>
>> Occasions for a meeting are rare. It's important that we use this time
>> at best. And that we come out with some great ideas and with motivated
>> people willing to implement them with respect and backing from the
>> community (and the PMC if you wish, but I find it sterile to distinguish
>> between the two: OpenOffice is not the playground of the PMC, it is a
>> community project for everybody to enjoy).
>>
>>> I personally look forward to that meeting.
>>
>> Me too! I'm looking forward to an exciting, productive discussion and,
>> if we need time, to a long night...
>>
>> Regards,
>>   Andrea.
>>
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Re: AOO mailing list subscription totals, and other tidbits

2014-11-12 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 12/11/14 20:19, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> jan i wrote:
>> On 12 November 2014 15:38, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>> It's sometimes very interesting and there are some more numbers
> 
> Mailing list numbers are very good. The announce list, if I recall
> correctly, used to have ~8000 subscribers, so this would be a 40-50%
> increment. Also, mailing list numbers show that when we write here we
> write to a much larger audience than the regular posters.
> 
> Website numbers are different. Good traffic, but all of it is quite
> focused (3 pages, 2 minutes, few recurring visitors in percentage). 

if the 3 pages are the same we can of course focus to use this entry
points and make them as useful as possible.

Juergen


This
> can probably be explained by the fact that website visitors are mostly
> people who download or update OpenOffice and are not planning to get
> involved (on the other side, active volunteers will often use other
> resources). Still, it's a potential that we can exploit.
> 
> More numbers are coming next week as promised... But in general they
> reinforce the idea that Apache OpenOffice is now a mature project with
> good internal dynamics (even though I still see many fields where we
> need help and mentoring) and that this is a good moment to change pace
> and perspective, and use our full potential. More in one week at ApacheCon.
> 
>> apacheCON is in less than a week away, tuesday will have a official AOO
>> meeting for everybody (except timewasters according to some)
> 
> Occasions for a meeting are rare. It's important that we use this time
> at best. And that we come out with some great ideas and with motivated
> people willing to implement them with respect and backing from the
> community (and the PMC if you wish, but I find it sterile to distinguish
> between the two: OpenOffice is not the playground of the PMC, it is a
> community project for everybody to enjoy).
> 
>> I personally look forward to that meeting.
> 
> Me too! I'm looking forward to an exciting, productive discussion and,
> if we need time, to a long night...
> 
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
> 
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Re: AOO mailing list subscription totals, and other tidbits

2014-11-12 Thread Andrea Pescetti

jan i wrote:

On 12 November 2014 15:38, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

It's sometimes very interesting and there are some more numbers


Mailing list numbers are very good. The announce list, if I recall 
correctly, used to have ~8000 subscribers, so this would be a 40-50% 
increment. Also, mailing list numbers show that when we write here we 
write to a much larger audience than the regular posters.


Website numbers are different. Good traffic, but all of it is quite 
focused (3 pages, 2 minutes, few recurring visitors in percentage). This 
can probably be explained by the fact that website visitors are mostly 
people who download or update OpenOffice and are not planning to get 
involved (on the other side, active volunteers will often use other 
resources). Still, it's a potential that we can exploit.


More numbers are coming next week as promised... But in general they 
reinforce the idea that Apache OpenOffice is now a mature project with 
good internal dynamics (even though I still see many fields where we 
need help and mentoring) and that this is a good moment to change pace 
and perspective, and use our full potential. More in one week at ApacheCon.



apacheCON is in less than a week away, tuesday will have a official AOO
meeting for everybody (except timewasters according to some)


Occasions for a meeting are rare. It's important that we use this time 
at best. And that we come out with some great ideas and with motivated 
people willing to implement them with respect and backing from the 
community (and the PMC if you wish, but I find it sterile to distinguish 
between the two: OpenOffice is not the playground of the PMC, it is a 
community project for everybody to enjoy).



I personally look forward to that meeting.


Me too! I'm looking forward to an exciting, productive discussion and, 
if we need time, to a long night...


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: AOO mailing list subscription totals, and other tidbits

2014-11-12 Thread jan i
On 12 November 2014 15:38, Jürgen Schmidt  wrote:

> On 12/11/14 14:55, jan i wrote:
> > On 12 November 2014 00:30, Dave Barton  wrote:
> >
> >> Rob Weir wrote:
> >>> Here's the current total subscribers for the AOO mailing lists I
> >> moderate:
> >>>
> >>> announce 11,318
> >>> users 584
> >>> dev 499
> >>> qa 277
> >>> l10n 233
> >>> marketing 173
> >>> api 149
> >>>
> >>> (I'm not a moderator for the doc mailing list, so I can't retrieve that
> >> number).
> >>>
> >>> We also have 3,522 Twitter followers, 13,000 Facebook "likes" and
> >>> 7,368 Google+ followers.
> >>>
> >>> And we receive 230,000 visitors to the website per day.
> >>>
> >>> -Rob
> >>
> >> doc 147
> >>
> >
> > Thanks for making this information public. Considering that most
> end-users
> > use our website and/or forum it can only be considered as quite good
> > numbers.
>
> some more numbers via Google analytics
>
> 6,850,955 - The total number of visits to your site this month
>
> 02:03 - The average amount of time someone spends on your site in a
> single session
>
> 3 The average number of pages viewed in a single session
>
> Visits top countries
> 1,128,246 - United States
> 992,850 - France
> 695,603 - Germany
> 501,777 - Italy
> 338,467 - United Kingdom
>
> Unique visitors
> 5,413,113 New Visitors
> 521,008 Return Visitors
> 5,934,121 Unique Visitors
>
> Top keywords
> open office 78880 Visits
> openoffice  62311 Visits
> オープンオフィス7859 Visits
> openoffice download 4792 Visits
> openoffice.org  4632 Visits
>
> It's sometimes very interesting and there are some more numbers
>
> Juergen
>
> >
> > rgds
> > jan i.
> >
> >
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >
>

This is indeed very interesting numbers, our user base are there and have
expections of what we deliver.

With this motivation injection, we should start putting the foot down on
the speeder and accelerate the growth of our project.

With that many users believing in us, we should deliver and not just talk.

apacheCON is in less than a week away, tuesday will have a official AOO
meeting for everybody (except timewasters according to some), I personally
look forward to that meeting. On this list I can only speculate that
hopefully the PMC will get together, and show a strong front with responses
on how to move forward. We as a project need a PMC that stand together and
show the world (and the community) how great a product we haveand more
importantly show by example how we can accelerate our development.

Even though I am no longer PMC (at my own will, due to reasons that should
be obvious), I still care a lot about the project, and want to help it back
into being the big success it once was (remark I wrote project, not PMC).

looking forward to see hopefully a lot of you in Budapest (just look for a
big viking).

rgds
jan i.




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Re: AOO mailing list subscription totals, and other tidbits

2014-11-12 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 12/11/14 14:55, jan i wrote:
> On 12 November 2014 00:30, Dave Barton  wrote:
> 
>> Rob Weir wrote:
>>> Here's the current total subscribers for the AOO mailing lists I
>> moderate:
>>>
>>> announce 11,318
>>> users 584
>>> dev 499
>>> qa 277
>>> l10n 233
>>> marketing 173
>>> api 149
>>>
>>> (I'm not a moderator for the doc mailing list, so I can't retrieve that
>> number).
>>>
>>> We also have 3,522 Twitter followers, 13,000 Facebook "likes" and
>>> 7,368 Google+ followers.
>>>
>>> And we receive 230,000 visitors to the website per day.
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>
>> doc 147
>>
> 
> Thanks for making this information public. Considering that most end-users
> use our website and/or forum it can only be considered as quite good
> numbers.

some more numbers via Google analytics

6,850,955 - The total number of visits to your site this month

02:03 - The average amount of time someone spends on your site in a
single session

3 The average number of pages viewed in a single session

Visits top countries
1,128,246 - United States
992,850 - France
695,603 - Germany
501,777 - Italy
338,467 - United Kingdom

Unique visitors
5,413,113 New Visitors
521,008 Return Visitors
5,934,121 Unique Visitors

Top keywords
open office 78880 Visits
openoffice  62311 Visits
オープンオフィス7859 Visits 
openoffice download 4792 Visits 
openoffice.org  4632 Visits 

It's sometimes very interesting and there are some more numbers 

Juergen

> 
> rgds
> jan i.
> 
> 
>> Dave
>>
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Re: AOO mailing list subscription totals, and other tidbits

2014-11-12 Thread jan i
On 12 November 2014 00:30, Dave Barton  wrote:

> Rob Weir wrote:
> > Here's the current total subscribers for the AOO mailing lists I
> moderate:
> >
> > announce 11,318
> > users 584
> > dev 499
> > qa 277
> > l10n 233
> > marketing 173
> > api 149
> >
> > (I'm not a moderator for the doc mailing list, so I can't retrieve that
> number).
> >
> > We also have 3,522 Twitter followers, 13,000 Facebook "likes" and
> > 7,368 Google+ followers.
> >
> > And we receive 230,000 visitors to the website per day.
> >
> > -Rob
>
> doc 147
>

Thanks for making this information public. Considering that most end-users
use our website and/or forum it can only be considered as quite good
numbers.

rgds
jan i.


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Re: AOO mailing list subscription totals, and other tidbits

2014-11-11 Thread Dave Barton
Rob Weir wrote:
> Here's the current total subscribers for the AOO mailing lists I moderate:
> 
> announce 11,318
> users 584
> dev 499
> qa 277
> l10n 233
> marketing 173
> api 149
> 
> (I'm not a moderator for the doc mailing list, so I can't retrieve that 
> number).
> 
> We also have 3,522 Twitter followers, 13,000 Facebook "likes" and
> 7,368 Google+ followers.
> 
> And we receive 230,000 visitors to the website per day.
> 
> -Rob

doc 147

Dave



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AOO mailing list subscription totals, and other tidbits

2014-11-11 Thread Rob Weir
Here's the current total subscribers for the AOO mailing lists I moderate:

announce 11,318
users 584
dev 499
qa 277
l10n 233
marketing 173
api 149

(I'm not a moderator for the doc mailing list, so I can't retrieve that number).

We also have 3,522 Twitter followers, 13,000 Facebook "likes" and
7,368 Google+ followers.

And we receive 230,000 visitors to the website per day.

-Rob

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