Re: Performance measurements on Mac vs others

2014-01-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 31/12/2013 Keith N. McKenna wrote:

when snipping off everything after the html then it opens a very old
FAQ dealing with the old Mac porting project. Right at the top it says
that X11 is not needed with Aqua! These FAQ's are very old and I
suspect quite outdated.


As discussed here, they are so obsolete that nobody can find them useful 
any longer.


So I've removed the content from these two pages:

http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/faq/installing/ooo_x11.html

http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/faq/installing/X11.html

There's a lot of outdated information around, but since these specific 
pages were confusing it's good to remove them.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Performance measurements on Mac vs others

2013-12-31 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Hi I am in a disucussion with a friend about how slow is OpenOffice for Mac
since it relies on X11. I thought that X11 was no longer needed and an aqua
version was provided, but it seems this was not true since reading the FAQ
it says that X11 is included with AOO -- hence the dependency still with
the display manager.

That said besides starting up, I am not sure how would that impact
performance of the application when performing common tasks.

However, since I don't own a mac, I would like to open the discussion to
the community and get some feedback regardling performance on cold boots,
between the different OS.

For 4.0.1 I got times of 4 seconds to boot OpenOffice on my Linux box with
4GB of RAM and a core dou chip.

Would be nice if people can time the boot time of this application.

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Re: Performance measurements on Mac vs others

2013-12-31 Thread Raphael Bircher

Am 31.12.13 18:48, schrieb Alexandro Colorado:

Hi I am in a disucussion with a friend about how slow is OpenOffice for Mac
since it relies on X11. I thought that X11 was no longer needed and an aqua
version was provided, but it seems this was not true since reading the FAQ
it says that X11 is included with AOO -- hence the dependency still with
the display manager.
Do you have a link to this FAQ. This most be a realy old one. No we need 
no X11 on Mac OS X


That said besides starting up, I am not sure how would that impact
performance of the application when performing common tasks.

However, since I don't own a mac, I would like to open the discussion to
the community and get some feedback regardling performance on cold boots,
between the different OS.

For 4.0.1 I got times of 4 seconds to boot OpenOffice on my Linux box with
4GB of RAM and a core dou chip.
On my Core 3 Doal Core 1.8 GHz Macbook Air with SSD it takes less then 3 
seconds. On my MacBook 2008 model 2.4 GHz Core2Duo it takes more then 8 
seconds. But this is because the HD of this model es realy slow.


Greetings Raphael

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Re: Performance measurements on Mac vs others

2013-12-31 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 11:48:06 -0600
Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:

 Hi I am in a disucussion with a friend about how slow is OpenOffice for Mac
 since it relies on X11. I thought that X11 was no longer needed and an aqua
 version was provided, but it seems this was not true since reading the FAQ
 it says that X11 is included with AOO -- hence the dependency still with
 the display manager.
 
 That said besides starting up, I am not sure how would that impact
 performance of the application when performing common tasks.
 
 However, since I don't own a mac, I would like to open the discussion to
 the community and get some feedback regardling performance on cold boots,
 between the different OS.
 
 For 4.0.1 I got times of 4 seconds to boot OpenOffice on my Linux box with
 4GB of RAM and a core dou chip.
 
 Would be nice if people can time the boot time of this application.
 
 -- 
 Alexandro Colorado

I can give you three sets of figures
In all cases, to open to the splash screen.
On Xubuntu 32 10 seconds (subsequent opening 3 secs) P4 dualcore 4GB memory
On Xubuntu 64 12 seconds (subsequent opening 2 secs) AMD dualcore 4GB
On WinXP 32  5 seconds (subsequent opening 2 secs) AMD dualcore 4GB

On both computers slow hard disks.
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Re: Performance measurements on Mac vs others

2013-12-31 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote:

 Am 31.12.13 18:48, schrieb Alexandro Colorado:

  Hi I am in a disucussion with a friend about how slow is OpenOffice for
 Mac
 since it relies on X11. I thought that X11 was no longer needed and an
 aqua
 version was provided, but it seems this was not true since reading the FAQ
 it says that X11 is included with AOO -- hence the dependency still with
 the display manager.

 Do you have a link to this FAQ. This most be a realy old one. No we need
 no X11 on Mac OS X


 http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/faq/installing/X11.html​

​ X11 comes pre-installed on Mac OSX 10.5, so you can install
OpenOffice.orghttp://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/faq/installing/ooo.htmldirectly.​





 That said besides starting up, I am not sure how would that impact
 performance of the application when performing common tasks.

 However, since I don't own a mac, I would like to open the discussion to
 the community and get some feedback regardling performance on cold boots,
 between the different OS.

 For 4.0.1 I got times of 4 seconds to boot OpenOffice on my Linux box with
 4GB of RAM and a core dou chip.

 On my Core 3 Doal Core 1.8 GHz Macbook Air with SSD it takes less then 3
 seconds. On my MacBook 2008 model 2.4 GHz Core2Duo it takes more then 8
 seconds. But this is because the HD of this model es realy slow.

 Greetings Raphael

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Re: Performance measurements on Mac vs others

2013-12-31 Thread Raphael Bircher

Am 31.12.13 19:31, schrieb Alexandro Colorado:

On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote:


Am 31.12.13 18:48, schrieb Alexandro Colorado:

  Hi I am in a disucussion with a friend about how slow is OpenOffice for

Mac
since it relies on X11. I thought that X11 was no longer needed and an
aqua
version was provided, but it seems this was not true since reading the FAQ
it says that X11 is included with AOO -- hence the dependency still with
the display manager.


Do you have a link to this FAQ. This most be a realy old one. No we need
no X11 on Mac OS X


  http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/faq/installing/X11.html​

​ X11 comes pre-installed on Mac OSX 10.5, so you can install
OpenOffice.orghttp://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/faq/installing/ooo.htmldirectly.​
Yea, 10.5 comes with x11. But this dosn't mean we use it. Your URL is 
prehistoric, and describe the install process of a 2.x (wich still use X11)


3.x and 4.x use definitifly no X11

Greetings Raphael


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Re: Performance measurements on Mac vs others

2013-12-31 Thread Keith N. McKenna
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Alexandro Colorado wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Raphael Bircher
 r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote:
 
 Am 31.12.13 18:48, schrieb Alexandro Colorado:
 
 Hi I am in a disucussion with a friend about how slow is
 OpenOffice for
 Mac since it relies on X11. I thought that X11 was no longer
 needed and an aqua version was provided, but it seems this was
 not true since reading the FAQ it says that X11 is included
 with AOO -- hence the dependency still with the display
 manager.
 
 Do you have a link to this FAQ. This most be a realy old one. No
 we need no X11 on Mac OS X
 
 
 http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/faq/installing/X11.html​
 
 ​ X11 comes pre-installed on Mac OSX 10.5, so you can install 
 OpenOffice.orghttp://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/faq/installing/ooo.htmldirectly.
 ​
 
Alexandro;

Your first link contains extraneous characters as shown below thus
giving 404 error when trying to access it.
http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/faq/installing/X11.html%E2%80%8B
when snipping off everything after the html then it opens a very old
FAQ dealing with the old Mac porting project. Right at the top it says
that X11 is not needed with Aqua! These FAQ's are very old and I
suspect quite outdated.

Regards
Keith


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Re: Performance measurements on Mac vs others

2013-12-31 Thread Larry Gusaas

On 2013-12-31, 11:48 AM Alexandro Colorado wrote:

Hi I am in a disucussion with a friend about how slow is OpenOffice for Mac
since it relies on X11. I thought that X11 was no longer needed and an aqua
version was provided, but it seems this was not true since reading the FAQ
it says that X11 is included with AOO -- hence the dependency still with
the display manager.


AOO does not need X11. X11 was never included with OOo. Before OOo 3.0 X11 was required but it 
was included with Mac OS X.



However, since I don't own a mac, I would like to open the discussion to
the community and get some feedback regardling performance on cold boots,
between the different OS.

For 4.0.1 I got times of 4 seconds to boot-

On MacBook Pro - 2.4 GHz i5 -  8GB Ram - PCle SSD
After system reboot - 3 sec.
Subsequent - 2 sec.

On Late 2006 MacBook - 2.0GHz Core 2 Duo -2GB Ram - 7200rpm HDD
After system reboot - 18 sec.
Subsequent - 4.5 sec.

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Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
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Edgard Varese



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