Re: Performance measurements on Mac vs others
On 31/12/2013 Keith N. McKenna wrote: when snipping off everything after the html then it opens a very old FAQ dealing with the old Mac porting project. Right at the top it says that X11 is not needed with Aqua! These FAQ's are very old and I suspect quite outdated. As discussed here, they are so obsolete that nobody can find them useful any longer. So I've removed the content from these two pages: http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/faq/installing/ooo_x11.html http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/faq/installing/X11.html There's a lot of outdated information around, but since these specific pages were confusing it's good to remove them. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Performance measurements on Mac vs others
Hi I am in a disucussion with a friend about how slow is OpenOffice for Mac since it relies on X11. I thought that X11 was no longer needed and an aqua version was provided, but it seems this was not true since reading the FAQ it says that X11 is included with AOO -- hence the dependency still with the display manager. That said besides starting up, I am not sure how would that impact performance of the application when performing common tasks. However, since I don't own a mac, I would like to open the discussion to the community and get some feedback regardling performance on cold boots, between the different OS. For 4.0.1 I got times of 4 seconds to boot OpenOffice on my Linux box with 4GB of RAM and a core dou chip. Would be nice if people can time the boot time of this application. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Performance measurements on Mac vs others
Am 31.12.13 18:48, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: Hi I am in a disucussion with a friend about how slow is OpenOffice for Mac since it relies on X11. I thought that X11 was no longer needed and an aqua version was provided, but it seems this was not true since reading the FAQ it says that X11 is included with AOO -- hence the dependency still with the display manager. Do you have a link to this FAQ. This most be a realy old one. No we need no X11 on Mac OS X That said besides starting up, I am not sure how would that impact performance of the application when performing common tasks. However, since I don't own a mac, I would like to open the discussion to the community and get some feedback regardling performance on cold boots, between the different OS. For 4.0.1 I got times of 4 seconds to boot OpenOffice on my Linux box with 4GB of RAM and a core dou chip. On my Core 3 Doal Core 1.8 GHz Macbook Air with SSD it takes less then 3 seconds. On my MacBook 2008 model 2.4 GHz Core2Duo it takes more then 8 seconds. But this is because the HD of this model es realy slow. Greetings Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Performance measurements on Mac vs others
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 11:48:06 -0600 Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Hi I am in a disucussion with a friend about how slow is OpenOffice for Mac since it relies on X11. I thought that X11 was no longer needed and an aqua version was provided, but it seems this was not true since reading the FAQ it says that X11 is included with AOO -- hence the dependency still with the display manager. That said besides starting up, I am not sure how would that impact performance of the application when performing common tasks. However, since I don't own a mac, I would like to open the discussion to the community and get some feedback regardling performance on cold boots, between the different OS. For 4.0.1 I got times of 4 seconds to boot OpenOffice on my Linux box with 4GB of RAM and a core dou chip. Would be nice if people can time the boot time of this application. -- Alexandro Colorado I can give you three sets of figures In all cases, to open to the splash screen. On Xubuntu 32 10 seconds (subsequent opening 3 secs) P4 dualcore 4GB memory On Xubuntu 64 12 seconds (subsequent opening 2 secs) AMD dualcore 4GB On WinXP 32 5 seconds (subsequent opening 2 secs) AMD dualcore 4GB On both computers slow hard disks. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Performance measurements on Mac vs others
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote: Am 31.12.13 18:48, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: Hi I am in a disucussion with a friend about how slow is OpenOffice for Mac since it relies on X11. I thought that X11 was no longer needed and an aqua version was provided, but it seems this was not true since reading the FAQ it says that X11 is included with AOO -- hence the dependency still with the display manager. Do you have a link to this FAQ. This most be a realy old one. No we need no X11 on Mac OS X http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/faq/installing/X11.html X11 comes pre-installed on Mac OSX 10.5, so you can install OpenOffice.orghttp://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/faq/installing/ooo.htmldirectly. That said besides starting up, I am not sure how would that impact performance of the application when performing common tasks. However, since I don't own a mac, I would like to open the discussion to the community and get some feedback regardling performance on cold boots, between the different OS. For 4.0.1 I got times of 4 seconds to boot OpenOffice on my Linux box with 4GB of RAM and a core dou chip. On my Core 3 Doal Core 1.8 GHz Macbook Air with SSD it takes less then 3 seconds. On my MacBook 2008 model 2.4 GHz Core2Duo it takes more then 8 seconds. But this is because the HD of this model es realy slow. Greetings Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Performance measurements on Mac vs others
Am 31.12.13 19:31, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote: Am 31.12.13 18:48, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: Hi I am in a disucussion with a friend about how slow is OpenOffice for Mac since it relies on X11. I thought that X11 was no longer needed and an aqua version was provided, but it seems this was not true since reading the FAQ it says that X11 is included with AOO -- hence the dependency still with the display manager. Do you have a link to this FAQ. This most be a realy old one. No we need no X11 on Mac OS X http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/faq/installing/X11.html X11 comes pre-installed on Mac OSX 10.5, so you can install OpenOffice.orghttp://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/faq/installing/ooo.htmldirectly. Yea, 10.5 comes with x11. But this dosn't mean we use it. Your URL is prehistoric, and describe the install process of a 2.x (wich still use X11) 3.x and 4.x use definitifly no X11 Greetings Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Performance measurements on Mac vs others
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote: Am 31.12.13 18:48, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: Hi I am in a disucussion with a friend about how slow is OpenOffice for Mac since it relies on X11. I thought that X11 was no longer needed and an aqua version was provided, but it seems this was not true since reading the FAQ it says that X11 is included with AOO -- hence the dependency still with the display manager. Do you have a link to this FAQ. This most be a realy old one. No we need no X11 on Mac OS X http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/faq/installing/X11.html X11 comes pre-installed on Mac OSX 10.5, so you can install OpenOffice.orghttp://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/faq/installing/ooo.htmldirectly. Alexandro; Your first link contains extraneous characters as shown below thus giving 404 error when trying to access it. http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/faq/installing/X11.html%E2%80%8B when snipping off everything after the html then it opens a very old FAQ dealing with the old Mac porting project. Right at the top it says that X11 is not needed with Aqua! These FAQ's are very old and I suspect quite outdated. Regards Keith snip -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSwxdKAAoJEH0fu5UhGmBCkKEH/0K32C7x/Q+f2Xbde8tKhQ1o QoYtnEmNI7uFYVmPnXTu2rBe8MZUmM1bX2Earm3rk/NRyDNmw7n41TMBSk/wpJW/ ZLs0fCWOUnUKY2h6Iv0R/WknmlywoF06J9EUd6hY1VeeSOmkmiEcgIgjEAdlxU9O 6Le/AqaZ1fZcssvVerEXJVDGX2goezQ2YjyEL+89IGYYjDNJjxPo5TYgH6dafkaU JwoACfdrb1LPFqmKn91AmRxNicH3bjz7FlLoiZP61igw9aeivP1b4vtjt61wseiC mGjebqK3VDcYIL/SCBW+rg/9uM7vWMJR0hvB0FUJ2TI+n3BipMFa7BfY+AnxJFI= =JSU0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Performance measurements on Mac vs others
On 2013-12-31, 11:48 AM Alexandro Colorado wrote: Hi I am in a disucussion with a friend about how slow is OpenOffice for Mac since it relies on X11. I thought that X11 was no longer needed and an aqua version was provided, but it seems this was not true since reading the FAQ it says that X11 is included with AOO -- hence the dependency still with the display manager. AOO does not need X11. X11 was never included with OOo. Before OOo 3.0 X11 was required but it was included with Mac OS X. However, since I don't own a mac, I would like to open the discussion to the community and get some feedback regardling performance on cold boots, between the different OS. For 4.0.1 I got times of 4 seconds to boot- On MacBook Pro - 2.4 GHz i5 - 8GB Ram - PCle SSD After system reboot - 3 sec. Subsequent - 2 sec. On Late 2006 MacBook - 2.0GHz Core 2 Duo -2GB Ram - 7200rpm HDD After system reboot - 18 sec. Subsequent - 4.5 sec. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org