Re: Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

2016-09-28 Thread Formsbirds
Hello,

Thank for your kind response. 


We prefer to re-enable our account susie...@yandex.com. Since you are busy with 
the new revision release, We will clean up the templates by ourselves. Please 
just recover the account.
Thank you very much!


Regards,
Katie Williams

 On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:54:16 -0700 Andrea Pescetti 
pesce...@apache.org wrote  

On 24/09/2016 Dave Fisher wrote: 
 Someone of the DEV team may have access to templates and extensions sites 
which are hosted at sourceforge by agreement with the Apache OpenOffice PMC. 
 Can someone help? 
 
As I wrote to the dev list last month, a number of PMC members have 
access as moderators. So I think any of us (me included) can remove content. 
 
Still, we are wasting our time to help a self-admitted abuser get their 
templates removed since they discovered their voluntary abuse will 
penalize them in search engines. 
 
Wouldn't it make more sense if the account is re-enabled and they clean 
up after themselves? This could speed things up, since I won't have time 
to look into this before version 4.1.3 is released - possibly next week, 
but if they really are in a hurry they might want to take care of this 
themselves as soon as possible. Formbirds, if you prefer this option 
just tell us. 
 
Regards, 
 Andrea. 








Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

2016-09-28 Thread Martin Groenescheij
To my honest opinion the template website is one big mess, over 23 
thousand templates

from which many are menu cards, price lists and store locators.
I believe Google is the place to find this type of information.
Templates should be templates and not an alternative to advertise products.

Probably submitters should periodically confirm the validity of the 
template and if not

confirmed go into archive mode.

On 28/09/16 9:54 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 24/09/2016 Dave Fisher wrote:
Someone of the DEV team may have access to templates and extensions 
sites which are hosted at sourceforge by agreement with the Apache 
OpenOffice PMC.

Can someone help?


As I wrote to the dev list last month, a number of PMC members have 
access as moderators. So I think any of us (me included) can remove 
content.


Still, we are wasting our time to help a self-admitted abuser get 
their templates removed since they discovered their voluntary abuse 
will penalize them in search engines.


Wouldn't it make more sense if the account is re-enabled and they 
clean up after themselves? This could speed things up, since I won't 
have time to look into this before version 4.1.3 is released - 
possibly next week, but if they really are in a hurry they might want 
to take care of this themselves as soon as possible. Formbirds, if you 
prefer this option just tell us.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

2016-09-27 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2016-09-28 1:54 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti :

> On 24/09/2016 Dave Fisher wrote:
>
>> Someone of the DEV team may have access to templates and extensions sites
>> which are hosted at sourceforge by agreement with the Apache OpenOffice PMC.
>> Can someone help?
>>
>
> As I wrote to the dev list last month, a number of PMC members have access
> as moderators. So I think any of us (me included) can remove content.
>
> Still, we are wasting our time to help a self-admitted abuser get their
> templates removed since they discovered their voluntary abuse will penalize
> them in search engines.
>

I concur to that, I've seen similar requests coming from hundreds of open
source projects in my past business life. Let's be very clear about what
the problem REALLY is:

1. "SEO experts" got hired, lots of links get set here and there
2. The customer realize via Google search tools that hurt THEM
3. They ask you to clean up their own garbage
4. Classic mantra: by cleaning your site your Google karma will benefit

Now, those links do not affect AOOE/T Google karma in any measurable
manner, and considering that those templates are of little interest to our
audience (0 downloads) I believe that also associated links don't get
clicked.



>
> Wouldn't it make more sense if the account is re-enabled and they clean up
> after themselves? This could speed things up, since I won't have time to
> look into this before version 4.1.3 is released - possibly next week, but
> if they really are in a hurry they might want to take care of this
> themselves as soon as possible.


Let's leave to them to clean them up, we probably just need to give their
spammer account the possibility to do so. Interesting to notice the account
was suspended, all in all anti-spam measures have been improved! ;-)

Roberto



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>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
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Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

2016-09-27 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 24/09/2016 Dave Fisher wrote:

Someone of the DEV team may have access to templates and extensions sites which 
are hosted at sourceforge by agreement with the Apache OpenOffice PMC.
Can someone help?


As I wrote to the dev list last month, a number of PMC members have 
access as moderators. So I think any of us (me included) can remove content.


Still, we are wasting our time to help a self-admitted abuser get their 
templates removed since they discovered their voluntary abuse will 
penalize them in search engines.


Wouldn't it make more sense if the account is re-enabled and they clean 
up after themselves? This could speed things up, since I won't have time 
to look into this before version 4.1.3 is released - possibly next week, 
but if they really are in a hurry they might want to take care of this 
themselves as soon as possible. Formbirds, if you prefer this option 
just tell us.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

2016-09-26 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2016-09-26 17:03 GMT+02:00 Dave Brondsema :

> Hi,
>
> Short answer: we'll take a look and see what we can do.
>
> For reference, the Templates site is managed through the
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/aoo-templates/ project on SourceForge.
> Web
> hosting documentation here:
> https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/documentation/Project%20Web%20Services/
> Gav and
> Andrea Pescetti ("aooadmin") have access to the project, and we can add
> more.
> Similarly the extensions site is run through the "aoo-extensions" project
> with
> same admins plus Roberto too.  I don't see an OOOUSERS wiki page
> documenting
> this, perhaps I can create one soon.
>
> I do see quite a bit of spam and blank/forbidden items on the templates
> site, so
> it does need some cleanup for sure.
>
> We do have some Drupal experience inhouse at SourceForge, I can talk with
> our
> team and see how soon we can get in there and address this formsbirds.com
> request, as well as maybe a bit more cleanup.
>
> Andrea, if you're reading this, do you have any pointers regarding the
> administration of the extensions/templates?  I think you've done most of
> the
> work on them in the past.  Our in-house guys can probably help out but
> aren't
> familiar with the specifics of these sites at all.
>

I've reached out to Andrea already, but he is not around until Thursday or
so.
I think it's a good idea to let your guys get familiar with both AOOE/AOOT,
and don't forget to invite them to join us over here, they'd be welcome!

Thanks,

Roberto




>
> -Dave
>
> On 9/25/16 2:31 PM, Marcus wrote:
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > in a previous mail this month you have written that you are available
> for help
> > in case of topics that belogs to Sourceforge. Actually we have now a
> case that
> > needs to be worked on on your side.
> >
> > Like reported below they have a problem with redirected links from
> > "templates.openoffice.org" that comes from a blocked user account.
> >
> > It would be great if you can contact the support team of Formbirds.com to
> > coordinate what could be done.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Marcus
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 09/25/2016 04:51 PM, schrieb Formsbirds:
> >> Dear Webmaster,
> >>
> >> I'm writing to ask for adding "Nofollow" tag to the links that pointed
> to my
> >> site - formsbirds.com or remove them completely.
> >> We found thousands of links pointed to our site from
> templates.openoffice.org.
> >> The links are under an account named susie...@yandex.com.
> >> This was caused by a SEO team we hired. We want to get our templates
> shared to
> >> more users via your site and hired a SEO team to upload our templates
> to your
> >> site. But they are too aggressive and put too many links inside.
> >> Now we found thousands of backlinks from your site, which are actually
> bad to
> >> our site.
> >> We have contacted the SEO team to remove the links under the user
> >> accountsusie...@yandex.com, while they told us the account had been
> blocked
> >> and they couldn't log in to delete the links.
> >> We ask for the removal of all the links, or just add "nofollow" tag to
> those
> >> links pointed to our website from your side. You can still keep the
> documents
> >> that have uploaded at your website if those templates ate useful to
> users, but
> >> please delete the links pointed to our site.
> >> Katie Williams
> >> Formsbirds.com
> >
>
>
>
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Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

2016-09-26 Thread Dave Brondsema
Hi,

Short answer: we'll take a look and see what we can do.

For reference, the Templates site is managed through the
https://sourceforge.net/projects/aoo-templates/ project on SourceForge.  Web
hosting documentation here:
https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/documentation/Project%20Web%20Services/  Gav and
Andrea Pescetti ("aooadmin") have access to the project, and we can add more.
Similarly the extensions site is run through the "aoo-extensions" project with
same admins plus Roberto too.  I don't see an OOOUSERS wiki page documenting
this, perhaps I can create one soon.

I do see quite a bit of spam and blank/forbidden items on the templates site, so
it does need some cleanup for sure.

We do have some Drupal experience inhouse at SourceForge, I can talk with our
team and see how soon we can get in there and address this formsbirds.com
request, as well as maybe a bit more cleanup.

Andrea, if you're reading this, do you have any pointers regarding the
administration of the extensions/templates?  I think you've done most of the
work on them in the past.  Our in-house guys can probably help out but aren't
familiar with the specifics of these sites at all.

-Dave

On 9/25/16 2:31 PM, Marcus wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> in a previous mail this month you have written that you are available for help
> in case of topics that belogs to Sourceforge. Actually we have now a case that
> needs to be worked on on your side.
> 
> Like reported below they have a problem with redirected links from
> "templates.openoffice.org" that comes from a blocked user account.
> 
> It would be great if you can contact the support team of Formbirds.com to
> coordinate what could be done.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
> Am 09/25/2016 04:51 PM, schrieb Formsbirds:
>> Dear Webmaster,
>>
>> I'm writing to ask for adding "Nofollow" tag to the links that pointed to my
>> site - formsbirds.com or remove them completely.
>> We found thousands of links pointed to our site from 
>> templates.openoffice.org.
>> The links are under an account named susie...@yandex.com.
>> This was caused by a SEO team we hired. We want to get our templates shared 
>> to
>> more users via your site and hired a SEO team to upload our templates to your
>> site. But they are too aggressive and put too many links inside.
>> Now we found thousands of backlinks from your site, which are actually bad to
>> our site.
>> We have contacted the SEO team to remove the links under the user
>> accountsusie...@yandex.com, while they told us the account had been blocked
>> and they couldn't log in to delete the links.
>> We ask for the removal of all the links, or just add "nofollow" tag to those
>> links pointed to our website from your side. You can still keep the documents
>> that have uploaded at your website if those templates ate useful to users, 
>> but
>> please delete the links pointed to our site.
>> Katie Williams
>> Formsbirds.com
> 



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Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

2016-09-25 Thread Marcus

Hi Dave,

in a previous mail this month you have written that you are available 
for help in case of topics that belogs to Sourceforge. Actually we have 
now a case that needs to be worked on on your side.


Like reported below they have a problem with redirected links from 
"templates.openoffice.org" that comes from a blocked user account.


It would be great if you can contact the support team of Formbirds.com 
to coordinate what could be done.


Thanks in advance.

Marcus



Am 09/25/2016 04:51 PM, schrieb Formsbirds:

Dear Webmaster,

I'm writing to ask for adding "Nofollow" tag to the links that pointed to my 
site - formsbirds.com or remove them completely.
We found thousands of links pointed to our site from templates.openoffice.org. 
The links are under an account named susie...@yandex.com.
This was caused by a SEO team we hired. We want to get our templates shared to 
more users via your site and hired a SEO team to upload our templates to your 
site. But they are too aggressive and put too many links inside.
Now we found thousands of backlinks from your site, which are actually bad to 
our site.
We have contacted the SEO team to remove the links under the user 
accountsusie...@yandex.com, while they told us the account had been blocked and 
they couldn't log in to delete the links.
We ask for the removal of all the links, or just add "nofollow" tag to those 
links pointed to our website from your side. You can still keep the documents that have 
uploaded at your website if those templates ate useful to users, but please delete the 
links pointed to our site.
Katie Williams
Formsbirds.com


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Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

2016-09-25 Thread Marcus

Am 09/25/2016 07:11 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:



On 9/25/2016 9:04 AM, Simon Phipps wrote:

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Patricia Shanahan  wrote:


We do need to get control of templates.openoffice.org, either direct
control or a SourceForge contact to whom we can pass this sort of
request.



More than that, the site looks like it has more than just the OP using it
for SEO. Read through the (presumably automated) postings on
twitter.com/aootemplates and there is a very troubling sequence of
unvarnished SEO/promo template postings. Looks to me like it needs some
sort of a review phase before new contributions are accepted.



Back in the great OpenOffice Retirement thread, we got an email from
Dave Brondsema, "Allura VP and employee at SourceForge", offering to
help with SourceForge contacts. See
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/854e93173cba65786e35588b2b00b4d9c5c383591a7ecf46aa3e16bd@%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E


This might be the time to ask him for help? Perhaps Marcus as PMC Chair?


not a typical task for a chair. But I will connect both parties so that 
direct help is possible.


Marcus


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Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

2016-09-25 Thread Patricia Shanahan



On 9/25/2016 9:04 AM, Simon Phipps wrote:

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Patricia Shanahan  wrote:


We do need to get control of templates.openoffice.org, either direct
control or a SourceForge contact to whom we can pass this sort of request.



More than that, the site looks like it has more than just the OP using it
for SEO. Read through the (presumably automated) postings on
twitter.com/aootemplates and there is a very troubling sequence of
unvarnished SEO/promo template postings. Looks to me like it needs some
sort of a review phase before new contributions are accepted.



Back in the great OpenOffice Retirement thread, we got an email from 
Dave Brondsema, "Allura VP and employee at SourceForge", offering to 
help with SourceForge contacts. See 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/854e93173cba65786e35588b2b00b4d9c5c383591a7ecf46aa3e16bd@%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E


This might be the time to ask him for help? Perhaps Marcus as PMC Chair?

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Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

2016-09-25 Thread Simon Phipps
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Patricia Shanahan  wrote:

> We do need to get control of templates.openoffice.org, either direct
> control or a SourceForge contact to whom we can pass this sort of request.


More than that, the site looks like it has more than just the OP using it
for SEO. Read through the (presumably automated) postings on
twitter.com/aootemplates and there is a very troubling sequence of
unvarnished SEO/promo template postings. Looks to me like it needs some
sort of a review phase before new contributions are accepted.

S.


Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

2016-09-25 Thread Patricia Shanahan
We do need to get control of templates.openoffice.org, either direct 
control or a SourceForge contact to whom we can pass this sort of request.


On 9/25/2016 7:51 AM, Formsbirds wrote:

Dear Webmaster,

I'm writing to ask for adding "Nofollow" tag to the links that pointed to my 
site - formsbirds.com or remove them completely.
We found thousands of links pointed to our site from templates.openoffice.org. 
The links are under an account named susie...@yandex.com.
This was caused by a SEO team we hired. We want to get our templates shared to 
more users via your site and hired a SEO team to upload our templates to your 
site. But they are too aggressive and put too many links inside.
Now we found thousands of backlinks from your site, which are actually bad to 
our site.
We have contacted the SEO team to remove the links under the user 
accountsusie...@yandex.com, while they told us the account had been blocked and 
they couldn't log in to delete the links.
We ask for the removal of all the links, or just add "nofollow" tag to those 
links pointed to our website from your side. You can still keep the documents that have 
uploaded at your website if those templates ate useful to users, but please delete the 
links pointed to our site.
Katie Williams
Formsbirds.com






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Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

2016-09-25 Thread Formsbirds
Dear Webmaster, 

I'm writing to ask for adding "Nofollow" tag to the links that pointed to my 
site - formsbirds.com or remove them completely. 
We found thousands of links pointed to our site from templates.openoffice.org. 
The links are under an account named susie...@yandex.com. 
This was caused by a SEO team we hired. We want to get our templates shared to 
more users via your site and hired a SEO team to upload our templates to your 
site. But they are too aggressive and put too many links inside. 
Now we found thousands of backlinks from your site, which are actually bad to 
our site.
We have contacted the SEO team to remove the links under the user 
accountsusie...@yandex.com, while they told us the account had been blocked and 
they couldn't log in to delete the links. 
We ask for the removal of all the links, or just add "nofollow" tag to those 
links pointed to our website from your side. You can still keep the documents 
that have uploaded at your website if those templates ate useful to users, but 
please delete the links pointed to our site. 
Katie Williams 
Formsbirds.com 





Re: Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

2016-09-24 Thread Formsbirds
Hello,

Please help me with this. Those links are bad to our website and Google may 
publish my site due to the vast number of backlinks from openoffice. I don't 
know who to contact regarding this issue. Please forward this email to the team 
or person in charge of it. Thank you!

 On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 10:54:39 -0700 Dave Fisher 
dave2w...@comcast.net wrote  

Hi - 
 
Someone of the DEV team may have access to templates and extensions sites which 
are hosted at sourceforge by agreement with the Apache OpenOffice PMC. 
 
Can someone help? 
 
Regards, 
Dave 
 
Sent from my iPhone 
 
 On Sep 24, 2016, at 5:34 AM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com 
wrote: 
 
 You sent this to a mail list for users of Apache Open Office. We have 
 nothing to do with the web site. 
 
 
 On 09/23/2016 11:24 PM, Formsbirds wrote: 
 Dear Webmaster, 
 
 I'm writing to ask for adding "Nofollow" tag to the links that pointed 
to my site - formsbirds.com or remove them completely. 
 We found thousands of links pointed to our site from 
templates.openoffice.org. The links are under an account named 
susie...@yandex.com. 
 This was caused by a SEO team we hired. We want to get our templates 
shared to more users via your site and hired a SEO team to upload our templates 
to your site. But they are too aggressive and put too many links inside. 
 Now we found thousands of backlinks from your site, which are actually 
bad to our site. 
 We have contacted the SEO team to remove the links under the user 
account susie...@yandex.com, while they told us the account had been blocked 
and they couldn't log in to delete the links. 
 We ask for the removal of all the links, or just add "nofollow" tag to 
those links pointed to our website from your side. You can still keep the 
documents that have uploaded at your website if those templates ate useful to 
users, but please delete the links pointed to our site. 
 Katie Williams 
 Formsbirds.com 
 
 
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Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

2016-09-24 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi -

Someone of the DEV team may have access to templates and extensions sites which 
are hosted at sourceforge by agreement with the Apache OpenOffice PMC.

Can someone help?

Regards,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2016, at 5:34 AM, James Knott  wrote:
> 
> You sent this to a mail list for users of Apache Open Office.  We have
> nothing to do with the web site.
> 
> 
>> On 09/23/2016 11:24 PM, Formsbirds wrote:
>> Dear Webmaster,
>> 
>> I'm writing to ask for adding "Nofollow" tag to the links that pointed to my 
>> site - formsbirds.com or remove them completely. 
>> We found thousands of links pointed to our site from 
>> templates.openoffice.org. The links are under an account named 
>> susie...@yandex.com.
>> This was caused by a SEO team we hired. We want to get our templates shared 
>> to more users via your site and hired a SEO team to upload our templates to 
>> your site. But they are too aggressive and put too many links inside.
>> Now we found thousands of backlinks from your site, which are actually bad 
>> to our site. 
>> We have contacted the SEO team to remove the links under the user account 
>> susie...@yandex.com, while they told us the account had been blocked and 
>> they couldn't log in to delete the links.
>> We ask for the removal of all the links, or just add "nofollow" tag to those 
>> links pointed to our website from your side. You can still keep the 
>> documents that have uploaded at your website if those templates ate useful 
>> to users, but please delete the links pointed to our site.
>> Katie Williams
>> Formsbirds.com
> 
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RE: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

2016-09-24 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC us...@openoffice.apache.org]

> -Original Message-
> From: James Knott [mailto:james.kn...@rogers.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 05:35
> To: us...@openoffice.apache.org; supp...@formbirds.com
> Subject: Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at
> Openoffice
> 
> You sent this to a mail list for users of Apache Open Office.  We have
> nothing to do with the web site.
[orcmid] 

http://templates.openoffice.org is definitely found at the web site that is 
operated by the Apache OpenOffice project.  It makes sense that the project 
would be contacted.

However, the templates portion is operated by SourceForge.   

Unfortunately, this page is not helpful enough:
.

Someone who knows more about how to change entries or to delete them needs to 
be involved.

I am moving this to dev@ openoffice.org where it is more likely someone can 
help.

 - Dennis



> 
> 
> On 09/23/2016 11:24 PM, Formsbirds wrote:
> > Dear Webmaster,
> >
> > I'm writing to ask for adding "Nofollow" tag to the links that pointed
> to my site - formsbirds.com or remove them completely.
> > We found thousands of links pointed to our site from
> templates.openoffice.org. The links are under an account named
> susie...@yandex.com.
> > This was caused by a SEO team we hired. We want to get our templates
> shared to more users via your site and hired a SEO team to upload our
> templates to your site. But they are too aggressive and put too many
> links inside.
> > Now we found thousands of backlinks from your site, which are actually
> bad to our site.
> > We have contacted the SEO team to remove the links under the user
> account susie...@yandex.com, while they told us the account had been
> blocked and they couldn't log in to delete the links.
> > We ask for the removal of all the links, or just add "nofollow" tag to
> those links pointed to our website from your side. You can still keep
> the documents that have uploaded at your website if those templates ate
> useful to users, but please delete the links pointed to our site.
> > Katie Williams
> > Formsbirds.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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