Re: [dev] Should assertions abort?

2010-02-15 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 02/12/10 17:18, Christian Lippka wrote: If you change code at one place, you may cause an assertion to trigger at another place. Since triggered assertions indicate programming errors, the above sentence is equivalent to If you change code at one place, you may introduce a programming

Re: [dev] Should assertions abort?

2010-02-15 Thread Ingrid Halama
On 02/15/10 10:16, Stephan Bergmann wrote: On 02/12/10 17:18, Christian Lippka wrote: If you change code at one place, you may cause an assertion to trigger at another place. Since triggered assertions indicate programming errors, the above sentence is equivalent to If you change code at one

Re: [dev] Should assertions abort?

2010-02-15 Thread Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany
Hi Stephan, Not necessarily. The point is that triggered assertions need to be sufficiently rare. Okay, perhaps we can agree to strive for this goal first, and postpone the rest of the discussion. Perhaps we can try aborting discussions, and see how they work, perhaps we have other ideas

Re: [dev] Should assertions abort?

2010-02-15 Thread Mathias Bauer
Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany wrote: Hi Bjoern, Assertions should be tested with the common tests (cwscheckapi has decent code coverage) preventing the non-pro master to become unusable. Ah! Did you know that testtool, the program for running automated UI level tests on

[dev] ANNOUNCEMENT: OOO320 release code line goes Mercurial

2010-02-15 Thread Jens-Heiner Rechtien
ANNOUNCEMENT: OOO320 release code line goes Mercurial = With the OOo 3.2 release safely out of the door we'll switch the OOO320 release code line (or rather now: maintenance code line) to Mercurial. The next milestone on this code line will

Re: [dev] Should assertions abort?

2010-02-15 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Mathias, On Monday, 2010-02-15 12:34:10 +0100, Mathias Bauer wrote: startup would become ~6% larger by converting all #ifdef DBG_UTIL to if (bDBG_UTIL==true). The influence on startup performance would be a little bit less than this 6%, but probably measurable. [...] bDBG_UTIL would be

Re: [dev] Should assertions abort?

2010-02-15 Thread Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany
Hi Mathias, I tend to like the idea of using non-pro builds in QA, but we must recall why we have stopped to do that in the past. RĂ¼diger mentioned the performance problem, maybe there have been others. Would be interesting to know. The only thing I heard in the past whenever I asked is, hmm,

[dev] Problem with building Open Office from mercurial

2010-02-15 Thread Lukasz Szczygielek
Hi! I have a problem. Yesterday I tried to build Open Office from source. I made clone by mercurial: hg clone http://hg.services.openoffice.org/DEV300 local_DEV300 I started to build following this guide: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_on_Linux

Re: [dev] Should assertions abort?

2010-02-15 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Mathias Bauer wrote: The idea is the unification of pro and non-pro build. We have discussed that only as an idea to save time in release engineering and a nice opportunity for additional diagnostic abilities for customer problems, but maybe it can help in our current discussion also. Please