Re: [dev] How to keep users away from Base

2005-07-21 Thread Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germa ny
Hi Matthias, I've just tested m118 without Base and I like the feature set. I especially like the reduced Base dialog that allows the user to edit existing databases and to use existing queries but does not allow saving to another file, creating new tables or queries etc. From the POV of our

Re: [dev] How to keep users away from Base

2005-07-21 Thread Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germa ny
Hi Sophie, Huh? Sorry, what tables do you want to drag'n'drop in this dialog? Not in the new toolsoptionsbase dialog, but we are not able any more to copy a table from one db to another by a simple drag'n drop in the DSB, or is it a bug ? Issue 39146, targeted for 2.0.1 :) You can still

Re: [dev] How to keep users away from Base

2005-07-21 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Frank, Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany wrote: Hi Sophie, Huh? Sorry, what tables do you want to drag'n'drop in this dialog? Not in the new toolsoptionsbase dialog, but we are not able any more to copy a table from one db to another by a simple drag'n drop in the DSB, or is

Re: [dev] How to keep users away from Base

2005-07-21 Thread Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germa ny
Hi Matthias, One could manually de-register certain UNO services, so that certain functionality becomes unavailable. How do I do that? The following snippet exemplarily disables the query design, but de-registering the service which implements it: Dim oPathSubst as Object oPathSubst =

Re: [dev] How to keep users away from Base

2005-07-21 Thread Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germa ny
Hi Matthias, I've just deregistered /IMPLEMENTATIONS/org.openoffice.comp.dbu.OApplicationController and that seems to get rid of the complete Base UI. Can you think of any bad side effects this may have? Is this controller used for any other services we might need? Nope. BTW, is there a

Re: [dev] How to keep users away from Base

2005-07-21 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Hi, Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany wrote: Hi Matthias, I've just deregistered /IMPLEMENTATIONS/org.openoffice.comp.dbu.OApplicationController and that seems to get rid of the complete Base UI. Can you think of any bad side effects this may have? Is this controller used for any

Re: [dev] How to keep users away from Base

2005-07-20 Thread Frank Schönheit
See [1] for details. And here comes the missing footnote [1] http://specs.openoffice.org/installation/optional_base_module.odt Ciao Frank - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: [dev] How to keep users away from Base

2005-07-20 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Frank, all, Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany wrote: Hi Matthias, For instance, it would be a good start to remove Database from the quickstarter pop-up and the File/New dialog. How would I do that? Latest builds have a possibility to remove Base from the installation during

Re: [dev] How to keep users away from Base

2005-07-20 Thread Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germa ny
Hi Sophie, As I understand it, not every body will want to use Base (HSQLDB integration) but still want to access their external database (like MySQL/SQLite/etc.) without using Base (the database environment). Am I right in using the same word ? Ehm, well. Terminology is in fact not clear

Re: [dev] How to keep users away from Base

2005-07-20 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Frank, Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany wrote: Hi Sophie, As I understand it, not every body will want to use Base (HSQLDB integration) but still want to access their external database (like MySQL/SQLite/etc.) without using Base (the database environment). Am I right in using

Re: [dev] How to keep users away from Base

2005-07-20 Thread Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germa ny
Hello Sophie-who-is-never-happy ;-) The fact that in usual installations, the DSB contains less registered data sources than in OOo 1.x, can be worked around by, well, Tools|Options|Databases (and note that if you create a .odb file, the wizard usually automatically registeres it for you, if you

Re: [dev] How to keep users away from Base

2005-07-20 Thread Matthias Benkmann
Hallo Frank, For now, this basically only implies that the New database entries are removed from various places, including the ones you mentioned. Additionally, the data source browser (F4) is removed, I've just tested m118 without Base and I like the feature set. I especially like the

Re: [dev] How to keep users away from Base

2005-07-20 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Frank , Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany wrote: Hello Sophie-who-is-never-happy ;-) :) The fact that in usual installations, the DSB contains less registered data sources than in OOo 1.x, can be worked around by, well, Tools|Options|Databases (and note that if you create a

Re: [dev] How to keep users away from Base

2005-07-20 Thread Christian Junker
Hi Matthias, there are some new API features available in 2.0 and one of them would certainly be of great benefit to you: programmatic GUI-control, meaning full control over menu items and toolbars. Recently there were some talks on [EMAIL PROTECTED] about those new things, as you can check when

[dev] How to keep users away from Base

2005-07-19 Thread Matthias Benkmann
I'd like to rephrase my question from yesterday regarding local databases: Where I work we have a policy that says users are not supposed to keep their own databases. Sophisticated users will, of course, always find a way, but we'd like to at least remove all the obvious GUI ways to use local