Re: [dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-07-18 Thread Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg
Hi Mathias, Mathias Bauer wrote: Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg wrote: IMHO the only reason that 1.3.1 still is the baseline is that nobody took care of raising it. And by now nobody has raised any objections Well, both is not true. Please go back to the beginning of this thread. ???

Re: [dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-07-16 Thread Mathias Bauer
Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg wrote: IMHO the only reason that 1.3.1 still is the baseline is that nobody took care of raising it. And by now nobody has raised any objections Well, both is not true. Please go back to the beginning of this thread. Ciao, Mathias -- Mathias Bauer (mba) -

Re: [dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-07-14 Thread Stephan Bergmann
Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg wrote: Hi Rony, I did start the discussions regarding Java version, OpenJDK, baseline etc. on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for not announcing it here. Reason for [EMAIL PROTECTED] is, that all stakeholders from the last agreement originally were on that alias.

Re: [dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-07-14 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
Stephan Bergmann wrote: Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg wrote: Hi Rony, I did start the discussions regarding Java version, OpenJDK, baseline etc. on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for not announcing it here. Reason for [EMAIL PROTECTED] is, that all stakeholders from the last agreement

RE: [dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-07-14 Thread Daan de Wit
From: Rony G. Flatscher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:16 To: dev@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5 Stephan Bergmann wrote: Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg wrote: Hi Rony, I did start

Re: [dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-07-14 Thread Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg
Stephan, Stephan Bergmann wrote: Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg wrote: Hi Rony, I did start the discussions regarding Java version, OpenJDK, baseline etc. on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for not announcing it here. Reason for [EMAIL PROTECTED] is, that all stakeholders from the last agreement

Re: [dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-07-13 Thread Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg
Hi Rony, I did start the discussions regarding Java version, OpenJDK, baseline etc. on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for not announcing it here. Reason for [EMAIL PROTECTED] is, that all stakeholders from the last agreement originally were on that alias. Regards Kay Rony G.

Re: [dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-07-13 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
Hi Kay, I did start the discussions regarding Java version, OpenJDK, baseline etc. on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for not announcing it here. Reason for [EMAIL PROTECTED] is, that all stakeholders from the last agreement originally were on that alias. Thank you very much for this clarification!

Re: [dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-07-13 Thread Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg
Rony, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: Hi Kay, I did start the discussions regarding Java version, OpenJDK, baseline etc. on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for not announcing it here. Reason for [EMAIL PROTECTED] is, that all stakeholders from the last agreement originally were on that alias. Thank you

Re: [dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-07-13 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
Hi Kay, I did start the discussions regarding Java version, OpenJDK, baseline etc. on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for not announcing it here. Reason for [EMAIL PROTECTED] is, that all stakeholders from the last agreement originally were on that alias. Thank you very much for this clarification!

[dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-07-11 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
Hi there, just noticed that running DEV300/m23 with Java 1.4 does not work anymore: - cut here - E:\rony\dev\bsf\src\bintestOOo.rex Exception in thread main java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: com/sun/star/comp/helper/Bootstrap (Unsupported major.minor version 49.0)

Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-05-09 Thread Mathias Bauer
Hi all, Christoph Neumann wrote: Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg wrote: Stephan Bergmann wrote: Malte Timmermann wrote: My point of view: Most people agree that OOo mustn't loose (meta) data when Java is not available, but plug ins for working with meta data can rely on Java. Changing

Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-05-07 Thread Christoph Neumann
Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg wrote: Stephan Bergmann wrote: Malte Timmermann wrote: My point of view: Most people agree that OOo mustn't loose (meta) data when Java is not available, but plug ins for working with meta data can rely on Java. Changing OOo's Java base line from 1.4 to 1.5

Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-03-17 Thread Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg
Stephan Bergmann wrote: Malte Timmermann wrote: My point of view: Most people agree that OOo mustn't loose (meta) data when Java is not available, but plug ins for working with meta data can rely on Java. Changing OOo's Java base line from 1.4 to 1.5 is fine for most people then. AFAIK the

Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-03-08 Thread Clemens Eisserer
what are your opinions on making java 1.5 a requirement for OOo 3.0? I think in general its a good idea - it also will guarantee that OOo users that will install plugins written in java will also most likely will have java-1.5 installed. Because the metadata thing is something optional, the

Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-03-07 Thread Stephan Bergmann
Malte Timmermann wrote: My point of view: Most people agree that OOo mustn't loose (meta) data when Java is not available, but plug ins for working with meta data can rely on Java. Changing OOo's Java base line from 1.4 to 1.5 is fine for most people then. AFAIK the current Java baseline is

Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-03-07 Thread Caolan McNamara
On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 16:39 +0100, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: Taking all of this into account it seems to be a very attractive goal to create (or employ thired party) libraries in Java as that would truly help to cut down porting costs, as usually you won't have no porting costs with Java.

Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-03-06 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hi, well, I was wondering where we were standing on this issue.. Best, Charles. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-03-06 Thread Malte Timmermann
My point of view: Most people agree that OOo mustn't loose (meta) data when Java is not available, but plug ins for working with meta data can rely on Java. Changing OOo's Java base line from 1.4 to 1.5 is fine for most people then. Malte. Charles-H. Schulz wrote, On 03/06/08 18:02: Hi,

Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-03-06 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hi, Le 6 mars 08 à 18:09, Malte Timmermann a écrit : My point of view: Most people agree that OOo mustn't loose (meta) data when Java is not available, but plug ins for working with meta data can rely on Java. Changing OOo's Java base line from 1.4 to 1.5 is fine for most people then. +1

Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-03-04 Thread Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany
Hi Hubert, I don't know if you have noticed, but they are been several request from people to have OOo ported to embedded devices like Maemo and iPhone, for which Java is likely to be an even bigger problem. Come on. When we ever port OOo to one of those platforms, Java is one of our smallest

Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-03-04 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hi, Le 4 mars 08 à 15:23, Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany a écrit : Hi Hubert, I don't know if you have noticed, but they are been several request from people to have OOo ported to embedded devices like Maemo and iPhone, for which Java is likely to be an even bigger problem.

Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-03-04 Thread Mathias Bauer
Hubert Figuiere wrote: Again, making Java required for core components bring unnecessary bloat. RDFa and meta text field will be handled by C++ code in xmloff anyway. We are talking about RDF-XML only. And I reiterate my point that RDF-XML is *not* core functionality of OOo. Ciao, Mathias --

Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-03-04 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
Hi there, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Le 4 mars 08 à 15:23, Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany a écrit : Hi Hubert, I don't know if you have noticed, but they are been several request from people to have OOo ported to embedded devices like Maemo and iPhone, for which Java is likely

Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-03-03 Thread Hubert Figuiere
On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 15:37 +0100, Michael Stahl wrote: what are your opinions on making java 1.5 a requirement for OOo 3.0? Unfavorable. (this is a personal opinion) OOo is often strongly criticized by its weight (bloat) and slowliness (bloat). This would just add to it. I always considered

Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-03-03 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hi, Le 3 mars 08 à 15:59, Hubert Figuiere a écrit : On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 15:37 +0100, Michael Stahl wrote: what are your opinions on making java 1.5 a requirement for OOo 3.0? Unfavorable. (this is a personal opinion) If -and only if- this question is framed in that way, I am also

Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-03-03 Thread Malte Timmermann
Thorsten Behrens wrote, On 03/03/08 17:21: On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 04:08:16PM +0100, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 15:37 +0100, Michael Stahl wrote: what are your opinions on making java 1.5 a requirement for OOo 3.0? Unfavorable. (this is a personal opinion) If -and only

Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-03-03 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 15:37 +0100, Michael Stahl wrote: what are your opinions on making java 1.5 a requirement for OOo 3.0? Heck no way! -- Kohei Yoshida - OpenOffice.org Engineer - Novell, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To

Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-03-03 Thread Juergen Schmidt
Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Hi, Le 3 mars 08 à 17:57, Malte Timmermann a écrit : Seems we have to distinguish here a little bit: It is NOT acceptable for me if I (silently) loose the meta data when not having Java. Data must be kept when loading/manipulating/storing the doc, and the user should

Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-03-03 Thread Hubert Figuiere
On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 18:24 +0100, Mathias Bauer wrote: In case anyone came up with a useful, professional and maintained alternative that is guaranteed to run at least on the four main platforms we could have a look on it. Without that I'd prefer to utilize Sesame. Of course somebody else

Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-03-03 Thread Mathias Bauer
Hubert Figuiere wrote: On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 18:24 +0100, Mathias Bauer wrote: In case anyone came up with a useful, professional and maintained alternative that is guaranteed to run at least on the four main platforms we could have a look on it. Without that I'd prefer to utilize Sesame.