[dev] Re: Mac OS X Snow Leopard and 64bit...
Hi, I think that using 10.4 SDK is required to build a working OO.o. I cannot remember now, it has been a few months since I built on Mac (it was 3.2.1). I tried to build OO.o with 10.6 SDK and gcc 4.2.1 and OO.o then crashed during smoketest. Pavel Dne 1.4.2011 18:56, Pavel Janík napsal(a): Hi, On 1.4.2011, at 15:02, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Building 32bit version, but not targeting 10.4 is a waste of ressources IMHO. Why would you want to create builds that won't run on the baseline system? I'd like the build to be extended with: - autodetecting the lowest available SDK. It is nonsense to hardcode 10.4u for people, who: a. have default Xcode install (ie. no 10.4u) b. want to build for themself only c. want to save diskspace and do not install 10.4u ;-) - 64bit build Both are interesting I think. -- Pavel Laštovička, Developer OpenOffice.org Specialist blue.point Solutions, s. r. o. tel: +420 777 301 879 fax: +420 412 510 182 Jabber: pavel.lastovi...@blue-point.cz http://www.blue-point.cz IBM Business Partner - Novell Business Partner - Software602 Business Partner -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[dev] Re: Mac OS X Snow Leopard and 64bit...
Hi Pavel, *, 2011/4/4 Pavel Laštovička pavel.lastovi...@blue-point.cz: I think that using 10.4 SDK is required to build a working OO.o. Yes, but that is because it is enforced by the configure and buildscripts, not because of the actual sourcefiles. Those would surely work with a 10.6 SDK as well (well, maybe you get some foo is deprecated warnings). I cannot remember now, it has been a few months since I built on Mac (it was 3.2.1). I tried to build OO.o with 10.6 SDK and gcc 4.2.1 and OO.o then crashed during smoketest. You most likely didn't catch all occurrences that need to be adjusted (a few external modules have it set as well), and smoketest crashing is not something very reliable anyway (unless you're building the exact same milestone). Personally I'm still against relaxing this requirement though. Developers will almost everytime have more recent OS/Buildenvironment than 10.4, thus you will get 10.5/6'isms into the code that will break 10.4 compatibility. Thus when allowing to build with 10.6 as SDK, you're starting the countdown to remove 10.4 support. It is not that OOo would have tons of dedicated Mac programmers that can maintain different codepaths for 10.4 and 10.5 and even a third for 10.6. I mean even tha java awt one is still unfixed. It is hackarounded so that the OOo-supplied beanshell editor/debugger can now be launched, but external extensions are out of luck. The python-question remained without decision (system 2.3 and not being able to use pyuno from outside OOo or ship with interal python) - not even all patches have been applied, let alone taking a decision. But I put my personal focus on LibreOffice anyway (but still run the OOo-MacPPC tinderbox, thus I'll build OOo until it is no longer possible, but I'm no longer actively dealing with the now more-frequent-again build-issues on the milestones - if it breaks, it breaks. If I'm pointed to a patch, I'll apply it, but I won't hunt for the reasons myself anymore) Also telling enough that while the mac@porting list was initially addressed as well, the discussion only continues on dev@porting... The people want to save diskspace argument was written with a smiley, but be honest - when building a beast like OOo, and thus you have to dedicate 8GB for building anyway, you can spare that few megs for the 10.4u sdk, can't you?. As far as I know there is no separate XCode that doesn't include the 10.4u SDK, thus you just have to rerun the installer to install it. my 0,02€ ciao Christian -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[dev] Re: Mac OS X Snow Leopard and 64bit...
Hi, On Apr 1, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Pavel Janík wrote: I'd like the build to be extended with: - autodetecting the lowest available SDK. It is nonsense to hardcode 10.4u for people, who: a. have default Xcode install (ie. no 10.4u) b. want to build for themself only c. want to save diskspace and do not install 10.4u ;-) - 64bit build Both are interesting I think. +1 Mike Sicotte -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[dev] Re: Mac OS X Snow Leopard and 64bit...
Le 1 avr. 11 à 09:21, Pavel Janík a écrit : Hi, Hi Pavel, do we have a plan to support building OOo on Mac OS X Snow Leopard? Unfortunaly, not me : I have no machine running it (nor 10.5 either), and I'll stick to Tiger as long as possible. Just a wild guess, but if things continue the current way, it is not ridiculous to imagine Apple switching to ARM architecture (like MS will do) It has 64bit kernel, ie. platform is x86_64, by default doesn't come with 10.4u SDK (you have to install it, it is optional in Xcode optional install ;-), has 32bit and 64bit producing gccs (gcc 4.0 is producing 32bit and gcc 4.2.1 is producing 64bit binaries. The default one is 4.2.1, but OOo is not ready for 64bit on Mac OS X yet) etc. Do you have a list of what has to be done ? Probably at least a new bridge, but maybe something else ? I put a rough hacks which I use to build 32bit OOo on Snow Leopard to http://tmp.janik.cz/OOo/snowleopard/snowleopard.diff Indeed you should install the missing 10.4 SDK :-) In addition to this, I build with: export CC=ccache /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 export CXX=ccache /usr/bin/g++-4.0 Regards, Eric -- qɔᴉɹə Education Project: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[dev] Re: Mac OS X Snow Leopard and 64bit...
Hi Pavel, 2011/4/1 Pavel Janík pa...@janik.cz: do we have a plan to support building OOo on Mac OS X Snow Leopard? It is suppoerted to build /on/ Snow Leopard. It has 64bit kernel, ie. platform is x86_64, by default doesn't come with 10.4u SDK (you have to install it, it is optional in Xcode optional install ;-), Yes, that's the crucial point. I put a rough hacks which I use to build 32bit OOo on Snow Leopard to Building 32bit version, but not targeting 10.4 is a waste of ressources IMHO. Why would you want to create builds that won't run on the baseline system? ciao Christian -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[dev] Re: Mac OS X Snow Leopard and 64bit...
Hi, On 1.4.2011, at 15:02, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Building 32bit version, but not targeting 10.4 is a waste of ressources IMHO. Why would you want to create builds that won't run on the baseline system? I'd like the build to be extended with: - autodetecting the lowest available SDK. It is nonsense to hardcode 10.4u for people, who: a. have default Xcode install (ie. no 10.4u) b. want to build for themself only c. want to save diskspace and do not install 10.4u ;-) - 64bit build Both are interesting I think. -- Pavel Janík -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
