[dev] Re: Off the records (Ubuntu's LO) ... (Re: Re: Genuine OOo in distributions ? (Re: OOo installation packages for Linux, a few (easy) questions

2011-06-07 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 09:56:35AM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: rene@frodo:~$ find /usr/lib/libreoffice/ -name unoinfo* /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/unoinfo rene@frodo:~$ less /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/unoinfo in Debian, is that what you mean? Good that this script isn't documented

[dev] Re: Off the records (Ubuntu's LO) ... (Re: Re: Genuine OOo in distributions ? (Re: OOo installation packages for Linux, a few (easy) questions

2011-06-07 Thread rony
Hi René, On 07.06.2011 09:56, Rene Engelhard wrote: ... cut ... rene@frodo:~$ find /usr/lib/libreoffice/ -name unoinfo* /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/unoinfo rene@frodo:~$ less /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/unoinfo in Debian, is that what you mean? If yes, then it's interesting why Ubuntu

[dev] Re: Off the records (Ubuntu's LO) ... (Re: Re: Genuine OOo in distributions ? (Re: OOo installation packages for Linux, a few (easy) questions

2011-06-07 Thread Rene Engelhard
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 11:03:00AM +0200, rony wrote: unoinfo java and interestingly unoil.jar is missing! Did a locate unoil.jar after an updatedb, but it is not installed. So this is Obviously totally untrue. I don't think Ubuntu removed unoil.jar, that would break everything Java-ish. Did

[dev] Re: Off the records (Ubuntu's LO) ... (Re: Re: Genuine OOo in distributions ? (Re: OOo installation packages for Linux, a few (easy) questions

2011-06-07 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 17:28:24 +0200 rony ro...@openoffice.org wrote: [... lots of hostile ranting ignored ...] And by the way, if you wanted to be constructive, why did you not supply a link to the place for reporting it? If it was easy to find such a place, I would have reported it

[dev] Re: Off the records (Ubuntu's LO) ... (Re: Re: Genuine OOo in distributions ? (Re: OOo installation packages for Linux, a few (easy) questions

2011-06-07 Thread rony
Hi Bjoern, just saw your e-mail appear now in the list, hence the late answer. Thank you very much for the link! In the meantime further information has become available, thanks to Renés comments, so the installation seems to be (very unfortunate!) intentional (to cripple LO)! :( Regards,

[dev] Re: Off the records (Ubuntu's LO) ... (Re: Re: Genuine OOo in distributions ? (Re: OOo installation packages for Linux, a few (easy) questions

2011-06-07 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 12:28:18PM +0200, rony wrote: This is the story for the current Ubuntu 11.04, plain-vanilla installation, after having gone further: * Ubuntu 11.04 does *not* install any of the Java classes in /usr/lib/libreoffice/basis-link/program/classes,

[dev] Re: Off the records (Ubuntu's LO) ... (Re: Re: Genuine OOo in distributions ? (Re: OOo installation packages for Linux, a few (easy) questions

2011-06-07 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 12:45:09PM +0200, rony wrote: Thank you very much for the link! In the meantime further information has become available, thanks to Renés comments, so the installation seems to be (very unfortunate!) intentional (to cripple LO)! :( There IS NOTHING CRIPPELD. Just

[dev] Re: Off the records (Ubuntu's LO) ... (Re: Re: Genuine OOo in distributions ? (Re: OOo installation packages for Linux, a few (easy) questions

2011-06-07 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 12:28:18 +0200 rony ro...@openoffice.org wrote: This is the story for the current Ubuntu 11.04, plain-vanilla installation Which does not include a full libreoffice installation, as this is unfortunately impossible to fit on the install CD along with the rest of the

[dev] Re: Off the records (Ubuntu's LO) ... (Re: Re: Genuine OOo in distributions ? (Re: OOo installation packages for Linux, a few (easy) questions

2011-06-07 Thread rony
On 07.06.2011 12:53, Rene Engelhard wrote: On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 12:45:09PM +0200, rony wrote: Thank you very much for the link! In the meantime further information has become available, thanks to Renés comments, so the installation seems to be (very unfortunate!) intentional (to cripple

[dev] Re: Off the records (Ubuntu's LO) ... (Re: Re: Genuine OOo in distributions ? (Re: OOo installation packages for Linux, a few (easy) questions

2011-06-07 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 01:52:41PM +0200, rony wrote: If packages deviate from the reference packages (OOo or LO), they get crippled, like it or not. Nonsense. They just ha a bit other structure, the functionality is supposed to be there. Just install the one package you miss.

[dev] Re: Off the records (Ubuntu's LO) ... (Re: Re: Genuine OOo in distributions ? (Re: OOo installation packages for Linux, a few (easy) questions

2011-06-07 Thread rony
Hi René, On 07.06.2011 14:07, Rene Engelhard wrote: Insulting people does not change facts and reality either, but is quite You don't? Aha. I see insults from you too. You cripple XYZ. When we don't. (And you say we do that intentionally, which is also a insult) O.K., I take this one

[dev] Re: Off the records (Ubuntu's LO) ... (Re: Re: Genuine OOo in distributions ? (Re: OOo installation packages for Linux, a few (easy) questions

2011-06-07 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 02:28:53PM +0200, rony wrote: On 07.06.2011 14:07, Rene Engelhard wrote: Insulting people does not change facts and reality either, but is quite You don't? Aha. I see insults from you too. You cripple XYZ. When we don't. (And you say we do that

[dev] Re: Off the records (Ubuntu's LO) ... (Re: Re: Genuine OOo in distributions ? (Re: OOo installation packages for Linux, a few (easy) questions

2011-06-06 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi rony, On Tue, 31 May 2011 19:55:44 +0200 rony ro...@openoffice.org wrote: totally off the records for this list, indeed. but maybe nevertheless interesting/amusing: Ubuntu 11.04 replaced OOo with LibreOffice (LO). thats true. Whatever they did, they probably did what they did with

[dev] Re: Off the records (Ubuntu's LO) ... (Re: Re: Genuine OOo in distributions ? (Re: OOo installation packages for Linux, a few (easy) questions

2011-06-06 Thread rony
Hi Bjoern, On 06.06.2011 12:42, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: Whatever they did, they probably did what they did with their OOo installation in the past with the effect that using the Java interface from the command line does not work (using their unoinfo-output for Java) ! That has