Hi Mathias, *,
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Mathias Bauer wrote:
> Thorsten Ziehm wrote:
>>
>> I do not see the need to bring the build bots near to the build
>> environment here in Hamburg. The request for build bots was (as I know)
>> to have builds in different environments to find build
Rene Engelhard schrieb:
Thorsten Ziehm wrote:
Thorsten Ziehm wrote:
I do not see the need to bring the build bots near to the build
environment here in Hamburg. The request for build bots was (as I know)
to have builds in different environments to find build issues in these
different environm
Hi,
Thorsten Ziehm schrieb:
*No* TestBots are *not* the solution for getting reliable builds.
TestBots are the solution for running automated tests on reliable
builds.
For 'testing' you can take every build you want. I haven't seen builds
of all build bots, but you can use that versions f
Hi Andre,
Andre Schnabel wrote:
Hi,
And for manual testing we will need somehow reliable builds.
If this request is not valid - what is the alternative (how would QA
community get cws builds?)
TestBots should be the solution and I hope until mid of this year we
will habe first results.
*N
Hi,
Original-Nachricht
> Von: Thorsten Ziehm
> Hi Andre,
>
> >
> > Hmm? What request is not valid? That QA communitiy shoud be able to get
> > somehow reliable builds from buildbots to be able to do CWS tests?
>
> I will explain it again. I try to explain my future view o
Thorsten Ziehm wrote:
> [...]
>
> 3. I want to have TestBots - or how ever you want to call it - with
>defined environment to check each CWS automatically or by manual
>trigger. On these BuildBots automated testing will run automatically
>on each CWS.
>
and
> 6. It is needed to have bu
Thorsten Ziehm wrote:
>> Thorsten Ziehm wrote:
>>> I do not see the need to bring the build bots near to the build
>>> environment here in Hamburg. The request for build bots was (as I know)
>>> to have builds in different environments to find build issues in these
>>> different environment. When t
Thorsten Ziehm wrote:
> Hi Mathias,
>
> I do not see the need to bring the build bots near to the build
> environment here in Hamburg. The request for build bots was (as I know)
> to have builds in different environments to find build issues in these
> different environment. When these environmen
Hi Andre,
Perhaps to use a build bots for CWS builds or for master builds here in
Hamburg could be a solution. But my intension is to search for all
requirements which are needed in build environment and want to find then
a solution. And I do not want to nail down now, that we have to use
build
Hi Rene,
Rene Engelhard wrote:
Hi,
Thorsten Ziehm wrote:
I do not see the need to bring the build bots near to the build
environment here in Hamburg. The request for build bots was (as I know)
to have builds in different environments to find build issues in these
different environment. When th
André Schnabel wrote:
Hi,
Thorsten Ziehm schrieb:
I do not see the need to bring the build bots near to the build
environment here in Hamburg. The request for build bots was (as I know)
to have builds in different environments to find build issues in these
different environment. When these en
Mathias Bauer wrote:
> [let build bots be the 'reference' build system]
>
> Is that a wood we could agree on? Or shall we keep the status quo and
> look on the trees?
>
Hi Mathias,
definitely the former. And I like the picture of the forest you
paint. :)
Cheers,
-- Thorsten
-
Hi,
Thorsten Ziehm schrieb:
I do not see the need to bring the build bots near to the build
environment here in Hamburg. The request for build bots was (as I know)
to have builds in different environments to find build issues in these
different environment. When these environment will be nearl
Hi,
Thorsten Ziehm wrote:
> I do not see the need to bring the build bots near to the build
> environment here in Hamburg. The request for build bots was (as I know)
> to have builds in different environments to find build issues in these
> different environment. When these environment will be nea
Mathias Bauer wrote:
> Perhaps it would help to agree on what we want to have in an ideal
> world. And then see what we can achieve now and in the forseeable
> future. At that point we can decide whether it makes sense to look on
> trees or if we already like the wood.
>
> I agree with Caolan and
Hi Mathias,
I do not see the need to bring the build bots near to the build
environment here in Hamburg. The request for build bots was (as I know)
to have builds in different environments to find build issues in these
different environment. When these environment will be nearly the same,
then we
Thorsten Behrens wrote:
> Nils Fuhrmann wrote:
>> I know that there were some issue regarding QA'ing buildbot builds in
>> past. To get an idea what the real problem is, we should collect those
>> issues in detail when they occur to find the root cause for them (as we
>> always do). If those issue
Hi Jörg,
Jörg Jahnke schrieb:
Is this really the answer to Thorstens older question? I guess not.
I was just looking at one tree in the wood. Unfortunately this tree is
in my way so that I cannot even enter the wood.
And also to Mechtilde's initial question, which Stephan posted here,
it
On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 17:27 +0100, Jörg Jahnke wrote:
> ... installing
> some BuildBots that are as close as possible to the Hamburg RE
> environment where the milestone builds take place, so that the BuildBots
> can create builds with a higher reliabiliy.
I'd say to go the extra step, and actu
Hi Andre,
Andre Schnabel schrieb:
Hi Thorsten,
Original-Nachricht
Von: Thorsten Ziehm
where is the problem? (I know I asked this since months and do not get
any detailed answer) :-(
You are correct with this. And I was just going to get builds from the
buildbots to do
Gregor Hartmann wrote:
> another problem or rather a question is: what are Buildbots meant to be
> good for?
>
> Fom when they were introduced they had two tasks to perform
>
> 1. Test the build under as many different system configurations as possible.
>
> 2. Produce builds which are suitable fo
It needed to have a patch applied. done now. I also forced your build again
Gregor
Andre Schnabel schrieb:
and finally ...
Original-Nachricht
Von: "Andre Schnabel"
I'll try to get at least some linux builds:
http://termite.go-oo.org/buildbot/builders/Ubuntu-7.10-i386/buil
and finally ...
Original-Nachricht
> Von: "Andre Schnabel"
>
> I'll try to get at least some linux builds:
> http://termite.go-oo.org/buildbot/builders/Ubuntu-7.10-i386/builds/661
this failed as well.
André
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Hi Thorsten,
Original-Nachricht
> Von: Thorsten Ziehm
>
> where is the problem? (I know I asked this since months and do not get
> any detailed answer) :-(
You are correct with this. And I was just going to get builds from the
buildbots to do some testruns. And here is the f
On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 14:48 +0100, Gregor Hartmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> another problem or rather a question is: what are Buildbots meant to be
> good for?
>
> Fom when they were introduced they had two tasks to perform
>
> 1. Test the build under as many different system configurations as possible
Hi,
another problem or rather a question is: what are Buildbots meant to be
good for?
Fom when they were introduced they had two tasks to perform
1. Test the build under as many different system configurations as possible.
2. Produce builds which are suitable for QA.
so the Buildbots seem t
Hi Andre,
where is the problem? (I know I asked this since months and do not get
any detailed answer) :-(
As I heard often in the past months that it isn't possible to compare
the test results in QUASTE of a Sun build with an OOo buildbot build.
As I know there are only a few differences and als
we'd like to use a native enviroment.
Best,
From: Stephan Bergmann
Subject: [dev] buildbot builds vs standard builds
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:00:10 +0100
> During FOSDEM, Mechtilde told me about a problem the QA community is
> experiencing, namely that buildbot builds (of CWSs
Andre Schnabel schrieb:
Hi Nils,
Stephan Bergmann schrieb:
During FOSDEM, Mechtilde told me about a problem the QA community is
experiencing, namely that buildbot builds (of CWSs) are quite different
functionality-wise from the standard builds (of milestones and releases,
often done
Nils Fuhrmann wrote:
> I know that there were some issue regarding QA'ing buildbot builds in
> past. To get an idea what the real problem is, we should collect those
> issues in detail when they occur to find the root cause for them (as we
> always do). If those issues still are existent, I w
Hi Nils,
Original-Nachricht
> Von: Nils Fuhrmann
> Stephan Bergmann schrieb:
> > During FOSDEM, Mechtilde told me about a problem the QA community is
> > experiencing, namely that buildbot builds (of CWSs) are quite different
> > functionality-wise from the standard builds (o
Hi Stephan, all,
Stephan Bergmann schrieb:
During FOSDEM, Mechtilde told me about a problem the QA community is
experiencing, namely that buildbot builds (of CWSs) are quite different
functionality-wise from the standard builds (of milestones and releases,
often done by Sun Hamburg Release Eng
On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 12:00 +0100, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
> I assume that many buildbots use additional configure switches that
> influence the functionality of the resulting OOo. ... (I do not know
> where to easily look up which buildbot uses which switches, so I did
> not bother to che
During FOSDEM, Mechtilde told me about a problem the QA community is
experiencing, namely that buildbot builds (of CWSs) are quite different
functionality-wise from the standard builds (of milestones and releases,
often done by Sun Hamburg Release Engineering). Those differences are
especially
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