Re: [dev] 470 versions in issuezilla, can we drop a couple of hundred ?

2007-06-26 Thread Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germa ny
Hi Mathias,

 About the problem you
 mentioned: it would need a permanent maintenance to keep the versions
 updated, yes. But that happens anyway when new versions arrive. So let's
 hope old versions can be removed as easy as new ones can be added.

Sorry, but let's hope isn't a good basis.

Currently there exists an administrative interface which allows to add
new versions, for users which have the respective privileges. There
exists, to my best knowledge, no administrative interface for the
submission form. So either changes to this form require permanent issues
to collab.net, or collab.net needs to create this administrative
interface. The first doesn't really scale, the second doesn't sounds as
if it will happen.

To not end up with fruitless discussions here, I suggest somebody
(Caolan?) submits an issue to collab.net requesting the possibility to
limit the version list when submitting an issue. Then let's get Stefan
on board, and see what collab.net says about it.

Ciao
Frank

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Re: [dev] 470 versions in issuezilla, can we drop a couple of hundred ?

2007-06-26 Thread Caolan McNamara
On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 08:13 +0200, Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems
Germany wrote:

 To not end up with fruitless discussions here, I suggest somebody
 (Caolan?) submits an issue to collab.net requesting the possibility to
 limit the version list when submitting an issue. Then let's get Stefan
 on board, and see what collab.net says about it.

Well, logged as http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=78883
Not sure that it is on collab's tracker as a simple against website bug.
Feel free to reassign it if anyone has a better idea as to where it
should go.

C.

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Re: [dev] 470 versions in issuezilla, can we drop a couple of hundred ?

2007-06-25 Thread Mathias Bauer
Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany wrote:

 Hi Caolan,
 
 I'd hope that we could just remove the ability to *add* new bugs against
 those milestones. i.e. that we'd just list the last couple of milestones
 and the actual releases as options on the bug submission pages. I'm all
 for leaving the current version that bugs are logged against
 untouched.
 
 Ah!
 
 Not sure how that would work. In fact I think for this, we *do* need
 collab.net, which would need to change the IZ installation. Hurdles for
 such requests have always been high in the past ... The more since here,
 we're talking about something we would need constant updates over time.

IIRC it should be possible to have different entries in the listbox when
submitting or when editing an issue. At least e.g. the listbox for
component looks different in both cases.

That would be enough for what Caolan suggested. About the problem you
mentioned: it would need a permanent maintenance to keep the versions
updated, yes. But that happens anyway when new versions arrive. So let's
hope old versions can be removed as easy as new ones can be added.

Ciao,
Mathias

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Re: [dev] 470 versions in issuezilla, can we drop a couple of hundred ?

2007-06-22 Thread Rich

On 2007.06.22. 16:45, Caolan McNamara wrote:

There are 470, four hundred and seventy! versions listed by issuezilla
for e.g. tools.

Can we cull these to at least remove all the milestones  current - 5,
and consider dropping the release candidates and the 1.0.X releases.


this would be awesome.
i've mentioned this a couple of times here and there, but that lead to 
nothing :)


it's not like anybody would accept a bugreport for 99% of those versions 
anyway... and it is a pain to find the correct version in a huge dropdown.


thanks for bringing this up again :)


Who's the contact for the versions, collabnet ?

C.

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Re: [dev] 470 versions in issuezilla, can we drop a couple of hundred ?

2007-06-22 Thread Caolan McNamara
On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 20:01 +0200, Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems
Germany wrote:
 Hi Caolan,
 
  There are 470, four hundred and seventy! versions listed by issuezilla
  for e.g. tools.
 
 way too much, agreed. The better solution would be if Version was a
 free-text field, but alas ...
 
  Can we cull these to at least remove all the milestones  current - 5,
  and consider dropping the release candidates and the 1.0.X releases.
 
 What would we do then with the issues which currently have one of those
 versions set? We cannot simply remove the versions, this would violate
 the data integrity. We would have to reset this field for the affected
 issues.

I'd hope that we could just remove the ability to *add* new bugs against
those milestones. i.e. that we'd just list the last couple of milestones
and the actual releases as options on the bug submission pages. I'm all
for leaving the current version that bugs are logged against
untouched.

C.

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RE: [dev] 470 versions in issuezilla, can we drop a couple of hundred ?

2007-06-22 Thread Allen Pulsifer
  Can we cull these to at least remove all the milestones  
 current - 5, 
  and consider dropping the release candidates and the 1.0.X releases.
 
 What would we do then with the issues which currently have 
 one of those versions set? We cannot simply remove the 
 versions, this would violate the data integrity. We would 
 have to reset this field for the affected issues.

How about just changing the UI on the website?  We could make it so that
normally only the active versions would be displayed in the scrolling
list, but somewhere there would be a checkbox or other option to make it
display all versions.  In the search screen, we could also add some
meta-versions to the list, i.e., Any version, Any v1.x, Any v2.x,
etc.

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Re: [dev] 470 versions in issuezilla, can we drop a couple of hundred ?

2007-06-22 Thread Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germa ny
Hi Allen,

 How about just changing the UI on the website?  We could make it so that
 normally only the active versions would be displayed in the scrolling
 list, but somewhere there would be a checkbox or other option to make it
 display all versions.  In the search screen, we could also add some
 meta-versions to the list, i.e., Any version, Any v1.x, Any v2.x,
 etc.

Unfortunately, things like this require changes to the IssueZilla
installation. Since IssueZilla effectively is in maintainance mode only
at collab.net (future version of CEE, the web hosting package provided
by collab.net, on which OOo is running, will contain another bug
tracking system), chances are rather low ...

Even it it weren't, chances as you describe them are difficult to do in
an alive production system, we would probably have to wait for a next
verions, anyway.

Ciao
Frank

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