Re: [OSM-dev] Restrict key names on order to retain reusability of OSM

2008-02-15 Thread Jochen Topf
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:57:41AM +0100, Stefan Keller wrote: model and will never evolve or be re-imported from other databases. Users will be 'surprised' when they miss their data on the map like with 'Tunnel ' instead 'Tunnel' or with things like that '¨name'='Südstrasse'. My proposal

Re: [OSM-dev] Restrict key names on order to retain reusability of OSM

2008-02-15 Thread Stefan Keller
Look: It seems to be debate about unstructured, semi-structured and structured data. What you're celebrating is something around semi-structured data. Marcus reminded my that OSM allows for a building to be more than just a shop, but a gas-station a fuel-station, lit, car-wash, etc. That's right,

Re: [OSM-dev] Restrict key names on order to retain reusability of OSM

2008-02-15 Thread Nick Black
2008/2/15 Stefan Keller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Look: It seems to be debate about unstructured, semi-structured and structured data. What you're celebrating is something around semi-structured data. Marcus reminded my that OSM allows for a building to be more than just a shop, but a gas-station a

Re: [OSM-dev] Restrict key names on order to retain reusability of OSM

2008-02-15 Thread Alexander Wright
On Friday 15 February 2008 08:32:17 Stefan Keller wrote: Marcus reminded my that OSM allows for a building to be more than just a shop, but a gas-station a fuel-station, lit, car-wash, etc. That's right, but keep in mind, that I *don't* propose to change the current internal OSM schema and I

Re: [OSM-dev] Restrict key names on order to retain reusability of OSM

2008-02-15 Thread Stefan Keller
In the model I showed and I would use for such purposes a sample query would look like this: # select * from building'; -- was: where type='shop' # select * from streets: -- where street type value can be anything Where buildings get a building (= table = keyname) point symbol/style and streets

Re: [OSM-dev] Restrict key names on order to retain reusability of OSM

2008-02-15 Thread Stefan Keller
It is no harder for me to add construcción(spanish) to the renderer than So, you're after a running target? Not so in my example schema of exported OSM data. And finally all this just because being reluctant to restrict key names to ASCII without space or so? - S. 2008/2/15, Rob Reid [EMAIL

Re: [OSM-dev] Restrict key names on order to retain reusability of OSM

2008-02-15 Thread Artem Pavlenko
Stefan, What exactly is the problem you're trying to solve ? It seems to me you're on a mission:) Here is what you should do: A. If you have the skills, get the data and convert it into whatever format/schema is good for you. B. If you haven't got the skills, _fund_ someone to help you to

Re: [OSM-dev] Restrict key names on order to retain reusability of OSM

2008-02-15 Thread Gabriel Ebner
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 01:53:43PM +0100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: VALUES ( 3029222, 'LINESTRING()', 'key=value, key=value, ...' ); ^^ I'm all for completely redoing the data model every once in a while but I'd suggest that you prepare a complete proposal in

Re: [OSM-dev] Slippy map and zoom

2008-02-15 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 02:55:11PM +, Tom Hughes wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christopher Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 01:06:32PM +, Tom Hughes wrote: If this was possible, I guess the browser could also emulate finer grades

Re: [OSM-dev] Restrict key names on order to retain reusability of OSM

2008-02-15 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Gabriel Ebner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 01:53:43PM +0100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: VALUES ( 3029222, 'LINESTRING()', 'key=value, key=value, ...' ); ^^ I'm all for completely redoing the data model

Re: [OSM-dev] Slippy map and zoom

2008-02-15 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 03:14:54PM +, Artem Pavlenko wrote: On 15 Feb 2008, at 15:04, Christopher Schmidt wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 02:55:11PM +, Tom Hughes wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christopher Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at

Re: [OSM-dev] Slippy map and zoom

2008-02-15 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 15 Feb 2008, at 15:04, Christopher Schmidt wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 02:55:11PM +, Tom Hughes wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christopher Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 01:06:32PM +, Tom Hughes wrote: If this was possible, I guess the

Re: [OSM-dev] Slippy map and zoom

2008-02-15 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 15 Feb 2008, at 15:23, Christopher Schmidt wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 03:14:54PM +, Artem Pavlenko wrote: On 15 Feb 2008, at 15:04, Christopher Schmidt wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 02:55:11PM +, Tom Hughes wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christopher Schmidt

Re: [OSM-dev] Slippy map and zoom

2008-02-15 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 03:31:10PM +, Artem Pavlenko wrote: Animated zoom/pan would be very nice feature to have in OL. See http://www.kosmosnimki.ru for examle You mean like http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/ animated_panning.html ?

[OSM-dev] Data checks?

2008-02-15 Thread Tom Enterline (OSM)
Hi, Now that I have my environment working (thanks again!), I'm now ready to do something with it. On the Things_To_Do page, I saw the Task:_Data_Consistency_Checks, which seemed to fit my skills, and so I (gulp) signed up for it. My qualifications: I have several years of experience working

Re: [OSM-dev] Notes on dev environment setup

2008-02-15 Thread Ulf Lamping
Tom Enterline (OSM) schrieb: Hi, First, thanks to everyone (on- and off-list) who got me past my bumps!! As someone who went through the process of setting up a dev environment on Ubuntu as a total Ruby on Rails and MySQL newbie, I have some notes to make the next one easier. 1. In

[OSM-dev] Notes on dev environment setup

2008-02-15 Thread Tom Enterline (OSM)
Hi, First, thanks to everyone (on- and off-list) who got me past my bumps!! As someone who went through the process of setting up a dev environment on Ubuntu as a total Ruby on Rails and MySQL newbie, I have some notes to make the next one easier. 1. In addition to the Debian packages noted,

Re: [OSM-dev] Data checks?

2008-02-15 Thread Jason Reid
Tom Enterline (OSM) wrote: What has already been done on data checks, and is anyone else working on it? What would be some good ideas to start with, and goals to work toward? Thanks, Tom E. I've coded a script to parse planet and return a list of all the excessively long ways (data is