Re: [OSM-dev] Improvement of tile rendering

2009-03-19 Thread sylvain letuffe
Since we are exploring different mapnik based rendering, I'm presenting mine too ;-) > It's really just a simple PHP script that invokes the Python script: > http://paste.debian.net/31026/ That's almost what I did in the first place ( in even more hugly !) as I am a php dev and not a python de

Re: [OSM-dev] Improvement of tile rendering

2009-03-19 Thread Stefan de Konink
Udo Giacomozzi wrote: > Hello Stefan, > > Friday, March 20, 2009, 12:55:27 AM, you wrote: >>> Instead I'm thinking about writing some multithreaded FreePascal or >>> C++ FastCGI server that does it much more efficiently (by using >>> libmapnick internally) but I still need to have a look at mod_ti

Re: [OSM-dev] Improvement of tile rendering

2009-03-19 Thread Udo Giacomozzi
Hello Stefan, Friday, March 20, 2009, 12:55:27 AM, you wrote: >> Instead I'm thinking about writing some multithreaded FreePascal or >> C++ FastCGI server that does it much more efficiently (by using >> libmapnick internally) but I still need to have a look at mod_tile as >> it might already provi

Re: [OSM-dev] andnav editor; and other borked output

2009-03-19 Thread Matthias Brandt
Stefan de Konink wrote: > http://openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/node/344793814 It's interesting. I thought, andnav.org doesn't provide map editing. All I can say: It wasn't me. My Android OSM Editor is called "Vespucci" in the created_by tags. Matthias ___

Re: [OSM-dev] Improvement of tile rendering

2009-03-19 Thread Stefan de Konink
Udo Giacomozzi wrote: > Instead I'm thinking about writing some multithreaded FreePascal or > C++ FastCGI server that does it much more efficiently (by using > libmapnick internally) but I still need to have a look at mod_tile as > it might already provide a highly performant solution. Investigate

Re: [OSM-dev] Improvement of tile rendering

2009-03-19 Thread Udo Giacomozzi
Hello Dane, Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 12:42:14 AM, you wrote: DS> Cool, sounds like it works fine though and many people use PHP so you DS> might considering adding your script to DS> http://code.google.com/p/mapnik-utils/ DS> since others might find it useful. It's really just a simple PHP s

Re: [OSM-dev] Improvement of tile rendering

2009-03-19 Thread Udo Giacomozzi
Hello Dave, Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 5:03:44 PM, you wrote: DS> It renders meta tiles -- that's 8x8 normal tiles. This reduces the DS> border overlap overhead. Sounds good. >> And, is it really impossible to avoid cropping at all? Can't Mapnik be >> instructed (or extended) to render labels alw

Re: [osmosis-dev] Continuous Integration

2009-03-19 Thread Brett Henderson
Brett Henderson wrote: > marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote: >> Cool. >> We should document this in the wiki. >> > Yep, agree. The developer info on the wiki is very light at the moment. > > It's not ideal running it on my home server because I don't want to > give out access to it. If anyb

Re: [osmosis-dev] Continuous Integration

2009-03-19 Thread Brett Henderson
marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote: > On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:28:51 +1100, Brett Henderson > wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> To help with the situation where not everybody has the time or >> inclination to setup mysql and postgres databases for running test >> cases, I've setup the Hudson Continuo

Re: [OSM-dev] planet.openstreetmap.org breakage

2009-03-19 Thread Brett Henderson
Shaun McDonald wrote: > > On 19 Mar 2009, at 09:52, Brett Henderson wrote: > >> Sorry if that wasn't clear. I meant when the API 0.6 goes live and the >> database is upgraded to the 0.6 schema then the Osmosis tasks supporting >> 0.6 data will support creating full history change files. The Osmos

Re: [josm-dev] JOSM and the future

2009-03-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/3/19 Dirk Stöcker : > A change resulting from that: The MOTD is no longer version depending. > This means older JOSM's will also see newer texts. I consider this a > feature instead of a bug! Agree, maybe it could be made (or kept) visible though, to which version improvements apply and which

Re: [OSM-dev] planet.openstreetmap.org breakage

2009-03-19 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Ceriel Jacobs wrote: > > I suggested to Grant to actually do a benchmark instead of just > > picking > > the next product from the stack. > > > When benckmarking different database systems, don't forget to include > Virtuoso. > > Here a TPC-D benchmark comparison (lower is bet

Re: [OSM-dev] planet.openstreetmap.org breakage

2009-03-19 Thread Ceriel Jacobs
Stefan de Konink wrote: >>> Sorry if that wasn't clear. I meant when the API 0.6 goes live >>> and the >>> database is upgraded to the 0.6 schema then the Osmosis tasks >>> supporting >>> 0.6 data will support creating full history change files. The >>> Osmosis >>> version is currently 0.3

Re: [OSM-dev] Which SRID in PostGIS for Mapnik rendering is needed?

2009-03-19 Thread sly (sylvain letuffe)
On Thursday 19 March 2009 19:27, you wrote: > hi, > > for some reason it suddenly works, no idea what I changed. > > I found a lot of this in the Logs. I guess I can ignore it? Eg it says > no column barrier found and it is true, there is none. Why is it in > the statement? I suppose you'r mapni

Re: [OSM-dev] Which SRID in PostGIS for Mapnik rendering is needed?

2009-03-19 Thread Ivo Brodien
hi, for some reason it suddenly works, no idea what I changed. I found a lot of this in the Logs. I guess I can ignore it? Eg it says no column barrier found and it is true, there is none. Why is it in the statement? thanks and bye Ivo the Logs: STATEMENT: select asbinary(way) as geom,"barrie

Re: [OSM-dev] planet.openstreetmap.org breakage

2009-03-19 Thread Stefan de Konink
Shaun McDonald wrote: >> Sorry if that wasn't clear. I meant when the API 0.6 goes live and the >> database is upgraded to the 0.6 schema then the Osmosis tasks supporting >> 0.6 data will support creating full history change files. The Osmosis >> version is currently 0.30.2, I'll release a 0.31

Re: [OSM-dev] Which SRID in PostGIS for Mapnik rendering is needed?

2009-03-19 Thread sly (sylvain letuffe)
> My osm tables use Google Mercartor (SRID= 900913) What is mapnik > expecting? 3395 ? No it's good. If you've used osm2pgsql to populate the db, and if you use a copy of the osm.xml ( starting with : ) Then everything should be fine. Access restrictions at postgres level ? Turn on the logs

[OSM-dev] Which SRID in PostGIS for Mapnik rendering is needed?

2009-03-19 Thread Ivo Brodien
Hello, I set up a PostGIS-DB-server and I am ready to go to render some tiles with mapnik. Everything works but tiles are empty. I guess that mapnik does not find and features because it is looking with another SRID? My osm tables use Google Mercartor (SRID= 900913) What is mapnik expecti

Re: [OSM-dev] How to get offline maps of a large area in reasonable time?

2009-03-19 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 19 Mar 2009, at 15:21, Ceriel Jacobs wrote: Op 19 mrt 2009, om 14:01 heeft Ivo Brodien het volgende geschreven: Or are there any other ideas on how to get such a big amount of data? See why almost no-one renders in advance every thing up to zoom 18 by reading : http://wiki.openstreetma

Re: [OSM-dev] How to get offline maps of a large area in reasonable time?

2009-03-19 Thread Ceriel Jacobs
Op 19 mrt 2009, om 14:01 heeft Ivo Brodien het volgende geschreven: Or are there any other ideas on how to get such a big amount of data? See why almost no-one renders in advance every thing up to zoom 18 by reading : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mod_tile http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/

Re: [OSM-dev] planet.openstreetmap.org breakage

2009-03-19 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 19 Mar 2009, at 09:52, Brett Henderson wrote: Sorry if that wasn't clear. I meant when the API 0.6 goes live and the database is upgraded to the 0.6 schema then the Osmosis tasks supporting 0.6 data will support creating full history change files. The Osmosis version is currently 0.3

Re: [OSM-dev] planet.openstreetmap.org breakage

2009-03-19 Thread Grant Slater
Grant Slater wrote: > Devs, > > Recent planet files available from: http://planet.openstreetmap.org/ > will be disrupted for the next few days. Apologies for the disruption. > > Hopefully be fixed within the next 48 hours. > > Reasons? Look over here: > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk

Re: [OSM-dev] How to get offline maps of a large area in reasonable time?

2009-03-19 Thread Ivo Brodien
Hi, I would calculate with half the size of 13kB. Many tiles are only around 100 bytes. This will be around 1 to 2 weeks. ok, then I should get started... Or are there any other ideas on how to get such a big amount of data? See why almost no-one renders in advance every thing up to zo

Re: [OSM-dev] How to get offline maps of a large area in reasonable time?

2009-03-19 Thread Ceriel Jacobs
> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:44:08 +0100 > From: Ivo Brodien > Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] How to get offline maps of a large area in > reasonable time? > To: "sly (sylvain letuffe)" > Cc: dev@openstreetmap.org > Message-ID: <5db2532c-4a0c-44a8-bb42-bda4627be...@cs.tu-berlin.de> > Content-Ty

Re: [osmosis-dev] Continuous Integration

2009-03-19 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:28:51 +1100, Brett Henderson wrote: > Hi All, > > To help with the situation where not everybody has the time or > inclination to setup mysql and postgres databases for running test > cases, I've setup the Hudson Continuous Integration server on my home > server. > > ht

Re: [OSM-dev] IE8 RC1

2009-03-19 Thread Erik Johansson
2009/3/19 Ed Loach : > I think it works, but gazetteer isn't particularly quick (or is that > just me?). It looks nice and is very nicely done, but has always been dog slow.. Using grep on a CSV file with POIs is faster. You could of course use google/MSN geocoding instead. __

[osmosis-dev] Continuous Integration

2009-03-19 Thread Brett Henderson
Hi All, To help with the situation where not everybody has the time or inclination to setup mysql and postgres databases for running test cases, I've setup the Hudson Continuous Integration server on my home server. http://www.bretth.com/hudson/ It polls SVN at 55 minutes past the hour and ki

[OSM-dev] osm2pgsql + relations of relations (aka "super-relations")

2009-03-19 Thread sly (sylvain letuffe)
Hi, Relations becomes more and more popular (and complex). However in some cases (Europeen E roads), country boundaries, (huge forest ?) the number of members in some relation is huge. Motorway E 70 comes to mind with ~1700 members http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/27057 France boun

Re: [OSM-dev] IE8 RC1

2009-03-19 Thread Ed Loach
On 5th March I wrote: > I notice it includes something called Accelerators with a map > category. > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc289775(VS.85).aspx > > I don't know how complicated it would be to provide an OSM > Accelerator? If I get time I'll read the above page in more > detail

[OSM-dev] andnav editor; and other borked output

2009-03-19 Thread Stefan de Konink
http://openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/node/344793814 As you can see here andnav seems to allow 'null' tags. I'll add this to the OSM fixer scripts so it will get removed. Likewise for stuff like this: http://openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/node/344020916 Most likely I'll run an OSM Fixer session today to g

Re: [OSM-dev] planet.openstreetmap.org breakage

2009-03-19 Thread Brett Henderson
Stefan de Konink wrote: > On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Brett Henderson wrote: > > >> Osmosis will provide the capability to do this from 0.6 onwards. If >> disk space isn't an issue on the planet server I'll set it up as soon as >> I get time after 0.6 goes live. It has the ability to go back in time

Re: [OSM-dev] planet.openstreetmap.org breakage

2009-03-19 Thread Brett Henderson
marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote: > On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:23:23 +1100, Brett Henderson > wrote: > >> Osmosis will provide the capability to do this from 0.6 onwards. If >> disk space isn't an issue on the planet server I'll set it up as soon as >> I get time after 0.6 goes live. It has

Re: [OSM-dev] planet.openstreetmap.org breakage

2009-03-19 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:23:23 +1100, Brett Henderson wrote: > Stefan de Konink wrote: >> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Shaun McDonald wrote: >> Please; why don't we just ignore all previous planets and create a >> new planet and start to produce daily (full) history? Where we dump our >> old history excludi

Re: [OSM-dev] planet.openstreetmap.org breakage

2009-03-19 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Brett Henderson wrote: > Osmosis will provide the capability to do this from 0.6 onwards. If > disk space isn't an issue on the planet server I'll set it up as soon as > I get time after 0.6 goes live. It has the ability to go back in time > and produce full history diffs fo

Re: [OSM-dev] Simplified street-network - solved

2009-03-19 Thread marcus.wolschon
I found a solution to merging the parallel lanes of dual-carriageways before doing polyline-simplification. You can find the code in: http://travelingsales.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/travelingsales/libosm/src/org/openstreetmap/osm/data/LODDataSet.java?view=markup Method: mergeWays(final Way part

Re: [OSM-dev] planet.openstreetmap.org breakage

2009-03-19 Thread Brett Henderson
Stefan de Konink wrote: > On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Shaun McDonald wrote: > > >>> Isn't that a bit waste of resources? >>> >>> >> From a legal perspective no. >> > > Please; why don't we just ignore all previous planets and create a > new planet and start to produce daily (full) history?

Re: [OSM-dev] planet.openstreetmap.org breakage

2009-03-19 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Shaun McDonald wrote: > > Isn't that a bit waste of resources? > > > > From a legal perspective no. Please; why don't we just ignore all previous planets and create a new planet and start to produce daily (full) history? Where we dump our old history excluding Teleatlas data

Re: [OSM-dev] planet.openstreetmap.org breakage

2009-03-19 Thread D Tucny
2009/3/19 Stefan de Konink > On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Grant Slater wrote: > > > Patched planet files will become available shortly, but they too take > > time to generate. > > Are you saying you are going to regenerate all previous planet files? > Isn't that a bit waste of resources? > A significant

Re: [OSM-dev] planet.openstreetmap.org breakage

2009-03-19 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 19 Mar 2009, at 06:22, Stefan de Konink wrote: > On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Grant Slater wrote: > >> Patched planet files will become available shortly, but they too take >> time to generate. > > Are you saying you are going to regenerate all previous planet files? Yes. > Isn't that a bit waste of