[OSM-dev] Limiting Polygon?

2009-04-06 Thread Gary G:
Hi, is there anyone aware of an algorithm that produces a limiting polygon around a heap of nodes - let's say around an osm file cut from a planet file? Best would be PERL... Thanks Gerhard gary68 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-dev] Limiting Polygon?

2009-04-06 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:01:25 +0200 (MEST), Gary G: g...@gary68.de wrote: Hi, is there anyone aware of an algorithm that produces a limiting polygon around a heap of nodes - let's say around an osm file cut from a planet file? Do you mean the convex hull of these nodes? If guess with the name

Re: [OSM-dev] JOSM: Several tags with same key

2009-04-06 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:09:40 +0100, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Marcus Wolschon mar...@wolschon.biz wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote: maybe what we need is an amenities tag specifically for multiple co-located

[OSM-dev] OSM Fixer [2009-04-06]

2009-04-06 Thread Stefan de Konink
Relations: 67028 108258 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev

[OSM-dev] Please advise; I really don't get how this can corrupt so badly

2009-04-06 Thread Stefan de Konink
I really want to understand this; and to my intel transactions of such amount of time are just not bound to fail, looking at the timestamp. http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/way/28366538/history http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/relation/108258/history Alpinfuchs deleted way 28366538 at

Re: [OSM-dev] JOSM: Several tags with same key

2009-04-06 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
If you look at other keys you will find wider use of the semi colon. At the moment for instance the OSMers in the west midlands are hitting bus stops hard and we are using the route_ref=45;56;78;905;907;998A;998C format. I started out many moons ago using a pipe to separate values but realised

Re: [OSM-dev] JOSM: Several tags with same key

2009-04-06 Thread Stefan de Konink
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: For mappers we need the simplest quickest way of entering the data, and this works for us. I don’t really care if that makes it more difficult to process the data in the database, that’s not important while building the database of data. Would dynamic

[OSM-dev] relation-browser broken

2009-04-06 Thread marcus.wolschon
http://osm.schunterscouts.de/relation-browser.php?type=relationid=31495 (as linked to by http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Germany/Bundesstra%C3%9Fen) gives: hide tags | show tags Warning: fopen(http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/relation/31495/full) [function.fopen]: failed to

Re: [OSM-dev] Please advise; I really don't get how this can corrupt so badly

2009-04-06 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Dave Stubbs wrote: Anyway, Shaun refactored the whole lot for API 0.6. It now atomically checks relation consistency within the rails models when doing an update rather than relying on the caller to do it. So this should be fixed in a couple of weeks a long with everything

[OSM-dev] TMC: need comments on import-algorithm

2009-04-06 Thread marcus.wolschon
Hello, on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TMC/TMC_Import_Germany#automatic_import I sketched out an algorithm for doing the import of the TMC road-network into OpenStreetMap. Can some of you please have a look at it? Especially the cases when relations for streets are not present in OSM.

Re: [OSM-dev] Please advise; I really don't get how this can corrupt so badly

2009-04-06 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/4/6 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de: On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Dave Stubbs wrote: Anyway, Shaun refactored the whole lot for API 0.6. It now atomically checks relation consistency within the rails models when doing an update rather than relying on the caller to do it. So this should be

Re: [OSM-dev] JOSM: Several tags with same key

2009-04-06 Thread Pieren
2009/4/6 Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) For mappers we need the simplest quickest way of entering the data, and this works for us. I don’t really care if that makes it more difficult to process the data in the database, that’s not important while building the database of data. +200 Pieren

Re: [OSM-dev] Please advise; I really don't get how this can corrupt so badly

2009-04-06 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/4/6 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net: Stefan de Konink wrote: Now how is it possible that there was no 415 on that update? I'm going to pass on this one as I didn't write the Potlatch relations code, Dave did - any thoughts? I'm guessing that's here:

Re: [OSM-dev] JOSM: Several tags with same key

2009-04-06 Thread Matt Amos
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 8:06 AM, marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:09:40 +0100, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Marcus Wolschon mar...@wolschon.biz wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [OSM-dev] JOSM: Several tags with same key

2009-04-06 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
-Original Message- From: Stefan de Konink [mailto:ste...@konink.de] Sent: 06 April 2009 9:52 AM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: 'Pierre-André Jacquod'; 'Matt Amos'; dev@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] JOSM: Several tags with same key Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)

Re: [OSM-dev] Please advise; I really don't get how this can corrupt so badly

2009-04-06 Thread Matt Amos
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Dave Stubbs osm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk wrote: So I'd just wait two weeks. It's not going to cause the world to end in the meantime. it might. i'm sure i can think up a semi-plausible situation involving scientists at CERN being so frustrated with the broken

Re: [OSM-dev] JOSM: Several tags with same key

2009-04-06 Thread Stefan de Konink
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Well, maybe if you explain what that means I can respond ;-) Currently the editor or the server decides what the user sees; I can imagine that in the 'data is present' way it is far more easy to delete or update a value that is in unique(k,v) format than

Re: [OSM-dev] ANNOUNCE: OpenStreetMap maps will be added to Wikimedia projects

2009-04-06 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Erik Johansson wrote: illustrating all flight paths over Europe This particular one keeps popping up all the time but there is no such thing. True, but how do you acommodate these kinds of requests. As you say they

Re: [OSM-dev] Please advise; I really don't get how this can corrupt so badly

2009-04-06 Thread Ed Loach
it might. i'm sure i can think up a semi-plausible situation involving scientists at CERN being so frustrated with the broken relations they don't notice that LHC is creating a massive black-hole. ;-) They won't have restarted it since the repairs within the next two weeks. From

Re: [OSM-dev] relation-browser broken

2009-04-06 Thread Maarten Deen
marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote: http://osm.schunterscouts.de/relation-browser.php?type=relationid=31495 (as linked to by http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Germany/Bundesstra%C3%9Fen) gives: hide tags | show tags Warning:

Re: [OSM-dev] Please advise; I really don't get how this can corrupt so badly

2009-04-06 Thread Matt Amos
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: The current schedule foresees the final magnet being reinstalled by the end of March 2009, with the LHC being cold and ready for powering tests by the end of June 2009. LHC 0.6... weird ;-) cheers, matt

Re: [OSM-dev] [josm-dev] JOSM version detect

2009-04-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/4/6 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: If you find any strangeness regarding server up-/download on josm-latest in the next few days, send me a quick e-mail and I'll investigate. not sure if this issue is connected: JOSM 1523 not uploading: transfer aborted due to error:

[OSM-dev] OSM Fixer [2009-04-07]

2009-04-06 Thread Stefan de Konink
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[josm-dev] FW: [OSM-newbies] JOSM problems - is it just me?

2009-04-06 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Forwarded from newbies list -Original Message- From: newbies-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:newbies-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Mike Harris Sent: 06 April 2009 12:19 PM To: newb...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-newbies] JOSM problems - is it just me? Hi Since approx.

Re: [josm-dev] JOSM version detect

2009-04-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I will modify JOSM to store a version number with each data set. When you load data from a file, it has the version number given in the file. When you download data from the server, JOSM will (for performance) first try the configured version number but if that fails, it will make a

[josm-dev] R: FW: [OSM-newbies] JOSM problems - is it just me?

2009-04-06 Thread Fabrizio Carrai
It happened to me as well, but since some earlier version. Approximately since end of January. I also tried to increase the physical memory but without success. Look at your current working directory: everytime that Josm crashes I find an hs_err_pid.log file indicating: # # An unexpected

Re: [josm-dev] R: FW: [OSM-newbies] JOSM problems - is it just me?

2009-04-06 Thread Jiri Klement
Can you please make a bug report and include one of the hs_err files? It's quite possible it's a Java bug. In that case upgrading Java to newest version should help. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Fabrizio Carrai fabrizio.car...@gmail.com wrote: It happened to me as well, but since some