Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, (Cross-posting this to legal-talk.) Stefan de Konink wrote: >>> To make things absolutely clear. If any new license will prohibit >>> in any way the distribution of the planet without signing or >>> agreeing, this bittorrent service will continue anyway as it is >>> now. >> That is no proble

Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Stefan de Konink
Maarten Deen wrote: > Stefan de Konink wrote: > > Paul Johnson wrote: > >> 2) If we have nothing to hide (we don't), and especially given that > >> nothing about OSM is anonymous, what's with this irrational insistence > >> that anonymity is the standard all the sudden? Does OSM as a project >

Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Maarten Deen
Stefan de Konink wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> 2) If we have nothing to hide (we don't), and especially given that >> nothing about OSM is anonymous, what's with this irrational insistence >> that anonymity is the standard all the sudden? Does OSM as a project >> even care or attempt to log

Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Stefan de Konink
Paul Johnson wrote: > 2) If we have nothing to hide (we don't), and especially given that > nothing about OSM is anonymous, what's with this irrational insistence > that anonymity is the standard all the sudden? Does OSM as a project > even care or attempt to log who is receiving the data to begin

Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Paul Johnson
Max wrote: > just a question of setting the standard. 1) I'm not sure one who doesn't follow the established standards set by English and common email convention of making the conversation flow in chronological order rather than random reverse order when quoting other people has much room to speak

Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Stefan de Konink
Max wrote: > just a question of setting the standard. Should we protect ourselves now from Teleatlas by going underground? Please inform me if API 0.7 is just that. Stefan ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/list

Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Max
just a question of setting the standard. 2009/4/18 Marcus Wolschon > 2009/4/18 Max : > > so you speak of a magnet link and not a torrent. > > that works as well, right, but it is not anonymous, offsystem link is. > > It does not need to be. > ___ dev m

Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Marcus Wolschon
2009/4/18 Max : > so you speak of a magnet link and not a torrent. > that works as well, right, but it is not anonymous, offsystem link is. It does not need to be. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Max
so you speak of a magnet link and not a torrent. that works as well, right, but it is not anonymous, offsystem link is. 2009/4/18 Iván Sánchez Ortega > El Sábado, 18 de Abril de 2009, Max escribió: > > because the tracker e.g. of TPB is blocked. > > offsystem needs no tracker, so the suggest is

Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Sábado, 18 de Abril de 2009, Max escribió: > because the tracker e.g. of TPB is blocked. > offsystem needs no tracker, so the suggest is to use the offsystem link. Multiple trackers per torrent file + DHT = no problem. *sigh* -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega "Life,

Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Max
because the tracker e.g. of TPB is blocked. offsystem needs no tracker, so the suggest is to use the offsystem link. 2009/4/18 Iván Sánchez Ortega > El Sábado, 18 de Abril de 2009, Max escribió: > > torrent is outdated, there is new anonymous torrent, > > http://offsystem.sf.net > > please host

Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Sábado, 18 de Abril de 2009, Max escribió: > torrent is outdated, there is new anonymous torrent, > http://offsystem.sf.net > please host an offsystem link for download ! Why do we need anonymity for downloading planet dumps, exactly? -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega

Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Max
torrent is outdated, there is new anonymous torrent, http://offsystem.sf.net please host an offsystem link for download ! Thx 2009/4/18 Iván Sánchez Ortega > El Sábado, 18 de Abril de 2009, D Tucny escribió: > > > > Not to nitpick, but in terms of PR, might it be better to use a > tracker > > >

Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Sábado, 18 de Abril de 2009, D Tucny escribió: > > > Not to nitpick, but in terms of PR, might it be better to use a tracker > > > other than The Pirate Bay? [...] > TPB is unreachable from here, it's been blocked for a long time... So? Set up a .torrent file with *multiple* trackers, one being

Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 8:50 AM, D Tucny wrote: > 2009/4/18 Simon Ward >> >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 08:23:19AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: >> > Stefan de Konink wrote: >> > > After a few upload problems, a new torrent is available. >> > > >> > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Planet.osm#Bitto

Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Stefan de Konink
D Tucny wrote: > TPB is unreachable from here, it's been blocked for a long time... So? What are you waiting for? Complain at your ISP, Government, that you are censored and you don't accept that. Stefan ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org ht