Re: [OSM-dev] Tile Fonts

2009-09-08 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Richard Ive wrote: > > > 2009/9/8 Richard Ive >> >> Sorry. I've found the solution: >> >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapnik#Optional:_CJK_font_fallback_support >> >> 2009/9/8 Richard Ive >>> >>> Excuse me for being a noob. >>> >>> I'm using mod_tile, and

Re: [OSM-dev] what server next?

2009-09-08 Thread Micha Ruh
Hi 2009/9/8 Frederik Ramm > Your idea suffers from the fundamental problem that it only counts those > having last touched an object. No, it doesn't. I thought of a mechanism to avoid that: >Users adding ways/pois get a score of 3 per way/poi added, >users adding more tags to existing way/p

Re: [OSM-dev] Keeping .osm database up-to-date

2009-09-08 Thread Stephan Knauss
Richard Ive wrote: > Is it easy to run a cron that downloads the daily diff which you can > then run an: > ./osm2pgsql -a -m -d gis ../planet-date.osm.gz on? (I'd assume you add > the -a to add the data, rather than clear the db) my setup uses osmosis to read the diffs and pipe the results to

Re: [OSM-dev] osm2pgsql slim mode, postgis, and hard disk spindles

2009-09-08 Thread Stephan Knauss
Richard Weait wrote: > Jaunty, osm2pgsql from svn, > p4, 3.4GHz > single 150GB hard drive > 50 hours. Wow, 50 hours to apply the changes from a day. I would be interested in having a wiki page to compare the typical runtime. It would help a lot to determine what performance to expect from a mac

Re: [OSM-dev] what server next?

2009-09-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Micha Ruh wrote: > Last night I dreamed about a solution to the cc-by-sa attribution > problem. It would be soo nice to have appropriate attribution displayed > in OpenLayer while browsing the map. Your idea suffers from the fundamental problem that it only counts those having last touched

Re: [OSM-dev] what server next?

2009-09-08 Thread Tom Hughes
On 08/09/09 19:41, Graham Jones wrote: > This would work for a single 'main' server, but I like the idea of it > being distributed with lots of little ones (for example the computer in > my attic could serve Northern England, someone else could do Belgium > etc.). I don't know how to deal with r

Re: [OSM-dev] what server next?

2009-09-08 Thread Graham Jones
I would like to look into a distributed version of XAPI - I agree with Tom that the current XAPI server is not ideal (but this may be because I can't work out how it works). I envisage an XAPI server utilising a 'standard' PostgreSQL database produced by osmosis, kept up to date by the daily/hourl

Re: [OSM-dev] Tile Fonts

2009-09-08 Thread Richard Ive
2009/9/8 Richard Ive > Sorry. I've found the solution: > > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapnik#Optional:_CJK_font_fallback_support > > 2009/9/8 Richard Ive > > Excuse me for being a noob. >> >> I'm using mod_tile, and when I start the renderd daemon it say: >> >> renderd[5748]: DEBUG: Lo

Re: [OSM-dev] Feed reader stupidities with our Atom feeds

2009-09-08 Thread Hugh Barnes
On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 15:35:26 + Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > I use Liferea as my feed reader and I discovered that when I double > click on a feed link I get the osmChange XML. > > This is because Liferea is using one variable internally to keep track > of the href for each feed entry. Wh

Re: [OSM-dev] what server next?

2009-09-08 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > Supposing that we get the rack space, what kind of machine and services would > you like us to host here? Just a mapnik renderer to balance load and improve > tile serving uptime? I'd suggest: * A localised front page * Cacheing proxy of the main Mapnik render * A

Re: [OSM-dev] what server next?

2009-09-08 Thread John Smith
2009/9/8 Iván Sánchez Ortega : > El Martes, 8 de Septiembre de 2009, John Smith escribió: >> Maybe the embedded stuff needs to be on it's own hostname instead of >> www so that the basic html and js can be duplicated across multiple >> sites that also host tile servers etc. > > DNS load balancing s

Re: [OSM-dev] what server next?

2009-09-08 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Martes, 8 de Septiembre de 2009, John Smith escribió: > Maybe the embedded stuff needs to be on it's own hostname instead of > www so that the basic html and js can be duplicated across multiple > sites that also host tile servers etc. DNS load balancing should be able to take care of that. --

Re: [OSM-dev] what server next?

2009-09-08 Thread John Smith
2009/9/8 Thomas Wood : > 2009/9/8 John Smith : >> Hosting OpenLayers.js and some kind of web page would be useful as >> well so people with simple web pages could embed a map in an iframe. > > * osm.org > * Export tab > * Select Embeddable Html Maybe the embedded stuff needs to be on it's own host

Re: [OSM-dev] what server next?

2009-09-08 Thread John Smith
2009/9/8 Iván Sánchez Ortega : > Have you actually had a look at the export tab? This whole topic is about servers, and if the map server goes down that embedded option is of no use. I should have been clearer in my previous email. ___ dev mailing list

Re: [OSM-dev] what server next?

2009-09-08 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Martes, 8 de Septiembre de 2009, John Smith escribió: > I'm not suggesting a limited subset of OSM as a static image. It would > be nice if there was a full dynamic embedable iframe option. Have you actually had a look at the export tab? -- -- Iván Sánchez Orte

Re: [OSM-dev] what server next?

2009-09-08 Thread John Smith
2009/9/8 John Smith : > 2009/9/8 Thomas Wood : >> 2009/9/8 John Smith : >>> Hosting OpenLayers.js and some kind of web page would be useful as >>> well so people with simple web pages could embed a map in an iframe. >> >> * osm.org >> * Export tab >> * Select Embeddable Html > > I'm not suggesting

Re: [OSM-dev] what server next?

2009-09-08 Thread John Smith
2009/9/8 Thomas Wood : > 2009/9/8 John Smith : >> Hosting OpenLayers.js and some kind of web page would be useful as >> well so people with simple web pages could embed a map in an iframe. > > * osm.org > * Export tab > * Select Embeddable Html I'm not suggesting a limited subset of OSM as a stati

Re: [OSM-dev] what server next?

2009-09-08 Thread Kai Krueger
On 22/07/28164 20:59, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > El Martes, 8 de Septiembre de 2009, Grant Slater escribió: >> We also get slightly more OSM operated hardware outside UCL soon. Any >> friendly large hosts out there that can offer us some well bandwidth >> fed hardware/rack space? Maybe a universi

Re: [OSM-dev] what server next?

2009-09-08 Thread Jonas Krückel
Am 08.09.2009 um 12:38 schrieb Iván Sánchez Ortega : > El Martes, 8 de Septiembre de 2009, Grant Slater escribió: >> We also get slightly more OSM operated hardware outside UCL soon. Any >> friendly large hosts out there that can offer us some well bandwidth >> fed hardware/rack space? Maybe a u

Re: [OSM-dev] what server next?

2009-09-08 Thread Thomas Wood
2009/9/8 John Smith : > Hosting OpenLayers.js and some kind of web page would be useful as > well so people with simple web pages could embed a map in an iframe. * osm.org * Export tab * Select Embeddable Html -- Regards, Thomas Wood (Edgemaster) ___

Re: [OSM-dev] what server next?

2009-09-08 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Martes, 8 de Septiembre de 2009, Micha Ruh escribió: [...] > A server calculates user contribution for sets of 3x3 tiles (supertiles) > for each zoom level 12-18. Meh. Precalculating all that would be too time-consuming. I'd rather go 8x8 mod_tile-like meta-tiles and a real-time API for z>12,

Re: [OSM-dev] what server next?

2009-09-08 Thread John Smith
2009/9/8 Iván Sánchez Ortega : > Supposing that we get the rack space, what kind of machine and services would > you like us to host here? Just a mapnik renderer to balance load and improve > tile serving uptime? Hosting OpenLayers.js and some kind of web page would be useful as well so people wi

Re: [OSM-dev] what server next?

2009-09-08 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Martes, 8 de Septiembre de 2009, Grant Slater escribió: > We also get slightly more OSM operated hardware outside UCL soon. Any > friendly large hosts out there that can offer us some well bandwidth > fed hardware/rack space? Maybe a university in North America? The spanish local chapter *may*

[OSM-dev] Keeping .osm database up-to-date

2009-09-08 Thread Richard Ive
Having got mod_tile working nicely (Thanks everyone for their help!) I was wondering what the best method of keeping the database up-to-date using osm2pgsql is. Is it easy to run a cron that downloads the daily diff which you can then run an: ./osm2pgsql -a -m -d gis ../planet-date.osm.gz on? (I'd

Re: [OSM-dev] what server next?

2009-09-08 Thread Tom Hughes
On 08/09/09 08:02, Patrick Petschge Kilian wrote: > The first one would be a (decently fast) OSMXAPI server. Since the 0.6 API > switch there seems to be a shortage of XAPI servers. If there was a > stable, fast and up to date XAPI server it would help lots of people and > it might reduce load on

Re: [OSM-dev] what server next?

2009-09-08 Thread Tom Hughes
On 08/09/09 08:21, Florian Lohoff wrote: > Sometimes i'd like to actively contact mappers in that distant region and > mostly i dont care what they are called - simply - send email to top most > recently active mappers in that region. This has been discussed a number of times - it's not something

Re: [OSM-dev] what server next?

2009-09-08 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 05:47:04AM +0200, Micha Ruh wrote: > Score-points get calculated per supertile, top 4 contributors for each > supertile including their score-points get stored in a database, the > attribution-db. Keys and indexes on zoom level and new supertile index > (maybe central tile x

Re: [OSM-dev] what server next?

2009-09-08 Thread Patrick Petschge
Hi all, > We have recently had: db (smaug new) (1), rails (sarel, norbert & draco. > extra cpu) (2), tile (yevaud new), dev (errol new), xapi > (fafnir. 2x300GB 10kRPM WD Raptor) (2), pg_namefinder (katie. 2x300GB > 10kRPM WD Raptor) (2, 5), OSMF (Ridley. 2x750GB WD) (2) and soon wiki (?. > HPDL36