Re: [OSM-dev] ESRI article sent by a friend

2010-07-16 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/7/12 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 12-07-10 14:15, Mike N. schreef: If the filters are predefined and the data is never shown for editing or rendering, why have it? For the simple reason that there is not only one rendering of

Re: [OSM-dev] ESRI article sent by a friend

2010-07-16 Thread Jan Sandbrink
Don't know if you can really make a hard cut, saying what is an import and what not. Or to make it more clear: What is the difference between a good import of some data that is 10 years old and a mapper that is drawing areas based on some landsat-imagery (which is as far as i know from 2003)?

Re: [OSM-dev] ESRI article sent by a friend

2010-07-15 Thread Mike N.
Outdated and wrong data won't correct itself as it ages. Not to pick on these guys, but http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/peoriagisupload Account for uploading automated edits of 1997 Peoria County planimetrics data. This data is freely available because of the caducity and decrepitude

Re: [OSM-dev] ESRI article sent by a friend

2010-07-12 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 12-07-10 07:25, Alan Mintz schreef: 1. It's not ignored if users have to stumble over duplicate data when editing and either reconcile (which should have been done

Re: [OSM-dev] ESRI article sent by a friend

2010-07-12 Thread Mike N.
1. It's not ignored if users have to stumble over duplicate data when editing and either reconcile (which should have been done by the importing person) or ignore it. Editor, software, issue. A good editor selectively filters out information, so that the user doesn't get an information

Re: [OSM-dev] ESRI article sent by a friend

2010-07-12 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 12-07-10 14:15, Mike N. schreef: If the filters are predefined and the data is never shown for editing or rendering, why have it? For the simple reason that there is not only one rendering of /the/ OpenStreetMap map. Referring to the same

Re: [OSM-dev] ESRI article sent by a friend

2010-07-11 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2010-07-10 14:55, John Smith wrote: On 11 July 2010 07:32, Thomas Emge te...@esri.com wrote: ... Some like to think there is 2 types of importing, implopping is where people blindly upload data without checking what they are importing or what already exists, ...which is unacceptable in any

Re: [OSM-dev] ESRI article sent by a friend

2010-07-11 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 12-07-10 06:57, Alan Mintz schreef: At 2010-07-10 14:55, John Smith wrote: On 11 July 2010 07:32, Thomas Emge te...@esri.com wrote: ... Some like to think there is 2 types of importing, implopping is where people blindly upload data without

Re: [OSM-dev] ESRI article sent by a friend

2010-07-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 July 2010 15:11, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: So why is this /so/ unacceptable? The renderer decides what to render. If we end up in rendering only a specific subset of data, for example from a list of users that we trust. Then any import is just ignored, until something

Re: [OSM-dev] ESRI article sent by a friend

2010-07-11 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2010-07-11 22:11, Stefan de Konink wrote: Op 12-07-10 06:57, Alan Mintz schreef: At 2010-07-10 14:55, John Smith wrote: On 11 July 2010 07:32, Thomas Emge te...@esri.com wrote: ... Some like to think there is 2 types of importing, implopping is where people blindly upload data without

[OSM-dev] ESRI article sent by a friend

2010-07-10 Thread Mhogeweg
mhoge...@esri.com recommends this article from ESRI. Esri Releases ArcGIS Editor for OpenStreetMap: http://www.esri.com/news/releases/10_3qtr/openstreetmap.html ESRI has released a free and open source add-on to ArcGIS

Re: [OSM-dev] ESRI article sent by a friend

2010-07-10 Thread John Smith
There was a couple of other threads on other lists about this: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-July/051583.html http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/2010-July/000614.html Including some questions about relational support:

Re: [OSM-dev] ESRI article sent by a friend

2010-07-10 Thread Marten Hogeweg
] Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 11:37 AM To: Marten Hogeweg Cc: Dev@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] ESRI article sent by a friend There was a couple of other threads on other lists about this: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-July/051583.html http://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-dev] ESRI article sent by a friend

2010-07-10 Thread Thomas Emge
From: dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org [dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of John Smith [deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 11:36 AM To: Marten Hogeweg Cc: Dev@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] ESRI article sent by a friend There was a couple of other

Re: [OSM-dev] ESRI article sent by a friend

2010-07-10 Thread John Smith
On 11 July 2010 07:32, Thomas Emge te...@esri.com wrote: As far as (bulk) imports are concerned that functionality is missing as well (intentionally). As Lennard mentioned one should be careful to just take a shapefile and hit import. We would like to know if import capability is of