Re: [OSM-dev] Renderer issue: highway=service and service=driveway?

2014-01-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014/1/8 Pierre Béland > The images in the Highway tag usage wiki page give implicitely > instructions to take care of the quality of the road to classify. But it is > stated at the beginning of the page, that it is sometimes useful to adapt > *highway >

Re: [OSM-dev] Renderer issue: highway=service and service=driveway?

2014-01-08 Thread Mark Newnham
Regards Mark From: Pierre Béland To: Martin Koppenhoefer Cc: "dev@openstreetmap.org" Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Renderer issue: highway=service and service=driveway? Martin The images in the Highway tag u

Re: [OSM-dev] Renderer issue: highway=service and service=driveway?

2014-01-08 Thread Pierre Béland
2014 7h30 Objet : Re: [OSM-dev] Renderer issue: highway=service and service=driveway? 2014/1/8 Pierre Béland In this particular case, if there was a hierarchy of roads, it would be less a problem if the rule that I proposed was followed. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag

Re: [OSM-dev] Renderer issue: highway=service and service=driveway?

2014-01-08 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Pieren, If that's the case, then the european centric stuff should go to an extra page, but what you referred to with the africa page [1] IMHO perfectly fits into a global definition. Probably for some countries the last short paragraph may be not that relevant, but that doesn't turn it to be wr

Re: [OSM-dev] Renderer issue: highway=service and service=driveway?

2014-01-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014/1/8 Pieren > However, I see some interest to have a specific documentation for > Africa. > agreed. FYI, I have changed the description on this page for tracks (before: connection roads between hamlets, after: agricultural and forestry use only). Be it in Africa or not, if a road has connec

Re: [OSM-dev] Renderer issue: highway=service and service=driveway?

2014-01-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014/1/8 Greg Troxel > First, set motorway aside. We know what the motorway rules are, and all > motorways are important (to first order). > +1 > Then, in a non-motorway > world, you can ask "what is the shortest typical distance for which many > routes will use this road". Essentially, I'

Re: [OSM-dev] Renderer issue: highway=service and service=driveway?

2014-01-08 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > My suggestion is to delete the page or link to the > specific pages in to keep the wiki maintainable. Duplicating the same > information over and over again has no sense and raises the risk for > inconsistencies. +1 to remove duplicates. Howev

Re: [OSM-dev] Renderer issue: highway=service and service=driveway?

2014-01-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014/1/8 Pierre Béland > In this particular case, if there was a hierarchy of roads, it would be > less a problem if the rule that I proposed was followed. See > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa > I don't understand this page. Not that I had objections with what I read the

Re: [OSM-dev] Renderer issue: highway=service and service=driveway?

2014-01-07 Thread Pierre Béland
nstreetmap.org" Envoyé le : Mardi 7 janvier 2014 20h37 Objet : Re: [OSM-dev] Renderer issue: highway=service and service=driveway? Pierre Béland writes: > In this particular case, if there was a hierarchy of roads, it would > be less a problem if the rule that I proposed was fo

Re: [OSM-dev] Renderer issue: highway=service and service=driveway?

2014-01-07 Thread Greg Troxel
Pierre Béland writes: > In this particular case, if there was a hierarchy of roads, it would > be less a problem if the rule that I proposed was followed. See > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa I think the notion of having primary/secondary be about importance makes sense.

Re: [OSM-dev] Renderer issue: highway=service and service=driveway?

2014-01-07 Thread Pierre Béland
will not take care of these particular contexts. Distance could be one rule, or absence of roads.   Pierre De : Greg Troxel À : Martin Koppenhoefer Cc : "dev@openstreetmap.org" Envoyé le : Mardi 7 janvier 2014 19h17 Objet : Re: [OSM-dev] Rende

Re: [OSM-dev] Renderer issue: highway=service and service=driveway?

2014-01-07 Thread Greg Troxel
Martin Koppenhoefer writes: > service roads are there, it is only the driveways which are > (deliberately I guess) rendered only in high zooms. I think the real issue is that what should be rendered at highish zoom is complicated. For a footway that only goes 20m, having it disappear fairly so

Re: [OSM-dev] Renderer issue: highway=service and service=driveway?

2014-01-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 06/gen/2014 um 14:58 schrieb Nick Whitelegg : > > On the other hand I would probably make service roads appear on the same zoom > level as footpaths otherwise you're going to get "disappearing footpaths" > like this if a footpath follows a service road. service roads are there, it is on

Re: [OSM-dev] Renderer issue: highway=service and service=driveway?

2014-01-06 Thread Nick Whitelegg
sappearing footpaths" like this if a footpath follows a service road. Nick -"Ed Loach" wrote: - To: "'Nick Whitelegg'" , From: "Ed Loach" Date: 06/01/2014 11:33AM Subject: RE: [OSM-dev] Renderer issue: highway=service and service=driveway? Zoom i

Re: [OSM-dev] Renderer issue: highway=service and service=driveway?

2014-01-06 Thread Ed Loach
Zoom in. Footpaths are perhaps visible too soon. Ed From: Nick Whitelegg [mailto:nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk] Sent: 06 January 2014 11:17 To: dev@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-dev] Renderer issue: highway=service and service=driveway? Hi, Have noticed an issue with the main mapnik

[OSM-dev] Renderer issue: highway=service and service=driveway?

2014-01-06 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hi, Have noticed an issue with the main mapnik renderer regarding service roads. It seems that a way tagged with "highway=service" and "service=driveway" is not rendered (I'm guessing that's the problem). Two examples can be found at http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/96876 In both cases the