Re: [OSM-dev] USGS fork of OpenStreetMap

2010-07-30 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Hi, Will this USGS project be worldwide? I have some of my original work from Finland stored as local .osm files and I would like to see them to be in the public domain some day. -Jukka Rahkonen- Eric Wolf wrote: > Yes. I realized after I sent the email that I meant to say ODbL but then > read

Re: [OSM-dev] USGS fork of OpenStreetMap

2010-07-29 Thread John Smith
On 30 July 2010 15:04, Alan Millar wrote: > When I started working on OSM, I wondered why some people thought all of the > data should be PD. It wasn't until later that I realized that this is one > of the good reasons for it. In the case of US data sure, but other governments release data under

Re: [OSM-dev] USGS fork of OpenStreetMap

2010-07-29 Thread Alan Millar
On Jul 29, 2010, at 9:47 AM, Eric Wolf wrote: Yes. I realized after I sent the email that I meant to say ODbL but then read more on the wiki about the current license OSM uses: CC- BY-SA. Yet the end result is the same. The USGS is funded to produce public domain data. So either Congress or t

Re: [OSM-dev] USGS fork of OpenStreetMap

2010-07-29 Thread Eric Wolf
Yes. I realized after I sent the email that I meant to say ODbL but then read more on the wiki about the current license OSM uses: CC-BY-SA. Yet the end result is the same. The USGS is funded to produce public domain data. So either Congress or the President have to change what the USGS is funded t

Re: [OSM-dev] USGS fork of OpenStreetMap

2010-07-29 Thread 80n
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:18 AM, Eric Wolf wrote: > The OODB license that OSM uses places requirements on data consumers. Eric, it's really neither accurate nor helpful to refer to OSM as being licensed under OODB... ;) I guess you intended to say ODbL instead of OODB, but even so, neither is

Re: [OSM-dev] USGS fork of OpenStreetMap

2010-07-29 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El día Thursday 29 July 2010 16:11:38, Eric Wolf dijo: > [...] You are correct in that we are not forking OSM because we > are not starting with any forking OSM data. > > I will try harder not to fork up the conversation any further. Would you > prefer the forking project be called the "USGS spoon"

Re: [OSM-dev] USGS fork of OpenStreetMap

2010-07-29 Thread Eric Wolf
I'm sorry I created so much forking confusion. I used the forking term originally because someone else referred to another forking project that way. I used it the second time because Paul asked me a forking question about the fork. You are correct in that we are not forking OSM because we are not s

Re: [OSM-dev] USGS fork of OpenStreetMap

2010-07-29 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:18 AM, Eric Wolf wrote: > Of course, this means all of the data in a USGS fork can be put into OSM. Eric, it's really neither accurate nor helpful to keep referring to this independent USGS project as a fork of OSM. You are simply starting afresh, from an empty database

Re: [OSM-dev] USGS fork of OpenStreetMap

2010-07-28 Thread Eric Wolf
The license issue makes it difficult to dedicate USGS resources for direct contribution to OSM. Specifically, the data the USGS releases has to be completely free from restrictions. The OODB license that OSM uses places requirements on data consumers. There are people exploring shifting the USGS li

Re: [OSM-dev] USGS fork of OpenStreetMap

2010-07-28 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:27:49 -0600, Eric Wolf wrote: > An initial project has started at the USGS to explore using the OSM > stack to facilitate our data integration and, eventually, involve more > user generated content (i.e., give a home to The National Map Corps). > The project is currently tit

Re: [OSM-dev] USGS fork of OpenStreetMap

2010-07-23 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Andy Allan wrote: > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Eric Wolf wrote: >> Folks, >> An initial project has started at the USGS to explore using the OSM stack to >> facilitate our data integration and, eventually, involve more user generated >> content > I just wan

Re: [OSM-dev] USGS fork of OpenStreetMap

2010-07-23 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Eric Wolf wrote: > Folks, > An initial project has started at the USGS to explore using the OSM stack to > facilitate our data integration and, eventually, involve more user generated > content (i.e., give a home to The National Map Corps). The project is > current

Re: [OSM-dev] USGS fork of OpenStreetMap

2010-07-22 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Eric Wolf wrote: > Potlatch, however, just goes into an endless loop of "Please wait - > loading presets" Loading presets is the first API access Potlatch does, using the AMF API which is mainly only used by Potlatch. It will be talking to http://yourservername/api/0.6/amf/read (sending it the '

[OSM-dev] USGS fork of OpenStreetMap

2010-07-22 Thread Eric Wolf
Folks, An initial project has started at the USGS to explore using the OSM stack to facilitate our data integration and, eventually, involve more user generated content (i.e., give a home to The National Map Corps). The project is currently titled the OpenStreetMap Collaborative Prototype (OSMCP).