Re: [OSM-dev] Chopped of ways. Change Default or remove ID

2008-08-14 Thread Marcus Wolschon
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:56:26 +0200, Jochen Topf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 03:44:57PM +1000, Brett Henderson wrote: Karl Newman wrote: Even still, it's a valid concern and there are other operations (i.e., cutting into tiles or tag transforms) that can manipulate the

Re: [OSM-dev] Chopped of ways. Change Default or remove ID

2008-08-14 Thread Brett Henderson
Wolschon Softwaredesign und Beratung wrote: On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:31:04 +0200, Jochen Topf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose to not modify ways by default and to remove the way-id of ways that are modified during extraction. What should a tool care if the way references node-ids that it

Re: [OSM-dev] Chopped of ways. Change Default or remove ID

2008-08-14 Thread Jochen Topf
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 07:09:26PM +1000, Brett Henderson wrote: Wolschon Softwaredesign und Beratung wrote: On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:31:04 +0200, Jochen Topf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose to not modify ways by default and to remove the way-id of ways that are modified during

Re: [OSM-dev] Chopped of ways. Change Default or remove ID

2008-08-14 Thread Marcus Wolschon
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:06:13 +0100, Nick Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then just flip the sign of the ID to make it a negative number, (unless negative IDs already have some meaning of which I'm not aware). Negative IDs mean new entities that, if uploaded, will be created. This is not

Re: [OSM-dev] Chopped of ways. Change Default or remove ID

2008-08-14 Thread Jochen Topf
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 02:06:13PM +0100, Nick Austin wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Jochen Topf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 09:46:45AM +0200, Marcus Wolschon wrote: I propose to not modify ways by default and to remove the way-id of ways that are modified

Re: [OSM-dev] Chopped of ways. Change Default or remove ID

2008-08-14 Thread Marcus Wolschon
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:19:00 +0200, Jochen Topf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then just flip the sign of the ID to make it a negative number, (unless negative IDs already have some meaning of which I'm not aware). They have. Negative IDs are used by JOSM and other tools to denote new, not yet

Re: [OSM-dev] Chopped of ways. Change Default or remove ID

2008-08-14 Thread 80n
The proposed version tag in the 0.6 API might actually help here. If the version tag is removed, invalidated, in the munged version of a way, then the 0.6 API should reject any attempt to upload it. On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Marcus Wolschon [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, 14 Aug 2008