Re: [OSM-dev] Schema for v0.6 OSM files?
On 2012-03-27, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 27/03/12 16:53, Robert Helgesson wrote: I'm wondering, does anybody have an up-to-date XML Schema or DTD for the OSM files used by the v0.6 API? The ones I found at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6/XSD and http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6/DTD don't seem to fully represent the format. Those are both user contributed and quite likely permanently out of date as none of the developers will be likely to update them. Ok, thanks for the warning and I see that somebody has added the warning to the wiki-pages I linked. Anyway, I'll use the 'natural language' documentation on the wiki instead. /Robert ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Schema for v0.6 OSM files?
We're speaking of about three pages of XML and that is not that big thing. Of course I could do it but who - if not the developers - would know better than they themselves? I think that it would be a sign of maturity of the OSM project if an XML schema would exist! Just my 2 cents. -Stefan 2012/3/28 Robert Helgesson rob...@rycee.net: On 2012-03-27, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 27/03/12 16:53, Robert Helgesson wrote: I'm wondering, does anybody have an up-to-date XML Schema or DTD for the OSM files used by the v0.6 API? The ones I found at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6/XSD and http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6/DTD don't seem to fully represent the format. Those are both user contributed and quite likely permanently out of date as none of the developers will be likely to update them. Ok, thanks for the warning and I see that somebody has added the warning to the wiki-pages I linked. Anyway, I'll use the 'natural language' documentation on the wiki instead. /Robert ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Schema for v0.6 OSM files?
Hi, On 03/28/12 17:08, Stefan Keller wrote: We're speaking of about three pages of XML and that is not that big thing. Of course I could do it but who - if not the developers - would know better than they themselves? I think that it would be a sign of maturity of the OSM project if an XML schema would exist! It is easy to write an XML schema but it would never be binding for anyone. The problem is that people would still assume that the schema was somehow the gold standard and every OSM XML file that they ever see would comply to that standard, and that is simply not the case. For example, JOSM writes almost-compatible OSM XML but has an additional action attribute. Of course someone only looking at the API code would not know that there are files with such an attribute. So would it be included in the standard or not? And if not, it's not going to be long until someone pops up on the JOSM list and complains that JOSM was writing invalid files (because they don't comply with the standard). There are other tools that do similar things. I think the better way is to think of our XML as a general, weakly formatted exchange format, instead of something that conforms to a given schema. Think of our XML as if it were JSON. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] Schema for v0.6 OSM files?
I'm wondering, does anybody have an up-to-date XML Schema or DTD for the OSM files used by the v0.6 API? The ones I found at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6/XSD and http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6/DTD don't seem to fully represent the format. For example, using xmllint to validate a downloaded relation gives the following result: $ wget http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/65559 $ xmllint --noout --schema osm0.6.xsd 65559 65559:3: element relation: Schemas validity error : Element 'relation', attribute 'uid': The attribute 'uid' is not allowed. 65559 fails to validate $ xmllint --noout --dtdvalid osm0.6.dtd 65559 65559:3: element relation: validity error : No declaration for attribute version of element relation 65559:3: element relation: validity error : No declaration for attribute uid of element relation Document 65559 does not validate against osm0.6.dtd Note, the DTD and XML Schema even seem to disagree with each other as to whether relations may have a version attribute. Regards, Robert ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Schema for v0.6 OSM files?
On 27/03/12 16:53, Robert Helgesson wrote: I'm wondering, does anybody have an up-to-date XML Schema or DTD for the OSM files used by the v0.6 API? The ones I found at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6/XSD and http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6/DTD don't seem to fully represent the format. Those are both user contributed and quite likely permanently out of date as none of the developers will be likely to update them. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
