Re: [OSM-dev] Wishlist API/db: bot-flag WAS new contributor terms ID list
2010/8/27 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com: While we're at it I want to point out that anyone can tag their edits with bot=yes if their changes are likely to be uninteresting to a casual mapper looking for something in the history tab. I've ...also used bot=yes on many manual edits, IMHO you shouldn't do this. cheers, Martin ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Wishlist API/db: bot-flag WAS new contributor terms ID list
On 27 August 2010 12:16, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/8/27 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com: While we're at it I want to point out that anyone can tag their edits with bot=yes if their changes are likely to be uninteresting to a casual mapper looking for something in the history tab. I've ...also used bot=yes on many manual edits, IMHO you shouldn't do this. Why? Cheers ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Wishlist API/db: bot-flag WAS new contributor terms ID list
2010/8/27 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com: I've ...also used bot=yes on many manual edits, IMHO you shouldn't do this. Why? because thereby you are flagging them as automated edits which they aren't. Cheers, Martin ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Wishlist API/db: bot-flag WAS new contributor terms ID list
On 27 August 2010 16:19, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/8/27 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com: I've ...also used bot=yes on many manual edits, IMHO you shouldn't do this. Why? because thereby you are flagging them as automated edits which they aren't. Perhaps fixbot is highly automated but other than that the bots that run on OSM are hardly ever fully automated, in my experience there's always some (or a lot of) manual work to do before upload. So the question is how a bot edit is defined, is it an edit that doesn't bring in new data, just amends what is already in OSM? Or (what I actually wanted to propose, but expressed it wrongly) let's use the flag as meaning uninteresting or likely not the edit you're looking for. This is the same function that this is a minor edit on wikipedia has. Cheers ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Wishlist API/db: bot-flag WAS new contributor terms ID list
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:51 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 August 2010 16:19, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/8/27 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com: I've ...also used bot=yes on many manual edits, IMHO you shouldn't do this. Why? because thereby you are flagging them as automated edits which they aren't. Perhaps fixbot is highly automated but other than that the bots that run on OSM are hardly ever fully automated, in my experience there's always some (or a lot of) manual work to do before upload. So the question is how a bot edit is defined, is it an edit that doesn't bring in new data, just amends what is already in OSM? Or (what I actually wanted to propose, but expressed it wrongly) let's use the flag as meaning uninteresting or likely not the edit you're looking for. This is the same function that this is a minor edit on wikipedia has. Then mark your changes as minor edits. And then everyone can ignore the mark, since I see people (especially on the OSM wiki) trying to sneak through changes as minor when they are anything but. Really, the problem is not whether or not changes are done by bots or not. The issue is that you want to see what's changed in the particular area - by a human, by a bot, by a human pretending to be a bot, or whatever. That problem is solved by OWL, not by flagging changesets in any way. Cheers, Andy ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Wishlist API/db: bot-flag WAS new contributor terms ID list
Hi, On 25 August 2010 18:20, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/8/25 André Riedel riedel.an...@gmail.com: At least xybot adds bot=yes to the changeset. It would be nice to exclude them (checkbox) from the history: http://www.openstreetmap.org/history?bbox=12.5679%2C42.8836%2C12.8501%2C43.0213 While we're at it I want to point out that anyone can tag their edits with bot=yes if their changes are likely to be uninteresting to a casual mapper looking for something in the history tab. I've done some automated edits but have also used bot=yes on many manual edits, specially those spanning big areas. Cheers ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] Wishlist API/db: bot-flag WAS new contributor terms ID list
2010/8/25 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: A possible problem for those who are interested only in humans is that we don't have a bot flag in the database so what's a bot and what not is anybody's guess. Wouldn't that be generally a nice to have for the future? If you see an edit that doesn't seem right and know that it was executed by a bot you can exclude local knowledge when judging. It would also be nice to see the changeset-list with the option bots excluded to see who is really active in a certain area. cheers, Martin ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Wishlist API/db: bot-flag WAS new contributor terms ID list
2010/8/25 André Riedel riedel.an...@gmail.com: At least xybot adds bot=yes to the changeset. It would be nice to exclude them (checkbox) from the history: http://www.openstreetmap.org/history?bbox=12.5679%2C42.8836%2C12.8501%2C43.0213 cheers, Martin ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
