Re: [OSM-dev] X-Prizes

2008-03-19 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
SteveC wrote: On 18 Mar 2008, at 17:03, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Anyone have any thoughts on whether it would fly? It might but I fear that the coding community would be adversely affected to a point where people don't work unless paid, or free time programmers get shot down for

Re: [OSM-dev] X-Prizes

2008-03-19 Thread Gervase Markham
SteveC wrote: Anselm suggested that it might be good for us to sponsor X-Prize[1] type things within OSM. Some example might be a prize for getting routing working on the main site, getting name finder up again, making potlatch use the main API and so on. Anyone have any thoughts on

Re: [OSM-dev] X-Prizes

2008-03-19 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Gervase Markham wrote: Paying bounties or other rewards within a volunteer project is a large can of worms. Some projects manage it, others go down in flames. Apache has refused to pay _anyone_ for years for this reason, although I think now they are getting around to employing a sysadmin

Re: [OSM-dev] X-Prizes

2008-03-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, But there are a few really big ones. These are reliant on our few developers being able to take a break from fire-fighting, which we're doing a lot of the time, and diving into them. It's great when this happens Maybe it would be worthwile to try to get more capable people on board,

Re: [OSM-dev] X-Prizes

2008-03-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Anyone have any thoughts on whether it would fly? It might but I fear that the coding community would be adversely affected to a point where people don't work unless paid, or free time programmers get shot down for taking away cash from others, whatever. Currently if someone says

Re: [OSM-dev] X-Prizes

2008-03-18 Thread SteveC
On 18 Mar 2008, at 17:03, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Anyone have any thoughts on whether it would fly? It might but I fear that the coding community would be adversely affected to a point where people don't work unless paid, or free time programmers get shot down for taking away cash

Re: [OSM-dev] X-Prizes

2008-03-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, are there examples of where this has happened in other projects? None that I know of. There's some discourse about this online, good starting point is http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/06/18/crowding-out-of-intrinsic-motivations-aka-the-bounty-problem/ but it's all rather inconclusive and

Re: [OSM-dev] X-Prizes

2008-03-18 Thread Anselm Hook
Where the x-prize approach seems to have worked is in creating press and awareness, bringing new participants to the table, leveling the field. It seems to work in particular as a complement to government bureaucracies which while well funded just seem unable to innovate. It may also be best for

Re: [OSM-dev] X-Prizes

2008-03-18 Thread graham
SteveC wrote: On 18 Mar 2008, at 17:03, Frederik Ramm wrote: I fear that the coding community would be adversely affected to a point where people don't work unless paid, or free time programmers get shot down for taking away cash from others, whatever. are there examples of where this