Re: Review Request 13683: Proton: provide accessor for drain state from link's peer.

2013-08-22 Thread Philip Harvey
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[jira] [Created] (QPIDJMS-4) Add findbugs configuration

2013-08-22 Thread Philip Harvey (JIRA)
Philip Harvey created QPIDJMS-4: --- Summary: Add findbugs configuration Key: QPIDJMS-4 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPIDJMS-4 Project: Qpid JMS Issue Type: Improvement

Re: UTF8 / binary strings in dynamic languages

2013-08-22 Thread Gordon Sim
On 08/21/2013 10:43 PM, Justin Ross wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Jimmy Jones jimmyjon...@gmx.co.uk wrote: I'm not convinced, but I'm prepared to be convinced. If I put a binary value in a map and encoded it some of the time it might be valid utf8, other times not. Could this lead to

a request regarding crossposting

2013-08-22 Thread Gordon Sim
I believe that the dev list audience is a strict sub-set of the user list audience. Crossposting to both user and dev lists is therefore unnecessary and almost inevitably in any case leads to threads diverging. Where a thread evolves only on the dev list valuable information is missed on the

Re: UTF8 / binary strings in dynamic languages

2013-08-22 Thread Andrew Stitcher
On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 11:31 -0400, Justin Ross wrote: Jimmy, thanks for getting this started. I'd love your feedback to help sort this out. I think these are the cases: 1. If the language string is unambiguously textual, send it as amqp str16 2. If the language string is unambiguously

Re: UTF8 / binary strings in dynamic languages

2013-08-22 Thread Justin Ross
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/21/2013 10:43 PM, Justin Ross wrote: If I put a binary value in a map and encoded it some of the time it might be valid utf8, other times not. This shouldn't be allowed to happen, IMO. You meant it to be a binary

Re: a request regarding crossposting

2013-08-22 Thread Justin Ross
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote: I believe that the dev list audience is a strict sub-set of the user list audience. I doubt this is the case. I for one was a dev list subscriber for a long time without having subscribed to user. I agree about the trouble

Re: a request regarding crossposting

2013-08-22 Thread Gordon Sim
On 08/22/2013 03:43 PM, Justin Ross wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote: I believe that the dev list audience is a strict sub-set of the user list audience. I doubt this is the case. I for one was a dev list subscriber for a long time without having

Re: UTF8 / binary strings in dynamic languages

2013-08-22 Thread Gordon Sim
On 08/22/2013 03:36 PM, Justin Ross wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/21/2013 10:43 PM, Justin Ross wrote: If I put a binary value in a map and encoded it some of the time it might be valid utf8, other times not. This shouldn't be allowed to

Re: a request regarding crossposting

2013-08-22 Thread Justin Ross
I certainly agree with all of that, but it misses a category of mailing list subscriber: at the time I was not a Qpid developer, but I was interested in following Qpid development. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/22/2013 03:43 PM, Justin Ross wrote: On

Re: a request regarding crossposting

2013-08-22 Thread Gordon Sim
On 08/22/2013 04:00 PM, Justin Ross wrote: I certainly agree with all of that, but it misses a category of mailing list subscriber: at the time I was not a Qpid developer, but I was interested in following Qpid development. I don't think you can properly follow development without following

Re: a request regarding crossposting

2013-08-22 Thread Justin Ross
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/22/2013 04:00 PM, Justin Ross wrote: I certainly agree with all of that, but it misses a category of mailing list subscriber: at the time I was not a Qpid developer, but I was interested in following Qpid development.

Re: UTF8 / binary strings in dynamic languages

2013-08-22 Thread Justin Ross
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote: Right. I'm saying that sucks, so don't do that. For instance, we could ask our users to use a 'Data' class to input arbitrary bytes, and otherwise treat ambiguous strings as textual. The point is that it is easy for people

Re: a request regarding crossposting

2013-08-22 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 04:10:03PM +0100, Gordon Sim wrote: On 08/22/2013 04:00 PM, Justin Ross wrote: I certainly agree with all of that, but it misses a category of mailing list subscriber: at the time I was not a Qpid developer, but I was interested in following Qpid development. I don't

Re: a request regarding crossposting

2013-08-22 Thread Gordon Sim
On 08/22/2013 04:35 PM, Justin Ross wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/22/2013 04:00 PM, Justin Ross wrote: I certainly agree with all of that, but it misses a category of mailing list subscriber: at the time I was not a Qpid developer, but I was

Re: a request regarding crossposting

2013-08-22 Thread Fraser Adams
FWIW I totally agree with Gordon here. If you subscribe so the thinking of Gregorio Robles paper http://www.opensourcejahrbuch.de/download/jb2004/chapter_03/III-3-Robles.pdf among other things he says: Users should be treated as co-developers The users are treated like co-developers and

[jira] [Commented] (QPID-5079) Only export necessary symbols from the supported client API libraries

2013-08-22 Thread ASF subversion and git services (JIRA)
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[jira] [Commented] (QPID-5079) Only export necessary symbols from the supported client API libraries

2013-08-22 Thread ASF subversion and git services (JIRA)
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[jira] [Commented] (QPID-5079) Only export necessary symbols from the supported client API libraries

2013-08-22 Thread ASF subversion and git services (JIRA)
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[jira] [Commented] (QPID-5079) Only export necessary symbols from the supported client API libraries

2013-08-22 Thread ASF subversion and git services (JIRA)
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