Re: [racket-dev] memory consumption (bug?) on Debian/kFreeBSD-i386

2011-04-29 Thread David Bremner
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 08:46:32 -0600, Matthew Flatt wrote: > I've pushed fixes for kFreeBSD, so let me know if you encounter further > problems. > The latest commit (b5f86a26...) seems to fix all the remaining problems I know about. The current git master builds, build collects, and passes minimal

Re: [racket-dev] Final(?) draft for v5.1.1

2011-04-29 Thread Robby Findler
That looks better to me. On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > Two minutes ago, Robby Findler wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Matthew Flatt wrote: >> > I couldn't resist an editing pass to give the bullets a more consistent >> > style. >> > >> > Matthias: I re-wrote y

Re: [racket-dev] Final(?) draft for v5.1.1

2011-04-29 Thread Eli Barzilay
Two minutes ago, Robby Findler wrote: > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Matthew Flatt wrote: > > I couldn't resist an editing pass to give the bullets a more consistent > > style. > > > > Matthias: I re-wrote your universe bullet in an attempt to clarify that > > the universe API didn't change --

Re: [racket-dev] Final(?) draft for v5.1.1

2011-04-29 Thread Robby Findler
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Matthew Flatt wrote: > I couldn't resist an editing pass to give the bullets a more consistent > style. > > Matthias: I re-wrote your universe bullet in an attempt to clarify that > the universe API didn't change --- only the network protocol, if I > understand cor

Re: [racket-dev] Final(?) draft for v5.1.1

2011-04-29 Thread Matthias Felleisen
On Apr 29, 2011, at 5:16 PM, Matthew Flatt wrote: > Matthias: I re-wrote your universe bullet in an attempt to clarify that > the universe API didn't change --- only the network protocol, if I > understand correctly. Please check. This is correct. ___

Re: [racket-dev] Final(?) draft for v5.1.1

2011-04-29 Thread Matthew Flatt
I couldn't resist an editing pass to give the bullets a more consistent style. Matthias: I re-wrote your universe bullet in an attempt to clarify that the universe API didn't change --- only the network protocol, if I understand correctly. Please check. R

[racket-dev] Gracket.app?

2011-04-29 Thread Robby Findler
Is there any reason to keep Gracket.app? Robby _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev

Re: [racket-dev] release blurb for 5.1.1 (Eli Barzilay)

2011-04-29 Thread James Swaine
That sounds fine to me. -James On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > 40 minutes ago, James Swaine wrote: > > Here's the release note for futures: > > > > - futures: added fsemaphores; 'future' primitive now no longer > > freezes futures; improved the logging messages futures

[racket-dev] Final(?) draft for v5.1.1

2011-04-29 Thread Eli Barzilay
Unless I hear otherwise, the below is the final announcement, and I'll go on with finishing the release. (Probably late tonight.) -- Racket version 5.1.1 is now available from http://racket-lang.org/ * The new `racket/stream'

Re: [racket-dev] release blurb for 5.1.1 (Eli Barzilay)

2011-04-29 Thread Eli Barzilay
40 minutes ago, James Swaine wrote: > Here's the release note for futures: > > - futures: added fsemaphores; 'future' primitive now no longer > freezes futures; improved the logging messages futures produce How about this: * futures: added `fsemaphore' values to `racket/future'; the

Re: [racket-dev] release blurb for 5.1.1 (Eli Barzilay)

2011-04-29 Thread James Swaine
Here's the release note for futures: - futures: added fsemaphores; 'future' primitive now no longer freezes futures; improved the logging messages futures produce -James On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:05 PM, wrote: > Send dev mailing list submissions to >dev@racket-lang.org > > To subsc

[racket-dev] Release Announcement for v5.1.1

2011-04-29 Thread Eli Barzilay
The release announcement sketch that I have so far is below. Please mail me new items and/or other edits. Still missing: - Stephen: lazy racket news - Casey: Redex news? - James/Matthew: futures news? (future semaphores, `future' in future, more ...) ---

Re: [racket-dev] racket vs. scheme vs. clojure (as it appears to others)

2011-04-29 Thread Joe Marshall
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > > 2. Could you point me to a criteria that classify Racket as a 'fringe' > language > and Clojure as a non-fringe language? This is no criterion, but it is suggestive: http://www.google.com/insights/search/#cat=5&q=racket%20-%20tennis%

Re: [racket-dev] racket vs. scheme vs. clojure (as it appears to others)

2011-04-29 Thread Stephen Bloch
The last chapter of _Picturing Programs_ is entitled "Next Steps". It mentions HtDP, HtDP2e, HtDW, HtDC, and a list of advanced Racket topics: the Web server, modules, racket/contract, classes, macros, stand-alone executables, and GUI and graphics libraries. Most of these topics (not to mentio

Re: [racket-dev] racket vs. scheme vs. clojure (as it appears to others)

2011-04-29 Thread Eli Barzilay
8 minutes ago, Danny Yoo wrote: > >>  "Scheme" is usually a liability when someone used it in school > >>  years ago (other than with HtDP). > > Small anecdote: I had gone a small presentation at WPI about > teaching alternative concurrent programming models to > undergraduates. The presenter wan

Re: [racket-dev] release blurb for 5.1.1

2011-04-29 Thread Eli Barzilay
On Tuesday, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > > On Apr 26, 2011, at 3:46 PM, Jon Rafkind wrote: > > > kathy > > * Addition of `define-wish' to the teaching languages and > > corresponding addition of support for wishes in test reports and > > check-expects (7758f508c56) > > This wasn't supposed to go

Re: [racket-dev] racket vs. scheme vs. clojure (as it appears to others)

2011-04-29 Thread Matthias Felleisen
On Apr 29, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Danny Yoo wrote: >>> "Scheme" is usually a liability when someone used it in school years ago >>> (other than with HtDP). > > Small anecdote: I had gone a small presentation at WPI about teaching > alternative concurrent programming models to undergraduates. The

Re: [racket-dev] racket vs. scheme vs. clojure (as it appears to others)

2011-04-29 Thread Danny Yoo
>>  "Scheme" is usually a liability when someone used it in school years ago >> (other than with HtDP). Small anecdote: I had gone a small presentation at WPI about teaching alternative concurrent programming models to undergraduates. The presenter wanted to explore teaching with channels and ac

Re: [racket-dev] racket vs. scheme vs. clojure (as it appears to others)

2011-04-29 Thread Matthias Felleisen
On Apr 29, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Neil Van Dyke wrote: > "Scheme" is usually a liability when someone used it in school years ago > (other than with HtDP). Sad. Thanks for the idea. -- Matthias _ For list-related administrative tasks: http

Re: [racket-dev] racket vs. scheme vs. clojure (as it appears to others)

2011-04-29 Thread Matthias Felleisen
Thanks John for the report. Two questions please: 1. Could you point me to a standards document for Clojure? 2. Could you point me to a criteria that classify Racket as a 'fringe' language and Clojure as a non-fringe language? -- Matthias On Apr 29, 2011, at 10:23 AM, John Clements wrote

Re: [racket-dev] racket vs. scheme vs. clojure (as it appears to others)

2011-04-29 Thread Neil Van Dyke
The Web is full of outdated and/or ill-informed references to PLT and Racket. People see these, and the bad information propagates memetically -- perpetuating and increasing. One thing Racket people could do is a one-time blitz of existing bad info all over the Web, to correct as many of thes

Re: [racket-dev] racket vs. scheme vs. clojure (as it appears to others)

2011-04-29 Thread David Vanderson
What's the benefit of using regexp-match instead of port->string ? Thanks, Dave On 04/29/2011 07:23 AM, John Clements wrote: This is just one random guy, but it's interesting to see how Racket is perceived. Excerpts from a conversation on stackoverflow about Racket: Thanks. And that'

Re: [racket-dev] memory consumption (bug?) on Debian/kFreeBSD-i386

2011-04-29 Thread Matthew Flatt
I've pushed fixes for kFreeBSD, so let me know if you encounter further problems. _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev

[racket-dev] racket vs. scheme vs. clojure (as it appears to others)

2011-04-29 Thread John Clements
This is just one random guy, but it's interesting to see how Racket is perceived. Excerpts from a conversation on stackoverflow about Racket: Thanks. And that's why I'm starting to learn to dislike Scheme, despite everything else. – MCXXIII yesterday In that case, it's a good thing th

Re: [racket-dev] build error on Mac OS

2011-04-29 Thread Robby Findler
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > Two minutes ago, Robby Findler wrote: >> This happens whenever there is an error during the docs build and >> the build is running parallel. > > BTW, the actual error was also stopping the nightly build: > > raco setup: running: redex/redex.sc

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #22588: master branch updated

2011-04-29 Thread Eli Barzilay
Please use `git pull --rebase' to update your repository, to avoid these kind of merge commits. http://git.racket-lang.org/intro.html 11 hours ago, sbl...@racket-lang.org wrote: > ~~ > > 2b33867 Stephen Bloch 2011-04-28 12:15 > : > | Merge branch 'master' of pltgit:plt > : > : *** Tr

Re: [racket-dev] build error on Mac OS

2011-04-29 Thread Eli Barzilay
Two minutes ago, Robby Findler wrote: > This happens whenever there is an error during the docs build and > the build is running parallel. BTW, the actual error was also stopping the nightly build: raco setup: running: redex/redex.scrbl redex.scrbl:2355:49: compile: unbound identifier in module i

Re: [racket-dev] build error on Mac OS

2011-04-29 Thread Robby Findler
This happens whenever there is an error during the docs build and the build is running parallel. (I thought I had submitted a PR on this, but I can't seem to find it now.) Robby On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Stephen Bloch wrote: > % make install > ... > raco setup: --- building documentation

[racket-dev] build error on Mac OS

2011-04-29 Thread Stephen Bloch
% make install ... raco setup: --- building documentation --- procedure loop: expects 1 argument, given 0 === context === /Users/bloch/programming/plt/collects/racket/private/more-scheme.rkt:164:2: select-handler/no-breaks raco setup: error running: (lib redex/redex.scrbl) redex.scrbl:2355:49: