The OS X x86_64 machine for the nightly builds is still down, which is
why there were no nightly builds for a while. To get things updated,
I made a build without that architecture, which is now available.
(Hopefully there will be some replacement machine to continue as usual
soon.)
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Eli Barzilay wrote at 08/13/2011 09:39 PM:
Also: it needs to work when there's no JS. Currently, this is done by
listing all the platform installers in a list -- not pretty, but this
is an exceptional case.
I don't understand this part. If this page's HTML is generated
on-demand, then the
On Aug 13, 2011, at 8:52 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
"They [...] were presented 5 different options for downloading
DrRacket for Mac".
Yes, but was one of them clearly distinguished from the rest, to
indicate "this is probably what you want"?
Yes, by being the first -- which is the same as thin
10 minutes ago, Matthew Flatt wrote:
> I'd like to renew the suggestion that Guillaume works out a concrete
> plan and we take it from there.
I'll be happy for a better layout. (Just as long as it's not a
search+replace of the FF download...)
And something else that I forgot to mention: the ques
Yes, please.
Robby
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Matthew Flatt wrote:
> I'd like to renew the suggestion that Guillaume works out a concrete
> plan and we take it from there.
>
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6 minutes ago, Stephen Bloch wrote:
>
> On Aug 13, 2011, at 8:31 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
>
> >>> Because this whole thread started with someone who was confused
> >>> by the
> >>> existence of this selection.
> >>
> >> No, I think it was someone who was confused by the absence of an
> >> easy,
On Aug 13, 2011, at 8:31 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
Because this whole thread started with someone who was confused
by the
existence of this selection.
No, I think it was someone who was confused by the absence of an
easy, almost-certainly-correct default.
"They [...] were presented 5 differ
Four minutes ago, Stephen Bloch wrote:
>
> On Aug 13, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
>
> > 10 minutes ago, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote:
> >> Yes, but the grey means I'm unlikely to move my cursor over it in
> >> the first place. Why grey it out at all?
> >
> > Because this whole thread st
On Aug 13, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
10 minutes ago, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote:
Yes, but the grey means I'm unlikely to move my cursor over it in
the first place. Why grey it out at all?
Because this whole thread started with someone who was confused by the
existence of this s
10 minutes ago, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote:
> > What I did for that is to change the color when focus moves in.
>
> Yes, but the grey means I'm unlikely to move my cursor over it in
> the first place. Why grey it out at all?
Because this whole thread started with someone who was confused by the
On firefox.com I was surprised to see that what I had always assumed
was an image was actually just CSS magic. Why not just copy it?
> What I did for that is to change the color when focus moves in.
Yes, but the grey means I'm unlikely to move my cursor over it in the
first place. Why grey it o
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> About a minute ago, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote:
>> Thanks for this.
>>
>> I really like the rounded-edge "Download" buttons that most software
>> systems now have. It seems odd to not have one for DrRacket. (I
>> brought this up some years
About a minute ago, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote:
> Thanks for this.
>
> I really like the rounded-edge "Download" buttons that most software
> systems now have. It seems odd to not have one for DrRacket. (I
> brought this up some years ago when these weren't quite so
> prevalent; now they're ubi
Thanks for this.
I really like the rounded-edge "Download" buttons that most software
systems now have. It seems odd to not have one for DrRacket. (I
brought this up some years ago when these weren't quite so prevalent;
now they're ubiquitous.)
The grey of the Platform line makes it look like i
I've done some emphasizing of the download, and de-emphasized the
platform selection: http://racket-lang.org/download/
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Robby Findler wrote at 08/13/2011 06:06 PM:
This is the PLaneT bug reports, not the drracket bug reports.
I suspect that the Racket-knowledge captcha would be even more
appropriate for PLaneT package bug reports than for general Racket bug
reports.
I think that requiring logins will disc
About a minute ago, Robby Findler wrote:
> This is the PLaneT bug reports, not the drracket bug reports.
>
> I'm loathe to restrict that to people that login, but maybe it is
> time for that.
You can use the same captcha that I used in the main bugs page. I can
make the files accessible to plane
This is the PLaneT bug reports, not the drracket bug reports.
I'm loathe to restrict that to people that login, but maybe it is time for that.
Robby
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Neil Van Dyke wrote:
> Captcha that requires a very tiny amount of Racket/Scheme/Lisp knowledge or
> access to a
Captcha that requires a very tiny amount of Racket/Scheme/Lisp knowledge
or access to a working Racket/Scheme interpreter might work. Example
challenges:
(+ 1 2)
(+ 1 (* 2 3))
(apply + (cons 1 (cons 2 '()))
(string-append "x" "y")
If spammers want to spend time on this, hey, maybe they'll get
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Robby Findler
wrote:
> Well, someone has figured out how to defeat the recaptcha thingy and
> I'm now getting about (on average, ish) two spam bug reports per hour
> for the last several days (and a slower, but still annoying rate for
> several weeks before that).
Well, someone has figured out how to defeat the recaptcha thingy and
I'm now getting about (on average, ish) two spam bug reports per hour
for the last several days (and a slower, but still annoying rate for
several weeks before that).
Any advice? (poking around the web suggests that captchas are
10 minutes ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
>
> Is this just an argument about how to name these syntax properties?
Yes -- and that leads to more than "just the name".
> If so, I'm happy with whatever you think I should name it. That
> doesn't seem to get us anywhere on the other questions, tho
5 minutes ago, John Clements wrote:
>
> On Aug 13, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Carl Eastlund wrote:
>
> > How about instead of "in spirit", we focus on program logic.
> > There is no semantic dependence on the typechecker -- Racket can
> > tell what the program does without it. However, programmers
> > ca
On Aug 13, 2011 2:13 PM, "Eli Barzilay" wrote:
>
> Two minutes ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
> > On Aug 13, 2011 1:35 PM, "Carl Eastlund" wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Matthias Felleisen
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Aug 13, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
>
> On Aug 13, 2011 1:35 PM, "Carl Eastlund" wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Matthias Felleisen
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Aug 13, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Eli
Two minutes ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
> On Aug 13, 2011 1:35 PM, "Carl Eastlund" wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Matthias Felleisen
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Aug 13, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Eli Barzilay
>
On Aug 13, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Carl Eastlund wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Matthias Felleisen
> wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 13, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
10 minutes ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
> `m
On Aug 13, 2011 1:35 PM, "Carl Eastlund" wrote:
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Matthias Felleisen
> wrote:
> >
> > On Aug 13, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Eli Barzilay
wrote:
> >>> 10 minutes ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
>
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Matthias Felleisen
wrote:
>
> On Aug 13, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
>>> 10 minutes ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
`match' also currently adds a syntax property to help the Typed
>>
On Aug 13, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
>> 10 minutes ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
>>> `match' also currently adds a syntax property to help the Typed
>>> Racket type checker understand the expansion. Like 'disappeared-
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> 10 minutes ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
>> `match' also currently adds a syntax property to help the Typed
>> Racket type checker understand the expansion. Like 'disappeared-use
>> for Check Syntax, this property is in theory semantically
10 minutes ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
> `match' also currently adds a syntax property to help the Typed
> Racket type checker understand the expansion. Like 'disappeared-use
> for Check Syntax, this property is in theory semantically
> independent of Typed Racket, but only used there.
No, wh
`match' also currently adds a syntax property to help the Typed Racket
type checker understand the expansion. Like 'disappeared-use for
Check Syntax, this property is in theory semantically independent of
Typed Racket, but only used there. And I agree with Robby that I
think this is a good archit
On Aug 13, 2011, at 11:33 AM, Robby Findler wrote:
> FWIW, there is precedent for this kind of thing, namely the properties
> that get added to syntax objects to tell check syntax about bindings
> that aren't in the fully expanded program (and yeah, I know there is a
> pending question about this
An hour ago, Matthias Felleisen wrote:
>
> 1. The existence of Stepper knowledge in the Lazy compiler creates a
>'spiritual' dependency between the Lazy language and a tool in
>DrRacket (= Tool world). QUESTION: does this knowledge ever make
>sense outside of our tool suite? Could it b
An hour ago, John Clements wrote:
>
> Adding dev to followups, hope that's okay with all three of you.
>
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 7:15 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
>
> > The stepper has some function that annotates syntaxes with a
> > stepper specific value. Stephen wanted to use this function but
> >
FWIW, there is precedent for this kind of thing, namely the properties
that get added to syntax objects to tell check syntax about bindings
that aren't in the fully expanded program (and yeah, I know there is a
pending question about this; sorry I haven't had time to look into it
and straighten thi
Doesn't the same problem exist for other tools, such as the Tracer?
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On Aug 13, 2011, at 10:44 AM, John Clements wrote:
> That is, the code for lazy racket contains the knowledge about which things
> should be hidden by the stepper. I would argue, in fact, that this is the
> *right* place for such knowledge. In particular, suppose you're developing
> the lazy
On Aug 13, 2011, at 10:44 AM, John Clements wrote:
>
> Adding dev to followups, hope that's okay with all three of you.
>
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 7:15 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
>
>> A few seconds ago, Matthias Felleisen wrote:
>>>
>>> This sounds wrong. The only way there can be a dependency is v
Adding dev to followups, hope that's okay with all three of you.
On Aug 12, 2011, at 7:15 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> A few seconds ago, Matthias Felleisen wrote:
>>
>> This sounds wrong. The only way there can be a dependency is via
>> require. So how can it not be checkable, never mind copy or
http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay/tmp/201108130832-new.zip
Although there was an error running it
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Neil Toronto wrote:
> Excellent - that helps a lot.
>
> Jay, I've pushed changes that set font size in "pixels" and calculate plot
> margins using the actual sizes of t
On 08/13/2011 05:58 AM, Matthew Flatt wrote:
The Mac's drawing layer equates drawing units and font point sizes,
while the drawing layers for Windows and Unix try to adapt the to the
screen resolution for the conversion of point-sizes to drawing-unit.
For drawing pictures, it usually works bette
At Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:20:23 +0200, Marijn wrote:
> On 06/21/11 09:50, Marijn wrote:
> > On 06/20/11 18:29, Matthew Flatt wrote:
> >> I think I've found the problem and pushed a fix.
> >
> > Thanks for the quick fix Matthew! 1) 2) and 3) are now working fine
> > :) but I do believe borders are sti
At Fri, 12 Aug 2011 21:56:57 -0500, Robby Findler wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Neil Toronto wrote:
> > Can I get a racket/gui expert's help on Jay's machine's output? There are
> > two issues:
> >
> > 1. I have it render text with an 8 point font. On Jay's Mac, it's too small
> > to b
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