Re: [racket-dev] [racket] match and debug in Advanced Student

2011-11-08 Thread Jay McCarthy
I have no idea what the Debug button does... I call it the "Crash DrRacket" button, because that's what it did in the early 2000s when I started with Racket. I'm not sure I'm the best person to debug this (despite otherwise being responsible for match in ASL.) Anyone else have ideas what this could

Re: [racket-dev] no backtrace for error in macro

2011-11-08 Thread Robby Findler
That syntax object is passed to raise-syntax-error; is that something that the macro stepper can find? Robby On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Jon Rafkind wrote: > On 11/08/2011 11:18 AM, Robby Findler wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Jon Rafkind wrote: >>> I guess runtime stack traces

Re: [racket-dev] no backtrace for error in macro

2011-11-08 Thread Jon Rafkind
On 11/08/2011 11:18 AM, Robby Findler wrote: > On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Jon Rafkind wrote: >> I guess runtime stack traces won't help. It would be nice to see all the >> locations the syntax went through in its lifetime. Maybe it could be stored >> as a syntax property? > You mean you co

Re: [racket-dev] no backtrace for error in macro

2011-11-08 Thread Jon Rafkind
I guess runtime stack traces won't help. It would be nice to see all the locations the syntax went through in its lifetime. Maybe it could be stored as a syntax property? Although most likely this had been thought of before and rejected for whatever reason. On 11/08/2011 11:08 AM, Robby Findle

Re: [racket-dev] no backtrace for error in macro

2011-11-08 Thread Robby Findler
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Jon Rafkind wrote: > I guess runtime stack traces won't help. It would be nice to see all the > locations the syntax went through in its lifetime. Maybe it could be stored > as a syntax property? You mean you could, say, click on some subexpression in step N and

Re: [racket-dev] no backtrace for error in macro

2011-11-08 Thread Robby Findler
I'm sorry. Nothing is coming to mind (and just to be clear, turning on stacktraces for the errors won't help, right?). Robby On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Jon Rafkind wrote: > So is there a more efficient way to debug the issue than looking at the macro > debugger that you know of? > > Also

Re: [racket-dev] no backtrace for error in macro

2011-11-08 Thread Jon Rafkind
So is there a more efficient way to debug the issue than looking at the macro debugger that you know of? Also FWIW the error I meant arose from exactly the situation below. I created a new identifier meant to be used as a literal: (define-syntax my-new-literal (lambda (stx) (raise-syntax-erro

Re: [racket-dev] no backtrace for error in macro

2011-11-08 Thread Robby Findler
It isn't clear to me that the stacktrace is actually containing useful information in such cases. That is, the stack will not tell you which macro introduced the free identifier, only the code that finds the identifier (that is, the code that detects free variables). Robby On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at

Re: [racket-dev] no backtrace for error in macro

2011-11-08 Thread Jon Rafkind
Ok. Whats your (the) strategy for debugging these sorts of errors? Yesterday I just stared at the macro debugger output for a while until I saw where an identifier that ultimately raised a syntax error showed up. On 11/08/2011 10:41 AM, Robby Findler wrote: > This is a change I made recently and

Re: [racket-dev] no backtrace for error in macro

2011-11-08 Thread Robby Findler
This is a change I made recently and I put a rationale and explanation in the commit message here: http://git.racket-lang.org/plt/commit/e1ce0a0d1e6120354ace65dc3fda76d0442fb3a1 Robby On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Jon Rafkind wrote: > When this program is run in DrRacket the error is displ

[racket-dev] no backtrace for error in macro

2011-11-08 Thread Jon Rafkind
When this program is run in DrRacket the error is displayed in the interactions pane with a backtrace icon next to it but if you click that icon the backtrace window is blank. It would be nice to get some sort of backtrace or I suppose in the worst case no backtrace icon should appear. #lang ra