Re: [racket-dev] okay to require rackunit in modules required at startup?

2011-06-29 Thread Eli Barzilay
5 hours ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Robby Findler > wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt > > wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:52 AM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > >>> > >>> [*] As an example, rackunit might become dependent on drr i

Re: [racket-dev] okay to require rackunit in modules required at startup?

2011-06-29 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Robby Findler wrote: > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt > wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:52 AM, Eli Barzilay wrote: >>> >>> [*] As an example, rackunit might become dependent on drr in the >>> future, if it becomes a drr plugin.  The cos

Re: [racket-dev] okay to require rackunit in modules required at startup?

2011-06-29 Thread Robby Findler
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:52 AM, Eli Barzilay wrote: >> >> [*] As an example, rackunit might become dependent on drr in the >> future, if it becomes a drr plugin.  The cost of that is obvious: you >> need drr to use rackunit.  A possib

Re: [racket-dev] okay to require rackunit in modules required at startup?

2011-06-29 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:52 AM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > > [*] As an example, rackunit might become dependent on drr in the > future, if it becomes a drr plugin.  The cost of that is obvious: you > need drr to use rackunit.  A possible solution to that, if it becomes > necessary, is to have another

Re: [racket-dev] okay to require rackunit in modules required at startup?

2011-06-28 Thread Eli Barzilay
Four minutes ago, Robby Findler wrote: > I think Eli is saying that it would create a "bad" dependency where Yes, the "redundant" was a bad translation of something like "a dependency we don't really need". > "badness" isn't something that is easy to say precisely what it is, > but the rough ide

Re: [racket-dev] okay to require rackunit in modules required at startup?

2011-06-28 Thread Robby Findler
I think Eli is saying that it would create a "bad" dependency where "badness" isn't something that is easy to say precisely what it is, but the rough idea is that there is a hierarchy of modules (ie a grouping of modules into levels of a tree) and dependencies should go one direction. Making drrack

Re: [racket-dev] okay to require rackunit in modules required at startup?

2011-06-28 Thread John Clements
On Jun 28, 2011, at 11:19 PM, Robby Findler wrote: > Yes, please do separate the stepper tests out into another file. Got it, done. John smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://l

Re: [racket-dev] okay to require rackunit in modules required at startup?

2011-06-28 Thread Robby Findler
Yes, please do separate the stepper tests out into another file. Robby On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > An hour and a half ago, John Clements wrote: >> In certain places, I know that we're trying to be careful to >> minimize 'require's that occur as part of DrRacket startup

Re: [racket-dev] okay to require rackunit in modules required at startup?

2011-06-28 Thread John Clements
On Jun 28, 2011, at 10:52 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > An hour and a half ago, John Clements wrote: >> In certain places, I know that we're trying to be careful to >> minimize 'require's that occur as part of DrRacket startup. Is >> 'rackunit' something we're trying to avoid? Specifically, I have o

Re: [racket-dev] okay to require rackunit in modules required at startup?

2011-06-28 Thread Eli Barzilay
An hour and a half ago, John Clements wrote: > In certain places, I know that we're trying to be careful to > minimize 'require's that occur as part of DrRacket startup. Is > 'rackunit' something we're trying to avoid? Specifically, I have old > unit tests in collects/stepper/private/shared.rkt th

[racket-dev] okay to require rackunit in modules required at startup?

2011-06-28 Thread John Clements
In certain places, I know that we're trying to be careful to minimize 'require's that occur as part of DrRacket startup. Is 'rackunit' something we're trying to avoid? Specifically, I have old unit tests in collects/stepper/private/shared.rkt that I'd like to revive as rackunit tests. John