Re: [Vote] Namespace change from com.sun.jini and com.artima to org.apache.river

2015-06-05 Thread Gregg Wonderly
Dennis is thinking of the solution I was trying to use to get things to run inside of netbeans, the platform, to use it to create Jini enabled clients. The SecurityManger issue, I think, still existed. The problem is that I’ve been away from that issue for a few years now and my memory is clou

Re: [Vote] Namespace change from com.sun.jini and com.artima to org.apache.river

2015-06-05 Thread Gregg Wonderly
Dennis is thinking of the solution I was trying to use to get things to run inside of netbeans, the platform, to use it to create Jini enabled clients. The SecurityManger issue, I think, still existed. The problem is that I’ve been away from that issue for a few years now and my memory is clou

Re: [Vote] Namespace change from com.sun.jini and com.artima to org.apache.river

2015-06-05 Thread Dennis Reedy
Greg, Wow, this escalated quickly. Not being snarky, and I do get the impression that you're now lecturing me. Let's just all take a step back. I am not implying anything about incompatibilities with net beans or any other IDE. I'm not sure why you went there. You're right about two conversati

Re: [Vote] Namespace change from com.sun.jini and com.artima to org.apache.river

2015-06-05 Thread Greg Trasuk
Hi Dennis: Your response sounds a little snarky to me, but that may be just email not conveying tone correctly, or the curse of the iPhone. If I’m not mistaken, the changes you’re talking about are contained in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RIVER-336

Re: [Vote] Namespace change from com.sun.jini and com.artima to org.apache.river

2015-06-05 Thread Dennis Reedy
It's the RMIClassLoader work that was done, thought I had made that clear. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 5, 2015, at 11:06 AM, Greg Trasuk wrote: > > > Need to define “run within NetBeans”. I think Gregg’s work you’re thinking > of was about being able to build NetBeans plugins that could acc

Re: [Vote] Namespace change from com.sun.jini and com.artima to org.apache.river

2015-06-05 Thread Greg Trasuk
Need to define “run within NetBeans”. I think Gregg’s work you’re thinking of was about being able to build NetBeans plugins that could access services and perhaps export services. “Running” a program from within Netbeans, i.e. invoking the Ant script or executing “java …” works fine as-is.

Re: [Vote] Namespace change from com.sun.jini and com.artima to org.apache.river

2015-06-05 Thread Dennis Reedy
Hi Gregg, IIRC, you did some work with the RMIClassLoader that greatly improved interoperability with NB. I don't recall seeing it in the qa-refactor branch. I think it's really important to have that work in the next release. Any chance you can you merge it into the qa-refactor-namespace branc

Apache River on Android?

2015-06-05 Thread Dawid Loubser
Hi All, Peter Firmstone obviously looked at this about 5 years ago, and even raised a support question with Google in terms of making certain java.rmi.* classes available on the platform. I was wondering, has anything happen

Re: Apacher River over Internet

2015-06-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Could you perhaps write and put on the web site a short "best practices" article on this? On 6/5/2015 6:08 AM, Gregg Wonderly wrote: Across the internet, you loose access to multi-cast only discovery. So, your client must use unicast and the service must advertise/join a unicast capable lookup

Re: Clustered Jini Server? Was: Re: Mirroring to GitHub

2015-06-05 Thread Gregg Wonderly
Greg is on point here. You really should consider a Java Space (look at Dan Creswell's Blitz, [http://www.dancres.org/blitz/, for a very performant implementation). Your clients would then put requests for work into the Javaspace. Worker machines that you can add as many as you want of, woul

Re: Apacher River over Internet

2015-06-05 Thread Gregg Wonderly
Across the internet, you loose access to multi-cast only discovery. So, your client must use unicast and the service must advertise/join a unicast capable lookup service (Reggie). I’ve used Jini across long distance network paths for quite some time, and it works just fine as long as you use

Re: [Vote] Namespace change from com.sun.jini and com.artima to org.apache.river

2015-06-05 Thread Gregg Wonderly
Netbeans used to start with a custom SecurityManager implementation which was not replaceable in an APP nor the IDE itself. I think this was changed to be pluggable, but I just don’t remember the details. Gregg > On Jun 2, 2015, at 6:14 AM, Peter wrote: > > Yes, > > Should run fine from wit