Re: Gradle Build [PREVIOUSLY] Re: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River

2020-07-03 Thread Peter Firmstone
Hi Philip, The most recent modular build attempt is here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/river/jtsk/modules/ Cheers, Peter. On 7/3/2020 2:19 PM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: Aaah, I may not be using the latest code then. For me, the maven build is failing right now due to missing dependencies on

Re: Gradle Build [PREVIOUSLY] Re: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River

2020-07-02 Thread Phillip Rhodes
Aaah, I may not be using the latest code then. For me, the maven build is failing right now due to missing dependencies on classes from the river-policy module, and that module doesn't even have a pom.xml in it. Which branch is everybody working on? And is work still going on through the svn repo

Re: Gradle Build [PREVIOUSLY] Re: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River

2020-07-02 Thread Peter Firmstone
Hi Phil, It's great to have your help. :) The maven build structure is almost complete, there are some junit tests that need to be moved over to their relevant modules from the old ant build.  After that there will be some minor implementation dependencies between the modules that need to be

Re: Gradle Build [PREVIOUSLY] Re: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River

2020-07-01 Thread Dan Rollo
issue that pops up, but would not lambast a gradle approach. Dan > Re: Gradle Build [PREVIOUSLY] Re: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for > River > 12518 by: Phillip Rhodes > > Administrivia: > > -

Re: Gradle Build [PREVIOUSLY] Re: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River

2020-07-01 Thread Phillip Rhodes
A Gradle build would be nice. I'm willing to invest some time trying to help make it happen if need be. But I am curious.., it looks like someone started a Maven build a while back.. From what I can see it seems to maybe be incomplete, or just bit-rotted. But depending on the details of the state

Re: Gradle Build [PREVIOUSLY] Re: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River

2020-05-27 Thread Peter Firmstone
Excellent, thanks Mike, Good to have you with us. Cheers, Peter. On 5/28/2020 12:40 AM, Michael Sobolewski wrote: Hi Peter, I am still interested. Dennis worked with me on the SORCER/Rio integration for a couple years at AFRL/WPAFB. He helped us to integrate all projects at the

Re: Gradle Build [PREVIOUSLY] Re: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River

2020-05-27 Thread Peter Firmstone
River's still using SVN.  Feel free to bring that up for discussion or a vote if you like, I don't think there will be any resistance to change. On 5/27/2020 11:01 PM, Dennis Reedy wrote: Peter, I’ll try checking that out. One thing, I had thought River switched to git? Or is River still

Re: Gradle Build [PREVIOUSLY] Re: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River

2020-05-27 Thread Michael Sobolewski
Hi Peter, I am still interested. Dennis worked with me on the SORCER/Rio integration for a couple years at AFRL/WPAFB. He helped us to integrate all projects at the Multidisciplinary Science and Technology Center with git/gradle uniform build automation, distributions and testing. I do not see

Re: Gradle Build [PREVIOUSLY] Re: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River

2020-05-27 Thread Dennis Reedy
Peter, Can/should we work off of this repository as well? https://github.com/apache/river Dennis On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:01 AM Dennis Reedy wrote: > Peter, > > I’ll try checking that out. One thing, I had thought River switched to > git? Or is River still using subversion? > > Dennis > > On

Re: Gradle Build [PREVIOUSLY] Re: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River

2020-05-27 Thread Dennis Reedy
Peter, I’ll try checking that out. One thing, I had thought River switched to git? Or is River still using subversion? Dennis > On May 27, 2020, at 4:33 AM, Peter Firmstone > wrote: > >  > Thanks Dan, > > Hi Dennis, > > I recall Michael from Sorcer Soft (cc'd) also showed interest in a

Gradle Build [PREVIOUSLY] Re: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River

2020-05-27 Thread Peter Firmstone
Thanks Dan, Hi Dennis, I recall Michael from Sorcer Soft (cc'd) also showed interest in a Gradle build. The modular build is here: https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/river/jtsk/modules/ svn checkout http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/river/jtsk/modules Do you still have svn access?   It's a

Re: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River

2020-05-26 Thread Dan Rollo
Regarding a gradle build: I’m not against a gradle build, but I’m by no means a gradle expert. For the initial modular build, I think the “opinionated” nature of maven is helpful in providing some guard rails, but that could just be a function of me having more familiarity with maven. Dan

Re: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River

2020-05-22 Thread Peter Firmstone
Hi Dennis, Replies inline below. On 5/22/2020 2:56 PM, Dennis Reedy wrote: Hi Peter, Some quick late night thoughts ... - Time depending, helping a Gradle build for River is something that I'd be glad to participate in. I think one of the biggest challenges will be getting the

Re: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River

2020-05-21 Thread Dennis Reedy
Hi Peter, Some quick late night thoughts ... - Time depending, helping a Gradle build for River is something that I'd be glad to participate in. I think one of the biggest challenges will be getting the testing framework working, or choosing a modern equivalent. - As it relates to

Re: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River

2020-05-21 Thread Peter Firmstone
Hi Dennis, Good to hear from you. The truth is, I'm no build expert, Dan is much more capable than I am, so I'm waiting to hear Dan's opinion on Gradle, it certainly looks good. Would you be interested in helping to create a Gradle build? Something else I've been thinking about is you once

Re: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River

2020-05-21 Thread Dennis Reedy
I think showing/explaing how River can fit into a larger eco-system of existing applications would certainly help. How could River augment Spring Boot? What would it look like to combine River and Kafka? A discussion of what it would mean to deploy micro-services built with RIver in the cloud?

Re: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River

2020-05-21 Thread Bryan Thompson
I think engagement requires a few things. +1 on the technical points that you have called out Peter. But we also need to engage developers beyond those who are traditional users of River/Jini to foster new development with River. Which can then lead to new development of River by a broader base

Re: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River

2020-05-21 Thread Peter Firmstone
Thanks Patricia, I'm not sure we're going to see a significant number of developers contributing in the near future. Unfortunately the technical matters, which are complex and difficult have caused a lot of argument in the past and have been the cause of a high barrier to entry for new

Re: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River

2020-05-21 Thread Peter Firmstone
feel better”….to soon? ;) Dan From: Peter Firmstone Subject: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River Date: May 20, 2020 at 8:51:42 PM EDT To: dev@river.apache.org Hello River Folk, I've received feedback from the Board this morning, they are requesting that we discuss the Attic

Re: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River

2020-05-20 Thread Dan Rollo
Subject: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River Date: May 20, 2020 at 8:51:42 PM EDT To: dev@river.apache.org Hello River Folk, I've received feedback from the Board this morning, they are requesting that we discuss the Attic for River. Personally I think the project still has a lot

Re: Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River

2020-05-20 Thread Patricia Shanahan
The board tends to be more concerned about an active community than technical matters. We need to discuss whether there is a pool of potential contributors who are likely to become active. On 5/20/2020 5:51 PM, Peter Firmstone wrote: Hello River Folk, I've received feedback from the Board

Board feedback - Request discuss attic for River

2020-05-20 Thread Peter Firmstone
Hello River Folk, I've received feedback from the Board this morning, they are requesting that we discuss the Attic for River. Personally I think the project still has a lot of potential to pick up again once the modular build is complete, and it is a useful place to send patches and