Re: Trunk merge and thread pools

2015-12-06 Thread Peter
.   Include original message Original message From: Gregg Wonderly <gr...@wonderly.org> Sent: 07/12/2015 08:09:36 am To: dev@river.apache.org Subject: Re: Trunk merge and thread pools Well Peter, there are lots of things one can do about load management.  The  obvious solutions are v

Re: Trunk merge and thread pools

2015-12-06 Thread Gregg Wonderly
g on, >> but because it is uncontended, it only consumes 0.2% cpu, about the same as >> our security architecture overhead (non encrypted). >> >> Regards, >> >> Peter. >> >> Sent from my Samsung device. >>Include origin

Re: Trunk merge and thread pools

2015-12-04 Thread Peter
.   Include original message Original message From: Greg Trasuk <tras...@stratuscom.com> Sent: 04/12/2015 04:57:43 pm To: dev@river.apache.org Subject: Re: Trunk merge and thread pools > On Dec 4, 2015, at 1:16 AM, Peter <j...@zeus.net.au> wrote: >  > Since Objec

Re: Trunk merge and thread pools

2015-12-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
iginal message From: Bryan Thompson <br...@systap.com> Sent: 03/12/2015 11:48:12 am To: <dev@river.apache.org> <dev@river.apache.org> Subject: Re: Trunk merge and thread pools Great! Bryan Thompson Chief Scientist & Founder SYSTAP, LLC 4501 Tower Road Greensboro, NC

Re: Trunk merge and thread pools

2015-12-04 Thread Peter
, your help is most appreciated. Peter. Sent from my Samsung device.   Include original message Original message From: Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> Sent: 04/12/2015 06:20:59 pm To: dev@river.apache.org Subject: Re: Trunk merge and thread pools Although we don't have a formal r

Re: Trunk merge and thread pools

2015-12-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
If you have a real world workload that shows contention, we could make serious progress on performance improvement - after 3.0 ships. I am not even disagreeing with changes that are only shown to make the tests more effective - after 3.0 ships. I am unsure about whether Peter is tilting at

Re: Trunk merge and thread pools

2015-12-04 Thread Gregg Wonderly
With a handful of clients, you can ignore contention. My applications have 20s of threads per client making very frequent calls through the service and this means that 10ms delays evolve into seconds of delay fairly quickly. I believe that if you can measure the contention with tooling, on

Re: Trunk merge and thread pools

2015-12-04 Thread Peter
. Thanks, Peter. Sent from my Samsung device.   Include original message Original message From: Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> Sent: 05/12/2015 12:01:04 pm To: dev@river.apache.org Subject: Re: Trunk merge and thread pools Are there any practical things I can do to ex

Re: Trunk merge and thread pools

2015-12-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
variable and run the script. That would be very helpful. Thanks, Peter. Sent from my Samsung device. Include original message Original message From: Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> Sent: 05/12/2015 12:01:04 pm To: dev@river.apache.org Subject: Re: Trunk merge and thread

Re: Trunk merge and thread pools

2015-12-04 Thread Peter
Thank you. Sent from my Samsung device.   Include original message Original message From: Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> Sent: 05/12/2015 03:02:21 pm To: dev@river.apache.org Subject: Re: Trunk merge and thread pools During the gap between releases, it seems Rat has changed fro

Re: Trunk merge and thread pools

2015-12-03 Thread Peter
.   Include original message Original message From: Bryan Thompson <br...@systap.com> Sent: 03/12/2015 11:48:12 am To: <dev@river.apache.org> <dev@river.apache.org> Subject: Re: Trunk merge and thread pools Great! Bryan Thompson Chief Scientist & Founder SYSTAP

Re: Trunk merge and thread pools

2015-12-03 Thread Peter
Care to share more of your insight? Peter. Sent from my Samsung device.   Include original message Original message From: Gregg Wonderly <ge...@cox.net> Sent: 03/12/2015 06:37:15 pm To: dev@river.apache.org Subject: Re: Trunk merge and thread pools The original use of thread p

Re: Trunk merge and thread pools

2015-12-02 Thread Peter
com> Sent: 02/12/2015 11:25:03 pm To: <dev@river.apache.org> <dev@river.apache.org> Subject: Re: Trunk merge and thread pools Ah. I did not realize that we were discussing a river specific ThreadPool vs a Java Concurrency classes ThreadPoolExecutor.  I assume that it would be

Re: Trunk merge and thread pools

2015-12-02 Thread Peter
original message Original message From: Bryan Thompson <br...@systap.com> Sent: 02/12/2015 09:46:13 am To: <dev@river.apache.org> <dev@river.apache.org> Subject: Re: Trunk merge and thread pools Peter, It might be worth taking this observation about the thread pool beh

Re: Trunk merge and thread pools

2015-12-02 Thread Bryan Thompson
; replacement. > > Regards, > > Peter. > > Sent from my Samsung device. > Include original message > Original message > From: Bryan Thompson <br...@systap.com> > Sent: 02/12/2015 09:46:13 am > To: <dev@river.apache.org> <dev@river.apache.

Re: Trunk merge and thread pools

2015-12-02 Thread Bryan Thompson
mes 0.2% cpu, about the same as > our security architecture overhead (non encrypted). > > Regards, > > Peter. > > Sent from my Samsung device. > Include original message > Original message > From: Bryan Thompson <br...@systap.com> > Sent: 02/12/2015 11:25

Re: Trunk merge and thread pools

2015-12-01 Thread Peter
from my Samsung device.   Include original message Original message From: Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> Sent: 02/12/2015 01:02:56 am To: dev@river.apache.org Subject: Re: Trunk merge and thread pools Thanks for getting that done. There is a more general message in your threa

Re: Trunk merge and thread pools

2015-12-01 Thread Peter
good idea, will do. Sent from my Samsung device.   Include original message Original message From: Bryan Thompson <br...@systap.com> Sent: 02/12/2015 09:46:13 am To: <dev@river.apache.org> <dev@river.apache.org> Subject: Re: Trunk merge and thread pools Peter,

Re: Trunk merge and thread pools

2015-12-01 Thread Bryan Thompson
Peter, It might be worth taking this observation about the thread pool behavior to the java concurrency list. See what feedback you get. I would certainly be interested in what people there have to say about this. Bryan ​

Re: Trunk merge and thread pools

2015-12-01 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Thanks for getting that done. There is a more general message in your thread pool observation. Any time we do something a certain way for performance, we should be prepared for the possibility that the opposite choice will become better in the future. In general, there has been a trend for