Re: [slf4j-dev] Transactions in slf4j?

2009-06-02 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
the actual calls to the API in here (disconnected from slf4j as such) and write a suitable appender. I was basically wondering if this abstraction was essentially something that would make sense to have in the API too. -- Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen ...plus... Tubular Bells

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1318 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages

2009-04-23 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
. As such I see no reason not to promote logback - you just need to communicate very clearly that you are advertising for some other software that happens to have been written by you. IMHO that is better than the official slf4j text is biased instead of neutral. -- Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen ...plus

Re: [slf4j-dev] 1.5.4?

2009-01-11 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen skrev: Ceki Gulcu skrev den 03-10-2008 21:53: Are there any remaining tasks? Thorbjørn is still working on agent instrumentation. Ralph has volunteered to add documentation about XLogger. The I think the agent instrumentation should not be announced

Re: [slf4j-dev] New Class

2008-11-17 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
using it that it should pick up the javaassist dependency for tests? -- Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen ...plus... Tubular Bells! ___ dev mailing list dev@slf4j.org http://www.slf4j.org/mailman/listinfo/dev

Re: [slf4j-dev] New Class

2008-11-17 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
, but this is rather sneaky I think. Suggestions? -- Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen ...plus... Tubular Bells! ___ dev mailing list dev@slf4j.org http://www.slf4j.org/mailman/listinfo/dev

Re: [slf4j-dev] 1.5.4?

2008-11-12 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Ceki Gulcu skrev: The html files on the slf4j site are *not* generated nor transformed. To have the same look and feel, each page includes javascript and css files. It is supposed to be extremely easy. Just have a look. Ok. Glad you kept it simple - it get rather confusing pretty

Re: [slf4j-dev] 1.5.4?

2008-11-11 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Ceki Gulcu skrev: Are there any remaining tasks? Thorbjørn is still working on agent instrumentation. Ralph has volunteered to add documentation about XLogger. The I believe this is now as good as it is going to get at this point. I still need to write the usage documentation where the

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1210 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-api/src/test/java/org/slf4j/helpers

2008-10-27 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Ceki Gulcu skrev: Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: Ceki Gulcu skrev: Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: I have been wondering what exactly it is that you are trying to do? Is it trying to establish a unit for CPU usage from which you can establish an upper bound for how

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1210 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-api/src/test/java/org/slf4j/helpers

2008-10-25 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Ralph Goers skrev: What Ceki is doing is an imperfect, but better approach than what you are suggesting. The current approach adjusts its expectations based on the baseline performance of the build machine. So as builds are done on slower or faster hardware the expected baseline should

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1210 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-api/src/test/java/org/slf4j/helpers

2008-10-24 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: Author: ceki Date: Thu Oct 23 18:54:02 2008 New Revision: 1210 Added: slf4j/trunk/slf4j-api/src/test/java/org/slf4j/helpers/BubbleSort.java slf4j/trunk/slf4j-api/src/test/java/org/slf4j/helpers/BubbleSortTest.java

Re: [slf4j-dev] Checkout error; svn: OPTIONS of '/repos': 403 Forbidden (https://svn.slf4j.org)

2008-10-23 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
anything to do with SVN. Either you can work with your working copy with the usual tools such as SVN, Subeclipse and the like, or you can't. Do those tools work for you? Cheers, Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: Ceki, Eclipse got confused so I needed to resetup my workspace. I am

Re: [slf4j-dev] mvn test on a non-Sun JVM

2008-10-14 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Ceki Gulcu skrev: Hi Thorbjørn, Why is Hudson the Extensible continuous integration engine relevant in relation with building slf4j or more precisely running mvn test? Hudson builds stuff, and notifies you when stuff breaks. mvn test is a required part of the building of slf4j. Hence

[slf4j-dev] mvn test on a non-Sun JVM

2008-10-12 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
I did some research to see if I could run automated testing on a clean room JVM, but it turned out to be a bit harder than originally expected, as most prepackaged java stuff in one way or another pulls in OpenJDK. The most important result was that GNU Classpath is missing JAXP-classes needed

Re: [slf4j-dev] Checkout error; svn: OPTIONS of '/repos': 403 Forbidden (https://svn.slf4j.org)

2008-10-07 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Ceki Gulcu skrev: Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: I asked earlier how you set up Eclipse to work with slf4j but did not get a clear answer. Do you just extract the files outside of eclipse and manually set up a complete build path? After checking out SLF4J, I invoke mvm

Re: [slf4j-dev] 1.5.4?

2008-10-06 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Ceki Gulcu skrev den 03-10-2008 21:53: Are there any remaining tasks? Thorbjørn is still working on agent instrumentation. Ralph has volunteered to add documentation about XLogger. The I think the agent instrumentation should not be announced until it is ready. In that regard I am

Re: [slf4j-dev] Checkout error; svn: OPTIONS of '/repos': 403 Forbidden (https://svn.slf4j.org)

2008-10-06 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Ceki Gulcu skrev: Thorbjørn, I am unfamiliar with m2eclipse but I don't see how m2eclipse has anything to do with SVN. Either you can work with your working copy with the usual tools such as SVN, Subeclipse and the like, or you can't. Do those tools work for you? m2eclipse

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1155 - in slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j: agent instrumentation

2008-10-05 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Ralph Goers skrev: Our requirements include enabling and disabling logging without restarting the application. Whether it is done via the current mechanisms or AOP doesn't really matter as this requirement doesn't change. I realize it could be hard to implement. I have now reached a

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1155 - in slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j: agent instrumentation

2008-10-03 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Ralph Goers skrev: XLogger just provides some basic extended methods in a standardized way. I would prefer that rather than use _log.debug you would use XLogger.entry as it makes filtering them easier. Let us come back to that later. In our code we manually add entry, exit, caught,

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1165 - slf4j/trunk

2008-10-02 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: Author: ceki Date: Thu Oct 2 20:14:25 2008 New Revision: 1165 Added: slf4j/trunk/binderVersion.pl Modified: slf4j/trunk/goVersion.sh slf4j/trunk/version.pl Log: - a perl script to edit the version number of StaticLoggerBinder.java files This is

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1165 - slf4j/trunk

2008-10-02 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Ceki Gulcu skrev: Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: Any particular reason you wrote a Perl script instead of using the Ant Replace task? Here is the rationale. As the release manager, I am the only one who runs the script. The Ant equivalent of the script would

Re: [slf4j-dev] Unit tests in slf4j-ext and Maven

2008-10-02 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Ceki Gulcu skrev: Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: I read up a bit on this. It appears that maven-surefire-plugin cannot both do unit tests and integration tests in the same life cycle (as far as I understood). Oh the joy of other peoples tools :) Maven is far from perfect

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1155 - in slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j: agent instrumentation

2008-10-02 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Ceki Gulcu skrev: Actually in the article I used the INFO level as it is the lowest level printed out by j.u.l without a configuration file. I think it would be a valid default level to keep the entry barrier as low as possible, and then have a level keyword to the agent to override this.

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1155 - in slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j: agent instrumentation

2008-10-01 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Ralph Goers skrev: Can you describe how this is intended to work? Does this inject logging at runtime or build time? Naturally. It will inject logging statements at runtime (specifically class load time) in all classes (which I am reconsidering) except some which are blacklisted.

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1146 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext

2008-09-27 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Ceki Gulcu skrev: Thorbjørn, I just simulated commiting a message under your user id. (I had to momentarily replace your MD5 password with my MD5 password.) Anyway, as this message shows, it worked. I'm trying to get unit tests up and running in Maven for the agent, but I am

Re: [slf4j-dev] recent work on log4j

2008-09-09 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Ceki Gulcu skrev den 09-09-2008 15:04: Hello Thorbjørn, Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: My Windows box needed to be reinstalled and it takes longer than expected to be fully back in business. This includes my logback/slf4j subscriptions. A crashing laptop? Sounds like fun

Re: [slf4j-dev] Repost

2008-08-28 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
screen to an analysis tool on the lines of a debugger. I'd love to discuss this, if there are anybody else but me who thinks this is worth considering :) -- Thorbjørn -- Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen ... plus... Tubular Bells! ___ dev mailing

[slf4j-dev] Repost

2008-08-25 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
get suitable attention and give some suitable help. I have dug up the XML-snippet that makes Eclipse insert a logger defintiion when creating a new class. That would be perfect. Comments? -- Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen - ...plus...Tubular Bells! -- Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen ... plus

Re: [slf4j-dev] Repost

2008-08-25 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
in the classloader. This to me means that either a full slfj4 + backend must be provided or the usual responsibilities must be obeyed by the deployer. The agent needs javaassist to run at all. -- Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen ... plus... Tubular Bells