Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Plan for Apache Spark 4.0.0 (June 2024)

2023-06-20 Thread Dongjoon Hyun
Ya, it sounds like that. Could you link those items to the following JIRA?

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-44111 Prepare Apache Spark 4.0.0

Dongjoon.



On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 12:45 PM Holden Karau  wrote:

> That seems like a really good reason for a major version change given the
> % of PySpark users and the fact we are (effectively) tied to pandas APIs.
>
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 12:24 PM Bjørn Jørgensen 
> wrote:
>
>> One big thing for 4.0 will be that pandas API on spark will support
>> pandas version 2.0
>>
>> With the major release of pandas 2.0.0 on April 3, 2023, numerous
>> breaking changes have been introduced. So, we have made the decision to
>> postpone addressing these breaking changes until the next major release of
>> Spark, version 4.0.0 to minimize disruptions for our users and provide a
>> more seamless upgrade experience.
>>
>> The pandas 2.0.0 release includes a significant number of updates, such
>> as API removals, changes in API behavior, parameter removals, parameter
>> behavior changes, and bug fixes. We have planned the following approach for
>> each item:
>>
>> - *API Removals*: Removed APIs will remain deprecated in Spark 3.5.0,
>> provide appropriate warnings, and will be removed in Spark 4.0.0.
>>
>> - *API Behavior Changes*: APIs with changed behavior will retain the
>> behavior in Spark 3.5.0, provide appropriate warnings, and will align the
>> behavior with pandas in Spark 4.0.0.
>>
>> - *Parameter Removals*: Removed parameters will remain deprecated in
>> Spark 3.5.0, provide appropriate warnings, and will be removed in Spark
>> 4.0.0.
>>
>> - *Parameter Behavior Changes*: Parameters with changed behavior will
>> retain the behavior in Spark 3.5.0, provide appropriate warnings, and will
>> align the behavior with pandas in Spark 4.0.0.
>>
>> - *Bug Fixes*: Bug fixes mainly related to correctness issues will be
>> fixed in pandas 3.5.0.
>>
>> *To recap, all breaking changes related to pandas 2.0.0 will be supported
>> in Spark 4.0.0,* *and will remain deprecated with appropriate errors in
>> Spark 3.5.0.*
>>
>>
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-43291?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Aall-tabpanel
>>
>> tir. 20. juni 2023 kl. 06:18 skrev Dongjoon Hyun :
>>
>>> Hi, Herman.
>>>
>>> This is a series of discussions as I re-summarized here.
>>>
>>> You can find some context in the previous timeline thread.
>>>
>>> 2023-05-30 Apache Spark 4.0 Timeframe?
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/xhkgj60j361gdpywoxxz7qspp2w80ry6
>>>
>>> Could you reply there to collect your timeline suggestions? We can
>>> discuss more there.
>>>
>>> Dongjoon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 1:58 PM Herman van Hovell 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Dongjoon, I am not sure if I am not sure if I follow the line of
 thought here.

 Multiple people have asked for clarification on what Spark 4.0 would
 mean (Holden, Mridul, Jia & Xiao). You can - for the record - also add me
 to this list. However you choose to single out Xiao because asks this
 question and wants to do a preview release as well? So again, what does
 Spark 4 mean, and why does it need to take almost a year? Historically
 major Spark releases tend to break APIs, but if it only entails changing to
 Scala 2.13 and dropping support for JDK 8, then we could also just release
 a month after 3.5.

 How about we do this? We get 3.5 released, and afterwards we do a
 couple of meetings where we build this roadmap. Using that, we can -
 hopefully - have a grounded discussion.

 Cheers,
 Herman

 On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 4:01 PM Dongjoon Hyun 
 wrote:

> Thank you. I reviewed the threads, vote and result once more.
>
> I found that I missed the binding vote mark on Holden in the vote
> result email. The following should be "-0: Holden Karau *". Sorry for this
> mistake, Holden and all.
>
> > -0: Holden Karau
>
> To Hyukjin, I disagree with you at the following point because the
> thread started clearly with your and Sean's Apache Spark 4.0 requirement 
> in
> order to move away from Scala 2.12. In addition, we also discussed another
> item (dropping Java 8) from other current dev thread. The vote scope and
> goal is clear and specific.
>
> > we're unclear on the picture of Spark 4.0.0.
>
> Instead of vote scope and result, what is really unclear is that what
> you propose here. If Xiao wants a preview, Xiao can propose the preview
> plan more. It's welcome. If you want to has many 4.0 dev ideas which are
> not exposed to the community yet. Please share them with the community.
> It's welcome, too. Apache Spark is open source community. If you don't
> share it, there is no way for us to know what you want.
>
> Dongjoon
>
> On 2023/06/19 04:31:46 Hyukjin Kwon wrote:
> > The major concerns raised in the thread were 

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Plan for Apache Spark 4.0.0 (June 2024)

2023-06-20 Thread Holden Karau
That seems like a really good reason for a major version change given the %
of PySpark users and the fact we are (effectively) tied to pandas APIs.

On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 12:24 PM Bjørn Jørgensen 
wrote:

> One big thing for 4.0 will be that pandas API on spark will support pandas
> version 2.0
>
> With the major release of pandas 2.0.0 on April 3, 2023, numerous breaking
> changes have been introduced. So, we have made the decision to postpone
> addressing these breaking changes until the next major release of Spark,
> version 4.0.0 to minimize disruptions for our users and provide a more
> seamless upgrade experience.
>
> The pandas 2.0.0 release includes a significant number of updates, such as
> API removals, changes in API behavior, parameter removals, parameter
> behavior changes, and bug fixes. We have planned the following approach for
> each item:
>
> - *API Removals*: Removed APIs will remain deprecated in Spark 3.5.0,
> provide appropriate warnings, and will be removed in Spark 4.0.0.
>
> - *API Behavior Changes*: APIs with changed behavior will retain the
> behavior in Spark 3.5.0, provide appropriate warnings, and will align the
> behavior with pandas in Spark 4.0.0.
>
> - *Parameter Removals*: Removed parameters will remain deprecated in
> Spark 3.5.0, provide appropriate warnings, and will be removed in Spark
> 4.0.0.
>
> - *Parameter Behavior Changes*: Parameters with changed behavior will
> retain the behavior in Spark 3.5.0, provide appropriate warnings, and will
> align the behavior with pandas in Spark 4.0.0.
>
> - *Bug Fixes*: Bug fixes mainly related to correctness issues will be
> fixed in pandas 3.5.0.
>
> *To recap, all breaking changes related to pandas 2.0.0 will be supported
> in Spark 4.0.0,* *and will remain deprecated with appropriate errors in
> Spark 3.5.0.*
>
>
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-43291?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Aall-tabpanel
>
> tir. 20. juni 2023 kl. 06:18 skrev Dongjoon Hyun :
>
>> Hi, Herman.
>>
>> This is a series of discussions as I re-summarized here.
>>
>> You can find some context in the previous timeline thread.
>>
>> 2023-05-30 Apache Spark 4.0 Timeframe?
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/xhkgj60j361gdpywoxxz7qspp2w80ry6
>>
>> Could you reply there to collect your timeline suggestions? We can
>> discuss more there.
>>
>> Dongjoon.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 1:58 PM Herman van Hovell 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dongjoon, I am not sure if I am not sure if I follow the line of thought
>>> here.
>>>
>>> Multiple people have asked for clarification on what Spark 4.0 would
>>> mean (Holden, Mridul, Jia & Xiao). You can - for the record - also add me
>>> to this list. However you choose to single out Xiao because asks this
>>> question and wants to do a preview release as well? So again, what does
>>> Spark 4 mean, and why does it need to take almost a year? Historically
>>> major Spark releases tend to break APIs, but if it only entails changing to
>>> Scala 2.13 and dropping support for JDK 8, then we could also just release
>>> a month after 3.5.
>>>
>>> How about we do this? We get 3.5 released, and afterwards we do a couple
>>> of meetings where we build this roadmap. Using that, we can - hopefully -
>>> have a grounded discussion.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Herman
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 4:01 PM Dongjoon Hyun 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thank you. I reviewed the threads, vote and result once more.

 I found that I missed the binding vote mark on Holden in the vote
 result email. The following should be "-0: Holden Karau *". Sorry for this
 mistake, Holden and all.

 > -0: Holden Karau

 To Hyukjin, I disagree with you at the following point because the
 thread started clearly with your and Sean's Apache Spark 4.0 requirement in
 order to move away from Scala 2.12. In addition, we also discussed another
 item (dropping Java 8) from other current dev thread. The vote scope and
 goal is clear and specific.

 > we're unclear on the picture of Spark 4.0.0.

 Instead of vote scope and result, what is really unclear is that what
 you propose here. If Xiao wants a preview, Xiao can propose the preview
 plan more. It's welcome. If you want to has many 4.0 dev ideas which are
 not exposed to the community yet. Please share them with the community.
 It's welcome, too. Apache Spark is open source community. If you don't
 share it, there is no way for us to know what you want.

 Dongjoon

 On 2023/06/19 04:31:46 Hyukjin Kwon wrote:
 > The major concerns raised in the thread were that we should initiate
 the
 > discussion for the below first:
 > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Preview (and Dates)
 > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Items
 > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Plan Adjustment
 >
 > before setting the timeline for Spark 4.0.0 because we're unclear on
 the
 > picture of Spark 4.0.0. So discussing the timeline 

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Plan for Apache Spark 4.0.0 (June 2024)

2023-06-20 Thread Bjørn Jørgensen
One big thing for 4.0 will be that pandas API on spark will support pandas
version 2.0

With the major release of pandas 2.0.0 on April 3, 2023, numerous breaking
changes have been introduced. So, we have made the decision to postpone
addressing these breaking changes until the next major release of Spark,
version 4.0.0 to minimize disruptions for our users and provide a more
seamless upgrade experience.

The pandas 2.0.0 release includes a significant number of updates, such as
API removals, changes in API behavior, parameter removals, parameter
behavior changes, and bug fixes. We have planned the following approach for
each item:

- *API Removals*: Removed APIs will remain deprecated in Spark 3.5.0,
provide appropriate warnings, and will be removed in Spark 4.0.0.

- *API Behavior Changes*: APIs with changed behavior will retain the
behavior in Spark 3.5.0, provide appropriate warnings, and will align the
behavior with pandas in Spark 4.0.0.

- *Parameter Removals*: Removed parameters will remain deprecated in Spark
3.5.0, provide appropriate warnings, and will be removed in Spark 4.0.0.

- *Parameter Behavior Changes*: Parameters with changed behavior will
retain the behavior in Spark 3.5.0, provide appropriate warnings, and will
align the behavior with pandas in Spark 4.0.0.

- *Bug Fixes*: Bug fixes mainly related to correctness issues will be fixed
in pandas 3.5.0.

*To recap, all breaking changes related to pandas 2.0.0 will be supported
in Spark 4.0.0,* *and will remain deprecated with appropriate errors in
Spark 3.5.0.*


https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-43291?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Aall-tabpanel

tir. 20. juni 2023 kl. 06:18 skrev Dongjoon Hyun :

> Hi, Herman.
>
> This is a series of discussions as I re-summarized here.
>
> You can find some context in the previous timeline thread.
>
> 2023-05-30 Apache Spark 4.0 Timeframe?
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/xhkgj60j361gdpywoxxz7qspp2w80ry6
>
> Could you reply there to collect your timeline suggestions? We can discuss
> more there.
>
> Dongjoon.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 1:58 PM Herman van Hovell 
> wrote:
>
>> Dongjoon, I am not sure if I am not sure if I follow the line of thought
>> here.
>>
>> Multiple people have asked for clarification on what Spark 4.0 would mean
>> (Holden, Mridul, Jia & Xiao). You can - for the record - also add me to
>> this list. However you choose to single out Xiao because asks this question
>> and wants to do a preview release as well? So again, what does Spark 4
>> mean, and why does it need to take almost a year? Historically major Spark
>> releases tend to break APIs, but if it only entails changing to Scala 2.13
>> and dropping support for JDK 8, then we could also just release a month
>> after 3.5.
>>
>> How about we do this? We get 3.5 released, and afterwards we do a couple
>> of meetings where we build this roadmap. Using that, we can - hopefully -
>> have a grounded discussion.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Herman
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 4:01 PM Dongjoon Hyun 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you. I reviewed the threads, vote and result once more.
>>>
>>> I found that I missed the binding vote mark on Holden in the vote result
>>> email. The following should be "-0: Holden Karau *". Sorry for this
>>> mistake, Holden and all.
>>>
>>> > -0: Holden Karau
>>>
>>> To Hyukjin, I disagree with you at the following point because the
>>> thread started clearly with your and Sean's Apache Spark 4.0 requirement in
>>> order to move away from Scala 2.12. In addition, we also discussed another
>>> item (dropping Java 8) from other current dev thread. The vote scope and
>>> goal is clear and specific.
>>>
>>> > we're unclear on the picture of Spark 4.0.0.
>>>
>>> Instead of vote scope and result, what is really unclear is that what
>>> you propose here. If Xiao wants a preview, Xiao can propose the preview
>>> plan more. It's welcome. If you want to has many 4.0 dev ideas which are
>>> not exposed to the community yet. Please share them with the community.
>>> It's welcome, too. Apache Spark is open source community. If you don't
>>> share it, there is no way for us to know what you want.
>>>
>>> Dongjoon
>>>
>>> On 2023/06/19 04:31:46 Hyukjin Kwon wrote:
>>> > The major concerns raised in the thread were that we should initiate
>>> the
>>> > discussion for the below first:
>>> > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Preview (and Dates)
>>> > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Items
>>> > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Plan Adjustment
>>> >
>>> > before setting the timeline for Spark 4.0.0 because we're unclear on
>>> the
>>> > picture of Spark 4.0.0. So discussing the timeline 4.0.0 first is the
>>> > opposite order procedurally.
>>> > The vote passed as a procedural issue, but I would prefer to consider
>>> this
>>> > as a tentative date, and should probably need another vote to adjust
>>> the
>>> > date considering the plans, preview dates, and items we aim for 4.0.0.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 at 04:33, Dongjoon 

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Plan for Apache Spark 4.0.0 (June 2024)

2023-06-19 Thread Dongjoon Hyun
Hi, Herman.

This is a series of discussions as I re-summarized here.

You can find some context in the previous timeline thread.

2023-05-30 Apache Spark 4.0 Timeframe?
https://lists.apache.org/thread/xhkgj60j361gdpywoxxz7qspp2w80ry6

Could you reply there to collect your timeline suggestions? We can discuss
more there.

Dongjoon.



On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 1:58 PM Herman van Hovell 
wrote:

> Dongjoon, I am not sure if I am not sure if I follow the line of thought
> here.
>
> Multiple people have asked for clarification on what Spark 4.0 would mean
> (Holden, Mridul, Jia & Xiao). You can - for the record - also add me to
> this list. However you choose to single out Xiao because asks this question
> and wants to do a preview release as well? So again, what does Spark 4
> mean, and why does it need to take almost a year? Historically major Spark
> releases tend to break APIs, but if it only entails changing to Scala 2.13
> and dropping support for JDK 8, then we could also just release a month
> after 3.5.
>
> How about we do this? We get 3.5 released, and afterwards we do a couple
> of meetings where we build this roadmap. Using that, we can - hopefully -
> have a grounded discussion.
>
> Cheers,
> Herman
>
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 4:01 PM Dongjoon Hyun  wrote:
>
>> Thank you. I reviewed the threads, vote and result once more.
>>
>> I found that I missed the binding vote mark on Holden in the vote result
>> email. The following should be "-0: Holden Karau *". Sorry for this
>> mistake, Holden and all.
>>
>> > -0: Holden Karau
>>
>> To Hyukjin, I disagree with you at the following point because the thread
>> started clearly with your and Sean's Apache Spark 4.0 requirement in order
>> to move away from Scala 2.12. In addition, we also discussed another item
>> (dropping Java 8) from other current dev thread. The vote scope and goal is
>> clear and specific.
>>
>> > we're unclear on the picture of Spark 4.0.0.
>>
>> Instead of vote scope and result, what is really unclear is that what you
>> propose here. If Xiao wants a preview, Xiao can propose the preview plan
>> more. It's welcome. If you want to has many 4.0 dev ideas which are not
>> exposed to the community yet. Please share them with the community. It's
>> welcome, too. Apache Spark is open source community. If you don't share it,
>> there is no way for us to know what you want.
>>
>> Dongjoon
>>
>> On 2023/06/19 04:31:46 Hyukjin Kwon wrote:
>> > The major concerns raised in the thread were that we should initiate the
>> > discussion for the below first:
>> > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Preview (and Dates)
>> > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Items
>> > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Plan Adjustment
>> >
>> > before setting the timeline for Spark 4.0.0 because we're unclear on the
>> > picture of Spark 4.0.0. So discussing the timeline 4.0.0 first is the
>> > opposite order procedurally.
>> > The vote passed as a procedural issue, but I would prefer to consider
>> this
>> > as a tentative date, and should probably need another vote to adjust the
>> > date considering the plans, preview dates, and items we aim for 4.0.0.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 at 04:33, Dongjoon Hyun 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > This was a part of the following on-going discussions.
>> > >
>> > > 2023-05-28  Apache Spark 3.5.0 Expectations (?)
>> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/3x6dh17bmy20n3frtt3crgxjydnxh2o0
>> > >
>> > > 2023-05-30 Apache Spark 4.0 Timeframe?
>> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/xhkgj60j361gdpywoxxz7qspp2w80ry6
>> > >
>> > > 2023-06-05 ASF policy violation and Scala version issues
>> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/k7gr65wt0fwtldc7hp7bd0vkg1k93rrb
>> > >
>> > > 2023-06-12 [VOTE] Release Plan for Apache Spark 4.0.0 (June 2024)
>> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/r0zn6rd8y25yn2dg59ktw3ttrwxzqrfb
>> > >
>> > > I'm looking forward to seeing the upcoming detailed discussions
>> including
>> > > the following
>> > > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Preview (and Dates)
>> > > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Items
>> > > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Plan Adjustment
>> > >
>> > > Please initiate the discussion.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Dongjoon.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 2023/06/16 19:30:42 Dongjoon Hyun wrote:
>> > > > The vote passes with 6 +1s (4 binding +1s), one -0, and one -1.
>> > > > Thank you all for your participation and
>> > > > especially your additional comments during this voting,
>> > > > Mridul, Hyukjin, and Jungtaek.
>> > > >
>> > > > (* = binding)
>> > > > +1:
>> > > > - Dongjoon Hyun *
>> > > > - Huaxin Gao *
>> > > > - Liang-Chi Hsieh *
>> > > > - Kazuyuki Tanimura
>> > > > - Chao Sun *
>> > > > - Jia Fan
>> > > >
>> > > > -0: Holden Karau
>> > > >
>> > > > -1: Xiao Li *
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > -
>> > > To unsubscribe e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>> -
>> To unsubscribe e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org
>>
>>


Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Plan for Apache Spark 4.0.0 (June 2024)

2023-06-19 Thread Herman van Hovell
Dongjoon, I am not sure if I am not sure if I follow the line of thought
here.

Multiple people have asked for clarification on what Spark 4.0 would mean
(Holden, Mridul, Jia & Xiao). You can - for the record - also add me to
this list. However you choose to single out Xiao because asks this question
and wants to do a preview release as well? So again, what does Spark 4
mean, and why does it need to take almost a year? Historically major Spark
releases tend to break APIs, but if it only entails changing to Scala 2.13
and dropping support for JDK 8, then we could also just release a month
after 3.5.

How about we do this? We get 3.5 released, and afterwards we do a couple of
meetings where we build this roadmap. Using that, we can - hopefully - have
a grounded discussion.

Cheers,
Herman

On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 4:01 PM Dongjoon Hyun  wrote:

> Thank you. I reviewed the threads, vote and result once more.
>
> I found that I missed the binding vote mark on Holden in the vote result
> email. The following should be "-0: Holden Karau *". Sorry for this
> mistake, Holden and all.
>
> > -0: Holden Karau
>
> To Hyukjin, I disagree with you at the following point because the thread
> started clearly with your and Sean's Apache Spark 4.0 requirement in order
> to move away from Scala 2.12. In addition, we also discussed another item
> (dropping Java 8) from other current dev thread. The vote scope and goal is
> clear and specific.
>
> > we're unclear on the picture of Spark 4.0.0.
>
> Instead of vote scope and result, what is really unclear is that what you
> propose here. If Xiao wants a preview, Xiao can propose the preview plan
> more. It's welcome. If you want to has many 4.0 dev ideas which are not
> exposed to the community yet. Please share them with the community. It's
> welcome, too. Apache Spark is open source community. If you don't share it,
> there is no way for us to know what you want.
>
> Dongjoon
>
> On 2023/06/19 04:31:46 Hyukjin Kwon wrote:
> > The major concerns raised in the thread were that we should initiate the
> > discussion for the below first:
> > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Preview (and Dates)
> > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Items
> > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Plan Adjustment
> >
> > before setting the timeline for Spark 4.0.0 because we're unclear on the
> > picture of Spark 4.0.0. So discussing the timeline 4.0.0 first is the
> > opposite order procedurally.
> > The vote passed as a procedural issue, but I would prefer to consider
> this
> > as a tentative date, and should probably need another vote to adjust the
> > date considering the plans, preview dates, and items we aim for 4.0.0.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 at 04:33, Dongjoon Hyun  wrote:
> >
> > > This was a part of the following on-going discussions.
> > >
> > > 2023-05-28  Apache Spark 3.5.0 Expectations (?)
> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/3x6dh17bmy20n3frtt3crgxjydnxh2o0
> > >
> > > 2023-05-30 Apache Spark 4.0 Timeframe?
> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/xhkgj60j361gdpywoxxz7qspp2w80ry6
> > >
> > > 2023-06-05 ASF policy violation and Scala version issues
> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/k7gr65wt0fwtldc7hp7bd0vkg1k93rrb
> > >
> > > 2023-06-12 [VOTE] Release Plan for Apache Spark 4.0.0 (June 2024)
> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/r0zn6rd8y25yn2dg59ktw3ttrwxzqrfb
> > >
> > > I'm looking forward to seeing the upcoming detailed discussions
> including
> > > the following
> > > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Preview (and Dates)
> > > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Items
> > > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Plan Adjustment
> > >
> > > Please initiate the discussion.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dongjoon.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2023/06/16 19:30:42 Dongjoon Hyun wrote:
> > > > The vote passes with 6 +1s (4 binding +1s), one -0, and one -1.
> > > > Thank you all for your participation and
> > > > especially your additional comments during this voting,
> > > > Mridul, Hyukjin, and Jungtaek.
> > > >
> > > > (* = binding)
> > > > +1:
> > > > - Dongjoon Hyun *
> > > > - Huaxin Gao *
> > > > - Liang-Chi Hsieh *
> > > > - Kazuyuki Tanimura
> > > > - Chao Sun *
> > > > - Jia Fan
> > > >
> > > > -0: Holden Karau
> > > >
> > > > -1: Xiao Li *
> > > >
> > >
> > > -
> > > To unsubscribe e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> -
> To unsubscribe e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org
>
>


Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Plan for Apache Spark 4.0.0 (June 2024)

2023-06-19 Thread Dongjoon Hyun
Thank you. I reviewed the threads, vote and result once more.

I found that I missed the binding vote mark on Holden in the vote result email. 
The following should be "-0: Holden Karau *". Sorry for this mistake, Holden 
and all.

> -0: Holden Karau

To Hyukjin, I disagree with you at the following point because the thread 
started clearly with your and Sean's Apache Spark 4.0 requirement in order to 
move away from Scala 2.12. In addition, we also discussed another item 
(dropping Java 8) from other current dev thread. The vote scope and goal is 
clear and specific.

> we're unclear on the picture of Spark 4.0.0. 

Instead of vote scope and result, what is really unclear is that what you 
propose here. If Xiao wants a preview, Xiao can propose the preview plan more. 
It's welcome. If you want to has many 4.0 dev ideas which are not exposed to 
the community yet. Please share them with the community. It's welcome, too. 
Apache Spark is open source community. If you don't share it, there is no way 
for us to know what you want.

Dongjoon

On 2023/06/19 04:31:46 Hyukjin Kwon wrote:
> The major concerns raised in the thread were that we should initiate the
> discussion for the below first:
> - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Preview (and Dates)
> - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Items
> - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Plan Adjustment
> 
> before setting the timeline for Spark 4.0.0 because we're unclear on the
> picture of Spark 4.0.0. So discussing the timeline 4.0.0 first is the
> opposite order procedurally.
> The vote passed as a procedural issue, but I would prefer to consider this
> as a tentative date, and should probably need another vote to adjust the
> date considering the plans, preview dates, and items we aim for 4.0.0.
> 
> 
> On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 at 04:33, Dongjoon Hyun  wrote:
> 
> > This was a part of the following on-going discussions.
> >
> > 2023-05-28  Apache Spark 3.5.0 Expectations (?)
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/3x6dh17bmy20n3frtt3crgxjydnxh2o0
> >
> > 2023-05-30 Apache Spark 4.0 Timeframe?
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/xhkgj60j361gdpywoxxz7qspp2w80ry6
> >
> > 2023-06-05 ASF policy violation and Scala version issues
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/k7gr65wt0fwtldc7hp7bd0vkg1k93rrb
> >
> > 2023-06-12 [VOTE] Release Plan for Apache Spark 4.0.0 (June 2024)
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/r0zn6rd8y25yn2dg59ktw3ttrwxzqrfb
> >
> > I'm looking forward to seeing the upcoming detailed discussions including
> > the following
> > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Preview (and Dates)
> > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Items
> > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Plan Adjustment
> >
> > Please initiate the discussion.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dongjoon.
> >
> >
> > On 2023/06/16 19:30:42 Dongjoon Hyun wrote:
> > > The vote passes with 6 +1s (4 binding +1s), one -0, and one -1.
> > > Thank you all for your participation and
> > > especially your additional comments during this voting,
> > > Mridul, Hyukjin, and Jungtaek.
> > >
> > > (* = binding)
> > > +1:
> > > - Dongjoon Hyun *
> > > - Huaxin Gao *
> > > - Liang-Chi Hsieh *
> > > - Kazuyuki Tanimura
> > > - Chao Sun *
> > > - Jia Fan
> > >
> > > -0: Holden Karau
> > >
> > > -1: Xiao Li *
> > >
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org
> >
> >
> 

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Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Plan for Apache Spark 4.0.0 (June 2024)

2023-06-18 Thread Hyukjin Kwon
The major concerns raised in the thread were that we should initiate the
discussion for the below first:
- Apache Spark 4.0.0 Preview (and Dates)
- Apache Spark 4.0.0 Items
- Apache Spark 4.0.0 Plan Adjustment

before setting the timeline for Spark 4.0.0 because we're unclear on the
picture of Spark 4.0.0. So discussing the timeline 4.0.0 first is the
opposite order procedurally.
The vote passed as a procedural issue, but I would prefer to consider this
as a tentative date, and should probably need another vote to adjust the
date considering the plans, preview dates, and items we aim for 4.0.0.


On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 at 04:33, Dongjoon Hyun  wrote:

> This was a part of the following on-going discussions.
>
> 2023-05-28  Apache Spark 3.5.0 Expectations (?)
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/3x6dh17bmy20n3frtt3crgxjydnxh2o0
>
> 2023-05-30 Apache Spark 4.0 Timeframe?
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/xhkgj60j361gdpywoxxz7qspp2w80ry6
>
> 2023-06-05 ASF policy violation and Scala version issues
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/k7gr65wt0fwtldc7hp7bd0vkg1k93rrb
>
> 2023-06-12 [VOTE] Release Plan for Apache Spark 4.0.0 (June 2024)
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/r0zn6rd8y25yn2dg59ktw3ttrwxzqrfb
>
> I'm looking forward to seeing the upcoming detailed discussions including
> the following
> - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Preview (and Dates)
> - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Items
> - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Plan Adjustment
>
> Please initiate the discussion.
>
> Thanks,
> Dongjoon.
>
>
> On 2023/06/16 19:30:42 Dongjoon Hyun wrote:
> > The vote passes with 6 +1s (4 binding +1s), one -0, and one -1.
> > Thank you all for your participation and
> > especially your additional comments during this voting,
> > Mridul, Hyukjin, and Jungtaek.
> >
> > (* = binding)
> > +1:
> > - Dongjoon Hyun *
> > - Huaxin Gao *
> > - Liang-Chi Hsieh *
> > - Kazuyuki Tanimura
> > - Chao Sun *
> > - Jia Fan
> >
> > -0: Holden Karau
> >
> > -1: Xiao Li *
> >
>
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> To unsubscribe e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org
>
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Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Plan for Apache Spark 4.0.0 (June 2024)

2023-06-16 Thread Dongjoon Hyun
This was a part of the following on-going discussions.

2023-05-28  Apache Spark 3.5.0 Expectations (?)
https://lists.apache.org/thread/3x6dh17bmy20n3frtt3crgxjydnxh2o0

2023-05-30 Apache Spark 4.0 Timeframe?
https://lists.apache.org/thread/xhkgj60j361gdpywoxxz7qspp2w80ry6

2023-06-05 ASF policy violation and Scala version issues
https://lists.apache.org/thread/k7gr65wt0fwtldc7hp7bd0vkg1k93rrb

2023-06-12 [VOTE] Release Plan for Apache Spark 4.0.0 (June 2024)
https://lists.apache.org/thread/r0zn6rd8y25yn2dg59ktw3ttrwxzqrfb

I'm looking forward to seeing the upcoming detailed discussions including the 
following
- Apache Spark 4.0.0 Preview (and Dates)
- Apache Spark 4.0.0 Items
- Apache Spark 4.0.0 Plan Adjustment

Please initiate the discussion.

Thanks,
Dongjoon.


On 2023/06/16 19:30:42 Dongjoon Hyun wrote:
> The vote passes with 6 +1s (4 binding +1s), one -0, and one -1.
> Thank you all for your participation and
> especially your additional comments during this voting,
> Mridul, Hyukjin, and Jungtaek.
> 
> (* = binding)
> +1:
> - Dongjoon Hyun *
> - Huaxin Gao *
> - Liang-Chi Hsieh *
> - Kazuyuki Tanimura
> - Chao Sun *
> - Jia Fan
> 
> -0: Holden Karau
> 
> -1: Xiao Li *
> 

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[VOTE][RESULT] Release Plan for Apache Spark 4.0.0 (June 2024)

2023-06-16 Thread Dongjoon Hyun
The vote passes with 6 +1s (4 binding +1s), one -0, and one -1.
Thank you all for your participation and
especially your additional comments during this voting,
Mridul, Hyukjin, and Jungtaek.

(* = binding)
+1:
- Dongjoon Hyun *
- Huaxin Gao *
- Liang-Chi Hsieh *
- Kazuyuki Tanimura
- Chao Sun *
- Jia Fan

-0: Holden Karau

-1: Xiao Li *