RE: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-03 Thread Martin Gainty
09 09:23:49 -0700 > Subject: Re: zip problems with 2.1.8 > From: musa...@gmail.com > To: dev@struts.apache.org > > If we can't get the help from people in the user list, then I would > say we do what you are suggesting, but we take it to the "extreme" a > bit, mean

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-02 Thread Musachy Barroso
If we can't get the help from people in the user list, then I would say we do what you are suggesting, but we take it to the "extreme" a bit, meaning, that when we think the code is ready to be frozen for a release, we cut a build(with tag, staging repo and all) and let people in dev@ know about it

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-02 Thread Martin Cooper
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Wes Wannemacher wrote: > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Martin Cooper wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Musachy Barroso wrote: >>> I still don't understand why we don't let users know that there is a >>> build that we are testing so we get more eyes on

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-02 Thread Musachy Barroso
I have always liked that option better, I don't see the point of calling GA something that has been tested for 3(+/-) days, instead of voting on something that has been in use for a couple of months and is known to be good for sure. When you say it is a "policy", do you mean an Apache policy? or a

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-02 Thread Nils-Helge Garli Hegvik
I'm on Windows, and I did test it after you reported the failure. I tested it on Win with 7-zip, and didn't notice any errors... Nils-H > Well, I did notice that the zips were malfunctioning (see my previous > email), but I assumed it was a local problem (bad harddrive with many > corrupted secto

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Philip Luppens
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 1:26 AM, Martin Cooper wrote: > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Musachy Barroso wrote: >> that sounds good to me. If we just overwrite 2.1.8 then the mirrors >> will also be updated right? This is technically speaking 2.1.8. > > The answer to that is "maybe". Some mirrors

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Wes Wannemacher
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Martin Cooper wrote: > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Musachy Barroso wrote: >> I still don't understand why we don't let users know that there is a >> build that we are testing so we get more eyes on it, before we call it >> a GA. Is there any practical reason?

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Martin Cooper
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Musachy Barroso wrote: > I still don't understand why we don't let users know that there is a > build that we are testing so we get more eyes on it, before we call it > a GA. Is there any practical reason? or is it just the way it has > always been done? It is sup

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Paul Benedict
Musachy, Policy is that the user list is only notified for releases. For a release to occur, it needs at least 3 +1 binding votes. Maybe one option is to introduce a graded release promotion. First, eliminate the possibility to vote GA in the first round; it becomes either Beta or the version is

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Musachy Barroso
I still don't understand why we don't let users know that there is a build that we are testing so we get more eyes on it, before we call it a GA. Is there any practical reason? or is it just the way it has always been done? musahcy On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Wes Wannemacher wrote: > I was s

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Wes Wannemacher
I was sort of thinking the same thing... I know I'll check the docs zip in the future, but I think it's a legitimate mistake that most of us aren't looking in the docs zip (since we've all already read them all, cover to cover, right?) :) -Wes On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Musachy Barroso wro

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Musachy Barroso
>. In fact, I > would ask those who voted on 2.1.8 to look at how they tested before > they voted, and perhaps think about ways in which they might change > their testing so that we can catch something like this before it goes > out in a release again. Hey my windows partition is just for playing

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Martin Cooper
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Musachy Barroso wrote: > that sounds good to me. If we just overwrite 2.1.8 then the mirrors > will also be updated right? This is technically speaking 2.1.8. The answer to that is "maybe". Some mirrors will update, others will not. This is one of the main reasons

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Paul Benedict
Wendy, Your logic about repacking everything or nothing makes sense. Agreed. Lastly, unless there needs to be changes within SVN (like correcting Maven configuration to fix the build), I see no reason for a new release. Were there commits to fix something? If so, that satisfies me. Otherwise, it'

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Wendy Smoak
"The whole release" would be both the distribution zips and the Maven artifacts. If we're going to retract the release, we should retract *all* of it. I'm not in favor of that since the code is fine, we just have a packaging problem with the documentation. As I understand the proposed solution,

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Paul Benedict
Wendy, I did say in a later email I wrongly believed we were talking about Maven repos. If it is just the Apache distributions, and those have bogus files, those should be deleted. Just can the whole release. I think that's sensible. Paul On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Wes Wannemacher wrote: >

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Wes Wannemacher
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote: > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Paul Benedict wrote: >> I still advocate deleting the 2.1.8 binaries. Will that be done? Any >> bad distribution should get the shovel. > > As I understand it, there's nothing wrong with the artifacts in the > M

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Wendy Smoak
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Paul Benedict wrote: > I still advocate deleting the 2.1.8 binaries. Will that be done? Any > bad distribution should get the shovel. As I understand it, there's nothing wrong with the artifacts in the Maven repo, and no reason to delete them. This is a problem w

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Paul Benedict
I still advocate deleting the 2.1.8 binaries. Will that be done? Any bad distribution should get the shovel. Paul On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Wes Wannemacher wrote: > I've already branched and made the changes to the poms (to make the > whole thing build correctly). To me, I'd rather get it

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Wes Wannemacher
I've already branched and made the changes to the poms (to make the whole thing build correctly). To me, I'd rather get it done right than to just push out a few updated zips, especially since this includes the struts-2.1.8-all.zip. I'll have the build pushed out to the staging repo in a bit and I

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Paul Benedict
Oh, okay. I misunderstood. If only the Apache distribution packages are messed up, go ahead and replace those. I don't think that calls for a new build. I had bad MD5 files before. I was asked to fix those on a release (after the mirrors received them), and I did. Paul On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Musachy Barroso
that sounds good to me. If we just overwrite 2.1.8 then the mirrors will also be updated right? This is technically speaking 2.1.8. musachy On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Wes Wannemacher wrote: > So, I was trying to figure out what is going on here because there are > more problems with the zi

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Wes Wannemacher
Really, this doesn't affect maven, it is the zips (which I don't think are usable as maven dependencies). All of the jars are fine. I would suggest signing a new copy of the struts-2.1.8-docs.zip file, but since -all.zip also includes the contents, I figured that it's probably best to just start ov

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Paul Benedict
If the artifacts are bad, version 1.2.8.1 should be deleted from the repository. What I've been reading on the Maven Developer's List, this kind of issue is probably the one acceptable time to remove a version. Paul On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Wes Wannemacher wrote: > So, I was trying to fi

Re: zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Paul Benedict
Sorry, I meant 1.2.8 should be removed. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Paul Benedict wrote: > If the artifacts are bad, version 1.2.8.1 should be deleted from the > repository. What I've been reading on the Maven Developer's List, this > kind of issue is probably the one acceptable time to remo

zip problems with 2.1.8

2009-10-01 Thread Wes Wannemacher
So, I was trying to figure out what is going on here because there are more problems with the zip than mentioned on the user@ list. Since I took site-deploy out of the release plugins default goals (to keep other artifacts from stomping the main struts.apache.org site), it had the unintended side e