[S2] Signing and digesting artifacts (WAS: Re: 2.1 build)

2008-04-08 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2008/4/8, Jeromy Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I've signed struts-annotations-1.0.3 using [EMAIL PROTECTED] and copied to > [1]. > > Can some please take a moment to check these? If they're okay I presume > the artefacts then just need to be copied to the right location for rsync to > ibiblio. A

Re: 2.1 build

2008-04-08 Thread Jeromy Evans
Jeromy Evans wrote: I've signed struts-annotations-1.0.3 using [EMAIL PROTECTED] and copied to [1]. Can some please take a moment to check these? If they're okay I presume the artefacts then just need to be copied to the right location for rsync to ibiblio. Any other formalities for struts

Re: Feature sponsorship proposal

2008-04-08 Thread James Mitchell
Ok, a couple of things here. First, that's not exactly what I said. I wasn't talking about recognition. I was talking about the use of financial incentives as motivation. I'm all for recognition. If you remember a few years back ([0] and [1]), the ASF decided we needed to strip the @author tags

Re: Feature sponsorship proposal

2008-04-08 Thread Ted Husted
> Apache just plain wouldn't exist without corporate support. And a lot of corporations wouldn't exist without our software to run their business :) -T. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mai

Re: Feature sponsorship proposal

2008-04-08 Thread Ted Husted
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But, saying thanks to Wendy's employer might cross the line. One of > our precepts is that ASF projects are "composed of individuals, and so > we give the credit to individuals. The farthest we might be able to go > is to s

Re: Feature sponsorship proposal

2008-04-08 Thread Ted Husted
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The core issue in this proposal is something that has bothered me > about Struts for years - we do a poor job giving credit to > contributors. I remember this one Open Source project I started > playing with that would inc

Re: Feature sponsorship proposal

2008-04-08 Thread Don Brown
Exactly - I'm not suggesting we change how we accept contributions at all and of course, we would try to give credit to individuals where desired, but look at it this way: if IBM donated a server to us, would we credit the person who processed the order or the company that purchased the computer?

Re: Feature sponsorship proposal

2008-04-08 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Exactly - I'm not suggesting we change how we accept contributions at > all and of course, we would try to give credit to individuals where > desired, but look at it this way: if IBM donated a server to us, would > we credit

Re: Feature sponsorship proposal

2008-04-08 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2008/4/8, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Would be good to clear this with the PRC - I seem to recall a similar > discussion where a project was crediting a company for a couple of > free licenses and someone from the PRC pointed out that it might upset > the official ASF sponsors[1] if th

Re: Feature sponsorship proposal

2008-04-08 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Antonio Petrelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/4/8, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Would be good to clear this with the PRC - I seem to recall a similar > > discussion where a project was crediting a company for a couple of > > free licenses a

Re: Feature sponsorship proposal

2008-04-08 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2008/4/8, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Right, but in this case were talking about the corporations that > contributors work for. Sorry, I forgot an entire sentence :-O I meant, if a contributor helped with the help of a company, then we should write: Wendy Windham (FooBar Co.) with n

Re: Feature sponsorship proposal

2008-04-08 Thread Martin Gilday
I have to say I'm not really convinced this would be a benefit to the project. I'm sure there are rules in the ASF and licenses that prevent it, but I can ony see an increase in conflicts of interest. How do you decide if the dontated feature is large enough to warrant creditation? Do you take it

Re: 2.1 build

2008-04-08 Thread Martin Cooper
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Jeromy Evans < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeromy Evans wrote: > > > I've signed struts-annotations-1.0.3 using [EMAIL PROTECTED] and copied > > to [1]. > > > > Can some please take a moment to check these? If they're okay I presume > > the artefacts then just nee

Re: Feature sponsorship proposal

2008-04-08 Thread Musachy Barroso
Ted said all I had in mind about this, now, none of it goes against Don's proposal, except maybe point #4 right? If we recognize the individual as "Wendy from BigCo" it will be on the release notes, so it will be on the website somewhere. Would that fulfill point #4, or you meant "somewhere on the

Are Struts JARs OSGi Aware?

2008-04-08 Thread Matt Raible
Are Struts JARs OSGi-aware? Spring MVC's are as of 2.5.3. I think it'd be good to do the same for Struts JARs. Thanks, Matt -- http://raibledesigns.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mai

Re: Feature sponsorship proposal

2008-04-08 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Tue, April 8, 2008 9:30 am, Martin Gilday wrote: > How do you decide if the dontated feature is large enough to warrant > creditation? All of my open-source projects run under the idea that *every* contribution of *any* size should be acknowledged. Each of them (JWP and DataVision for example)

Re: 2.1 build

2008-04-08 Thread Wendy Smoak
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Jeromy Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've signed struts-annotations-1.0.3 using [EMAIL PROTECTED] and copied to > [1]. Where/how did you sign them? Were the files re-built? Generally you only sign what you build yourself, while it's under your control on a m

Re: Are Struts JARs OSGi Aware?

2008-04-08 Thread Paul Benedict
What purpose is making OSGi jars for Struts? I am familiar with the technology, but don't see what purpose bundling Struts as such. I hope to learn something. Paul On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Matt Raible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are Struts JARs OSGi-aware? Spring MVC's are as of 2.5.3.

Does Struts 2 support loading FreeMarker templates from a remote server?

2008-04-08 Thread Matt Raible
According to the following page, Struts 2 supports loading FreeMarker templates from the webapp or classpath: http://struts.apache.org/2.x/docs/freemarker.html However, it doesn't appear to support loading them from a remote server (i.e. http://localhost/freemarker). Is this a limitation of Strut

Re: Are Struts JARs OSGi Aware?

2008-04-08 Thread Don Brown
All it means is we'd ensure certain values are in our MANIFEST.MF file. There is this nice m2 plugin that does all the work for you. This is something I'm working on for Struts 2 (hence trying to remove optional dependencies). Don On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 6:12 AM, Paul Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Does Struts 2 support loading FreeMarker templates from a remote server?

2008-04-08 Thread mraible
I'll take that as a "no". FWIW, Spring MVC supports this - allowing you to use its underlying Resources API to load from a remote server via http, ftp, etc. It also supports loading from a remote JAR, which is pretty cool IMO. How hard would it be to add this functionality to Struts 2? Matt m

Re: Does Struts 2 support loading FreeMarker templates from a remote server?

2008-04-08 Thread Musachy Barroso
I think you would have to add a template loader FreemarkerManager:getTemplateLoader musachy On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:14 PM, mraible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'll take that as a "no". FWIW, Spring MVC supports this - allowing you to > use its underlying Resources API to load from a remote

Re: 2.1 build

2008-04-08 Thread Jeromy Evans
Martin Cooper wrote: Please do *not* edit that file directly. The KEYS file is maintained in SVN, so you need to update that and then refresh the file on the site from that. https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/maven/trunk/build/KEYS Fixed. I've updated the instructions: http://cwiki.ap

Re: 2.1 build

2008-04-08 Thread Jeromy Evans
Wendy Smoak wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Jeromy Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've signed struts-annotations-1.0.3 using [EMAIL PROTECTED] and copied to [1]. Where/how did you sign them? Were the files re-built? Generally you only sign what you build yourself, while it'

Re: 2.1 build

2008-04-08 Thread Martin Cooper
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Jeromy Evans < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Cooper wrote: > > > > > Please do *not* edit that file directly. The KEYS file is maintained in > > SVN, > > so you need to update that and then refresh the file on the site from > > that. > > > > https://svn.apache.

Re: 2.1 build

2008-04-08 Thread Don Brown
*sigh* is this all necessary? I mean, by using the Maven release plugin, the binaries are created off the tag. A quick SVN command can confirm the tag hasn't been modified, so I don't see any problem with Jeromy building new binaries and finishing the release. The vote had passed with the caveat

Re: 2.1 build

2008-04-08 Thread Martin Cooper
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *sigh* is this all necessary? I mean, by using the Maven release > plugin, the binaries are created off the tag. A quick SVN command can > confirm the tag hasn't been modified, so I don't see any problem with > Jeromy buildin

Re: 2.1 build

2008-04-08 Thread Martin Cooper
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > *sigh* is this all necessary? I mean, by using the Maven release > > plugin, the binaries are created off the tag. A quick SVN command can > >

Re: 2.1 build

2008-04-08 Thread Jeromy Evans
Martin Cooper wrote: If the binaries Jeromy created are bit-for-bit identical to the ones you built, then I don't have a problem. If they're not, then what he has built is not the same as what was voted on. And more to the point, actually, it's not what people tested before they voted.

Re: 2.1 build

2008-04-08 Thread Martin Cooper
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Jeromy Evans < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Cooper wrote: > > > > > > If the binaries Jeromy created are bit-for-bit identical to the ones > > > you > > > built, then I don't have a problem. If they're not, then what he has > > > built > > > is not the same as

Re: 2.1 build

2008-04-08 Thread Jeromy Evans
Martin Cooper wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Jeromy Evans < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Understood. Can I sign and distribute Don's binaries[1] or *must* they be signed by the person that built them? I've lost track of why Don can't sign them himself, but I would consider it